Scooby's Werewolf Village - Game Over

[stessier]

One quick note. The rules say

Werewolf Hunter - Can shoot a player of his choice each day

This is incorrect and I hope it did not mislead to many folks. The Hunter, as in other games, has one shot to take not an unlimited number of shots. Assuming, of course, that the Hunter exists.

BAH! Where's the fun in that!

[Chaosraven]

4. theohall - WEREWOLF
2. Mr Bubbles - WEREWOLF

Nifty.

Assuming neither of these two end up shot, which should we lynch?

[Austin]

4. theohall - WEREWOLF
2. Mr Bubbles - WEREWOLF

Nifty.

Assuming neither of these two end up shot, which should we lynch?

Good question. But better asked a little later.

[stessier]

Incidentally, among the 1000 other reasons I think Unagi is a Sorcerer, this one is the one that cemented it for me (and convinced me to scan Bubbles). YMMV of course.

Excerpted:

Mipe, what's to say. I think he's the herbalist and that's the Protector. I am not going to lynch him today.

Austin - playing it real cool.

Tru1cy - playing just how he always plays. Deal with it or vote him off, but don't ask him to change.

Bahktosh - not really sticking his neck out much either.

Chaos - being Chaos really.

Mr. B - not sure , he hasn't really pinged my radar yet (probably a wolf )

stessier - thrown a few posts that just keep everyone second guessing people - Certainly looks to be playing with a comfy perspective - at least his tone seems to imply it. Am I conflicted stessier? Perhaps. Are you NOT?

ChrisGrenard - I actually pretty much agree with Kraegor's talk on him.

redrun - Clearly not a noob, although he does try and keep excusing himself... I am paranoid about redrun.

Newcastle - I hope he starts to play.

Purge - I think his main post was just to communicate his impatience with everyone in ability to pick from the menu. the Menu ??? Hello???!

theohall - as someone else said, either "noob" errors or "noob wolf" errors, hard to say.

Semaj - He unwittingly called me a genius. A wolf would have called me a genius, wittingly.

[stessier]

Good question. But better asked a little later.

Ohhhh, it would please me greatly if you were the Hunter.

Please, please, please, please...

[stessier]

Players:


16. Austin - Checked In - Waiting in hopeful anticipation of a result

6. Mipe -

10. Lassr - Midnight Snack
12. ChrisGrenard - Forgot his hardhat - claimed unpowered human
13. Grundbegriff - Midnight Snack

11. stessier - Seer
15. Bakhtosh - Claims Weredog

4. theohall - WEREWOLF
2. Mr Bubbles - WEREWOLF

1. Scoop20906 - Checked In
3. Purge - Checked In
5. Newcastle - Checked In
7. Chaosraven - Checked In
8. Unagi - Checked In
9. redrun - Checked In
14. Kraegor - Checked In
17. Semaj - Checked In
18. tru1cy - Checked In

[Chaosraven]

15 Remain.

Tuesday - lynch "wolf" = 14
Tue Night - wolves kill (X) = 13

Wednesday - lynch "wolf/seer" = 12
Wed Night - wolves kill (X) = 11

Thursday - lynch (x) = 10
Thurs Night - wolves kill (X) = 9

Friday - lynch (x) = 8 (note: assuming either Mr B or theohall *is* a Wolf, or one is not but stessier is then there are 3 wolves here)
Fri Night - wolves kill (X) = 7

Saturday - lynch (x) = 6. Loss at 3 Wolves remaining.

If one of the lynches is a Berserker, move timetable up by one slot.
So the wolves are allowed to kill 4 people.
Working off the theory (mine, anyways) that there isn't a Rabid Wolf, the only downside is if stessier is actually a Sorcerer, as his scan(s) may be worthless and so would his death be, as he counts for us while alive to stave off equal numbers with wolves.
In the event he is a Sorcerer and neither of his offers targets is a Wolf, we will know after Wednesday Lynch, but it drops us to Thursday and Friday as "miss" days before losing.
Which is one less than Lynching Mr B/theo and finding a Berserker.

A Master Wolf would know *a* Seer is dead if it were Lassr or Grund, and could play Odds against a Second Seer.

[Austin]

Good question. But better asked a little later.

Ohhhh, it would please me greatly if you were the Hunter.

Please, please, please, please...

That's not what I am saying, sorry.

[Kraegor]

I don't have time to wait around for all this hide n go seek crap to finish out. yes the hunter should be taking a shot at theohall.

yes theohall should be the lynch. the general cascade of events after that determines the status of the whore. seeing as to how Bubbles is outside the scope of cascading events he is the least informative "first target" and can therefore wait in line.

