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HORSE single table interest thread.

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I'd happily run an 8 player table of HORSE if there is an interest. Basically, a copy of Neal's game and ruleset for his single.

If I get 8 "In"s I'll hash it out by the end of tonight.

For those not familiar with HORSE, it's poker done in rounds with increasing antes/blinds.

Limit Hold 'em
Limit Omaha Hi/Lo
Limit Razz
Limit 7 Card Stud
Limit 7 Card Hi/Lo

(I'll also have to be 100% clear on lo hands and more specifically razz, as sometimes I have to a low hand on my fingers and I still get confused. :oops: )

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I'm not so good at explaining games but I'll try and find a good website that doesn't spam you with pop ups to eplain the game when I get home, for those not familiar with the games.

We know what hold'em is
Omaha is like hold'em except you get four cards down instead of two. You must use exactly two of your cards with three of the five cards in the middle to make you hand.
We know what Stud means
Razz is stud but you are trying to make the worst five cards of seven. Straights and Flushes don't count against a bad hand. A wheel is the best hand you can have. Four of a kind or a full house are as bad of news as it gets.

Hi-Lo means the pot has the capacity to split the best hand with the worst hand. The worst hand must be five cards between A-8. Straights and flushes don't count. You can use a different (of the same in case of flush or stright) 5 cards to make a high and low hand.

I'll have to find the rules for what constitutes low in hi-lo and razz games because worst hand isn't always lowest kicker(s).
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I've never played H.O.R.S.E. and while I don't usually care as much for limit poker, I'd be willing to give it a whirl.

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I'll play even just to learn some of those games.
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Re: HORSE single table interest thread.

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LordMortis wrote:I'll have to find the rules for what constitutes low in hi-lo and razz games because worst hand isn't always lowest kicker(s).
The Hi/Low games are both eight-or-better, so for a hand to qualify for the low, it can't be any better (worse) than 8-7-6-5-4. If you held Ad-2d-3d-4d-5d, then you'd be feeling great in the Stud Hi/Low game, as you'd have the nuts for a low, and a straight flush for the high.

Razz is worst hand wins without a qualifier. Aces are *always* ranked below a 2, so a pair of aces would win a Razz hand over a pair of deuces (as it ranks lower).

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Re: HORSE single table interest thread.

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The Meal wrote:
LordMortis wrote:I'll have to find the rules for what constitutes low in hi-lo and razz games because worst hand isn't always lowest kicker(s).
The Hi/Low games are both eight-or-better, so for a hand to qualify for the low, it can't be any better (worse) than 8-7-6-5-4.

Razz is worst hand wins without a qualifier.

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But the worst hand isn't always kicker oriented is it? Sadly I've always played "the card speak for themselves" so I haven't learned the real dynamics yet.

It would seem to me that I've played Razz games on the PC where high card (in a non paired grouping of 5) wasn't always the high with kickers then following... but then the cards get tossed so quickly I could be wrong.
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When the current tourney is done...

in 2010

...I'm in.
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The winning low hands always use the five cards most advantageous to the player (and in the high/low games, you use a different set of five cards for high and low, if necessary). So holding 8886542 would give you an "8-6" low, and trip 8's for the high.

It may be that in the speed of the online game, it's hard to see the best lows.

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When the current tourney is done...

in 2010

...I'm in.
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Post by Baroquen »

If this comes together, I'd play. I've played a couple low stake HORSE tourneys. They're fun especially as a change of pace to just plain old NLHE. I enjoy the razz and the other low hands for some strange reason.
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I'm in, but bear in mind the stud games (of which there are 3 variants in Horse) take a long time to deal. I'm just sayin.

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I was out of town or I would have responded sooner. I'm in, even though I'm pretty rusty with the hi/lo and razz games (as most people are, I'm guessing).
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Post by Baroquen »

So is that 5 potential players? (6 if we were to start in 2010? :) )
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