Battlestar Galactica II - Day 4 - Humans win.

[Chaosraven]

sure glad ya'll know how to listen. Did I or did I not say scoop was not cylon?

ya'll couldnt wait to talk out a vote in which I told you at least 4 times that following chaos' advice would lead to a village loss??????????

The Emperor: Everything that has transpired has done so according to my design.

[Chaosraven]

You know there's no going back once majority is hit, right? So no final words? Nothing about the cylons eventually winning in the end no matter what happens here? I was hoping for higher drama...

It is what my little story was for, Sir. To amuse you.

[Kraegor]

sure glad ya'll know how to listen. Did I or did I not say scoop was not cylon?

ya'll couldnt wait to talk out a vote in which I told you at least 4 times that following chaos' advice would lead to a village loss??????????

The Emperor: Everything that has transpired has done so according to my design.

least I called it before the first shot was fired.

chaos = 6
unagi = 12
trig = cavil
austin = baltar.

[Lassr]

Autopsy of Scoop20906

2 hours later everyone hurried back to the dining hall to get the results of the autopsy. There was an excitement in the air. Could this be over finally. RevHempus71 grabbed the envelope off the table. He looked up at the room and saw all eyes were on him. With a deep sigh he opens the envelope. “Autopsy results found a microchip implanted in the brain. Scoop20906 was a Cylon.”
The room erupted in a cheer. The hugs and handshakes were interrupted by stessier, “We aren’t safe yet.”
“Yeah, we need to fry this toaster sitting right here to be safe.” Yelled kraegor.
“No! No, that’s not what I meant.” Implored stessier. “I feel we can trust Chaosraven but we have to be sure there are no more.”
“He’s right. Let’s get this mess cleaned up. It’s still early, let’s go back to talking about our Cylon strategy andthen turn in for the night. We’ve still got 6 hours.” Genghis then turns and picks up a mop.

6 hours later everyone turns in for the night.

0700

Everyone arrives for roll call. “We got eight. No ones missing.” Genghis blurts out.
“I sensed no more Cylons.” Chaosraven says lightly still not wanting to draw attention to himself.
Kraegor walks over to Chaosraven and raises his fist then extends his hand with palms open in friendship, “Sorry I mistrusted you.” Chaosraven takes his hand. “It’s OK, we’ve been through a lot these past few days.”
About that time pr0ner walks through the door, “What did I miss?” The crew turns and looks at him and Austin says, “Who the hell are you?”

[Kraegor]

well I didn't call the roles

[Lassr]

Game over.

Humans and one Cylon wins.

[Kraegor]

Autopsy of Scoop20906

2 hours later everyone hurried back to the dining hall to get the results of the autopsy. There was an excitement in the air. Could this be over finally. RevHempus71 grabbed the envelope off the table. He looked up at the room and saw all eyes were on him. With a deep sigh he opens the envelope. “Autopsy results found a microchip implanted in the brain. Scoop20906 was a Cylon.”
The room erupted in a cheer. The hugs and handshakes were interrupted by stessier, “We aren’t safe yet.”
“Yeah, we need to fry this toaster sitting right here to be safe.” Yelled kraegor.
“No! No, that’s not what I meant.” Implored stessier. “I feel we can trust Chaosraven but we have to be sure there are no more.”
“He’s right. Let’s get this mess cleaned up. It’s still early, let’s go back to talking about our Cylon strategy andthen turn in for the night. We’ve still got 6 hours.” Genghis then turns and picks up a mop.

6 hours later everyone turns in for the night.

0700

Everyone arrives for roll call. “We got eight. No ones missing.” Genghis blurts out.
“I sensed no more Cylons.” Chaosraven says lightly still not wanting to draw attention to himself.
Kraegor walks over to Chaosraven and raises his fist then extends his hand with palms open in friendship, “Sorry I mistrusted you.” Chaosraven takes his hand. “It’s OK, we’ve been through a lot these past few days.”
About that time pr0ner walks through the door, “What did I miss?” The crew turns and looks at him and Austin says, “Who the hell are you?”

rofl. well talk about bein wrong....

and yeah I STILL don't trust chaos

[Lassr]

tru1cy --------- Doctor
Genghis --------- Doctor
Grundbegriff --------- Doctor
pr0ner --------- Citizen
malchior --------- Citizen
RevHempus71 --------- Citizen
Newcastle --------- Citizen
Austin --------- Baltar
Chaosraven --------- Athena
stessier --------- Helo
Remus --------- Apollo
kraegor --------- Starbuck
Scoop20906 --------- Six
Unagi --------- #12
triggercut --------- Brother Cavil

[Kraegor]

sure glad ya'll know how to listen. Did I or did I not say scoop was not cylon?

ya'll couldnt wait to talk out a vote in which I told you at least 4 times that following chaos' advice would lead to a village loss??????????

The Emperor: Everything that has transpired has done so according to my design.

[Lassr]

http://toasters.freeforums.org

toaster forum should be unlocked for all to view.

[Lassr]

I know, I was doing a pre-skim and the colors jumped out at me is all.

SO, she is hot, huh??

She's dead.

Actually she's not but I thought I'd make you sweat it a bit. gots to be careful with mom jokes when you don't know the people on the other side. No she isn't hot.

I deserved that. Thanks.

Sorry. Was just half goofing off. a bit harsh I guess. Want to hug it out?

Maybe just a little one.

Did Baltar just find Six or what?