In the event he is a Sorcerer and neither of his offers targets is a Wolf, we will know after Wednesday Lynch, but it drops us to Thursday and Friday as "miss" days before losing.

incorrect. Baktosh has taken the weredog slot therefore nothing is left.
with a caveat of neither, that knowledge is gained today.

[stessier]

That's not what I am saying, sorry.

Bummer.



Players:

6. Mipe -

10. Lassr - Midnight Snack
12. ChrisGrenard - Forgot his hardhat - claimed unpowered human
13. Grundbegriff - Midnight Snack

11. stessier - Seer
15. Bakhtosh - Claims Weredog

4. theohall - WEREWOLF
2. Mr Bubbles - WEREWOLF

1. Scoop20906 - Checked In
3. Purge - Checked In
5. Newcastle - Checked In
7. Chaosraven - Checked In
8. Unagi - Checked In
9. redrun - Checked In
14. Kraegor - Checked In
16. Austin - Checked In
17. Semaj - Checked In
18. tru1cy - Checked In

[Kraegor]

 theohall 
 
threatening to out the whore was a tactical error. if you wanted stessier to die first you should not have made a wolfish threat.

[stessier]

Hey Remus, can you tell us if you are sitting on a Shoot Order?


If not, we might as well go ahead and lynch Theohall. I doubt mipe's play was that of a Hunter.

[Kraegor]

it was more useful for stessier to answer chaos' question as the "test" was of him. Stessier failed that test by not responding and I don't have time to wait him out.

later.

[stessier]

Human Specials

• Special 1 - Seer - stessier
  Special 2 - Weredog - Bakhtosh
  Special 3 - ??? - mipe
  Special 4 - Whore - ???
  Special 5 - ??? - ???
  Special 6 - ??? - Chaosraven

[stessier]

it was more useful for stessier to answer chaos' question as the "test" was of him. Stessier failed that test by not responding and I don't have time to wait him out.

later.

Which question?

[mipe]

 Theo 
 


If Theo is wolf:
a) Stessier is the Seer
B) Stessier is a wolf and sacrifices *probably* unpowered wolf, and seer is still alive
C) Stessier is a wolf and sacrifices *probably* unpowered wolf, while real seer is dead -> everyone thinks Stess is seer.

If Theo isn't wolf:
A) Stess dies the next day.

[Kraegor]

I think the Whore and the Hunter should stay hidden. I don't think with at least 4 evil (potentially 7) we should be so quick to show the specials. One more day may give us a better understanding of who's who.

We should lynch the target (if you all believe Stess as the seer), and not call forth the hunter shot.

you are dead wrong. the shot should occur now.

[Kraegor]

it was more useful for stessier to answer chaos' question as the "test" was of him. Stessier failed that test by not responding and I don't have time to wait him out.

later.

Which question?

well its on this page shouldnt be hard to find chaos asking you a question.

4. theohall - WEREWOLF
2. Mr Bubbles - WEREWOLF

Nifty.

Assuming neither of these two end up shot, which should we lynch?

[stessier]

well its on this page shouldnt be hard to find chaos asking you a question.

4. theohall - WEREWOLF
2. Mr Bubbles - WEREWOLF

Nifty.

Assuming neither of these two end up shot, which should we lynch?

How the heck should I know!?! I get Wolf/Human. After that, it's out of my hands.

[stessier]

Vote Count - Tuesday

• Austin acc tru1cy(1)
  Austin wd tru1cy(0)
  Austin acc stessier(1)
  tru1cy acc mipe(1)
  tru1cy wd mipe(0)
  tru1cy acc stessier(2)
  Newcastle acc stessier(3)
  Unagi acc stessier(4)
  redrun acc stessier(5)
• theohall acc stessier(1)
• purge acc stessier(2)
• Kraegor acc theohall(1)
• mipe acc theohall(2)

Votes required for majority: 8

Against stessier(2): theohall, purge
Against theohall(2): Kraegor, mipe

No Votes Registered: Austin, Bakhtosh, Chaosraven, Mr Bubbles, Newcastle, redrun, Scoop20906, Semaj, stessier, tru1cy, Unagi

[Unagi]

Meh, I can't think of any downside.

Mr Bubbles is a Werewolf.

I'd beleive it too.

My guess is that Purge is #3..

[stessier]

Players:

10. Lassr - Midnight Snack
12. ChrisGrenard - Forgot his hardhat - claimed unpowered human
13. Grundbegriff - Midnight Snack

11. stessier - Seer
15. Bakhtosh - Claims Weredog

4. theohall - WEREWOLF
2. Mr Bubbles - WEREWOLF

1. Scoop20906 - Checked In
3. Purge - Checked In
5. Newcastle - Checked In
6. mipe - Checked In
7. Chaosraven - Checked In
8. Unagi - Checked In
9. redrun - Checked In
14. Kraegor - Checked In
16. Austin - Checked In
17. Semaj - Checked In
18. tru1cy - Checked In[/quote]

Looks like that is everyone then. Once Remus checks in, I'll cast my vote for Theohall.

