Werewolf 101 Wednesday - Chaosrendered

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 3:47 pm

Scoop20906 wrote:Plus he poked me.

Why is it so important that you not get poked?

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 4:56 pm

Remus West wrote:
Scoop20906 wrote:Plus he poked me.
Why is it so important that you not get poked?

Nothing important about it. Just most of the time when I get poked I poke back.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 6:06 pm

Just back from a school trip to DC. Feet throbbing. Gotta dine, catch up on the thread, read a few PMs, and then I'll share some thoughts.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 8:52 pm

Kraegor wrote:2. Stessier - here's a muzzle, dont slobber

Moi? How rude.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 9:40 pm

Code: Select all

THE STAGNATING RUN ON MIPE:

  Scoop# acc mipe(1)
    RevHempus# acc mipe(2)
      Chaosraven acc mipe(3)
        mipe acc mipe(4)
      mipe wd mipe(3)
        Semaj acc mipe(4)
      Chaosraven wd mipe(3)
    Semaj wd mipe(2)

Code: Select all

THE RAPIDLY ESCALATING RUN ON REVHEMPUS71:

  stessier acc RevHempus#(1)
    mipe acc RevHempus#(2)
  mipe wd RevHempus#(1)
    Grundbegriff acc RevHempus#(2)
      Chaosraven acc RevHempus#(3)
        mipe acc RevHempus#(4)
          Remus West acc RevHempus#(5)
            Kraegor acc RevHempus#(6)

Not on the vote against mipe:
Grundbegriff, Kraegor, purge, Remus West, stessier

Not on the vote against RevHempus71:
purge, Scoop20906, Semaj

On neither the vote against mipe nor the vote against Rev:
purge

On both the vote against mipe and the vote against Rev:
Chaosraven, mipe

Semaj · Post by **Semaj** » Sat Oct 18, 2008 4:44 am

Chaosraven wrote:7. Semaj - 0

Semaj snores.

Comments?

You are full of... swear word here.

I posted saying I had to work from 3 est to 12ish and I would prolly hit the bars after work.

I just got home... ok... so you are saying I haven't posted this night once? Go look go check,.. 5 or 6 posts before yours I posted.

Stop manufacturing things, if I didn't do something (like someone calling me out on the mipe vote) I will admit to it....

making stuff up is nonsense. Look for a wolf elsewhere I am not one, nor would accusing me of being one help your cause, unless you are one.

THAT being said.

I disliked the mipe vote for 3 reasons.

1) He was an easy target, as I said in pm's to anyone who asked. He is a weaker player, and he seems bad every time. Voting for him is a safe bet.

2) everyone seemed to jump on at once. When we all whip into a vote, it's a bad thing. If we argue for a day or two before jumping on. We can get a better read.

3) it's mipe. He's due is a god awful reason and you know it. Sure day 1 is a crapshoot. But if our best evidence is less than bush had for invading foreign countries... perhaps we need to rethink.

He was a good choice, but I refuse to let anyone die until they have a chance to argue and fight for their lives. You all might think they need to go quietly, but I am not that guy. So yes I took my vote off, and didn't jump on the rev vote for the same reason. If you don't like it, vote for me tomorrow. I have no patience for people who play poorly and let someone die without a say so or a chance to come out. If you are a good guy and you jumped on the pile, shame on you.

That being said... We need to look at Kraegor and mipe tomorrow... Any arguments? I also am iffy on Chaos because he seems to be trying to cause doubt on everyone. I know it's not a tell tale sign, but it rubs me the wrong way.

Thats me... and I have to work another huge shift tomorrow... sorry if I dont spend all day here hoping... on a weekend... when I am usually the only one here...

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Sat Oct 18, 2008 8:30 am

Semaj wrote: If you don't like it, vote for me tomorrow.

That being said... We need to look at Kraegor and mipe tomorrow... Any arguments?

Why should we not vote for you today?

Or are we supposed to believe you have not noticed it is day time yet?

mipe · Post by **mipe** » Sat Oct 18, 2008 12:04 pm

If you want to lynch an innocent villager, you can lynch me. Avoiding the death of the first day is enough to me.