Ick.

the sequence of quotes that had be laughing but could not comment on at the time.
a big to the cylons.

[Kraegor]

tru1cy --------- Doctor
Genghis --------- Doctor
Grundbegriff --------- Doctor
pr0ner --------- Citizen
malchior --------- Citizen
RevHempus71 --------- Citizen
Newcastle --------- Citizen
Austin --------- Baltar
Chaosraven --------- Athena
stessier --------- Helo
Remus --------- Apollo
kraegor --------- Starbuck
Scoop20906 --------- Six
Unagi --------- #12
triggercut --------- Brother Cavil

why claim doctor and then have triggercut prove it a lie? makes no sense when yer in direct contact...it guarantees you both get lynched.

I understand Unagi's ploy tho I would expect him to expose no cylons as chaos obviously was holding a cylon hit under his sleeve.

a weak feint that drew the safety and the linebacker....

[Lassr]

The Story of Battlestar Galactica II.
All forum and behind the scenes write ups:

Six scans Grunbegriff Night One

For the past few weeks you have sensed a strange presence in your brain. As if some human has been reaching out for you, lusting for you. You can never seem to get a sense of who it is.

You sit down at your study and concentrate on Grundbegriff, a human you met yesterday. But you sense nothing.

Grundbegriff is not Baltar.

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Athena scans Austin Night One

You were sent to help destroy the humans but a strange thing happened as you lived amongst them. Love, a strange feeling for a cylon, but you have come to love them. They are not like what the Gods preached. They did not deserve to be eradicated. You must help them.

You sit down in your room and begin to concentrate on an individual to see if you could establish a link with the chip in the other cylons brains.

“Austin, that's his name, I met him yesterday”

You concentrate on Austin.

You could establish no link with him.

Austin is human.

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Starbuck protects herself

Your combat senses have been tingling ever sense you arrive onboard the Intersun. You have no idea why, you are amongst friends and fellow ship mates, most you’ve known for years. But you’ve been rigorously training for years and you know not to ignore that feeling. You strap on your side arm and sit upall night reading your book “Quit Your Job and Earn a Living Playing Triad.”

It seemed to be a quiet night.


Cylons Kill Grunbegriff Night One

As you were about to turn in for the night you hear a knocking at the door.
You put your pants back on and answer the knock.

“Hey, what’cha need?”

“Hey Grundbegriff. Oh nothing. I just saw you toting in that huge box when we arrived and I was curious what you had.”

You are delighted that someone is interested in your work.

“I have been working on this since we learned about the Cylon hybrids and when Adama put the team together I knew it would be the perfect opportunity to work on it.”

You remove the sheet from the work table to expose a range of electronic boards, wires and pieces of sheet metal.

“I’m trying to build a box that will house some instruments that can scan for EMF radiation and even scan for signals across the EM spectrum. It may help in detecting a Cylon Hybrid.”

“Interesting.”

“Be careful. The edges of that sheet metal are sharp. I’ve already cut…”

Before you could finish your sentence, you see a flash as the sheet metal slices into the top of your skull.

You have been killed.

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Baltar Scan triggercut

The dreams you’ve been having each night are driving you crazy. You are having sex with a beautiful woman but you can’t see her face. You sense that she is real, the images in your head seem real. You are even daydreaming about her now and the bulge in your pants as you walk around is quite embarrassing.

“Am I going crazy? It just feels like she’s trying to talk to me and I just can’t…”

Your mind drifts away as her breasts cloud your thoughts.

You sit down at your desk and start concentrating on every beautiful woman you’ve seen lately starting with triggercut. But after 15 minutes you get nothing.

Triggercut is not Six.

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The crew awakes the next morning and heads to the cafeteria for the 0700 role call.

They gather around the food bar, mingle and talk before heading to their seats. The team lead speaks up, “Let’s get this started. We need to go over the days agenda and…”
He is interrupted by Austin. “Sir, Grundbegriff’s not here yet.”

“He’s probably been up all night working on that damn gizmo of his.” Austin, go get him.
“Yes sir.”

A few minutes later Austin storms into the meeting. “Sir, come quickly!”

Everyone gets up and makes there way quickly to Grundbegriff’s quarters. When they arrive they find Grundbegriff laying across his bed with a piece of sheet metal wedged into his skull.

Grundbegriff has been slain.

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Day 1

Newcastle is terminated.

The day went by quickly. They discussed possible motives for killing Grundbegriff, accusations flew about everyone’s whereabouts, and every statement someone made was twisted and analyzed at every angle. They then took a break, talked about the latest gossip, who was doing who, best recipes for the upcoming Founder’s Day Dinner, a game of Triad broke out. They made out a grocery list since it looked like they were going to be here longer than they had expected then at the end of the day they got back to the task at hand. Who are the Cylons?

Finger pointing led to more finger pointing which led to even more finger pointing but at the end of the day, malchior pointed the last finger and it was loaded. Malchior stepped up to Newcastle raised his sidearm, “I’m tired, I want to play some more Triad before bedtime, so I’m vote #8.” And he pulls the trigger. The projectile enters Newcastles chest killing him instantly. “Ok, Triad in 5 minutes, who’s in?”

“Wait! This isn’t over! I have been informed by Adama that 3 of you were secretly trained to identify cylons. I know your identity must remain a secret for protection.
Everyone must retire to their rooms while one of the doctors does the autopsy. We will meet back here at 2100.”

