Blood Sucking Freaks Redux. Fin.

pr0ner · Post by **pr0ner** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 6:39 pm

To add:

Time and time again, the only absolutely trustworthy good special, Chaosraven, has repeatedly believed me to be innocent. Why do the three of you voting for me ignore this to try to get me eliminated (and consistently ignore this in the case of Lassr and PR_GMR)? What, exactly, have I done that's vampiric?

triggercut · Post by **triggercut** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:15 pm

Going out for a few, I'll check in a while. For now, I'll say stake pr0ner, and we'll see what Chaosraven has to say when he gets here.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:18 pm

pr0ner wrote: What, exactly, have I done that's vampiric?

It's just a matter of elimination.

If Austin is the seer then triggercut is innocent.
That leaves you, me and PR-GMR as the only choices. I'm not a vampire.

If you are indeed innocent then we have either Austin and triggercut OR Austin and PR_GMR. Once again I am not a vampire.

But if you include me then you have Me and PR_GMR meaning one of us was not a twin but we are the twins so whatever...

Me and Austin
Me and proner

I think that's all the combos.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:22 pm

My best guess is Pr0ner and Lassr. I'll scan Lassr or PR_GMR tonight (for realz) and see who's who.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:25 pm

Austin wrote:My best guess is Pr0ner and Lassr. I'll scan Lassr or PR_GMR tonight (for realz) and see who's who.

I welcome it. Thankfully FTWalkers bluff gives you another night.

How many votes do we have now?

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:26 pm

That is to say, if Pr0ner = vampire than Lassr does too. Either way we'll get one of the twins scanned tonight and know for sure.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:26 pm

Lassr wrote:
Austin wrote:My best guess is Pr0ner and Lassr. I'll scan Lassr or PR_GMR tonight (for realz) and see who's who.
I welcome it. Thankfully FTWalkers bluff gives you another night.

How many votes do we have now?

3

Ralph-Wiggum · Post by **Ralph-Wiggum** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:28 pm

Vote count:

pr0ner - 3
PR_GMR - 1

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:39 pm

I must suck at counting.

I have voting for proner

PR_GMR
lassr
Austin
triggercut

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:40 pm

Lassr wrote:I must suck at counting.

I have voting for proner

PR_GMR
lassr
Austin
triggercut

I thought you withdrew.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:41 pm

Guess not. Okay, that's four than. Lets see the flop.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:48 pm

Austin wrote:Guess not. Okay, that's four than. Lets see the flop.

I reinstated the vote after thinking about it for a little bit.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:50 pm

if proner is innocent then I'm voting to lynch you in this game and in the first round of the next game we play!

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:58 pm

Lassr wrote:if proner is innocent then I'm voting to lynch you in this game and in the first round of the next game we play!

Why? I screwed up a scan. It's not worth getting petty over. Let's focus on winning this game and not carry over mistakes into future games.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:59 pm

While we are waiting. Things to think about after the outcome of this staking.

If proner is a vampire and he beserks on us then that means he was the converted. Which would also mean that neither PR_GMR nor I can be a vampire since we have both admitted to being a twin. One of us cannot be a twin and the other a vampire. The converted vampire is the berserker.

If proner is a regular vampire the we will have a choice between Austin or PR_GMR or me. Austin scan will clarify that info for one of us. If he says I'm a vampire then I know he is lying. If he says PR_GMR then I have to decide if I believe him.

Now, if proner comes back innocent then we are screwed unless we get lucky. That means (to me) that it has to be Austin and PR_GMR or Austin and triggercut. But to you all you'll have to vote with who you believe which I'm gathering a lot of you do not trust me.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 8:02 pm

Austin wrote:
Lassr wrote:if proner is innocent then I'm voting to lynch you in this game and in the first round of the next game we play!
Why? I screwed up a scan. It's not worth getting petty over. Let's focus on winning this game and not carry over mistakes into future games.

No. because that would mean you are a vampire!

Ralph-Wiggum · Post by **Ralph-Wiggum** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 8:05 pm

The crowd was eager to get to the staking after the boon the previous night had on their spirits. "pr0ner", they shouted. Against his protestations, pr0ner was lead up to the platform and the stake was driven through his heart.

pr0ner writhed in agony for over a minute. And then.... nothing. He was still. The blood drained from his cheeks and the color left his body. pr0ner was not a vampire.

It is Night.

Those that need to send PMs can send them now.

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 8:08 pm

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 8:11 pm

Austin has played us.