[Bakhtosh]

FWIW, Stess was right to out himself when he did, I was about to vote him prior to his reveal. That would have left him 2 votes away.

and  Theohall 
 

[Bakhtosh]

Meh, I can't think of any downside.

Mr Bubbles is a Werewolf.

I'd beleive it too.

My guess is that Purge is #3..

It's funny, MrBubbles and Purge were high on my radar too.

[Bakhtosh]

Purge recommending the hunter stay hidden when we have a seer claiming he found a wolf is pretty bad. That jumped him up my list.

Bubbles: I don't recall what set off my alarms, but was considering voting him before the stess wagon got going.

[stessier]

So should I scan Chaos tonight on the theory that we will have one trusted who will always live through the Night?

Or do I go on a hunch and try to find another wolf?

[stessier]

Vote Count - Tuesday

• Austin acc tru1cy(1)
  Austin wd tru1cy(0)
  Austin acc stessier(1)
  tru1cy acc mipe(1)
  tru1cy wd mipe(0)
  tru1cy acc stessier(2)
  Newcastle acc stessier(3)
  Unagi acc stessier(4)
  redrun acc stessier(5)
• theohall acc stessier(1)
• purge acc stessier(2)
• Kraegor acc theohall(1)
• mipe acc theohall(2)
• Bakhtosh acc theohall(3)

Votes required for majority: 8

Against stessier(2): theohall, purge
Against theohall(3): Kraegor, mipe, Bakhtosh

No Votes Registered: Austin, Chaosraven, Mr Bubbles, Newcastle, redrun, Scoop20906, Semaj, stessier, tru1cy, Unagi

[Scoop20906]

So should I scan Chaos tonight on the theory that we will have one trusted who will always live through the Night?

Or do I go on a hunch and try to find another wolf?

 theohall 
 
Stess, you are 2 for 2. I say go hunch.

[Semaj]

 Theohall 
 


IF not everyone has checked in before the lynching takes place we can wait to make sure there are no shoot orders, but due to the low amount of slots left:

6 powered:
1) Seer - Steisser claiming... looking fairly accurate
2) Herbalist - mipe claiming
3) Wolvesbane(?) - Chaos claiming....
4) Whore - Theo has claimed there is one, I missed if someone else has said the same today... I think Chaos might have but I am lazy
5) Weredog - Bahktosh claiming
6) (possible hunter slot here)

Thats a 1/12 chance of a hunter atm... And if anyone else outted themselves as a goodie, 0/12 chance.

Either way, i'm pulling the usual semaj-banging-his-head-into-a-wall when people out themselves too quickly thing.

I like you Semaj, but you don't know what you are talking about.

Fair enough, but back when we all thought you had _1_ wolf and outted yourself with 3 votes to go, I got visions of triggerfinger/MM in my head.... (JLA game reference)

[Unagi]

Purge recommending the hunter stay hidden when we have a seer claiming he found a wolf is pretty bad. That jumped him up my list.

Bubbles: I don't recall what set off my alarms, but was considering voting him before the stess wagon got going.

To me it was Purge's attempt to play both sides at the end of the day yesteday ("We shouldn't kill ChrisG, that is perfectly clear - but hey, let's see what happens if we do.")
- Then, that followed up by his outrage against stessier started to give me that whole 'wait a minute here' feeling.
His vote for stessier today, that was just pure sloppy.

Oh, and stessier - you have yet to thank me.
Gunning for you yesterday was all part of my master plan to keep you alive over night.

no .
really.










You can scan me stessier, I'd love to join the ranks of the 'known humans', but I accept that my play may be suspect as sorcerer.
I feel that Kraegor's play is suspect as Sorcerer a little too. (Scoop maybe too.)

Chaos could also be a sorcerer, (asking the wolves to not bother attacking him perhaps) - but the other angle would be that Chaos is a wolf and his 'semi-claim' that people equated to Wolvesbane , would have been the claim of a wolf, not a human (I would think.)

I think you should look for a wolf perhaps.

Feel free to scan me, but my best guess is that Purge is wolf #3.

Clearly, this villages "Last Miss" should be Bakhtosh, as well, he'll admit to that - I would think.