Everyone shuffles off to their room, and Malchior could be overheard mumbling “Just want to play some fracking cards, but noooo, <mumbe> cylons have to ruin <mumbe>. Just blow everyone out the airlock <mumble> over with. <mumble>”

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++++++++++++ <Accelerate Time>
Newcastle Autopsy Report – Time: 2100

Everyone gathers in the dining hall and sits in their seats. Two chairs are noticeably empty now. An envelope is sitting on the podium at the front of the room. Malchior gets up, walks to the front and grabs the envelope. With a heavy sigh he rips it open and reads out loud, “Autopsy results show…human. Frack!”

It is Night.

All specials send me your requests.


Six scans Remus West Night 2

You feel that if you could ever make contact with this human that you have been sensing that he could be a big help to your cause. Remus West made a lot of eye contact with you today. Could it be him? You sit down and concentrate on Remus West but after several minutes pass by you realize it’s not him. Remus West is not Baltar.



Starbuck protects tru1cy

Nothing happened to you last night. Maybe you aren’t a high profile target right now. You decide to take a big chance. Once everyone turns in for the night you sneak out of your room with your sidearm. You take up station in an alcove near tru1cy’s room and wait. The night passes and dawn nears. He never left his room and no one has approached. You head back to room quickly to catch a short nap before role call.



Cylons kill Remus West.

You walk down the hallway chatting with Remus West about the day’s events.
“So what do you think that thing is Grundbegriff was building?” you ask.
“It looked like an EMF detec…” before he could finish his sentence you plunge a screwdriver you had took from Grundbegriff’s room into the top of his head.





Apollo scans Grundbegriff

After everyone heads to bed you sit down at your desk in your room and wonder why the Cylons killed Grundbegriff? You make a decision to do a little detective work at nights to see if you can find any clues. A little after midnight you slip out of your room and head toward Grundbegriff’s old room. You enter your code to override the lock and enter.

You look over the gadget he was working on, you look at his notes, and determine he was probably trying to build some kind of EMF detector. That could be a good reason to kill him if you were Cylon. As you are reading his notes someone else walks into the room.

“What are you doing out of your room!?” you command.
“I could ask the same of you.”
“Well, I’m investigating Grundbegriff’s murder.”
“Me too! Let’s go compare notes.”
You want to mention that you were not finished yet but decide it best to go with your crewmate and finish this task later.
As you walk the hall your buddy asks, “So what do you think that thing is Grundbegriff was building?”
“It looked like an EMF detec…” before you could finish your sentence you feel a quick pain in your head then nothing…

You are dead! Enjoy the popcorn.

Cavil scans Grundbegriff

After killing Grundbegriff you didn’t have time to search his room for fear of getting caught. You sneak out after everyone goes to there room for the night. You override the lock on the door and enter his room. On the table next to the EMF detector he was working on is a bag and several instrument laying on the table. They are medical instruments. There is also a log book with information on microchips and Cylon brains. Grundbegriff was a doctor.

Athena scans triggercut

You thought triggercut seemed odd since day 1. That didn’t really mean anything, a lot of the guys here are odd. Remus and Unagi’s antics disgust you, so unnatural. But triggercut just didn’t seem right.

You sit down, close your eyes and concentrate on triggercut. After only a minute you get a link. You see a Baseship. You see duplicates of yourself walking around and you see many duplicates of triggercut. The link is suddenly broken, but you got your answer. Triggercut is a Cylon.


Baltar scans Malchior

The demon in your pants is getting restless. As soon as it was time for everyone to turn in for the night you immediately start trying to find your fantasy lover. “I know she is real! Malchior, now I’d hit that.” You relax, loosen your pants and free willy, then concentrate on Malchior but after a while nothing happens. You put willy away and turn in for the night. Malchior is NOT Six.

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Stessier and Scoop20906 meet up in the hall on their way to role call. As they chat about the previous days events they notice a hand sticking out of the ventilation shaft ahead. They grab a nearby box and rush over to the opening. Stessier stands on the box and looks in.

“Oh Lords of Cobol, it’s Remus West. He’s dead. He has a screwdriver embedded in his skull.”

Scoop20906 runs to the dining hall and informs everyone of their discovery.


Helo shoots Triggercut

Chaosraven steps forward and admits to being a Cylon but a Cylon that is here to help the human race and to prove his point he names another Cylon for termination, triggercut. Unagi then steps forward and does the same but he offers up Scoop20906. The confusion caused turmoil for what seemed like days although it had only been 6 hours.
Kraegor blurts out, “Kill’em both! They’re fracking toasters!”
“No, no! If one is truly here to help we must determine which is which. I, uh, I’ve heard that if a Cylon…uh well, is sexually aroused that their spine will light up.” Austin embarrassingly stammers.
“Oh, you got to be fracking kidding! You want use to frack a toaster to see if they light up!” Kraegor crosses he arms, “Mom always warned me about putting body parts in appliances.”
Ausitn speaks up again, “Look, let’s just put them in a room and some of us try to seduce them and see what happens.”
“Oh Frack this!” stessier steps forward, pulls a sidearm from inside his uniform and blows a hole in triggercuts chest. “I’ll be no part of Austin’s little perverted scheme and it end getting broadcast across the fleet wide web.”
Everyone stands there in silence, shocked at the turn of events.
“Stessier! Where did you get hat sidearm!” Scoop20906 blurts out, “All weapons were collected the night of the first murder.”
“I have my own stash for just such emergencies.”
pr0ner steps forward, “What’s done is done, let’s let the docs look at him and determine if he’s Cylon. For your sake stessier, I hope he was.”
Whispers can be heard as they walk to their rooms, “Who was that? He said his name was pr0ner. I don’t remember him being on board.”