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 9:40 am

stessier wrote:
Semaj wrote: If you don't like it, vote for me tomorrow.

That being said... We need to look at Kraegor and mipe tomorrow... Any arguments?
Why should we not vote for you today?

Or are we supposed to believe you have not noticed it is day time yet?

I'm guessing he's drunk. His particular vehemence to my simple statistics (especially since he apparently didn't even read what they were...) does not speak well.

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 9:41 am

Grundbegriff wrote:Just back from a school trip to DC. Feet throbbing. Gotta dine, catch up on the thread, read a few PMs, and then I'll share some thoughts.

Two days later and all we have is the vote analysis?

Semaj · Post by **Semaj** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 1:30 pm

stessier wrote:
Semaj wrote: If you don't like it, vote for me tomorrow.

That being said... We need to look at Kraegor and mipe tomorrow... Any arguments?
Why should we not vote for you today?

Or are we supposed to believe you have not noticed it is day time yet?

I didnt notice it was day, it's amazing what you miss when you post drunk...

my coworkers tries to kill me this weekend since today is "I'm a year older day" or in my case "I have to lie even more about my age day""

semaj

Vote for me then steiss, but when I come up clean and you know I will, you are next....

Semaj · Post by **Semaj** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 1:35 pm

Heh, chaos...

It had to do more with the fact your statistics are wrong... I know I posted, I went back and looked, and unless I posted during the day and completely missed it (I always look for big write ups...austin threw me off....although in hindsight I shoulda known by the topic change...) I posted during the night cycle, so saying I didnt do it just irks me.

it's like saying i'm not really a man because I dont like sports and I'm thinking: "BUt I do like sports... I'm a man damnit"

lol

BTW.. I'ma let kraegor argue about his death and I am confuzzled by remus self vote. I'd switch to him if I didnt want to make my point with steiss...

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:24 pm

Semaj wrote:Heh, chaos...

It had to do more with the fact your statistics are wrong... I know I posted, I went back and looked, and unless I posted during the day and completely missed it (I always look for big write ups...austin threw me off....although in hindsight I shoulda known by the topic change...) I posted during the night cycle, so saying I didnt do it just irks me.

it's like saying i'm not really a man because I dont like sports and I'm thinking: "BUt I do like sports... I'm a man damnit"

lol

BTW.. I'ma let kraegor argue about his death and I am confuzzled by remus self vote. I'd switch to him if I didnt want to make my point with steiss...

Once again, the notes you are referring to are for the FIRST night, not LAST night.
You are more worried about vehemently correcting the village idiot spewing stats like a seer savant than in actually reading what I wrote.

So why are you so worried about what I have said?

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:44 pm

I intend to get post counts for Monday Day and Monday Night as well, but am currently fascinated with semaj.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 4:26 pm

Chaosraven wrote:
Grundbegriff wrote:Just back from a school trip to DC. Feet throbbing. Gotta dine, catch up on the thread, read a few PMs, and then I'll share some thoughts.
Two days later and all we have is the vote analysis?

Heh. I guess that makes two cycles in which you've been champing at the bit awaiting nightfall, eh?

Grundbegriff wrote:On both the vote against mipe and the vote against Rev:
Chaosraven, mipe

You're a werewolf, Chaosravenous. Waste all the time you want with witchhunts against Semaj (whom I know to be clean).

I have seen the light. And the light says that we shouldn't let you see another nightfall.

Chaosraven

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 4:44 pm

Grundbegriff wrote:
Chaosraven wrote:
Grundbegriff wrote:Just back from a school trip to DC. Feet throbbing. Gotta dine, catch up on the thread, read a few PMs, and then I'll share some thoughts.
Two days later and all we have is the vote analysis?
Heh. I guess that makes two cycles in which you've been champing at the bit awaiting nightfall, eh?

Champing at the bit to hear some info/analysis from the silent growlbewolf, perhaps.
Which is better than chomping on our fellow villagers.

Growlbewolf wrote:
Grundbegriff wrote:On both the vote against mipe and the vote against Rev:
Chaosraven, mipe
You're a werewolf, Chaosravenous. Waste all the time you want with witchhunts against Semaj (whom I know to be clean).

