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Re: (03) BSG IV -Night 4- Scoop20906's number is up

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Unagi wrote:Was it his probing for Baltar data, or the way he suddenly became one of the most active players?
The latter plus one other factor.
  • First, nothing else explains redrun's rise from lowest profile to highest. That's the behavior of either a sleeper or a convert.
  • Second, if RevHempus were a sleeper or convert, he'd have gone from low profile to high, and he hasn't.
My intuitions about you, Unagi, have been Human all the way through this game, so I guess I'll be finding out soon whether you're trustworthy. Certainly, you've acted that way; I think it's because you are that way.

If we kill redrun and he's #7 (as I expect) and the game doesn't end, I'd look to purge first as the convert.
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Re: (03) BSG IV -Day 4- Chaos after Chaos

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Unagi ------------------ redrun
Grundbegriff ------------------ redrun
RevHempus ------------------
redrun ------------------
mipe ------------------
Bakhtosh ------------------
purge ------------------ unagi
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Unagi --- 1
redrun --- 2
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Re: (03) BSG IV -Day 4- Chaos after Chaos

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Bakhtosh wrote:We have 6 people claiming Citizen. Rev's last post (or the next to last) contained his claim.

That's simply not possible. Either 10 is active (and lost his powers, so can't even fake his own role), or we have a a roled character keeping quiet...and it's hurting the good guys.
I agree, something is semi-funky right now with the unclaimed specials.

Tory, Baltar, and Apollo can't all be Semaj and Mr.Bubbles.

It would seem that:
A) that Rev is Baltar/Tory and just is sitting on it.
OR
B) Stessier/Scoop sat on the Baltar/Tory role.

Clearly redrun and I are both saying "I am not Baltar/Tory or anything else".

Revhempus seemed to say the same thing, and I think Scoop looked to be saying it too (over and over).

Stessier was the only one who maybe, just maybe left a little wiggle room.
He left us with:
stessier wrote:Some concluding thoughts:
  • I'm nothing worth keeping around and please don't scan me tonight.
  • etc...
I guess that is about it. I've seen things that can't be forgotten (no, I'm not Baltar), and it's time for me to go.

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Re: (03) BSG IV -Day 4- Chaos after Chaos

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Bakhtosh wrote:Lassr, I asked earlier: did ChaosRaven publicly announce that he would be hiding last night?
Chaosraven wrote:As both Proven Victims called for me to be protected by Starbuck last night, thereby allowing me to protect myself tonight, I was an invalid target and both of them open.
Do you think this was enough for the Cylons to figure out he may be hiding?
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  • Athena : Chaosraven
  • Helo : Kraegor
  • Starbuck : Bakhtosh
  • Spec1 : Remus West
  • Spec2 : Grundbegriff
  • Spec3 : purge
  • 6 : Austin
  • Cavil : Sean
  • Apollo : ?
  • Baltar : ?
  • Tory : ?
  • Citizen1 : ?
  • Citizen2 : ?
  • Citizen3 : ?
  • Citizen4 : ?
  • 7 : ?
  • Austin = 6
  • Chaosraven = Athena
  • Remus West = Spec1
  • Kraegor = Helo
  • Sean, M of KtSP = Cavil
  • Bakhtosh = Starbuck
  • Grundbegriff = Spec2
  • purge = Spec3
  • mipe = <human>
  • Scoop20906 = <human>
  • Mr. Bubbles = ?
  • Semaj = ?
  • stessier = ?
  • redrun = ?
  • RevHempus = ?
  • Unagi = ?
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Re: (03) BSG IV -Day 4- Chaos after Chaos

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Grundbegriff wrote:
  • Apollo : ?
  • Baltar : ?
  • Tory : ?
  • Citizen1 : ?
  • Citizen2 : ?
  • Citizen3 : ?
  • Citizen4 : ?
  • 7 : ?
  • mipe = <human>
  • Scoop20906 = <human>
  • Mr. Bubbles = ?
  • Semaj = ?
  • stessier = ?
  • redrun = ?
  • RevHempus = ?
  • Unagi = ?
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Re: (03) BSG IV -Day 4- Chaos after Chaos

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Grundbegriff wrote:
Grundbegriff wrote:
  • Apollo : ?
  • Baltar : ?
  • Tory : ?
  • Citizen1 : ?
  • Citizen2 : ?
  • Citizen3 : ?
  • Citizen4 : ?
  • 7 : ?
  • mipe = <human>
  • Scoop20906 = <human>
  • Mr. Bubbles = ?
  • Semaj = ?
  • stessier = <human>
  • redrun = ?
  • RevHempus = ?
  • Unagi = ?
Fixed Stess for you. He autopsied as human.
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Re: (03) BSG IV -Day 4- Chaos after Chaos