Autopsy Exam of triggercut

2 hours later the crew meets back in the dining hall. Once everyone is seated, Stessier walks to the table and picks up the envelope. “Wait, where is b0ner?”
“Uh, I think it was pr0ner. I don’t know but we can’t wait on him. What does it say stessier?”
“Stessier opens the envelope, reads and breaths huge sigh of relief. Triggercut was Cylon.

Crew must terminate one player before night.
Majority is now 6.

Unagi is terminated.

Once triggercut was revealed as a Cylon the voting went quickly for the next termination. Unagi’s number was up. Scoop20906 cast vote #6 and happily took the sidearm on the table and pointed it at Unagi. “Wait.” Cried Malchior, “let me do it!” as he arrived late for the termination vote. Scoop20906 reluctantly gave the sidearm to Malchior and stepped aside. Malchior raised the pistol but before he could pull the trigger Unagi spoke, “You arrived just in time.”
Machior stared at Unagi with a puzzled look on his face and then there was a blinding flash…
Unagi exploded, Malchior was torn to bits, and the crew was pelted with bits and pieces of flesh, organs, and blood.
“Oh, Sweet Lords of Cobol!” someone screamed.
“Guess no autopsy is needed for this mess.”
“Everyone turn in and get cleaned up. We’ll meet back here tomorrow morning. 0700.”

It is night.
All specials send me your orders.

Six scans kraegor Night 3.

Your partner is dead. A cylon you didn’t know existed until he exploded and took Malchior with him is also dead. You feel very lonely. You sit down to seek out the human presence that has lurked in your mind for 3 nights now. kraegor, kraegor, kraegor are you trying to contact me. Nothing. kraegor is not Baltar.


Starbuck protects herself.
The day was very confusing. You feel you must protect someone from any remaining Cylons. Chaosraven seems to have helped the village but states that he is a Cylon also. You could never trust a Cylon, so you sit in your room with your trusty sidearm until morning. At 0200 you hear a noise outside your door. You draw your firearm and investigate. You sweep the surrounding area but find nothing. You go back inside and remain alert until time for the morning meeting.


Athena scans Scoop20906

A Cylon that explodes. A Cylon that explodes. There has never been anything in the databases about a Cylon that can self destruct. Was Unagi really a Cylon?You put aside the baffling puzzle and concentrate on finding anymore Cylons hidden amongst the crew. Unagi said scoop20906 was Cylon. Was it a trick, what was happening? You concentrate on Scoop20906 and immediately you images of Cylon raiders blasting a city on Caprica materializes in your brain. You see Scoop20906 leaving a City Government building with briefcase in hand and you see him meet up with triggercut…Scoop20906 is a Cylon.


Cylons target kraegor

You are alone now. The humans must pay for the killing of triggercut. Your rage is targeted toward kraegor. You silently approach his door but trip over a crate sitting in the hallway. A door opens and someone enters the hallway. You cannot see who it is but you see the silhouette of the sidearm that is drawn and ready. You decide it is best to call off the kill and try again later. Your plans have failed.




Baltar scans Chaosraven

All the bloodshed should have turned you off for the night. You just want to sleep but you still feel her longing for you, but you are not sure you are longing for her anymore. You don’t want to end up like the others that have been terminated. You take care of your needs in the shower and sit down to relax. But your mind starts going to Chaosraven, a Cylon and not bad looking. “Hmmm, OK, what the hell.” You say to yourself. ”Chaosraven are you my goddess?” After several minutes, nothing happens. You sigh with relief. Chaosraven is not Six.


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The crew filters in slowly this morning. The past few days really have rattled their nerves. Sleep was rare. They mingle and talk and try to figure out who was missing. Everyone seemed to be here. “Nine! Is that right. Everyone be still! One, two, three, four, five , six, seven, eight, nine. I don’t believe it, we are all here. We got’em!”
“I don’t mean to rain on your parade but I still sense we have another amongst us.” Chaosraven states.
“Of course we do, it’s you! You fracking toaster.! You’ll get your turn today.”
“No, I think there is another.” Chaosraven sits down and puts his head in his hands knowing it was going to be a difficult day.
Genghis steps up, “Look I don’t know if we can trust this toaster or not but let’s make a decision. I heard noises last night and I don’t know what was going on but Chaosraven or someone needs to be terminated today.”
“Yeah, I heard noises too.” kraegor says, “Let’s get to work.”

Scoop20906 is terminated

Chaosraven didn’t have much to worry about after all. The crew voted quickly and were all lined up to be the one to terminate Scoop20906. A raffle had to be held since they were fighting over the sidearm. RevHempus71 won and kraegor won the side bet on who would win the raffle.

RevHempus71 took the sidearm. “You’ve always laughed at my rather small number compared to yours, well who’s laughing now you fracking toaster!” RevHempus pulls the trigger and puts a bullet through the throat of Scoop20906. Blood sprays the crew.
“Dammit Rev! Why did you shoot him in the throat! We just got this place clean up from the Unagi mess! Frack me!” tru1cy screams. “That’s two uniforms wasted.” Mumbles kraegor.
“Ok, get that corpse to the autopsy room as soon as he stops spraying blood. Dude, you must have severed the carotid artery.”
“Everyone to their rooms.”

