World of Darkness-Kine Strikes Back-Game Over-Kindred Win

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:10 am

With regard to my flippity flopping some games, it's due to typing things as I think of them. Either I haven't followed the train all the way through and I post and repost at the end, or someone makes a good point and I respond to it. I usually decide how much attention I'll give a game before it starts. The GT game I didn't post much until the end when I was fairly confident in the baddies. I think I was somewhat sedated in the last game too. I wanted to participate in this one and it happened to be a wild one. Lots of confusion and so I've been caught up in running back and forth between camps and ideas. Grund has proven to be a good bad guy this game for all the confusion he has spread.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:10 am

Code: Select all

  Austin acc Grundbegriff(1)
Genghis acc Kraegor(1)
Grundbegriff acc Genghis(1)
pr0ner acc Grundbegriff(2)
  Austin wd Grundbegriff(1)
Kraegor acc Genghis(2)-
  Remus West acc Kraegor(2)
  Remus West wd Kraegor(1)
Remus West acc Kraegor(2)
  Austin acc Grundbegriff(2)
  Lassr acc Kraegor(3)
  Lassr wd Kraegor(2)
Newcastle acc Kraegor(3)
  Austin wd Grundbegriff(1)-
Austin acc Kraegor(4)
Lassr acc Kraegor(5), killing him.

Against Grundbegriff(1): pr0ner
Against Kraegor(5): Genghis, Remus West, Newcastle, Austin, Lassr
Against Genghis(2): Grundbegriff, Kraegor

Votes required for lynchification: 5

No vote registered:

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:10 am

I am not a Vampire. Although I did have a nasty, nasty nightmare a couple of nights ago. Bah-- it was probably nothing.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:16 am

tru1cy wrote:Against Grundbegriff(1): pr0ner
Against Kraegor(5): Genghis, Remus West, Newcastle, Austin , lassr
Against Genghis(2): Grundbegriff, Kraegor

VOTING IS CLOSED

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:17 am

Grundbegriff wrote:I am not a Vampire. Although I did have a nasty, nasty nightmare a couple of nights ago. Bah-- it was probably nothing.

If it's Genghis, Grund and Newcastle.

tru1cy · Post by **tru1cy** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:20 am

Grundbegriff picked up the sword and walked over to Kraegor smirking. Kraegor started to speak, but faster than humanly possible he stroke Kraegor's head off. The blood spray proved without a doubt the Kraegor was Kine.

Panic spread through the rest of the Kine cause thier fate was apparently sealed. All went to bed knowing that this might be thier last night on earth

It is now night

Specials send me your PM

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:22 am

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:23 am

it was too good to be true.

Good games you bastards.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:35 am

Wait-- maybe there's still hope....

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:36 am

So is it over then? Should we go through the motions? Can we still tie?

Genghis, Grund, ... Remus?

I allowed myself to be swayed on Trig and on Kreagor. Damnit.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:39 am

Grundbegriff wrote:Wait-- maybe there's still hope....

4-3 now

3-3 after tonight - game over since you'd need 4 votes to lynch-3 votes lynch and game still on but that's not the rules.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:39 am

tru1cy's doing a write-up

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:40 am

truicy - if the game if over...end it please. Just end it.

/walks away hanging his head in shame.

tru1cy · Post by **tru1cy** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:41 am

It is day

Once again you all gather and find only six remain. pr0ner corpse is found drained of all his blood. Remus West looks at Grundbegriff smiles revealing his pointed fangs, " See childe? How easily manipluated the kine can be? " Genghis also showing his fangs clapped Grundbegriff on his back ," Welcome to Clan Brujah. You have the mind of a Ventrue and will serve our clan well"

The remaining Kine tried to run for the door, but never made it. The feeding orgy is best left not describe

Players:
Remus West: Elder Brujah
Genghis : Lesser Brujah
Grundbegriff : Childer of Caine

Unagi : Mage
Scoop20906 : Priest
Chaosraven: Kine
Lassr: Kine
pr0ner: Kine
Austin: Kine
Kraegor: Kine
newcastle: Kine
triggercut: Kine

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:41 am

my bet is that it is

genghis, grund, and remus as the missing link.