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Apollo : either Mr Bubbles or Semaj
  • Baltar : ?
  • Tori : ?
  • Citizen1 : ?
  • Citizen2 : ?
  • Citizen3 : ?
  • Citizen4 : ?
  • 7 : ?
  • mipe = <human>
  • Scoop20906 = <human>
  • Semaj/Mr. Bubbles = ?
  • stessier = <human>
  • redrun = ?
  • RevHempus = ?
  • Unagi = ?
We currently have live claims to Spec2, Spec3, and Starbuck. Plus 4.

Scenario A: If stessier was citizen#1 AND SemajBubbles (whichever wasn't Apollo) was citizen#2, then we should have the following claims: cit3, cit4, Baltar, Tory

Scenario B: If stessier was citizen#1 AND SemajBubbles (whichever wasn't Apollo) was Baltar [or vice versa], then we should have the following claims: cit2, cit3, cit4, Tori

Scenario C: If stessier was citizen#1 AND SemajBubbles (whichever wasn't Apollo) was Tori [or vice versa], then we should have the following claims: cit2, cit3, cit4, Baltar

Scenario D: If stessier was Baltar and SemajBubbles (whichever wasn't Apollo) was Tori [or vice versa], then we should have the following claims: cit1, cit2, cit3, cit4

mipe claims cit1
Unagi claims cit2
RevHempus claims cit3
redrun claims cit4

One of them is a liar and is actually #7.

Those claims are consistent with Scenario D. Do we have a concrete reason to think Scenario D is impossible? Could it be the case that stessier was Baltar and that SemajBubbles was Tori?
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Bakhtosh wrote:Fixed Stess for you. He autopsied as human.
I only marked living humans as <human>.
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Grundbegriff wrote:
Bakhtosh wrote:Fixed Stess for you. He autopsied as human.
I only marked living humans as <human>.
I see what you mean-- nevermind. Scoop and stessier are dead humans.
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Re: (03) BSG IV -Day 4- Chaos after Chaos

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Let's assume Stess wouldn't have held out unless he was Tory or Baltar. Apollo would have needed to give us his info. Scoop wouldn't have held out any role.
  • Apollo : Semaj/MrBubbles
  • Baltar : Semaj/MrBubbles/Stessier/Rev/redrun
  • Tory : Semaj/MrBubbles/Stessier/Rev
  • Citizen1 : scoop
  • Citizen2 : mipe
  • Citizen3 : stess/rev/unagi/redrun/
  • Citizen4 : stess/rev/unagi/redrun/
  • 7 : rev/unagi/redrun
  • mipe = <human> (most likely citizen)
  • Scoop20906 = <human> (most likely citizen)
  • Mr. Bubbles = (Apollo/Tory/Baltar)
  • Semaj = (Apollo/Tory/Baltar)
  • stessier = (Tory/Baltar/Citizen)
  • redrun = (Citizen/Baltar/Seven)
  • RevHempus = (Citizen/Baltar/Seven)
  • Unagi = (Citizen/Seven)
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Re: (03) BSG IV -Day 4- Chaos after Chaos

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Disregard the previous draft three posts up. I forgot poor Scoop.

Let's try again:

We currently have live claims to Spec2, Spec3, and Starbuck. Plus 4.

Scenario A: If stessier+Scoop+SemajBubbles included {citizen#1, citizen#2, citizen#3}, then we should have the following claims: cit4, Baltar, Tory, LIAR

Scenario B: If stessier+Scoop+SemajBubbles included {citizen#1, citizen#2, Baltar-or-Tori}, then we should have the following claims: cit3, cit4, Tori-or-Baltar, LIAR

Scenario C: If stessier+Scoop+SemajBubbles included {citizen#1, Baltar, Tori}, then we should have the following claims: cit2, cit3, cit4, LIAR

mipe claims cit1
Unagi claims cit2
RevHempus claims cit3
redrun claims cit4

One of them is a liar and is actually #7. That doesn't mean anything's wrong with the claims and the lie as long as we're willing to believe that both Baltar and Tori are in the set {stessier, Scoop, SemajBubbles}.