Autopsy of Scoop20906

2 hours later everyone hurried back to the dining hall to get the results of the autopsy. There was an excitement in the air. Could this be over finally. RevHempus71 grabbed the envelope off the table. He looked up at the room and saw all eyes were on him. With a deep sigh he opens the envelope. “Autopsy results found a microchip implanted in the brain. Scoop20906 was a Cylon.”
The room erupted in a cheer. The hugs and handshakes were interrupted by stessier, “We aren’t safe yet.”
“Yeah, we need to fry this toaster sitting right here to be safe.” Yelled kraegor.
“No! No, that’s not what I meant.” Implored stessier. “I feel we can trust Chaosraven but we have to be sure there are no more.”
“He’s right. Let’s get this mess cleaned up. It’s still early, let’s go back to talking about our Cylon strategy andthen turn in for the night. We’ve still got 6 hours.” Genghis then turns and picks up a mop.

6 hours later everyone turns in for the night.

0700

Everyone arrives for roll call. “We got eight. No ones missing.” Genghis blurts out.
“I sensed no more Cylons.” Chaosraven says lightly still not wanting to draw attention to himself.
Kraegor walks over to Chaosraven and raises his fist then extends his hand with palms open in friendship, “Sorry I mistrusted you.” Chaosraven takes his hand. “It’s OK, we’ve been through a lot these past few days.”
About that time someone pr0ner walks through the door, “What did I miss?” The crew turns and looks at him and Austin says, “Who the hell are you?”

[Scoop20906]

Austin --------- Baltar

DAMMIT!! DAMMIT!! DAMMIT!! DAMMIT!! DAMMIT!! DAMMIT!!

[Chaosraven]

Wow... that was a Dangerous Play for Unagi... did he KNOW Scoop was Six?

Trying to remember when I was #12 if I knew which was which.

And for those who don't trust me, I understand. When trying to explain how the Game works to a buddy of mine, explaining the Possibilities described by everyone in this thread about the Unagi/Chaosraven Athena and what Potential Outcomes could result based on all the Options, one by one, he squinted his eyes with a wry little smile and stated firmly "then you're the Bad Guy... I *KNOW* you"



I did indeed hold back my Bad Guy scan for the exact reason I stated.
If a Cylon wished to contest me he would need to do it immediately.
If it was #12 the only question was would he offer a human to kill 2 that day, or a Cylon to keep up appearances for a while.
But I figured it would be Brother Cavil as Bait.

I also did not wish to disclose which one it was so that they would have to decide amongst themselves (#12 all by his lonesome, or the Pair) what they would do, as they did not have my information to work off of.
I had a 2 in 3 chance of the one I did not Scan coming out.
It paid off.

Better than I thought, as surviving the Night verifying Scoop finished it off.

My Scans:

1. Austin
2. triggercut
3. Scoop

[Scoop20906]

I know, I was doing a pre-skim and the colors jumped out at me is all.

SO, she is hot, huh??

She's dead.

Actually she's not but I thought I'd make you sweat it a bit. gots to be careful with mom jokes when you don't know the people on the other side. No she isn't hot.

I deserved that. Thanks.

Sorry. Was just half goofing off. a bit harsh I guess. Want to hug it out?

Maybe just a little one.

Did Baltar just find Six or what?

Ick.

the sequence of quotes that had be laughing but could not comment on at the time.
a big to the cylons.

Nice forshadowing. Too bad we were both to dense to see it.

[Scoop20906]

tru1cy --------- Doctor
Genghis --------- Doctor
Grundbegriff --------- Doctor
pr0ner --------- Citizen
malchior --------- Citizen
RevHempus71 --------- Citizen
Newcastle --------- Citizen
Austin --------- Baltar
Chaosraven --------- Athena
stessier --------- Helo
Remus --------- Apollo
kraegor --------- Starbuck
Scoop20906 --------- Six
Unagi --------- #12
triggercut --------- Brother Cavil

why claim doctor and then have triggercut prove it a lie? makes no sense when yer in direct contact...it guarantees you both get lynched.

I understand Unagi's ploy tho I would expect him to expose no cylons as chaos obviously was holding a cylon hit under his sleeve.

a weak feint that drew the safety and the linebacker....

Trig and I didn't really have a firm strategy at that point. Once Kraegor had us, we kind of figured what was the point. At that point, my only goal was to cause as much confusion as possible and to get Chaos killed. It almost worked.

[Scoop20906]

CONGRATS TO ALL THE GOOD GUYS ON THE WIN! This game was alot of fun and Lassr did a great job!!

[Chaosraven]

a weak feint that drew the safety and the linebacker....

Trig and I didn't really have a firm strategy at that point. Once Kraegor had us, we kind of figured what was the point. At that point, my only goal was to cause as much confusion as possible and to get Chaos killed. It almost worked.

I was almost killed that Day.

[Lassr]

I'm disappointed I didn't get to use my Six and Baltar hook up hint.
If they did hook up a page from Baltar's journal would have been discovered in the hallway.

Here it is:

[Scoop20906]

a weak feint that drew the safety and the linebacker....

Trig and I didn't really have a firm strategy at that point. Once Kraegor had us, we kind of figured what was the point. At that point, my only goal was to cause as much confusion as possible and to get Chaos killed. It almost worked.

I was almost killed that Day.

