Grundbegriff's Gallows: Stormbringer 2

Kraegor · Post by **Kraegor** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 10:32 am

Against pr0ner(7): Kelric, Chaosraven, Nade, Mr Bubbles, gbasden, st_dysan, Bakhtosh
Against Austin(8): Remus West, Bakhtosh, Mr Bubbles, Newcastle, Chaosraven, Nade, Kelric, pr0ner

ChaosRaven, Bubbles, and Kelric can be relied upon to lynch an innocent.

So yeah...let's follow their lead........

Against Chaosraven(2): PR_GMR, Kelric
Against Mr Bubbles(2): Nade, Chaosraven
Against Remus West(2): gbasden, Mr Bubbles
Against st_dysan(1): Remus West

All of a sudden they can't agree. But of course, there is no obvious wagon, yes?

I'd say lynch ChaosRaven he's been spreading the most intentional confusion.

Mr Bubbles · Post by **Mr Bubbles** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 10:46 am

I actually think my pick is not a bad one. I can't say for sure, but then again can anyone. Remus was so dead set on picking me. I vote for him and then all of a sudden he believes Im an innocent. I can't help but believe that he's trying to stay under the radar.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 11:29 am

the tally

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 3:06 pm

Mr Bubbles wrote:I actually think my pick is not a bad one. I can't say for sure, but then again can anyone. Remus was so dead set on picking me. I vote for him and then all of a sudden he believes Im an innocent. I can't help but believe that he's trying to stay under the radar.

I'm under the radar? Weird. Voting st_dysan has nothing to do with your voting me, I just felt like I was running around crazy in this game and getting no where so I sat and thought about past games and who was the sneakiest. st_dysan has managed to be completely under the radar in all of the games I have seen him play. He has also been extremely effective in all of those games. I think the bad guys have been playing a very sneaky game, that means look for sneaky players. st_dysan is sneaky.

gbasden · Post by **gbasden** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 7:00 pm

I'm leaving for a week in the wilderness, so I may be pretty quiet until I return. I might have sporadic internet access, so if I do, I'll check in. Lynch a slayer for me while I'm gone!

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 9:47 pm

In space, no one can hear you....

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 12:41 am

Kraegor wrote:ChaosRaven, Bubbles, and Kelric can be relied upon to lynch an innocent.

So yeah...let's follow their lead........

I'd say lynch ChaosRaven he's been spreading the most intentional confusion.

Hmmm... I believe *I* was the one who pointed this out. You left out Remus as well.

So, you wish to reiterate exactly what *I* have said and then accuse me of "intentional confusion"?

Day One:
Remus West - st_dysan, Kelric, Austin, tru1cy, Chaosraven, tru1cy
Mr Bubbles - tru1cy
Chaosraven - tru1cy, Austin, gbasden
Kelric - tru1cy
Kraegor - tru1cy

No final vote: Newcastle, Chaosraven

Day Two:
Remus West - Austin
Mr Bubbles - Mr Bubbles, Austin
Chaosraven - Newcastle, Austin
Kelric - Mr Bubbles, Austin

No vote on Day Two: Kraegor, PR_GMR, st_dysan

Day Three:
Remus West: Kelric, Kraegor, gbasden, Silky, gbasden, Silky, pr0ner
Mr Bubbles - pr0ner
Chaosraven - st_dysan, pr0ner
Kelric - Chaosraven, Remus, pr0ner
Kraegor - Remus

No final vote: Remus West

So let's see... you are playing a low-attention game, only having garnered 3 votes against. Voting a single time on Day One and Three, not at all on Day Two and of the Four I mentioned (including myself and Remus as we had both voted for and withdrawn votes against the lynched individual) you choose me. I doubt both of your partners are among those three...

I'm not sure if it's Bubbles or Kelric or Remus (the latter now most likely in my eyes as you left him out) playing the Front Man for your little Gang, but I name you Midrange Bad Guy...

KRAEGOR

st_dysan · Post by **st_dysan** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 8:08 am

Remus West wrote:
Mr Bubbles wrote:I actually think my pick is not a bad one. I can't say for sure, but then again can anyone. Remus was so dead set on picking me. I vote for him and then all of a sudden he believes Im an innocent. I can't help but believe that he's trying to stay under the radar.
I'm under the radar? Weird. Voting st_dysan has nothing to do with your voting me, I just felt like I was running around crazy in this game and getting no where so I sat and thought about past games and who was the sneakiest. st_dysan has managed to be completely under the radar in all of the games I have seen him play. He has also been extremely effective in all of those games. I think the bad guys have been playing a very sneaky game, that means look for sneaky players. st_dysan is sneaky.

