DnD Game 2 - Elven/Orcish Wars
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- Chaosraven
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CSL is up: engaged with 4
Roll(1d20)+4:
16,+4
Total:20
Roll(1d20)+4:
20,+4
Total:24
(I think I'll skip rolling the criticals on the Kobolds...)
Roll(1d8)+2:
3,+2
Total:5
Roll(1d8)+2:
4,+2
Total:6
Belisarius dispatches half his foes in a barrage of blows
Kobolds versus Belisarius:
Roll(1d20)+3:
7,+3
Total:10
Roll(1d20)+3:
5,+3
Total:8
Arnir engaged with 1
The tide has turned against the Kobolds
Ralph at range - action pending
Arnir engaged with 1 - action pending
IceBear at Range - action pending
3 Kobolds remain (2 vs Belisarius, 1 vs Arthur)
Ralph and Icebear at Range
Roll(1d20)+4:
16,+4
Total:20
Roll(1d20)+4:
20,+4
Total:24
(I think I'll skip rolling the criticals on the Kobolds...)
Roll(1d8)+2:
3,+2
Total:5
Roll(1d8)+2:
4,+2
Total:6
Belisarius dispatches half his foes in a barrage of blows
Kobolds versus Belisarius:
Roll(1d20)+3:
7,+3
Total:10
Roll(1d20)+3:
5,+3
Total:8
Arnir engaged with 1
The tide has turned against the Kobolds
Ralph at range - action pending
Arnir engaged with 1 - action pending
IceBear at Range - action pending
3 Kobolds remain (2 vs Belisarius, 1 vs Arthur)
Ralph and Icebear at Range
"Where are you off to?"
"I don't know," Snufkin replied.
The door shut again and Snufkin entered his forest, with a hundred miles of silence ahead of him.
Sweet sweet meat come. -LordMortis
"I don't know," Snufkin replied.
The door shut again and Snufkin entered his forest, with a hundred miles of silence ahead of him.
Sweet sweet meat come. -LordMortis
- Arnir
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I go after my kobold.
1d8+2
4+2 = 6
1d20+3
18+3 = 21
(the above rolls are out of order due to how the d20 dice bag presents the list.)
CR: I'm a bit confused. How many hitpoints have I lost?
1d8+2
4+2 = 6
1d20+3
18+3 = 21
(the above rolls are out of order due to how the d20 dice bag presents the list.)
CR: I'm a bit confused. How many hitpoints have I lost?
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A missile of magical energy darts forth from your fingertip and strikes its target, dealing 1d4+1 points of force damage.
The missile strikes unerringly, even if the target is in melee combat or has less than total cover or total concealment. Specific parts of a creature can’t be singled out. Inanimate objects are not damaged by the spell.
For every two caster levels beyond 1st, you gain an additional missile—two at 3rd level, three at 5th, four at 7th, and the maximum of five missiles at 9th level or higher. If you shoot multiple missiles, you can have them strike a single creature or several creatures. A single missile can strike only one creature. You must designate targets before you check for spell resistance or roll damage.
The missile strikes unerringly, even if the target is in melee combat or has less than total cover or total concealment. Specific parts of a creature can’t be singled out. Inanimate objects are not damaged by the spell.
For every two caster levels beyond 1st, you gain an additional missile—two at 3rd level, three at 5th, four at 7th, and the maximum of five missiles at 9th level or higher. If you shoot multiple missiles, you can have them strike a single creature or several creatures. A single missile can strike only one creature. You must designate targets before you check for spell resistance or roll damage.
- Remus West
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Here I am
Searin
I need to go back and fill in feats and skills but will do that soon. I think I already sent CR a list of everything.
Searin
I need to go back and fill in feats and skills but will do that soon. I think I already sent CR a list of everything.
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- Chaosraven
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5, by my count. Oh, the Kobold missed in my latest post.Arnir wrote:I go after my kobold.
1d8+2
4+2 = 6
1d20+3
18+3 = 21
(the above rolls are out of order due to how the d20 dice bag presents the list.)
CR: I'm a bit confused. How many hitpoints have I lost?