And by the way all, good game. Good game obfuscating matters grund.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:43 am

Good game. Shoulda' stuck to my guns.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:43 am

Good game, everyone.

So then, Scoop-- what was really on your mind when you protected Remus Beast?

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:44 am

And this is why I like specials to come out earlier. We had little choice but trust Genghis.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:44 am

Here's a link to Brujah Central

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:45 am

Congrats to the vamps! I got greedy on Night 2 and tried to protect remus west (which would be like scanning him). I felt strongly Grund was a vamp and felt the odds were with me that BOTH remus and grund were not vamps. I was wrong and never got to use my stake power or anything and really through of the game.

Grund, Remus, and genghis then had the village spinning in circles. Remus really had my confused. Man, it is difficult being a special.

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:47 am

and FYI, on Night one I chose to protect no one so I could have chosen to protect myself on Night two but went with remus instead.

Genghis · Post by **Genghis** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:48 am

Scoop20906 wrote:Congrats to the vamps! I got greedy on Night 2 and tried to protect remus west (which would be like scanning him). I felt strongly Grund was a vamp and felt the odds were with me that BOTH remus and grund were not vamps. I was wrong and never got to use my stake power or anything and really through of the game.

Grund, Remus, and genghis then had the village spinning in circles. Remus really had my confused. Man, it is difficult being a special.

The main problem with using your ability like that was no one knew who you detonated on.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:50 am

vamp forums wrote:Austin is still a wildcard. His late vote against Chaosraven looks bad, so maybe he's lynch fodder. Worth keeping alive for the sport, if nothing else.

tru1cy · Post by **tru1cy** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:51 am

Few things:

Again I want to apologize for not posting the rule on the roles being revealed upon a kill. It was a pretty important rule and should have been put out there. Again, everyone please accept my apology.

I was actually cheering for the Kine. I was hoping Austin would have stuck to his guns and voted for Grund

Grund living past day two should be a red flag for either side. There is a reason he dies early in these games. He muddied the water so much for the Kine it wasn't funny

Remus West + Grund on the same team is just evil. Thier plan to play off of each other worked well

Scoop made a rookie mistake in protecting Remus. In a way he was much more important to the Kine than Unagi.

It was freaky how Grund and Remus picked both specials at the beginning of the game

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:52 am

Genghis wrote:
Scoop20906 wrote:Congrats to the vamps! I got greedy on Night 2 and tried to protect remus west (which would be like scanning him). I felt strongly Grund was a vamp and felt the odds were with me that BOTH remus and grund were not vamps. I was wrong and never got to use my stake power or anything and really through of the game.

Grund, Remus, and genghis then had the village spinning in circles. Remus really had my confused. Man, it is difficult being a special.
The main problem with using your ability like that was no one knew who you detonated on.

Yeah you could have dropped a hint but please don't beat yourself up. It's a game and if Remus had of been Kine it would have been a boon to us. Sometimes everything goes wrong for a team.

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:52 am

Genghis wrote:
Scoop20906 wrote:Congrats to the vamps! I got greedy on Night 2 and tried to protect remus west (which would be like scanning him). I felt strongly Grund was a vamp and felt the odds were with me that BOTH remus and grund were not vamps. I was wrong and never got to use my stake power or anything and really through of the game.

Grund, Remus, and genghis then had the village spinning in circles. Remus really had my confused. Man, it is difficult being a special.
The main problem with using your ability like that was no one knew who you detonated on.

Yeah, it was a big gamble but the payoff would have made it worth it.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:53 am

Austin wrote:And this is why I like specials to come out earlier. We had little choice but trust Genghis.

damn, what are the odds that we would lose the specials so early. Even if we went your route and voted Grund we'd still be in the same boat the next night and this torture would have continued.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:53 am

Austin wrote:
vamp forums wrote:Austin is still a wildcard. His late vote against Chaosraven looks bad, so maybe he's lynch fodder. Worth keeping alive for the sport, if nothing else.