Well, in moist of the other games, like this one, I was an innocent and likewise, in contact with no one else, its hard to make any meaningful input, just hunches. I don't like throwing out names, but I have jumped on a bandwagon or two just to keep the game moving.

That being said, I've tried to keep out of your focus this entire game. You seem to be the most vocal and all over the board. You've had my suspicion the entire game and while I have suspected you, I've not wanted to vote for you lest you start dragging me through the mud, well now that that has occured I'll guess I'll step up and throw my vote out for you.

You've tried each day to get someone's name out there and managed to kill innocents, like me.

So there you have it, Remus West before he can claim another victim.

Silky · Post by **Silky** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 10:11 am

I will vote for Remus West as well. The reason for this is pretty simple. He is a regular and he is still alive. That is not so different from ChaosRaven and to a lesser degree Kelric. However lynching Remus tells me something if he is a slayer. Those other two not so much.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 10:46 am

the tally

PR_GMR · Post by **PR_GMR** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 11:51 am

(Detective Lieutenant PR GMR walks around the space station with a large 'Air Refreshener Gun'. He starts to vent fresh air into the space station)

This station has gotten a bit stale. It's all these murders. For whatever reason, the bodies haven't been jettisoned into space, or just vaporized, yet. We need some movement here.

Perhaps Remus West did it after all. Most seem to be angling his way on this matter.

Kraegor · Post by **Kraegor** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 11:56 am

Hmmm... I believe *I* was the one who pointed this out. You left out Remus as well.

So, you wish to reiterate exactly what *I* have said and then accuse me of "intentional confusion"?

which proves my point. yer "analysis" was friggin confusing. I don't organize things in the manner you do and your lists generally come across as meaningless gibberish....I suppose if I hadn't lost my decoder ring....

I didnt leave out Remus, he was not in one of those votes according to the count. Who I left out was "Nade", but nice of you to miss that...

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 12:18 pm

st_dysan wrote:
Remus West wrote:
Mr Bubbles wrote:I actually think my pick is not a bad one. I can't say for sure, but then again can anyone. Remus was so dead set on picking me. I vote for him and then all of a sudden he believes Im an innocent. I can't help but believe that he's trying to stay under the radar.
I'm under the radar? Weird. Voting st_dysan has nothing to do with your voting me, I just felt like I was running around crazy in this game and getting no where so I sat and thought about past games and who was the sneakiest. st_dysan has managed to be completely under the radar in all of the games I have seen him play. He has also been extremely effective in all of those games. I think the bad guys have been playing a very sneaky game, that means look for sneaky players. st_dysan is sneaky.
Well, in moist of the other games, like this one, I was an innocent and likewise, in contact with no one else, its hard to make any meaningful input, just hunches. I don't like throwing out names, but I have jumped on a bandwagon or two just to keep the game moving.

That being said, I've tried to keep out of your focus this entire game. You seem to be the most vocal and all over the board. You've had my suspicion the entire game and while I have suspected you, I've not wanted to vote for you lest you start dragging me through the mud, well now that that has occured I'll guess I'll step up and throw my vote out for you.

You've tried each day to get someone's name out there and managed to kill innocents, like me.

So there you have it, Remus West before he can claim another victim.

Well done, sir. Well done indeed. Not only do you cast a complete retribution vote but you manage to diguise it by piling a bunch of bull around it. A poorly placed vote it is though since you know I am not a slayer.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 12:22 pm

Silky wrote:I will vote for Remus West as well. The reason for this is pretty simple. He is a regular and he is still alive. That is not so different from ChaosRaven and to a lesser degree Kelric. However lynching Remus tells me something if he is a slayer. Those other two not so much.

What does killing me tell you when I turn up innocent? And how would it tell you more if I came up guilty than if CR or Kelric did?

Silky · Post by **Silky** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 1:46 pm

Remus West wrote:
Silky wrote:I will vote for Remus West as well. The reason for this is pretty simple. He is a regular and he is still alive. That is not so different from ChaosRaven and to a lesser degree Kelric. However lynching Remus tells me something if he is a slayer. Those other two not so much.
What does killing me tell you when I turn up innocent? And how would it tell you more if I came up guilty than if CR or Kelric did?