Good job.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 8:11 pm

Nice try on the setup Lassr. You seemed awfully sure Pr0ner was going to be innocent. Best opening moves ever by the villains! You have that going for you and I bow to the strategy. Anyway, I'll reserve judgment for the morning.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 8:15 pm

Yeah, I'm in a no win situation unless I convince people that you are a vampire. I know I'm not...

triggercut is probably the other one.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 8:20 pm

Lassr wrote:Yeah, I'm in a no win situation unless I convince people that you are a vampire. I know I'm not...

triggercut is probably the other one.

Probably eh

You're in a no win situation because we're onto you. At least I'm 99.9% sure now. I'll be 100% in the morning. You started accusing and threatening way before Pr0ner turned up innocent. So eager. Sir, I'll check you out tonight and let you know what I find tomorrow. You should have killed me last night.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 8:28 pm

Austin wrote:Nice try on the setup Lassr. You seemed awfully sure Pr0ner was going to be innocent. Best opening moves ever by the villains! You have that going for you and I bow to the strategy. Anyway, I'll reserve judgment for the morning.

It is you who will be commended. Just as I said in a PM to PR_GMR it is the perfect strategy. You and Bakhtosh fight over who is the seer. Lynch you, vampire and Bakhtosh survives until now (but that wasn't the plan, having me as the berserker would mean Chaos would have to stake me and then it would be found out Bakhtosh was lying) then they lynch him proving you are the seer. Then cover triggercut by listing him as scanned innocent.

It would appear that Remus was our seer.

That's the facts, hopefully everyone can see through your disguise.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 8:31 pm

Austin wrote:
Lassr wrote:Yeah, I'm in a no win situation unless I convince people that you are a vampire. I know I'm not...

triggercut is probably the other one.
Probably eh

You should have killed me last night.

probably, unless it's PR_GMR.

I haven't the power to kill except with a vote to lynch.

I agree, the cards are stacked against me right now. I just hope someone else can see the truth.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 8:45 pm

they kill tonight and if I convince you of Austin and we lynch him then they kill tomorrow night.

leaving 2 villagers and 1 vampire. then we select triggercut (who I believe is the beserker) then he takes one of us with him. We have 1 left. we win.

With a kill tonight, If Austin is the beserker (I doubt the vampires would convert him since he is a target in these games for lynching) then he takes one of us and then they kill tomorrow night. leaving 1 on 1 and we lose.

I believe that's how it works out.

My question is who is the last vampire. PR_GMR or triggercut. Guess would be triggercut since he was scanned as innocent by Austin.

FTWalker · Post by **FTWalker** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 9:42 pm

Just wanted to say that it's been fun, seeing as how it's probably my last night

See you on the Other Side....

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 9:49 pm

FTWalker wrote:Just wanted to say that it's been fun, seeing as how it's probably my last night

See you on the Other Side....

If we win this, you won it for us.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 10:50 pm

Austin wrote:
FTWalker wrote:Just wanted to say that it's been fun, seeing as how it's probably my last night

See you on the Other Side....
If we win this, you won it for us.

triggercut · Post by **triggercut** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 11:19 pm

If Austin's playing anyone, he's playing me as well as the other villagers. I've had no PM's to verify, no nothing. I was sort of surprised when he revealed I was a scan target.

I will note with interest that our "Twins" were first on the pr0ner staking tip.

So we're sort of at square one. I'm not sure that staking pr0ner did us any good--we're left with a lot of the same suspicions. In hindsight, it almost would've been better to have staked me--my innocence would've done some good to verify Austin's status and to have revealed what appears to be some inconsistency with both PR and/or Lassr at this point.

triggercut · Post by **triggercut** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 11:26 pm

BTW, after he "scans" tonight (if he is the seer, which seems somewhat doubtful now), Austin would appear to be pretty disposable. I mean, at this point I feel like he's led me down the path pretty damned well.

Honestly, I think it entirely possible I could've been reported as a "scan" and kept alive by the vamps as insurance for this particular endgame possibility.

In any event, reading back over the thread, if you buy into Lassr's premise vis a vis his scan of FTW, it sure looks like weak sauce.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 11:28 pm

triggercut wrote:IIn hindsight, it almost would've been better to have staked me--my innocence would've done some good to verify Austin's status

unless PR_GMR is the other vampire. It could be Austin and PR_GMR. I only point at you because Austin had scanned you innocent and now that I know Austin is not the seer then I assume he listed you as innocent to save you until the end of the game.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 11:30 pm

triggercut wrote:BTW, after he "scans" tonight (if he is the seer, which seems somewhat doubtful now), Austin would appear to be pretty disposable. I mean, at this point I feel like he's led me down the path pretty damned well.

