[WW] The Crimson Moon Returns

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 12:51 pm

What kind of screwed up town is this where we all live amongst each other, presumably use each other's services and yet we can't identify each other's roles? Hmmm... Mr. Grunbegriff you look oddly familiar, can't place you though. BTW, I need to pay the guy who built my house, any idea who I need to talk to? Do I send a check to Remus?

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 12:53 pm

Austin wrote:Do I send a check to Remus?

The answer to that question is always "Yes, and feel free to make it a blank signed one."

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 1:05 pm

Austin wrote:What kind of screwed up town is this where we all live amongst each other, presumably use each other's services and yet we can't identify each other's roles?

We are a village of the blind and everyone keeps disguising their voice to piss me off.

tru1cy · Post by **tru1cy** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 3:50 pm

Holy Hell, I'm glad I checked this forum to see if the game jumped off. Glad to see you, Z

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 3:55 pm

tru1cy wrote:Holy Hell, I'm glad I checked this forum to see if the game jumped off. Glad to see you, Z

Uhhh....

tru1cy · Post by **tru1cy** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 3:59 pm

Austin wrote:
tru1cy wrote:Holy Hell, I'm glad I checked this forum to see if the game jumped off. Glad to see you, Z
Uhhh....

What? I rarely check this forum anymore unless a active game is going. I didn't think a game was going to start since we was missing a player for about a week.

As usual I have no special role and offing me won't harm the village. Since we have such a small player pool I won't be voting for myself, but I would. Anyway, back to work

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 4:05 pm

tru1cy wrote:
Austin wrote:
tru1cy wrote:Holy Hell, I'm glad I checked this forum to see if the game jumped off. Glad to see you, Z
Uhhh....

What? I rarely check this forum anymore unless a active game is going. I didn't think a game was going to start since we was missing a player for about a week.

As usual I have no special role and offing me won't harm the village. Since we have such a small player pool I won't be voting for myself, but I would. Anyway, back to work

Noted.

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 5:36 pm

As the dawn approached, the Village was startled by a sudden scream that was cut short by howls and then eerie silence. When the Village gathered in the morning they were horrified to find Unagi rent asunder, it took them some time to find enough of him to bury.

It is Day.
Nine Players remain.
Majority is 5.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 7:00 pm

Well, thats a second oddity. Be interesting to see what Grund makes of it.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 7:03 pm

Remus West wrote:Well, thats a second oddity. Be interesting to see what Grund makes of it.

Why Grund? What do you make of it?

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 7:17 pm

Austin wrote:
Remus West wrote:Well, thats a second oddity. Be interesting to see what Grund makes of it.
Why Grund? What do you make of it?

Grund because I figure he was top of the "to be eaten" list. Doesn't mean he is wolf as it would not be the first time the bad guys left him alive (as you well know) but it still interests me.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 8:19 pm

Unagi played a very good game in the last one. Very vocal with good analyzing skills. I think that's why he was killed.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 8:25 pm

Anyway... nobody else bothered by Tru1cy's apparent (act of?) not receiving a PM? I mean we all received roles in one shape or form; I know I got a PM and I'm vanilla.

Zurai · Post by **Zurai** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 8:51 pm

Austin wrote:Anyway... nobody else bothered by Tru1cy's apparent (act of?) not receiving a PM? I mean we all received roles in one shape or form; I know I got a PM and I'm vanilla.

Yeah, that struck me as really strange. I even went back and double checked - every single player should have gotten a role PM. Maybe he just doesn't check his PMs any more? Still strange...

tru1cy · Post by **tru1cy** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 9:09 pm

Austin wrote:Anyway... nobody else bothered by Tru1cy's apparent (act of?) not receiving a PM? I mean we all received roles in one shape or form; I know I got a PM and I'm vanilla.

nice spin job wolfboy. I am claiming not to be the seer or priest. I recieved a PM just like everyone else. Sheesh, you a reaching harder than normal

Will wait to see what everyone else think of the butchering of Unagi...especially Grund as I would think he would be offed first.