Chaos, I was gunning for you hard. I have no idea what I was thinking when I claimed doctor.

I made a lot of dumb mistakes and panicked too much when people were going after me.

Watch out, folks. Next time I am evil, it won't be so easy. All of this is being filed away.

[Lassr]

CONGRATS TO ALL THE GOOD GUYS ON THE WIN! This game was alot of fun and Lassr did a great job!!

I like to set high standards.

Odd thing about my 2 BSG games, it feels like the Cylons should have an advantage but both games have ended quickly with human victories.

Chaos scan of triggercut did'em in this time.
Last game, Grund got a cylon 1st day and then Athena scanned a cylon night 3 I think so it went quick also.

Six-Baltar
1st game, all scan were done simultaneously so Six had to scan a crew member and the cylons had to target a crew member at the same time.
This time I had the Cylons scan for Baltar first before targeting a crew member. Not sure which is better.

[Unagi]

tru1cy --------- Doctor
Genghis --------- Doctor
Grundbegriff --------- Doctor
pr0ner --------- Citizen
malchior --------- Citizen
RevHempus71 --------- Citizen
Newcastle --------- Citizen
Austin --------- Baltar
Chaosraven --------- Athena
stessier --------- Helo
Remus --------- Apollo
kraegor --------- Starbuck
Scoop20906 --------- Six
Unagi --------- #12
triggercut --------- Brother Cavil

why claim doctor and then have triggercut prove it a lie? makes no sense when yer in direct contact...it guarantees you both get lynched.

I understand Unagi's ploy tho I would expect him to expose no cylons as chaos obviously was holding a cylon hit under his sleeve.

a weak feint that drew the safety and the linebacker....

I do agree - when they claimed Dr. and then the other basicalyl countered - I could find a way to work with it.... Although I think I know why they did this - I think they may have thought Chaos was 12 at this point.

[Kraegor]

heh yeah I was playing baltar at the end...on the off chance chaos WAS good, I needed to get focus off of Austin while still keeping Austin in view...


I WAS going to protect Remus BUT Remus' byplay with triggercut changed my mind.

From: Kraegor
To: Lassr
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 11:52 am
Subject: BSG: Night 2
so I can protect Remus....be wrong and never hear the end of it.... could cover scoop.... there's the chance tru1cy is actually a doc....

Killed Grund night 1...thus targeting high profile...

Chaos is acting like a bad guy and thus not viable...either he's evil, helo, or has no powers....

/sigh. I'll go with the Scoop Gambit, since if Remus is a good guy, he's the next likely high profile target. The number of random wagons would lend confidence to the belief that cylons won't feel a need to keep Remus around for a lynch.

I hate this game...why'd YOU do this to me!!!


<back from reading>

ok...so this post means Remus gets to dangle as bait

Remus wrote:

triggercut wrote:
So now this question occurs to me: will the Cylons necessarily contact Twelve on purpose if they figure out who he is?
I wouldn't. Sure they get to link up with him and share his thoughts but they also lose a night kill to do it. The night kill is much more important.


gee if that doesn't make Remus and trigger look guilty as hell....and giving out an explicit Cylon tactical order....

Protect tru1cy

guess tru1cy gets major kudos if his doc claim was bullshit and I bought it w/o even grilling him first....hinges on Austin being evil....

Protect tru1cy

geez what a mess....as USUAL no one listens!!

look at this...blood in my hair...on my nice clean shirt....do you know how long it will take to get these stains out? do you!?!?

/sigh. Going Self protect.

I'm gambling they think malchior was starbuck and that I'm right about chaos/austin....otherwise this protect me is useless, they kill pr0ner and 2 nights in a row my first instinct was right and I ignored it...

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malchior was an interesting choice...going for the starbuck kill....swing and a miss!! hehe.

so who's likely to die...

The quandary is now...Do they think they got starbuck? do they think I'm the next likely, starbuck? Will they presume self-protect? Does this blood make me look like a sexy amazonian?

I'm only worth killing if I'm right about chaos/austin. chaos = 6. austin = baltar. this fits as cavil=trig is expendable. conversely scoop could be cavil in which case trig was 6. but Unagi never once pushed to protect trig. Unagi was comfortable with trig dying...so I don't buy trig as 6.

If I'm wrong they skip me since I'm useful for confusion. which means, revhempus/pr0ner/scoop is 6.

perhaps I've overdone the paranoia...but I'm still set on chaos/austin.

so I'll follow the instinct that they want everything to go according to the aforementioned plan.

so back to who is the target? geez...if I'm wrong about chaos/austin...they would not bother to attack me....

Killing malchior is a low profile kill....it's possible pr0ner is next....

if chaos is good you leave him alive as I am providing deflection...

stessier is a meaningless kill as ya have 2 docs alive who provide more value...

scoop is up for lynch even if ya suspect him as starbuck ya cant kill him at night as that narrows suspicion matrix. would be funny as hell if scoop is baltar...unagi would made a major tactical error on that one, eh, lack of communication...lack of communication...

so more viable targets are pr0ner, me, revhempus.


if they think I'm starbuck they'll expect self protect...so I protect one of the other 2....except...I'm a believable baltar....which means 6 scans me...we hook up for lesbian sex....oh wait no i die then...damn....
would they expect me to gamble and not protect myself?

tired of reading yet? now ya know why I put the order up top

[Unagi]

Kraegor, I totally thought you were Baltar.

I'm just cracking up that it was Austin. Sheesh.