Honestly, I think it entirely possible I could've been reported as a "scan" and kept alive by the vamps as insurance for this particular endgame possibility.

In any event, reading back over the thread, if you buy into Lassr's premise vis a vis his scan of FTW, it sure looks like weak sauce.

ok, wow. You may actually be innocent...

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 8:38 am

*sigh*

PR_GMR · Post by **PR_GMR** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 10:00 am

Wow... just wow.

We've been played hardcore.

Austin *has got* to be a vampire. There's just no other way.

I'm an innocent lad... When I die, either tonight or tommorrow, this will be confirmed.

We all fell hook line and sinker for Austin as the Seer. We've been majorly manipulated!

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 10:03 am

Austin wrote:
Lassr wrote:Yeah, I'm in a no win situation unless I convince people that you are a vampire. I know I'm not...

triggercut is probably the other one.
Probably eh

. Sir, I'll check you out tonight and let you know what I find tomorrow.

Why do you even need to scan me or PR_GMR? If everything you say is true then PR_GMR and me are the only 2 left that can be vampires.

Chaos is the hunter. FTWalker is the garlic dispenser. You claim to be the seer, you claim triggercut was scanned innocent. That leaves the twins. So for both of us to be vampires then that means one of us was an original vampire and the other is the converted twin. Which would mean Remus had to be the other twin. PR_GMR knows this is not true and I know it not to be true. Question for me is whether you converted PR_GMR or triggercut?

PR_GMR · Post by **PR_GMR** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 10:12 am

Lassr wrote:
Austin wrote:
Lassr wrote:Yeah, I'm in a no win situation unless I convince people that you are a vampire. I know I'm not...

triggercut is probably the other one.
Probably eh

. Sir, I'll check you out tonight and let you know what I find tomorrow.
Why do you even need to scan me or PR_GMR? If everything you say is true then PR_GMR and me are the only 2 left that can be vampires.

Chaos is the hunter. FTWalker is the garlic dispenser. You claim to be the seer, you claim triggercut was scanned innocent. That leaves the twins. So for both of us to be vampires then that means one of us was an original vampire and the other is the converted twin. Which would mean Remus had to be the other twin. PR_GMR knows this is not true and I know it not to be true. Question for me is whether you converted PR_GMR or triggercut?

The two remaining vampires have got to be Austin and Triggercut. The numbers don't add up otherwise.

They fed us the lie that Austin was the Seer. Hell, even FTWalker admitted he didn't defend Austin last night.

I will go to my grave knowing I'm innocent.. and won't betray my twin, Lassr.

Ralph-Wiggum · Post by **Ralph-Wiggum** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 10:13 am

The sun rose over Lake Woebegone and rosey fingered dawn ushered in a new day. The villagers gathered and looked around to see if anyone was missing. As they expected, one person had not joined them.

Together they traveled to the missing villager's house and found a familiar scene - a lifeless body laying in his bed, eyes wide open with terror. The vampires had come the night before and ended FTWalker's life.

Everyone gathered back in the center of town. They knew today was crucial if they wanted to end this reign of terror. They had to chose who to stake. It was now or never.

It is Day.

A majority is 3.

PR_GMR · Post by **PR_GMR** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 10:15 am

On the name of The Queen! Die, Austin, Die!

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 10:20 am

Austin had to say he "scanned" FTWalker after the failed draining of FTWalker because proner's innocence "scan" would have proven to me Austin was the vampire. "Scanning" PR-GMR as an innocent also would prove to me he was a vampire. "Scanning" me innocent would have proven to either triggercut or PR_GMR that Austin was a vampire. By avoiding that and saying he "scanned" someone else that was semi-trusted kept us at a stand still. Scanning of me, PR_GMR or proner would have provided more info which is something he doesn't want out there.

FTWalker protecting himself gave us one more day and room for error.
Austin's plan was to kill FTWalker (Austin thinking that FTWalker was not protecting himself)then we lynch proner, game over.

stake Austin

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 10:20 am

Chaos must vote for either me, or one of the 'twins'. He votes for me and the village loses, he votes for the wrong twin and the village loses.

Lassr asks me why I'd even want to scan. Interesting question for such an analytical sort. Why would I want to scan? Hmmm... what happens if we lynch the Berserker today? I have a scan result. Anyone want to see it? What do you think it will say Lassr?

(might be a double post due to forum crapouts)