Arthur swiftly dispatched his last opponentArnir engaged with 1
Roll(1d20)+1:
9,+1
Total:10
"Where are you off to?"
"I don't know," Snufkin replied.
The door shut again and Snufkin entered his forest, with a hundred miles of silence ahead of him.
Sweet sweet meat come. -LordMortis
"I don't know," Snufkin replied.
The door shut again and Snufkin entered his forest, with a hundred miles of silence ahead of him.
Sweet sweet meat come. -LordMortis
- Arnir
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I'm going to use my spontaneous casting to convert magic weapon to cure light wounds, which I will cast on Arthur (myself.) A dead cleric can't heal anyone else. Then I will go back to hacking bad guys or kolbolds.
If I understand the system properly since one of my domains is healing, my casting of cure light wounds should be at level 3.
If I understand the system properly since one of my domains is healing, my casting of cure light wounds should be at level 3.
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If I'm not mistaken, that is correct. As long as you don't have to pass a concentration check, it should be automatic.Ralph-Wiggum wrote:So if I cast magic missile, do I not need to make a "to hit" roll?
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Magic Missile will not miss a Target within Range that you can See.
Concentration checks are required to avoid provoking an Attack of Opportunity if within a Threatened area or when attempting other Odd Stuff at the same time.
Arnir - your Cure Light should heal 1d8 + 3 pt
"Where are you off to?"
"I don't know," Snufkin replied.
The door shut again and Snufkin entered his forest, with a hundred miles of silence ahead of him.
Sweet sweet meat come. -LordMortis
"I don't know," Snufkin replied.
The door shut again and Snufkin entered his forest, with a hundred miles of silence ahead of him.
Sweet sweet meat come. -LordMortis
- Arnir
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Will I need to roll a concentration check?
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- Chaosraven
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No, as the two remaining Kobolds are in combat with BelisariusArnir wrote:Will I need to roll a concentration check?
Correction, one last remaining Kobold...IceBear wrote:I'll shoot again.
Hit: 12+3 = 15
Damage: 4
And yes RW, 1d4+1.
"Where are you off to?"
"I don't know," Snufkin replied.
The door shut again and Snufkin entered his forest, with a hundred miles of silence ahead of him.
Sweet sweet meat come. -LordMortis
"I don't know," Snufkin replied.
The door shut again and Snufkin entered his forest, with a hundred miles of silence ahead of him.
Sweet sweet meat come. -LordMortis
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- Arnir
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I'll still convert my magic weapon to cure light wounds on Arthur just in case this is UberKobold in disguise. If we are still fighting, I'll attack again.
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- Arnir
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Okay, combat is over, it appears. I'll still cast my spell on Arthur to heal him up. Then I will check on the wounds of the others.
I recommend that we search the kobolds and see what we can find and also check on the halflings.
I recommend that we search the kobolds and see what we can find and also check on the halflings.
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- Arnir
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I felt a sudden, blurring, like our world has moved....
Welcome to the new forum.
Welcome to the new forum.
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- Arnir
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It's okay, the monsters are gone. Everyone can come back now!
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Arnir, the lone survivor of the Planar Shift, finds himself surrounded by Werewolves, Vampires, Aliens, and Monty Python Knights... 

"Where are you off to?"
"I don't know," Snufkin replied.
The door shut again and Snufkin entered his forest, with a hundred miles of silence ahead of him.
Sweet sweet meat come. -LordMortis
"I don't know," Snufkin replied.
The door shut again and Snufkin entered his forest, with a hundred miles of silence ahead of him.
Sweet sweet meat come. -LordMortis
- Remus West
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Searin rides calmly through the new forum wondering where all those people making noise went to.
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I wonder if it might not be safer with the kobolds.Chaosraven wrote:Arnir, the lone survivor of the Planar Shift, finds himself surrounded by Werewolves, Vampires, Aliens, and Monty Python Knights...
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Searin scratches lightly at his scarred face.
I could have sworn I heard shouting and what sounded like fighting around here somewhere.
Proceeds to ride slowing along alert to any signs of trouble ahead or possible places of ambush, lone traveler can never be to careful.
I could have sworn I heard shouting and what sounded like fighting around here somewhere.