If Tori or Baltar is alive, though, he should say so.
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Bear in mind that during the midgame mipefest, mipe did briefly claim to be Baltar before withdrawing the claim and playing it off as a joke.
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Grund, Scenario D has a weak spot: Scoop claimed Citizen. You left him out of your scenarios...as I see you've figured out now...
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Stess was a good guy. Why would he not reveal as Tory/Baltar?

Baltar, I could understand...slightly.

Is there a reason to not reveal as Tory and claim citizen?
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Grundbegriff wrote:Bear in mind that during the midgame mipefest, mipe did briefly claim to be Baltar before withdrawing the claim and playing it off as a joke.
Somewhy, I take that as an offence :/ DO YOU PERHAPS KNOW A REASON?
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Bakhtosh wrote:Stess was a good guy. Why would he not reveal as Tory/Baltar?
I think he did:
And now that I'm dead...if Apollo really is alive...don't scan me. No one will fake me. Good luck fellow Citizens!!!
If he had been a mere citizen, would he have bothered to say "don't scan me. No one will fake me."? Why say something explanatory instead of just saying "I'm a Citizen"?
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mipe wrote:
Grundbegriff wrote:Bear in mind that during the midgame mipefest, mipe did briefly claim to be Baltar before withdrawing the claim and playing it off as a joke.
Somewhy, I take that as an offence :/ DO YOU PERHAPS KNOW A REASON?
Don't be coy, mipe.

Are you Baltar?
Are you Tori?
Are you a simple Citizen?
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Possible scenario:

Bubbles/Semaj = Apollo
Semaj/Bubbles = Citizen1
Scoop = Citizen2
stessier = Tori
mipe = Baltar claiming Citizen
redrun = 7
RevHempus = Citizen3
Unagi = Citizen4
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Re: (03) BSG IV -Night 4- Scoop20906's number is up

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Grundbegriff wrote:
Unagi wrote:Was it his probing for Baltar data, or the way he suddenly became one of the most active players?
The latter plus one other factor.
  • First, nothing else explains redrun's rise from lowest profile to highest. That's the behavior of either a sleeper or a convert.
  • Second, if RevHempus were a sleeper or convert, he'd have gone from low profile to high, and he hasn't.
If we kill redrun and he's #7 (as I expect) and the game doesn't end, I'd look to purge first as the convert.
-- If we knew that Baltar was one of the four unknowns, we'd have someone who couldn't be #7 or #10 - increases our cylon kill chances.

Posting pattern - I'm new here, I'm learning this version of the game - so for the start of the game I was more comfortable with posting
less while I learned the tone and manner of discussion here. As folks have died and I've learned more, I've posted more.

Mipe - I think you need to state again who you are. I see a major danger that Unagi & I are both seeing a false claim for Citizen
based on seeing you as a citizen . If you are not a citizen, you need to say such. We can't ask Scoop and Stessier. If I
die, then Unagi will be in the hot seat. If Unagi dies and comes up human, then I'm in the hot seat - and it would pretty bad if
we both came up human.

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Claiming Tory would have likely saved his life since he could give us a human we didn't need to scan (unless that human had already been scanned - mipe). Athena could have confirmed that we could trust him and his scan.

He did specifically claim is was not Baltar, didn't he?
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Re: (03) BSG IV -Day 3 - kraegor & Remus -Dead & Deader

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Scoop20906 wrote:As long as every realizes the drawback to the specialists coming out, namely:

A) If an unknown claims specialist, the can still be activated and turn into #10.

Even if Purge says "I'm a specialist" and Grund says, "Yep, I am a specialist and I confirm Purge", then Purge is still an unknown and must be scanned or killed.

And, I just noticed that Baltar will take over autopsy if both specialists are killed (but we lose one day in between). This could create an interesting scenario (which Lassr handled wisely) where if Grund and Purge announce they are specialists and Grund is killed and on the same night Purge is activated then we will not get a autopsy that night and then Baltar will take over autopies the next night.
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Bakhtosh wrote:Claiming Tory would have likely saved his life since he could give us a human we didn't need to scan (unless that human had already been scanned - mipe). Athena could have confirmed that we could trust him and his scan.

He did specifically claim is was not Baltar, didn't he?
I don't recall. I'm also not finding where Scoop stated his role unambiguously. Links?
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Scoop20906 wrote:I agree that the two specialist must come out.

Its possible we have only one or only two cylons left.

We are pretty lucky that we have such a small pool of unknowns

Scoop20906 ---
Unagi ---
RevHempus ---
redrun ---
purge ---

I realize many of you think I would be a good person to kill today. However, I know I am a citizen so I disagree.