If you were lynched and come out innocent you are correct... it wouldn't tell me much. If you are guilty then I have a good idea who a second slayer is. If CR or Kelric gets lynched and turns out to be a slayer that would of course be fantastic. What it doesn't do at least for me is point me in the direction of another.

I will not point out my reasonings on this matter at the moment because I don't want to tip my hand. If you are slayer I will reveal my tell before the next round of slayings. If you are not then its a tragically moot point.

Kelric · Post by **Kelric** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 3:04 pm

Just to get things moving and to make another potentially bad decision....

withdraw Chaos

lynch Remus

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 3:09 pm

the tally

PR_GMR · Post by **PR_GMR** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 3:29 pm

withdraw Chaosraven

lynch Remus West

...because this game really needs to move ahead.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 3:30 pm

Voting for me is a bad decision but at least you all won't be able to blame me for the death of this village. I will remind you that my feelings lie towards st_dysan. You are all being played.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 3:39 pm

Code: Select all

  Silky acc Nade(1)
  Silky wd Nade(0)
  Remus West acc Chaosraven(1)
  Remus West wd Chaosraven(0)
  Remus West acc Kelric(1)
  Remus West wd Kelric(0)
  PR_GMR acc Chaosraven(1)
  Kelric acc Chaosraven(2)
  Remus West acc Mr Bubbles(1)
  Silky acc Mr Bubbles(2)
Nade acc Mr Bubbles(3)
gbasden acc Remus West(1)
Chaosraven acc Mr Bubbles(4)
Mr Bubbles acc Remus West(2)
  Remus West wd Mr Bubbles(3)
Remus West acc st_dysan(1)-
  Silky wd Mr Bubbles(2)
Kraegor acc Chaosraven(3)
  Chaosraven wd Mr Bubbles(1)-
Chaosraven acc Kraegor(1)-
st_dysan acc Remus West(3)
Silky acc Remus West(4)
  Kelric wd Chaosraven(2)
Kelric acc Remus West(5)-
  PR_GMR wd Chaosraven(1)-
PR_GMR acc Remus West(6), killing him

Against Chaosraven(1): Kraegor
Against Mr Bubbles(1): Nade
Against Remus West(6): gbasden, Mr Bubbles, st_dysan, Silky, Kelric, PR_GMR
Against st_dysan(1): Remus West
Against Kraegor(1): Chaosraven

Votes required for a majority: 6

No vote registered:

Voting is closed

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 5:08 pm

"Mr. Rahatekar?"

"Yes", replied Hama. "I'm here".

"We know you've been tracking our work in LILLIES."

"Who is this? My intracom brands you 'Hydroponic Arboreal Engineering'."

"I'm your downpath neighbor. First NEgd from the bend."

"Uh-huh."

"I'm with the Nottingham East ABCC."

"I didn't know that."

"You've been busy during lockdown, Hama."

"Can't sleep all the time...."

"Time is critical, so let me get right to the point. You're a diagnostician. We need you."

"I'm sorry?"

"We need you. We've mapped active audiosensory signals onto archival materials, as you've seen. But interpreting the metasemantic domain is another matter. You have specialized domain knowledge."

"I'm a bit unclear about this. Are you asking for my help, or are you requisitioning my labor?"

"Your hatch is clear. You're temporarily exempt from lockdown. Come to the Vestibule near GravShaft East. Do not take a tatami. They're bioelectrically sensitive, and while the audiovisual monitors will register your presence, the tactile and olfactory systems have been overridden to facilitate your passage."

"But--"

"Come now."

"Why the urgency? If you're expecting me to deviate from protocol, the least--"

"NEgd13, Remus West, has been executed on strong suspicion of duplicity."

"He should've been under lockdown. Why execute him?"

"We were instructed to circumvene protocol. Howver, subsequent forensic assessment suggests he was innocent. Some of us now suspect that our clutch has been compromised, Mr. Rahatekar. For some of us, the ABCC's integrity is in doubt. Still, some of us believe that what knowledge we do possess may offer our only hope for preventing unmanageable disaster. That is why we need you. We need you to tell us everything you know about the French-Epstein device and its capabilities."