As usual Austin has jumped up to the top of the wolfie meter

Mr Bubbles · Post by **Mr Bubbles** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 9:17 pm

Austin wrote:Anyway... nobody else bothered by Tru1cy's apparent (act of?) not receiving a PM? I mean we all received roles in one shape or form; I know I got a PM and I'm vanilla.

Not saying it's pointing to his guilt, but I certainly was peaked by tru1cy's post. Not sure what to make of it yet. Of course it reeks of obiviousness. But whether or not its a double fold we shall see.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 9:21 pm

Austin wrote:Anyway... nobody else bothered by Tru1cy's apparent (act of?) not receiving a PM? I mean we all received roles in one shape or form; I know I got a PM and I'm vanilla.

I did say that Unagi's death was the SECOND oddity did I not. What other odd event did you think I may have been refering to?

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 9:22 pm

/puts his supplies back into his satchel, folds his chair and walks over to the rest of the chattering villagers.

"Boy, oh boy. What a strange sense of humor those wolves have. It would seem to me that they have decided to engage in some hazing of the new guy. Shame on you wolfies, shame on you.'

Walks away

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 9:45 pm

tru1cy wrote:
Austin wrote:Anyway... nobody else bothered by Tru1cy's apparent (act of?) not receiving a PM? I mean we all received roles in one shape or form; I know I got a PM and I'm vanilla.

nice spin job wolfboy. I am claiming not to be the seer or priest. I recieved a PM just like everyone else. Sheesh, you a reaching harder than normal

Will wait to see what everyone else think of the butchering of Unagi...especially Grund as I would think he would be offed first.

As usual Austin has jumped up to the top of the wolfie meter

I'm not the only one perplexed. You came in and said that you were glad you stumbled in here as the game had started. Point is if you received a PM you would have known the game had started without stumbling in. The only reason I can think that you would post what you did was a goof up, where a wolf didn't read the rules and tried to play unpowered, who didn't get a PM.

go back and reread your entry post. Why didn't you realize the game had started if you received a PM?

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 9:49 pm

Remus West wrote:
Austin wrote:Anyway... nobody else bothered by Tru1cy's apparent (act of?) not receiving a PM? I mean we all received roles in one shape or form; I know I got a PM and I'm vanilla.
I did say that Unagi's death was the SECOND oddity did I not. What other odd event did you think I may have been refering to?

I figured but I was trying to get some discussion going and see who else had comments on it. I can't figure it out but it's almost too bad a gaff to be real. Of course with my resolution to play focused on the best evidence we have makes Tru1cy my vote for now.

tru1cy · Post by **tru1cy** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 10:33 pm

Austin wrote:
tru1cy wrote:
Austin wrote:Anyway... nobody else bothered by Tru1cy's apparent (act of?) not receiving a PM? I mean we all received roles in one shape or form; I know I got a PM and I'm vanilla.

nice spin job wolfboy. I am claiming not to be the seer or priest. I recieved a PM just like everyone else. Sheesh, you a reaching harder than normal

Will wait to see what everyone else think of the butchering of Unagi...especially Grund as I would think he would be offed first.

As usual Austin has jumped up to the top of the wolfie meter
I'm not the only one perplexed. You came in and said that you were glad you stumbled in here as the game had started. Point is if you received a PM you would have known the game had started without stumbling in. The only reason I can think that you would post what you did was a goof up, where a wolf didn't read the rules and tried to play unpowered, who didn't get a PM.

go back and reread your entry post. Why didn't you realize the game had started if you received a PM?