Now, Mipe - - you do understand that if we kill Theohall and he turns up Wolf - you are under serious obligation to give him protection for tonight. You do not , tomorrow, explain how you just wanted to stay alive or something. Keeping the 'presumed' Seer alive is key tonight.

If stessier dies, it would be because you are a wolf.

So, are we working on the thought that the Hunter is not a resident of this village then?

 theohall 
 

[stessier]

Vote Count - Tuesday

• Austin acc tru1cy(1)
  Austin wd tru1cy(0)
  Austin acc stessier(1)
  tru1cy acc mipe(1)
  tru1cy wd mipe(0)
  tru1cy acc stessier(2)
  Newcastle acc stessier(3)
  Unagi acc stessier(4)
  redrun acc stessier(5)
• theohall acc stessier(1)
• purge acc stessier(2)
• Kraegor acc theohall(1)
• mipe acc theohall(2)
• Bakhtosh acc theohall(3)
• "The Bull" acc theohall(4)
• Semaj acc theohall(5)
• Unagi acc theohall(6)

Votes required for majority: 8

Against stessier(2): theohall, purge
Against theohall(6): Kraegor, mipe, Bakhtosh, Scoop20906, Semaj, Unagi

No Votes Registered: Austin, Chaosraven, Mr Bubbles, Newcastle, redrun, stessier, tru1cy

[Austin]

Based on Purge's reaction to call for a lynch over a shot, I almost would rather lynch Mr. Bubbles today. Just makes me think of direction to lynch a zerk. That said I am happy to lynch theohall, but any other thoughts on the Purge push to lynch?

[Scoop20906]

I feel kinda bad for Theohall. Sucks to get caught by a seer this way the first time you are a wolf. And Stessier, you legend continues to grow. You are my first kill candidate in the future regardless if I am wolf or human.

[Austin]

I see theohall is at 8 and I'll happily be the 7th or 8th, but just wanted to hear thoughts on Purge's push for lynch over shot. (Of course Purge might be innocent but he strikes me as evil)

[stessier]

Now, Mipe - - you do understand that if we kill Theohall and he turns up Wolf - you are under serious obligation to give him protection for tonight. You do not , tomorrow, explain how you just wanted to stay alive or something. Keeping the 'presumed' Seer alive is key tonight.

If stessier dies, it would be because you are a wolf.

Meh...there could still be a witch. Hard to say unless both Bubbles and Theohall explode, in which case, with you as a Sorcerer, there would be no Evil Roles left.

So, are we working on the thought that the Hunter is not a resident of this village then?

Looks that way.

Stupid gun laws.

[redrun]

So should I scan Chaos tonight on the theory that we will have one trusted who will always live through the Night?

Or do I go on a hunch and try to find another wolf?

 theohall 
 
Stess, you are 2 for 2. I say go hunch.

-- What he sez.

 theohall 
 

[stessier]

I'm assuming if there was a shot taken, it will count even if we hit 8 before the write up.

 Theohall 
 

[stessier]

Vote Count - Tuesday

• Austin acc tru1cy(1)
  Austin wd tru1cy(0)
  Austin acc stessier(1)
  tru1cy acc mipe(1)
  tru1cy wd mipe(0)
  tru1cy acc stessier(2)
  Newcastle acc stessier(3)
  Unagi acc stessier(4)
  redrun acc stessier(5)
• theohall acc stessier(1)
• purge acc stessier(2)
• Kraegor acc theohall(1)
• mipe acc theohall(2)
• Bakhtosh acc theohall(3)
• "The Bull" acc theohall(4)
• Semaj acc theohall(5)
• Unagi acc theohall(6)
• redrun acc theohall(7)
• stessier acc theohall(8)

Votes required for majority: 8

Against stessier(2): theohall, purge
Against theohall(8): Kraegor, mipe, Bakhtosh, Scoop20906, Semaj, Unagi, redrun, stessier

No Votes Registered: Austin, Chaosraven, Mr Bubbles, Newcastle, tru1cy

[Austin]

With two herbalists we could keep protection on stessier, providing he turns up seer. They would both have to out to communicate and even then there would have to be enough trust that the other was legit and protecting stessier on the night they claimed to be. The other would self protect, or protect the other herbalist and make the wolves take a 50/50 shot.

 theohall 
 


Might as well as Bubbles or he or neither could zerk. With no conversions though it seems likely there will be some zerking.

[Unagi]

Based on Purge's reaction to call for a lynch over a shot, I almost would rather lynch Mr. Bubbles today. Just makes me think of direction to lynch a zerk. That said I am happy to lynch theohall, but any other thoughts on the Purge push to lynch?

That may indeed be really wise.

While we will need to 'take our lumps' at some point - it would be best to not let a zerker take out stessier.

 withdraw Theohall