"'Some of us'? Fine. I'll be there. Soon." Hama offed his system, grabbed his unicycle by its seat, and touched the hatch. He hesitated, unsure of how he felt about the fact that it had indeed been unsealed.

"Unmanageable disaster? Semi-human...."

It is Night.
Snaresman: Tell me whom you will protect.
Slayer(s): Tell me whom you will pierce.
Tracker: Tell me whom you will follow.

PR_GMR · Post by **PR_GMR** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 5:25 pm

Oh, shit.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 5:29 pm

Kelric · Post by **Kelric** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 5:42 pm

No surprise. I suck in this game.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 11:17 am

When I was dreaming of you, those nights were long. When I saw you each day in the shop, time was so quick! Were you thinking of me, as I hoped and dared to suppose? Did you linger on purpose near the counter, as I did beyond it, staying much longer than your chores required? Did your glances say what I thought I heard them say, even though your words were few?

Were your hopes mine, or was I just a silly, idle fool?

Now, I dare not look into your eyes by day, and I am terrified to dream of them by night. When tomorrow comes, what will I do? If you looked back into my eyes and saw what I have done, you would despise me, and your heart would want only to destroy me.

It is Daybreak. Nottingham East remains under peripheral lockdown, but all domes have been fully retracted to expose every domestic interior to the path-punctuated forest environment.

The garotted, punched corpse of Kraegor lies at a tatamian roundabout.
Snaresman: Tell me whom you will protect this day.
Ag-Deck Residents: Voting will commence at noon near the roundabout.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 11:18 am

Austin (cleanly punched by a representative of Hiroshige Harriman Security Services, Ltd.)
Bakhtosh (punched)
Chaosraven
gbasden
Kelric
Kraegor (garotted, punched)
Mr Bubbles
Nade
Newcastle (strangled, punched)
Orinoco (punctured)
pr0ner (cleanly punched by a representative of Hiroshige Harriman Security Services, Ltd.)
PR_GMR
Remus West (cleanly punched by a representative of Hiroshige Harriman Security Services, Ltd.)
Silky
st_dysan
triggercut (shattered, punched, fried)
tru1cy (cleanly punched by a representative of Hiroshige Harriman Security Services, Ltd.)

Eight live. 5 votes needed for a majority.

Kelric · Post by **Kelric** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 11:32 am

I know I'm innocent, but I don't trust any of you!

I knew I should have stuck with my Chaosraven vote.

So.... Silky gets it this round. DIE!

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 11:35 am

Kelric wrote:I know I'm innocent, but I don't trust any of you!

I knew I should have stuck with my Chaosraven vote.

So.... Silky gets it this round. DIE!

easy there, slayer, it's not noon yet.

PR_GMR · Post by **PR_GMR** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 11:52 am

(PR GMR arrives in his trusty, banged up red hover card. He runs over 4 toxic waste disposal units when her parks his car. The toxic waste starts spilling everywhere and it starts corroding right thru the space station.... People on the floors below are heard screaming.)

So.. Those dastardly murderers are still at large. Justice may have failed, again, but that's how it goes.

Captain PR_GMR is here to sort it all out.

(PR goes off stage right to investigate)

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 11:55 am

And Kelric, dear, please try to remember we have to hit one THIS TIME or it is Game Over. A smattering of discussion might be in order.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 12:03 pm

It is noon. All survivors in Nottingham East except Hama Rahatekar have gathered at the roundabout. After a brief wait, someone from Engineering recognizes a quorum and discussion begins.

PR_GMR · Post by **PR_GMR** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 12:30 pm

(Lieutenant Captain PR_GMR opens his holo-notepad and walks up to Chaosraven)

Well, let's start with you, shall we? You've called for discussion. Who do you feel is a dastardly murderer.

(PR sniffs at Chaosraven)

Is that 'Eau De Guilt-e' I smell on you?

Kelric · Post by **Kelric** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 12:40 pm

Chaosraven wrote:And Kelric, dear, please try to remember we have to hit one THIS TIME or it is Game Over. A smattering of discussion might be in order.

At the rate I've been killing innocents, I just want this game to end. My guilty conscience can't take any more of this!

Silky · Post by **Silky** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 2:23 pm

Okay lets talk a minute about obvious game mechanics. 5 are villagers and 3 are slayers. 5 is the majority needed to lynch.