You really meta-gaming now. Anyway, I don't log in when I hit this OO unless I have something to post and unless I hit my hotmail account, which I didn't, I wouldn't know I recieved a pm. So when I checked this forum just to see if anyone else had joined the game to my surprise it had started. You are really reaching here and normally you are more focused than this

Austin gets my vote for right now, but I ask everyone to hold off on voting til everyone checks in

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 11:11 pm

Austin wrote:Anyway... nobody else bothered by Tru1cy's apparent (act of?) not receiving a PM? I mean we all received roles in one shape or form; I know I got a PM and I'm vanilla.

Oh yes. I started to comment on it when he said it but didn't since it was still night.

The way it read was he stumbled in here and discovered the game had started then noticed at the top of the screen that he had a PM.

He could be wired differently but I always notice when I first come into the forum if I have a PM. That's how i knew the game had started.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 11:14 pm

tru1cy wrote: You really meta-gaming now. Anyway, I don't log in when I hit this OO unless I have something to post and unless I hit my hotmail account, which I didn't, I wouldn't know I recieved a pm. So when I checked this forum just to see if anyone else had joined the game to my surprise it had started.

Guess I should read all the posts before I reply.

Possible, but who doesn't stay logged in automatically, besides Tru1cy.
Getting too meta-game so I'm going to hold off voting and look for other clues right now.

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 11:18 pm

Lassr wrote:
tru1cy wrote: You really meta-gaming now. Anyway, I don't log in when I hit this OO unless I have something to post and unless I hit my hotmail account, which I didn't, I wouldn't know I recieved a pm. So when I checked this forum just to see if anyone else had joined the game to my surprise it had started.
Guess I should read all the posts before I reply.

Possible, but who doesn't stay logged in automatically, besides Tru1cy.
Getting too meta-game so I'm going to hold off voting and look for other clues right now.

being meta-gamey here however, i am frequently logged out of the OO, although my settings are set to remember. I know there is an issue with that, however i dont have the time nor inclination to investigate teh root causes. It's simply not high on my priority list at the moment.

Zurai · Post by **Zurai** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 1:13 am

Yeah, I get logged out from time to time as well. Especially if my browser crashes while I'm browsing OO.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 6:31 am

It is pretty meta but Tru1cy had to be pushed on it just in case. For now I'll withdraw Tru1cy as he has been sufficiently pushed for now. I do like the fact he doesn't self-vote anymore though.

Pr0ner - He's a slippery one, darting through the shadows and all that.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 6:44 am

Unagi wrote:Very excited to play again!
I am happy to report that I no longer thatch roofs.
Lets see here, should I reveal my new trade roll now or wait for a little while in hopes to link with a Seer/Priest. Linking may actually be a ‘wolf’ thing to try, so maybe waiting too long would be less helpful. Also, I’m not certain how much ‘Night 1’ talk we should get into.
Grundbegriff’s game analysis has the interesting effect of making me trust him and suspect him simultaneously. Everything he’s said so far seems helpful and not misleading, so I am inclined to trust him at this point. Remus, on the other hand, should just never be trusted.

Here's Unagi's one night post. I can't find much in there to point to a killer. I get the feeling that he trusted Grund, or could easily be pushed that way and I think Grund would have kept him around. He jokes about distrusting Remus which doesn't help much as I don't think Remus would have worried about that either way. It was friendly enough that it really said, "I think you're a good player".

Perhaps there is something frame-up worthy in here, but I'm starting to think they just picked someone who might be a special (aka anyone) and who might cause confusion. Thoughts?

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 8:24 am

Austin wrote:I'm starting to think "they" just picked someone who might be a special (aka anyone) and who might cause confusion. Thoughts?

Definitely causes confusion. Why'd you do that, Austin?

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 8:26 am

Grundbegriff wrote:
Austin wrote:I'm starting to think "they" just picked someone who might be a special (aka anyone) and who might cause confusion. Thoughts?
Definitely causes confusion. Why'd you do that, Austin?

They = wolves. What should I call them?