[Unagi]

What the hell was Unagi thinking?


The bottom line is that I gambled with who Chaos would have scanned and wanted to be the first to claim it. That was foolish.

I actually had thought that Lassr's DAY 2 opener was the hint we were waiting for that SIX found BALTAR, but that everyone was glossing over it... Ahh SWEET! was my first thought when I read it. I wrestled with the meaning of that post, but didn't conclude if it was or wasn't a hint - simply that it could have been the hint. (not mentioning any names on the DAY1 Opener, but mentioning names on DAY2 was what I thought might be the hint.) I also felt that would have been way to direct a hint, but the fact that no-one even commented on it, made me wonder. But - really more to my desicion was that I thought that Scoop's play was FAR more suspicious (more posts and more slips) than Triggercut's play, and as such - thought if Chaos had a cylon, it was very likely to be Scoop.

Still - I should have just stayed neutral. I kicked myself about 10 seconds after I hit 'SUBMIT'. Why? Why even post?


After I came out and Chaos revealed that he had me totally nailed - I was pretty sure the Cylon's only chance now was for SIX to find BALTAR and for BALTAR to carry on. My goal was to make it look like perhaps I was setting up Scoop to be lynched and he could ride that for at least Day 2.

I honestly had an insane week, weekend, and then this new week at work (we are changing our Customer Relationship Managment system over these two weeks and I'm the go-to-guy for all the code, etc.) That being said - if I had all the time in the world to post - I don't think I would have had anything to add. Choas (and others) was coming up with all the scenarios, and I wanted to create the illusion that he was trying to direct the game.

I fully apologize to Scoop and triggercut for this screw-up of mine. It was painful to watch it all explode in slow motion like that. I think my hidden ATHENA message was also burning a whole in my pocket, but I had considered just letting is lay there - and in hind-sight that was absolutely what I should have done.

Funny Notes On Unagi's Desk:
actually I have a few, but I wanted to share this one:
Earlier in the game I wrote:
"Malchior - thinks outside the box, he should live."
then later I wrote:
"Malchior - He must die."

My goal - after I screwed up the whole game, was to have Scoop live, and me be lynched. Which was remarkable mainly because with very very little nudging - that is exactly what happened. Scoop NEEDED to find Baltar, that was our only chance.

Grrr... I am so pissed at myself for my Friday morning post. I had a huge day ahead of me at work and for some absurd reason this made me think I needed to act quickly on that. Why oh WHY!?

Next time, I wait. Why the hell did I chime in at all in the morning. I could have disappeared for 3 days and came back with a story that I had met pr0ner at a bar by chance and we decided to go to Zanadu for the weekend. Damn it.

[Remus West]

I would like to thank all of you for NEVER actually trying to figure out what special I was. I thought I had made it pretty clear that I was in charge...the guy with the highest rank...Apollo. Obviously made it clear enough to Triggercut and Scoop . I was actually going to out myself day 1 but you all lynched Newcastle so quickly that it was night by the time I logged on that day and I figured it was to late. When triggercut almost pulled off the "I am Apollo" thing I wanted to scream. Then folks managed to mention "Hey, what was Remus?" but you never went and looked or even discussed it. First time I drop hints and everyone ignores them.

[Kraegor]

a weak feint that drew the safety and the linebacker....

Trig and I didn't really have a firm strategy at that point. Once Kraegor had us, we kind of figured what was the point. At that point, my only goal was to cause as much confusion as possible and to get Chaos killed. It almost worked.

I was almost killed that Day.

Chaos, I was gunning for you hard. I have no idea what I was thinking when I claimed doctor.

I made a lot of dumb mistakes and panicked too much when people were going after me.

Watch out, folks. Next time I am evil, it won't be so easy. All of this is being filed away.

heh it's the first lesson we all learn -- > Settle down!

course I actually go the opposite direction, but I have fun going ballistic

funny you had "playing cool" down when you've had no powers. Just gotta remember that mind set when you do have powers.

[Chaosraven]

Six-Baltar
1st game, all scan were done simultaneously so Six had to scan a crew member and the cylons had to target a crew member at the same time.
This time I had the Cylons scan for Baltar first before targeting a crew member. Not sure which is better.

This means that if the Cylons take the Slow and Steady approach (is it Baltar? No? Then we can kill him) they are ASSURED they will not accidentally kill Baltar. And after they HAVE found him, they can kill whoever else, since Baltar is now "safe". I believe this to be pretty good, since the Good Guys can ALSO assume that (deadguy) was NOT Baltar.

Making Athena "blind" so she does not know which is which becomes Nerve-Wracking.

Keeping #12 out of the Loop unless the Cylons miss a Kill by meeting up with him is perhaps the Balance to that.

[Scoop20906]

Kraegor's little silliness at the end caused me to scan him. Then I figured it would cause more confusion if kraegor was gone since he was the most vocal after myself again Chaos so I tried to kill Kraegor. At that point. GAME OVER!

Still, in hindsight, I should have thrown a hail mary and scanned Austin since it was one of the simi-trusted humans.

I guess I out thought myself. The scan was between Austin, Rev, and Kragor.

[Kraegor]

well Unagi, playing it cool after the fact sold ME that chaos was evil. but it also sold me that you were working WITH chaos because of the symmetry.

I only think your mistake was giving up Scoop. shouldn't have brought attention to him.

[Chaosraven]

Kraegor, I totally thought you were Baltar.