Sorry, sweetie. You thought you were taunting me and catching me all the way along. But things didn't work out that way, because you were the mouse, not the cat.

I still phear your mad skillz, tho.

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:55 am

Can anyone please explain was Grund wasn't lynched??? He was asking for it??

Genghis · Post by **Genghis** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:57 am

Scoop20906 wrote:Can anyone please explain was Grund wasn't lynched??? He was asking for it??

If you this this was bad, you should go read the husk game. He was scanned nearly 6 times before he was lynched.

Genghis · Post by **Genghis** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:59 am

We had planned to have me come out as the mage even before we knew the mage was dead. First time being on the evil side, was intresting to se ethe behind the scenes action.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 11:02 am

Genghis wrote:First time being on the evil side

I hadn't realized that. Good job! Your rationale for why everyone should believe you were the Mage was perfect. I couldn't even think of a fake argument to throw at it.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 11:04 am

I couldn't get a Grund wagon rolling. Couldn't do it.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 11:05 am

Grundbegriff wrote:
Austin wrote:
vamp forums wrote:Austin is still a wildcard. His late vote against Chaosraven looks bad, so maybe he's lynch fodder. Worth keeping alive for the sport, if nothing else.

Sorry, sweetie. You thought you were taunting me and catching me all the way along. But things didn't work out that way, because you were the mouse, not the cat.

I still phear your mad skillz, tho.

Is that why you told Gegnhis to say I was the first scan as it would play to my vanity?

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 11:08 am

Yeah I was working hard to discredit Genghis with anything I could find. I couldn't find anything so I had to trust him. Still the push for lynching Kraegor just seemed off. Then Kraegor went into poor me mode and it snapped me over to a WTF, might as well do this now vote.

Ask Remus what my weakness is in these games. It worked on me two days straight. Get me bored and I'll screw up every time.

triggercut · Post by **triggercut** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 11:10 am

It wasn't vampires that killed this village.

It was natural selection.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 11:26 am

Scoop20906 wrote:Can anyone please explain was Grund wasn't lynched??? He was asking for it??

I tried in round 2.

Round 3 it didn't seem to matter if we went Grund or kraegor. If one was not a vampire we would have been screwed. If we lynched Grund then the next day we would be still asking can we trust Genghis. The answer would still have to be yes since Grund was a vamp and going the other direction would have severely reduced the odds of winning. Had to go with the logical path of victory but it was wrong.

We lost losing you and Unagi so early.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 11:29 am

Lassr wrote:
Scoop20906 wrote:Can anyone please explain was Grund wasn't lynched??? He was asking for it??
...We lost losing you and Unagi so early.

If it's any comfort, our kill choice on the night Scoop preempted us was Unagi. So things would've gone down pretty much the same way if Scoop had lived.

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 11:33 am

Lassr wrote:We lost losing you and Unagi so early.

Agreed, I learned alot from this game.

Also, I was kind of enjoyable reading everyone trying to figure out why I died and all that stuff.

Also, to clear up my last comment, I was not trying to leave a clue about protecting triggercut BUT I was trying to leave a veiled clue that I had a great risk to die that night from either protecting a vamp or getting sucked myself. I'm not so good with the clues. Being a special is hard.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 11:33 am

Austin wrote:Yeah I was working hard to discredit Genghis with anything I could find. I couldn't find anything so I had to trust him.

Ditto, the post where he tells Newcastle that his vote would tell him something and what it told him is to scan Grund was VERY good. That really swayed me. Also the fact that Unagi just happened to be the Mage (or the Mage was converted night 1) seemed like low odds. All that combined really made Genghis' case pretty solid.

The one thing that ate at my gut though was that the info and timing was just so convenient to almost guarantee a win. But as I said going against him would have almost guaranteed a loss. The perfect trap.