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 8:31 am

Grundbegriff wrote:
Austin wrote:I'm starting to think "they" just picked someone who might be a special (aka anyone) and who might cause confusion. Thoughts?
Definitely causes confusion. Why'd you do that, Austin?

That's all we get about it? I had hoped for something more.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 8:51 am

thought about it while getting ready for work and I just do not see any reason Grundbegriff is still alive.
Grundbegriff.

tru1cy · Post by **tru1cy** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 9:00 am

Remus West wrote:thought about it while getting ready for work and I just do not see any reason Grundbegriff is still alive.
Grundbegriff.

Withdraw Austin for now to allow discussion

Remus and Austin seem very quick to jump to judgment. Hell, Remus isn't even poking the quiets one which speaks volumes. I'm a little disappointed that Grund didn't have a more in-depth analysis of the way poor Unagi was filet, but I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for now. I would like more discussion ffrom the quiets ones before we get to voting

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 9:00 am

Remus West wrote:thought about it while getting ready for work and I just do not see any reason Grundbegriff is still alive.
Grundbegriff.

Actually as hurt as I am that he's voting for me (

) I don't think, "because he wasn't killed last night" is a good enough reason to vote for him. I can understand some votes on me as I'm being active and well, that draws attention, but I wouldn't vote for Grund just because the wolves chose someone else.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 9:03 am

Remus West wrote:thought about it while getting ready for work and I just do not see any reason Grundbegriff is still alive.
Grundbegriff.

Well, you're making it easy for them.

I'm not a Werewolf. I'm a Carpenter.
I don't know why they left me alive. Probably so someone like you would do something like that.
Killing Unagi was a good play. It sows confusion because nobody knows who would be likely to choose him, but everyone saw in the previous game that he's an attentive player.
Killing Unagi is not the move I would've made were I a Werewolf. Y'all know I like to leave the strongest players alive and then try to torment them.
I get automatically logged off OO despite my persistent cookie settings, too. I don't hold that against tru1cy. Nevertheless, I think his "I didn't know the game had started" combined with his "I did get a PM" looks like a "poke the innocents" moment. Sure, it's possible not to notice that you're logged out; but not to notice that when you're eagerly awaiting a game you looked forward to playing in which the first event is your receipt of a role? Not. Making. Sense.

pr0ner · Post by **pr0ner** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 9:29 am

Austin wrote:It is pretty meta but Tru1cy had to be pushed on it just in case. For now I'll withdraw Tru1cy as he has been sufficiently pushed for now. I do like the fact he doesn't self-vote anymore though.

Pr0ner - He's a slippery one, darting through the shadows and all that.

Why'd you decide to push me, then? Poking the silents? That's a Remus strategy, I thought.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 9:50 am

pr0ner wrote:
Austin wrote:It is pretty meta but Tru1cy had to be pushed on it just in case. For now I'll withdraw Tru1cy as he has been sufficiently pushed for now. I do like the fact he doesn't self-vote anymore though.

Pr0ner - He's a slippery one, darting through the shadows and all that.
Why'd you decide to push me, then? Poking the silents? That's a Remus strategy, I thought.

Everybody complained about that strategy from me. Now everyone complains that I'm not doing it. I like my new strategy though so I am going to continue to see where it gets me.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 9:51 am

Grundbegriff wrote:I'm a Carpenter.

It's raining today. Are you feeling down?

Mr Bubbles · Post by **Mr Bubbles** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 9:52 am

Well you certainly aren't getting a pass being quiet. Of course with this few people lynching the innocents can get us into trouble fast. Speaking of which makes Grund seem awfully suspicious

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 9:52 am

Remus West wrote:
Grundbegriff wrote:I'm a Carpenter.
It's raining today. Are you feeling down?

Funny but it seems I always wind up here with you.

tru1cy · Post by **tru1cy** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 10:26 am

Still not sure on whom to vote for atm. I'm leaning towards Austin or Remus at the moment just from recent post. I'll hold off while we gather more information. No need to rush this vote.