Proceeds to ride slowing along alert to any signs of trouble ahead or possible places of ambush, lone traveler can never be to careful.
“As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.” - H.L. Mencken
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OH yeah, baby. I'm here. Sorry, long day at work.Chaosraven wrote:Players still active in this game please check in
Arnir
Remus West
Ralph-Wiggum?
IceBear?
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- Remus West
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Ralph is gone until Saturday so he wont be checking in until at least then. You might try PMing them.
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Searin knocks down a tree to see if anyone can hear it.
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Huh, what was that? Sounded like one hand clapping.
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You see a Pair of Doors...
Standing with no walls.
On one is painted a Shield, split in half right down the center, one side Black, the other White.
The other door bears the image of a Bloody Handprint.
"Where are you off to?"
"I don't know," Snufkin replied.
The door shut again and Snufkin entered his forest, with a hundred miles of silence ahead of him.
Sweet sweet meat come. -LordMortis
"I don't know," Snufkin replied.
The door shut again and Snufkin entered his forest, with a hundred miles of silence ahead of him.
Sweet sweet meat come. -LordMortis
- Remus West
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Is that actual game or are you just posting to bump?Chaosraven wrote:
You see a Pair of Doors...
Standing with no walls.
On one is painted a Shield, split in half right down the center, one side Black, the other White.
The other door bears the image of a Bloody Handprint.
“As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.” - H.L. Mencken
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Really? What did we find on the bodies? Are the halflings okay? Did I find my mule? etc?Chaosraven wrote:Actual Game.
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In that case I start taking very close notice of everything around the doors and myself. Can I see around the doors? Are there any scuff marks on the ground leading up to the doors? (either side if I can see the back of them ) Is the image actual blood?(I know you, you bastage) Any marks that might indicate either door had been opened?Chaosraven wrote:Actual Game.
“As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.” - H.L. Mencken
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The world around you has faded from your perception, but each time you get concerned about it, the doors draw your attention back to them.Arnir wrote:Really? What did we find on the bodies? Are the halflings okay? Did I find my mule? etc?Chaosraven wrote:Actual Game.
The doors are visible from all angles, and have the same insignia on the reverse side... an Arrow and an Ax crossed. There are no scuff marks leading up to either side of either door. The imagery is painted. Neither door seems to have been opened.Remus West wrote:In that case I start taking very close notice of everything around the doors and myself. Can I see around the doors? Are there any scuff marks on the ground leading up to the doors? (either side if I can see the back of them ) Is the image actual blood?(I know you, you bastage) Any marks that might indicate either door had been opened?Chaosraven wrote:Actual Game.
"Where are you off to?"
"I don't know," Snufkin replied.
The door shut again and Snufkin entered his forest, with a hundred miles of silence ahead of him.
Sweet sweet meat come. -LordMortis
"I don't know," Snufkin replied.
The door shut again and Snufkin entered his forest, with a hundred miles of silence ahead of him.
Sweet sweet meat come. -LordMortis
- Remus West
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Assuming that the doorway is large enough for my horse to be led through, I open the door with the shield on it and prepare to lead my horse through to the other thread er.....side.
“As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.” - H.L. Mencken
- Arnir
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What the hell, I'll follow Remus' character.
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"She needed a green card; I wanted a man card."
- Remus West
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Whoa, didn't see you there. I'm Searin. Sometime blacksmith, currently just a traveler looking for work. You are?Arnir wrote:What the hell, I'll follow Remus' character.
“As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.” - H.L. Mencken
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Remus West:
You pass through the doorway easily, and yes, you (player-wise) are correct.
Arnir:
The doorway seems solid as rock, though you are able to see and converse through it.
You pass through the doorway easily, and yes, you (player-wise) are correct.
Arnir:
The doorway seems solid as rock, though you are able to see and converse through it.
"Where are you off to?"
"I don't know," Snufkin replied.
The door shut again and Snufkin entered his forest, with a hundred miles of silence ahead of him.
Sweet sweet meat come. -LordMortis
"I don't know," Snufkin replied.
The door shut again and Snufkin entered his forest, with a hundred miles of silence ahead of him.
Sweet sweet meat come. -LordMortis