So let us assume for one minute that you are an innocent and you either want the game to end or do not want to be led around the nose. So you more or less blindly pick someone and vote for them. IF that person is not a slayer then all they need to do is wait for one other innocent to vote for that player for the game to be over. This is of course assuming the slayers are around and handy. Not particularly a risk I want to take.

The villagers have the majority but no voting block so I would actually put the advantage on the slayers. They obviously don't care about voting record at this point.

There is a whole lot smaller pool of people to draw from. We are down from 17 to 8. It is time for all of us to go back and re-read the thread from beginning to end and look for patterns, support, partnership, etc. with the remaining 7 in mind. (I will assume you are innocent if you are going to bother to do this)

Now for my thoughts on the situation.

1. Either voting records mean something or it doesn't. Others have done some work on this regard and I think the results may be telling. That obviously does not prove guilt however based upon Remus's innocence.

2. Do we find any particular need to heed Remus West's dying advice? Are we being played by the relatively quiet non-regulars?

3. Are the regulars manipulating everything from behind the scenes? Is there a Kelric and CR connection?

4. The Mr. Bubbles bandwagon died and perhaps for good reasons. The reasons why he was suspected IIRC is due to the villagers selected for slayings as well as the timing of those deaths. Should this be re-examined?

These are all the things I will be thinking about when I re-read the thread. Hopefully I will get some insight. If however you all just want the game to be over then go ahead and vote away. Chances are you picked an innocent and the slayers will pile on. It is time to put all the cards on the table and tell the village what you think and why you think it. Our backs are against the wall but I for one will not give up yet.

Kelric · Post by **Kelric** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 4:03 pm

Silky wrote:There is a whole lot smaller pool of people to draw from. We are down from 17 to 8. It is time for all of us to go back and re-read the thread from beginning to end and look for patterns, support, partnership, etc. with the remaining 7 in mind. (I will assume you are innocent if you are going to bother to do this)

Yeah, too lazy....

3. Are the regulars manipulating everything from behind the scenes? Is there a Kelric and CR connection?

Only if he is innocent as well.

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 1:12 am

Kelric wrote:Only if he is innocent as well.

Not that I trust you, but by that same standard how do you feel about Mr Bubbles? As I believe the two of you are the only ones who have voted for every lynched innocent.

as it would appear I was wrong about Kraegor...

I have no desire to post a collection of potentially out-of-context quotes and have another game labeled "Chaosraving", I would like our quiet friends to get involved here before two people vote for the same person and the bad guys finish us off.

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 2:09 am

Against tru1cy(10): tru1cy, Silky, PR_GMR, st_dysan, Kelric, Mr Bubbles, Kraegor, pr0ner, Remus West, Austin

Against Austin(8): Remus West, Bakhtosh, Mr Bubbles, Newcastle, Chaosraven, Nade, Kelric, pr0ner

Against pr0ner(7): Kelric, Chaosraven, Nade, Mr Bubbles, gbasden, st_dysan, Bakhtosh

Against Remus West(6): gbasden, Mr Bubbles, st_dysan, Silky, Kelric, PR_GMR

Kelric - 4
Mr Bubbles - 4
st_dysan - 3
Chaosraven - 2
gbasden - 2
Nade - 2
PR_GMR - 2
Silky - 2

Kelric · Post by **Kelric** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 12:40 pm

Chaosraven wrote:
Kelric wrote:Only if he is innocent as well.
Not that I trust you, but by that same standard how do you feel about Mr Bubbles?

At the rate I've been killing innocents, he could be anything. Same as any of you could be.

PR_GMR · Post by **PR_GMR** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 3:19 pm

(Detective Lieutenant PR_GMR comes back from a stroll around the space station.)

This space station is almost desolate! These dastardly murderers have nearly killed everyone in here!

Now, I've had a chance to peruse the events of the last few days in my holo-pad.

And it has become quite clear, as Chaosraven's statistical evidence shows...

(PR pulls out a tiny, tiny lazer gun. Points it at Kelric. Presses a little red button. The gun suddenly transforms, grows, and expands into a ridiculously huge Ion Cannon... it's barrel much larger than--and pointing straight down at-- Kelric's head.)

...Kelric, the punk, has been killing our people.

Kelric · Post by **Kelric** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 3:48 pm

Kill me if you must, but I'm innocent. Even if my actions inadvertently say otherwise.