Out of the unknowns I am the most leery of Unagi but I think today would be a smart time to take out one of the less active players in case it comes down to them late in the game.

I suggest today's lynch target be RevHempus.

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RevHempus71 wrote:Ok, 2 dead last night. So # 7 is deffinately alive. Meaning that the dead Cylons are a combination of Six, 10, Cavil. Without Apollo coming forward we have no way to know for sure wich 2 are the dead cylons.

I believe  Scoop 
 
is our badguy. His little code, now more than ever looks like 7 trying to signal the others.
For someone who hadn't posted in the game for 2 days prior to this post, he sure had a great grasp of the mechanics of #7's abilities...something that confused several people for a while.
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redrun wrote: -- If we knew that Baltar was one of the four unknowns, we'd have someone who couldn't be #7 or #10 - increases our cylon kill chances.

Posting pattern - I'm new here, I'm learning this version of the game - so for the start of the game I was more comfortable with posting less while I learned the tone and manner of discussion here. As folks have died and I've learned more, I've posted more.

Mipe - I think you need to state again who you are. I see a major danger that Unagi & I are both seeing a false claim for Citizen based on seeing you as a citizen . If you are not a citizen, you need to say such. We can't ask Scoop and Stessier. If I die, then Unagi will be in the hot seat. If Unagi dies and comes up human, then I'm in the hot seat - and it would pretty bad if we both came up human.

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Re: (03) BSG IV -Day 4- Chaos after Chaos

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stessier wrote:Some concluding thoughts:
  • I'm nothing worth keeping around and please don't scan me tonight.
  • etc...
I guess that is about it. I've seen things that can't be forgotten (no, I'm not Baltar), and it's time for me to go.

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Bakhtosh wrote:
RevHempus71 wrote:Ok, 2 dead last night. So # 7 is deffinately alive. Meaning that the dead Cylons are a combination of Six, 10, Cavil. Without Apollo coming forward we have no way to know for sure wich 2 are the dead cylons.

I believe  Scoop 
 
is our badguy. His little code, now more than ever looks like 7 trying to signal the others.
For someone who hadn't posted in the game for 2 days prior to this post, he sure had a great grasp of the mechanics of #7's abilities...something that confused several people for a while.
Not really. For example, 7 only takes the reins if both Cavil and Six are dead -- and 10 if 10 has already been converted -- and yet Rev comes across as muddled about who must be dead in light of the explosion.

The explosion meant that 7 was clearly king of the hill, but Rev doesn't register that fact.

Great grasp? Not so much. This, for example, is false: "Without Apollo coming forward we have no way to know for sure wich 2 are the dead cylons." But its falsehood isn't a useful lie; it's just confusion.
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Bakhtosh wrote:
stessier wrote:Some concluding thoughts:
  • I'm nothing worth keeping around and please don't scan me tonight.
  • etc...
I guess that is about it. I've seen things that can't be forgotten (no, I'm not Baltar), and it's time for me to go.

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I hope you don't hate me,
I hope you find in it in your heart,
that I just can't make it in this world alone,
For I must go,
My heart is crashin' and burnin',
My hair is gone,
My heart is beatin' hard,
And Doctor comes in,
Sayin' hold on my dear,
But I say,
Its time for me to go,
Cause without your love,
baby,
I'll die alone,
Hope you know,
inside my heart,
I'm crushin' on you,
But I just can't find the words to say,
What I really wanna say,
I'll die with dignity,
knowing you'll be okay,
And Doctor will say,
He died today,"
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Yeah. That post has me thinking he's Tory. He said he's seen things he can't forget. That sounds like he was getting PMs from Lassr. Tory is looking for someone who wants to get it on with a toaster.

But why NOT reveal his role? He had plenty of time to make his reveal.

Why would Tory not reveal?

BTW: in my reviews of the remaining unknowns, I've found reasons to vote for each of them.
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Wasn't Scoop hearing music the last few times he posted?

Here's a tidbit about Tory Foster from Wikipedia:
In the last few episodes of season 3, her mental condition starts deteriorating, and she starts hearing music.
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Unagi pegged purge as Specialist #3 soon after Grund's reveal and was adamant about being scanned tonight and that Chaos had "better live through the night"...
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Bakhtosh wrote:But why NOT reveal his role? He had plenty of time to make his reveal. Why would Tory not reveal?
Maybe to leave options open for his team? There's no good reason for a Cylon to emulate Tory (though one might), but there could be good reasons for a Citizen to do so.
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Re: (03) BSG IV -Day 3 - kraegor & Remus -Dead & Deader

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Scoop20906 wrote:Scoop walks back into the conference room.