I have seen the light. And the light says that we shouldn't let you see another nightfall.

Chaosraven

Witchhunts?

Hmmm. I stated a simple fact.
The Sunday Night Phase of our game had a checkin post at minimum from every player except Semaj.

His freakout and claim that I stated anything other than that bears examining.

Have *YOU* read the thread yet?

Semaj · Post by **Semaj** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 4:46 pm

Chaosraven wrote:I intend to get post counts for Monday Day and Monday Night as well, but am currently fascinated with semaj.

ok

I thought you were arguing monday night... Based on the fact I remebered your mipe innards comment and I replied right after it. As such I was highly confuzzled.

Not until I read this post did it sink in you meant sunday. Damn the man.

You still look more evil than... pretty much anyone else right now. I'ma ignore remus self vote for now and switch mah vote to you tomorrowish after steiss gives a response. Just thought ya might like to know.

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 4:50 pm

Semaj wrote:
Chaosraven wrote:I intend to get post counts for Monday Day and Monday Night as well, but am currently fascinated with semaj.
ok

I thought you were arguing monday night... Based on the fact I remebered your mipe innards comment and I replied right after it. As such I was highly confuzzled.

Not until I read this post did it sink in you meant sunday. Damn the man.

You still look more evil than... pretty much anyone else right now. I'ma ignore remus self vote for now and switch mah vote to you tomorrowish after steiss gives a response. Just thought ya might like to know.

Meh, no great loss to either side beyond one less villager.

Semaj · Post by **Semaj** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 4:50 pm

ok I lied.

chaosraven

I know your a wolf. I was going to hold off on this another day or two, but getting a wolf now saves us some pain later.

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 4:56 pm

Interesting.

I poke Grund behind the scenes with an accusation of WOLF, and he proclaims you:

You're a werewolf, Chaosravenous. Waste all the time you want with witchhunts against Semaj (whom I know to be clean).

Know to be clean?

Very interesting.

And then you pop on in:

I know your a wolf. I was going to hold off on this another day or two, but getting a wolf now saves us some pain later.

Trying to coerce a "No, don't lynch me, *I*m the SEER" out of me?

Would either of you care to put your fuzzy $0.02 in first?
(Note to ACTUAL Seer: I'm not claiming your job here, perhaps you'd be so kind as to check Grund and Semaj)

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 5:01 pm

Grund states he KNOWS Semaj is clean. So either he's a WOlf and knows Semaj isn't his partner or is lying for his partner.
Or he's the Seer and scanned Semaj.

Semaj states he KNOWS Chaosraven *is* a Wolf. Now the rest of you obviously don't have the knowledge I have, namely, that I am not, so in your eyes either Semaj is the Seer (he isn't) or he's a Wolf (hell if I know) or has misspoken "Knowing"

So which is it guys?

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 9:59 pm

Chaosraven wrote:Grund states he KNOWS Semaj is clean. So either he's a WOlf and knows Semaj isn't his partner or is lying for his partner.
Or he's the Seer and scanned Semaj.

Semaj states he KNOWS Chaosraven *is* a Wolf. Now the rest of you obviously don't have the knowledge I have, namely, that I am not, so in your eyes either Semaj is the Seer (he isn't) or he's a Wolf (hell if I know) or has misspoken "Knowing"

So which is it guys?

You can sing and you can dance, but the voice of the Seer has spoken. You're a werewolf, and it's time for you to die.

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 10:22 pm

Chaosraven wrote:Stuff...

Grundbegriff wrote:Stuff...

Semaj wrote:Stuff...

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 10:58 pm

Grundbegriff wrote:
Chaosraven wrote:Grund states he KNOWS Semaj is clean. So either he's a WOlf and knows Semaj isn't his partner or is lying for his partner.
Or he's the Seer and scanned Semaj.

Semaj states he KNOWS Chaosraven *is* a Wolf. Now the rest of you obviously don't have the knowledge I have, namely, that I am not, so in your eyes either Semaj is the Seer (he isn't) or he's a Wolf (hell if I know) or has misspoken "Knowing"

So which is it guys?
You can sing and you can dance, but the voice of the Seer has spoken. You're a werewolf, and it's time for you to die.