I'm just cracking up that it was Austin. Sheesh.

Did you know which was which? IIRC last BSG Game *I* was #12 and I can't remember if I did.

[Remus West]

BTW, why did people back off of Scoop after his slip that screamed "I am 6" during the first day?

[Unagi]

I would like to thank all of you for NEVER actually trying to figure out what special I was. I thought I had made it pretty clear that I was in charge...the guy with the highest rank...Apollo. Obviously made it clear enough to Triggercut and Scoop . I was actually going to out myself day 1 but you all lynched Newcastle so quickly that it was night by the time I logged on that day and I figured it was to late. When triggercut almost pulled off the "I am Apollo" thing I wanted to scream. Then folks managed to mention "Hey, what was Remus?" but you never went and looked or even discussed it. First time I drop hints and everyone ignores them.

I knew who ya were.

[Chaosraven]

Oh yeah, and Remus died, but nobody spoke out that I would be the guy who did it. Yippee!!

Now I absolutely have a Free Pass the next time I slaughter him at Night

Why I chose my Scans:
(1) Austin - primarily because I always Scan Remus. With no way to prove myself I needed to deviate. And I have played with Austin as Bad Guys before.

(2) triggercut - because due to a few posts I had marked him Off as Not Bad Guy. And he seemed to be the one who "trusted" me the most. So I went with the combination of "these are meant to throw people off the same way my Athena Rules Oopsie and not pointing the finger at the Village Idiot"

(3) Scoop - I thought I was going to die. So I figured what the hell, if I live I can give them another Human Doctor or the Last Bad Guy if Unagi was planning to duke it out. But I was hoping that the Bad Guy who contested me would offer a Cylon.

[triggercut]

First off, Chaos' scan of me didn't win the game for the Humans. Neither did Chaos's so-called "cunning plan", which he oversold so badly that he ended up looking guilty as sin.

When day 2 dawned and Chaos kept prattling on about everyone coming out, I knew I was scanned and that he was Athena. I tried to get Scoop to avoid me and treat me antagonistically. That would've reduced the damage, and I didn't think Scoop was even on Chaos's scan radar. I figured Chaos would've gone after Austin next, and probably Kraegor after that.

So I figured that I'd buy the farm, but if Scoop was antagonistic enough towards me, maybe Twelve (who we'd already figured was Unagi) would see it and realize that we'd made the call to throw me under the bus and join in. Then Scoop could continue to look for Baltar, and the Crew would have a chance.

Sadly, in the only posts made after I was outed by Chaos, Scoop didn't really buy into Chaos, and even sort of defended me. Just as he was starting to switch around, Unagi made his play....

....and outed himself and the last Cylon Scoop in the process. Ouch!!

At that point, the game was lost, I think. All three of us were sitting high on everyone's threat matrix. I was willing to take the medicine and die quietly....but then Chaos continued to talk about his own brilliance a little too much, monologue-ing like The Monarch Butterfly on a triple espresso; that tripped Sorceror Kraegor to full-on, and he went after Chaos, and I figured I'd stir the pot by trying to guess that Remus was Apollo.

Which he was. Only correct guess I made all game!

So that was fun, watching Chaos get worked up for a few pages and squirm, but then he righted himself and got back on target...and then stessier saved the whole game and put things aright by saying "the hell with it, I'm doing something" and shooting me. Which was the second-best play he could've made (best would've been shooting Unagi, but whatever, it worked well.)

With Scoop an Army of One, I hoped he'd scan for Baltar and then kill Athena/Chaos, since he had to know that Chaos would scan him that night...but for reasons I guess only he knows, he scanned for Baltar on Kraegor, and then tried to kill him. Kraegor was Starbuck self-protected, and Athena predictably outed Scoop and it ended.

Sorry Lassr. The Cylon team bumbled pretty badly with a rules set that should've been much more entertaining than we made it!

[triggercut]

BTW, why did people back off of Scoop after his slip that screamed "I am 6" during the first day?

I have no idea.

[stessier]

BTW, why did people back off of Scoop after his slip that screamed "I am 6" during the first day?

I have no idea.

I just went back and looked. He got up to 6 and then Austin changed his vote and the whole thing just fell apart. I guess that is amusing now, isn't it?

So I am still curious. Did I come out too early? Should Helo have waited until there was more discussion?

Things got so interesting when Chaos revealed and I just knew triggercut was 12 that I didn't want to wait. Even after waiting and thinking about it all weekend, even spelling out to Chaos that it made the most sense for Unagi to be 12, I still shot trig.

My biggest reason at the time was I thought everyone would lynch Chaos if Unagi was dead, but if trig died I thought there was a better chance of getting Unagi or Scoop. I really, really thought Scoop was 6, but the longer time players would post something and I would waffle just enough not to press the point.

Now time to dive into the Cylon forum. That should be fun.

Thanks for the great game Lassr and everyone. It was a blast!

[stessier]

I actually had thought that Lassr's DAY 2 opener was the hint we were waiting for that SIX found BALTAR, but that everyone was glossing over it... Ahh SWEET! was my first thought when I read it. I wrestled with the meaning of that post, but didn't conclude if it was or wasn't a hint - simply that it could have been the hint.

From what Lassr was planning, it looks like you can expect the hint to be...ahh...explicit when it is dropped.

[Remus West]

stessier, you will note if you go back and look that it was the Cylons telling you that you came out early.

So, no, you did not come out to early IMO.