He notices Grund is now standing on the conference table proclaiming to those seated there. Unagi sits directly under Grund staring at him with bright eyes and nodding vigorously like a terrier puppy. Chaosraven and Bahktosh are at the end of he table in a very quiet conversation. Revhempus is at the other end of the conference staring off into space and bobbing his head. Mipe is still curled up under the conference table snoring loudly.

"Ahh, looks who has come to join us." Grund announces grandly, "You're just in time to hear my grand statement of how we rid ourselves of the Cylon menace that inhabit this freighter with us."

Scoop ignores Grund and says, "Ok, I know I hear something. Its like a ..."

"Like a tune?" Unagi finishes Scoop's statement.

"Yeah. But, more like a song, some like ... " Scoop hums something.

"Yeah, I have been hearing it too." Unagi turns to Rev and shouts, "REV!!!"

Rev pops out of his trance and looks in Unagi's direction, "Huh, What?". Small ear buds drops of our Rev's ear and music can be heard coming from them.

"Turn down your I-Pod!" yells Unagi.


Grund signs dramatically, "Can we please get back to my proclaimation?"

Unagi turns back to Grund and nodds eagerly as Scoop heads back to his bunk shaking his head.
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Re: (03) BSG IV -Day 3 - kraegor & Remus -Dead & Deader

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Scoop20906 wrote:Scoop walks into the conference room from his cabin rubbing the sleep out of his eyes looking cranky...

Scoop notices most of the group sits around the conference table quietly discussing the possibilities of the day. Mipe is curled up in the fetal position under the conference table mumbling in his sleep.

Scoop asks, "Does anyone hear that sound?"

Bahktosh looks up and says "What sound?"

"I don't know. But, I keep kind of hearing something like a ... but then it's gone.", responds scoop.

Unagi looks at Scoop skeptically, "Is this another one of your tricks? Like that code you scratched out on the wall of your bunk?"

"No one hears anything?", asks scoop again tapping his ear.


"Go sell crazy somewhere else, scoop." purge remarks, "were all full here."

Scoop shakes his head and walks back to his bunk.
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Of course, it's also possible that stessier was Elie Wiesel....
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just got back from the gym. 2 pages ... CRIPES.

 Withdraw Unagi 
 
per Grund.

Let's hope that if we don't nail #7 with this lynch that they kill Grund tonight.

If there is an autopsy report it will vet my being human and reduce the count. Me saying this out loud will likely ensure Grund survives the night, which isn't a bad thing.

As to my change in position, I was bothered by CR's death and the next person on the chopping block per Grund (who was leading the charge) was Unagi.

All of the dialog from the last 2 pages amounts to either redrun or unagi, and unagi pointing at rev (IIRC).

As to my paying attention, I have to tell you my gameplay style being different than last game has more to do with custody battles and ongoing projects at work consuming 100+ hours of overtime over the past month-and-a-half as well as doing reviews for hw/video games for gamingtrend then it has to do with my role in this game.

I've been werewolf twice, converted once and baltar. I've also been a fez-wearing villian and a civie; while I do change in tone I've never been one to keep silent.

As far as Baltar is concerned, he CANNOT come forward and say he is Baltar. He can hint, but per page 1 rules in this game (which I would expect would be altered should the rule have changed) states that if he explicitly comes forward to admit his role, he will meet with an accidental death. Since Six has not converted him, this will not help the humans so stop pushing him. You can ask if anyone has been having recurring fantasies or some other descriptor...

It really is too bad I haven't watched the shows yet, I think I would have picked up on Scoops hint had I known the character beyond this game (which is also the first time I've played a game with Tory in it so it's totally new to me).

Hows that for a typical Purge response? Let me throw in some typos and mistaken names to further convince you. :D :horse: :horse:

PS: Grund, do I need to go histrionic to convince you I'm human? ;)
I would like to apologize to anyone I have not offended.
Please be patient - I will get to you shortly.
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Re: (03) BSG IV -Day 4- Chaos after Chaos

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purge, Lassr removed all restrictions on Baltar self-outing.
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Re: (03) BSG IV -Day 4- Chaos after Chaos

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Unagi ------------------ redrun
Grundbegriff ------------------ redrun
RevHempus ------------------
redrun ------------------
mipe ------------------
Bakhtosh ------------------
purge ------------------
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redrun --- 2
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Majority is 4
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