I assume that if Chaosraven comes back villager you can provide us with the "Seer" name. Also, keep in mind that night chatter is allowed so you can point the finger at the correct person if you are being had regardless of timing.

Chaosraven

Mostly I figure that both Semaj and Grund have thrown themselves on the "seer" wagon so either we have both wolves in hand there or we have one in Chaosraven. Since I do not see the two wolves outing themselves in this way I have to assume CR is furry.

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 11:30 pm

I'm the laughing gnome and you can't catch me!

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 12:12 am

Chaosraven wrote:I'm the laughing gnome and you can't catch me!

We'll see about that, furball.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 12:20 am

mipe acc Nobody()
Scoop20906 acc Kraegor(1)
mipe acc Kraegor(2)
Remus West acc Remus West(1)
Semaj acc Semaj(1)
Grundbegriff acc Chaosraven(1)
Semaj wd Semaj(0)
Semaj acc Chaosraven(2)
Remus West wd Remus West(0)
Remus West acc Chaosraven(3)

Votes required for execution: 5

Against Kraegor(2): Scoop20906, mipe
Against Chaosraven(3): Grundbegriff, Semaj, Remus West

No vote registered: Chaosraven, Kraegor, purge, stessier

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 4:34 am

Hmmmm.

I've been in contact with our "Seer."

He didn't mention Chaosraven. And Grund is not who I was talking to. (Well he was, but not about this.

)

So, either:

My "Seer" is a Wolf
Grund's "Seer" is a Wolf
Grund is a Wolf

And here I thought this was going to be just another boring Monday.

Semaj · Post by **Semaj** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 5:03 am

Well

Here is whats going to occur.

1) We lynch Chaos. If he is NOT a wolf we've bagged one wolf, because obviously one of us here is lying. One of the two of us is claiming seer and covering for the other one, it may seem odd, but it gives the wolves only a 50-50 shot of actually getting the seer which is better than 100%. We are both competent wolves and thusly good scans for the other one in case of wolfness, so there is a _good_ chance someone isn't faking seer. Me/Grund/Chaosraven are very sounds scans early on. If someone says they scanned you and mipe, i'd probably call shenanigans steiss.

2)if he does come back a wolf we've bagged a wolf AND someone claiming to be a seer who clearly isnt. As such, when the autopsy comes back and he is a wolf, you need to tell us instantly who is feigning seer steiss. My guess is we might win this game rather quickly, and while I don't like the chances of them killing you with a seer running around, shutting you up might take precedence if it is a wolf.

We might be risking a miss here, but it will give up a large amount of valuable data, which is key in these games.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 5:04 am

Semaj wrote:Well

Here is whats going to occur.

1) We lynch Chaos. If he is NOT a wolf we've bagged one wolf, because obviously one of us here is lying. One of the two of us is claiming seer and covering for the other one, it may seem odd, but it gives the wolves only a 50-50 shot of actually getting the seer which is better than 100%. We are both competent wolves and thusly good scans for the other one in case of wolfness, so there is a _good_ chance someone isn't faking seer.

Wait, so are you saying you are the Seer or Grund is the Seer? Because you weren't the one I was talking to either. So that would mean we have both our wolves! You or Grund should clarify so we can rid the village of lycanthropy!!!

Me/Grund/Chaosraven are very sounds scans early on.

If you say so.

If someone says they scanned you and mipe, i'd probably call shenanigans steiss.

I'm crushed.

2)if he does come back a wolf we've bagged a wolf AND someone claiming to be a seer who clearly isnt. As such, when the autopsy comes back and he is a wolf, you need to tell us instantly who is feigning seer steiss. My guess is we might win this game rather quickly, and while I don't like the chances of them killing you with a seer running around, shutting you up might take precedence if it is a wolf.

Heh, should probably read the whole thing first.

I don't think we should kill Chaos. I think Grund or Semaj should tell us who the "Seer" is, or at least who their other scan was. Not quite as much bloodshed that way.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 8:03 am

stessier wrote:I don't think we should kill Chaos. I think Grund or Semaj should tell us who the "Seer" is, or at least who their other scan was. Not quite as much bloodshed that way.

Are you a werewolf, stessier?

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 8:58 am

Grundbegriff wrote:
stessier wrote:I don't think we should kill Chaos. I think Grund or Semaj should tell us who the "Seer" is, or at least who their other scan was. Not quite as much bloodshed that way.
Are you a werewolf, stessier?

No, are you?

Actually, I just figured out what Semaj meant. If I understand correctly, Semaj or Grund contacted the other and said Chaos was a wolf. So that would mean Semaj/Grund was the other scan.

Do I have this right?

(I don't see the problem in answering. If Semaj/Grund is telling the truth, then Chaos is one wolf and I or my "Seer" is the other.)

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 9:30 am

withdraw Chaosraven

Not ready to rush all willy nilly while this confusion is going on.

Semaj · Post by **Semaj** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 10:58 am

stessier wrote:
Grundbegriff wrote:
stessier wrote:I don't think we should kill Chaos. I think Grund or Semaj should tell us who the "Seer" is, or at least who their other scan was. Not quite as much bloodshed that way.
Are you a werewolf, stessier?
No, are you?

Actually, I just figured out what Semaj meant. If I understand correctly, Semaj or Grund contacted the other and said Chaos was a wolf. So that would mean Semaj/Grund was the other scan.

Do I have this right?

(I don't see the problem in answering. If Semaj/Grund is telling the truth, then Chaos is one wolf and I or my "Seer" is the other.)

thats exactly what I was saying. One of us is claiming to be the seer and the other scan (Besides me or grund) was chaosraven. Thats 2 scans in 2 days.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 11:17 am

Semaj wrote:thats exactly what I was saying. One of us is claiming to be the seer and the other scan (Besides me or grund) was chaosraven. Thats 2 scans in 2 days.

Excellent.

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 11:29 am

Let me see if I have got this straight:

Grund claims that Chaosraven is a werewolf.
Grund claims that Semaj is clean.
Assumption: Grund is in contact with the Seer or is the Seer and Semaj was scanned and shown villager.

Semaj states he KNOWS Chaosraven is a wolf. (Know implies being the Seer)

Chaosraven claims he is not the Seer and that he is a laughing gnome.

Kraegor · Post by **Kraegor** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 11:44 am

Chaosraven wrote:
Once again, the notes you are referring to are for the FIRST night, not LAST night.
You are more worried about vehemently correcting the village idiot spewing stats like a seer savant than in actually reading what I wrote.

So why are you so worried about what I have said?

semaj would be easier to believe if he actually used logic, instead of flaiing about...

semaj wrote:That being said... We need to look at Kraegor and mipe tomorrow... Any arguments? I also am iffy on Chaos because he seems to be trying to cause doubt on everyone. I know it's not a tell tale sign, but it rubs me the wrong way.

synopsis: he begins with saying we should look at "kraegor and mipe" and establishing that he believes mipe innocent... he then votes for himself then we have a claim that he knows chaos is evil while saying there's a 50/50 chance one of them is lying while adding a followup caveat that he would vote for Remus if he wasnt trying to make a point for stessier while saying stessier should die if he does.... is that accurate?

semaj you've accused every vocal poster in the thread and 1 non-vocal (stessier)...while dismissing scoop out of hand even tho you note his flawed accusation of mipe. i.e. you accuse chaos of your own behavior...

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chaosraven would be easier to believe if he didn't post with a constant smirk... his prime argument being his usual self-baiting...

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Grund is being more enigmatic than usual. alignment with semaj throws me off. I'm guessing there is more behind the scenes chatter than is being admitted.

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stessier comes forward to dispute all 3.

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wtf is self-voting in vogue? Remus did it to be a smartass... the rest of you are doing it out of some half-assed belief that it signifies something important... personally I say kill all the martyrs... the trend is pissing me off....

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 11:59 am

scoop20906

mipe · Post by **mipe** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 12:31 pm

Withdraw Kraegor

...

Mipe

Mr Bubbles · Post by **Mr Bubbles** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 12:39 pm