Warhammer 40K - Game Called- New roles to be sent out.

tru1cy · Post by **tru1cy** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 3:40 pm

What Stessier said!!! Sorry, busy this afternoon. Typing skills is challenged

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 3:43 pm

YIKES!

tru1cy, am I right in assuming that the chaplin only protects against conversions and not against attacks by the Chaos-baddies?

Space Marine Chaplin – The God-Emperor’s preacher in the Space Marine Chapter. Protector the Chapter’s soul. Can protect any player from conversion or infection.

tru1cy · Post by **tru1cy** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 3:50 pm

Scoop20906 wrote: YIKES!

tru1cy, am I right in assuming that the chaplin only protects against conversions and not against attacks by the Chaos-baddies?

Space Marine Chaplin – The God-Emperor’s preacher in the Space Marine Chapter. Protector the Chapter’s soul. Can protect any player from conversion or infection.

Oversight on my part. Chaplin will block Kills and Conversion

Semaj · Post by **Semaj** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 3:54 pm

thats a mighty big change there tru1cy...

Even money says the baddies just went: "Fark!" as a collective at the new changes.

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 4:00 pm

tru1cy wrote:
Scoop20906 wrote: YIKES!

tru1cy, am I right in assuming that the chaplin only protects against conversions and not against attacks by the Chaos-baddies?

Space Marine Chaplin – The God-Emperor’s preacher in the Space Marine Chapter. Protector the Chapter’s soul. Can protect any player from conversion or infection.

Oversight on my part. Chaplin will block Kills and Conversion

I'm glad I pointed that out. Yea for me!

mipe · Post by **mipe** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 4:08 pm

Mr Bubbles: I'm not suffering from a drug induced schizophrenia... unless I accidentally took them instead of my normal daily pills that make me less annoying... hmm...

Semaj: Lrn2read

I left as clear clue as I left in ALL the other games, not my fault if you can't read it...

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 4:09 pm

mipe wrote:Semaj: Lrn2read

I left as clear clue as I left in ALL the other games, not my fault if you can't read it...

Yeah, mipe, but, WHY leave the clue in the first place?????

mipe · Post by **mipe** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 4:11 pm

Scoop20906 wrote:
mipe wrote:Semaj: Lrn2read

I left as clear clue as I left in ALL the other games, not my fault if you can't read it...
Yeah, mipe, but, WHY leave the clue in the first place?????

If I wouldn't leave a clue, half of the people would go "oemg miep didn't leave teh cluu!?! hii mst be da bad gai"

purge · Post by **purge** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 4:17 pm

Firstly, enough of that lolcatting, Mipe.

Secondly, I think we should lynch CR (there's a reason he is named "Chaos").

Thirdly, I think the role of gamemaster is ideal for Tru1cy; it means he only has to show up once every three days.

Mr Bubbles · Post by **Mr Bubbles** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 4:41 pm

mipe wrote:
Scoop20906 wrote:
mipe wrote:Semaj: Lrn2read

I left as clear clue as I left in ALL the other games, not my fault if you can't read it...
Yeah, mipe, but, WHY leave the clue in the first place?????
If I wouldn't leave a clue, half of the people would go "oemg miep didn't leave teh cluu!?! hii mst be da bad gai"

You don't want it to be clear enough where everyone knows. See thats the problem. Sometimes its better information dies with you. I wouldn't be so eager to leave "clear" information right away.

tru1cy · Post by **tru1cy** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 6:05 pm

Yes, the Emperor's Children will learn the results of their scan prior to making a kill

theohall · Post by **theohall** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 6:11 pm

Mr Bubbles wrote:
mipe wrote:
Scoop20906 wrote:
mipe wrote:Semaj: Lrn2read

I left as clear clue as I left in ALL the other games, not my fault if you can't read it...
Yeah, mipe, but, WHY leave the clue in the first place?????
If I wouldn't leave a clue, half of the people would go "oemg miep didn't leave teh cluu!?! hii mst be da bad gai"
You don't want it to be clear enough where everyone knows. See thats the problem. Sometimes its better information dies with you. I wouldn't be so eager to leave "clear" information right away.

So either mipe really left a clue or it's the completely lame one for a player not in the game. If he really left a clue, he'll be dead by morning. Which is why it's stupid to leave any kind of clue when nothing has happened.

tru1cy · Post by **tru1cy** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 12:23 pm

DAY 1

The marine assemble in the Battle Brge ready room and after a quick head count it is noticed the Remus West is mising. Searching his room the assembled marines find the room is dis-array. The small shrine to the Emperor has been destroyed. The eight pointed star dedicated to Chaos on the floor and Remus West body in the middle of it. He had been sacrificed

1. Purge
2. ChaosRaven
3. Remus West- Killed in Action
4. Unagi
5. Stessier
6. Scoop20906
7. Austin
8. theohall
9. Mipe
10. Mr. Bubbles
11. Lassr
12. Semaj

Day One will last five days. Weekends don't count. Majority voting will end Thursday 18th 9am est

Majority is 6. Once majority reached voting is closed.
Vote count threads can be edited by players

purge · Post by **purge** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 12:28 pm

purge wrote:Thirdly, I think the role of gamemaster is ideal for Tru1cy; it means he only has to show up once every three days.

Tru1cy, did you miss this?

I guess you've got it set to 5 days this time.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 12:52 pm

mipe · Post by **mipe** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 12:59 pm

Tru1--- I mean Mipe

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 1:14 pm

I like the hard deadline, Tru1cy.

Ok, we lost Remus. I don't think he dropped any clues last night. Certainly nothing like what Mipe did.

The baddies chose to kill him and not convert him and since they get the results of their scan before they choose their victim there is a good chance Remus was just a normal.

Still, it seems like a dumb move on their part because it gives us a chance to kill their conversion guy today before he gets to convert someone.

I want to read something into Mipe not being their target but I'm not sure what yet. His reaction to people's reaction to his clue can be read to be a bit guilty. At some point this guy is going wake up and use his clues to fake a special role. I know in the last game and a game before that I totally avoided voting for him because I expected he wasn't lying with this clues but that can't continue forever. Someday he is going to try and fool us. I'm tempted to vote for him but if he is one of our specials ... [SIGH] Mipe!!

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 1:15 pm

mipe wrote: Tru1--- I mean Mipe

Wait. Mipe, why are you voting for yourself?

theohall · Post by **theohall** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 1:42 pm

Scoop20906 wrote: The baddies chose to kill him and not convert him and since they get the results of their scan before they choose their victim there is a good chance Remus was just a normal.

That seems like poor logic. If the EC knows someone is normal from their scan, why waste their time killing a known normal? Just pick someone else and hope the second choice is a special. Even if the 2nd choice wasn't a special (and they wouldn't know), it still knocks the number of Dark Angels to choose to scan down to 8 instead of 9, because they know the guy scanned, and left alive, is just a Space Marine.

Wondering what the heck to do now, since mipe is either a special or lying really well.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 1:45 pm

So, no conversion. Remus dead.

Was Remus their scan - and they killed him, that would be my guess - and that Remus was indeed a special.

Why they didn't convert is likely so as to screw with our seer scans, so we can perhaps guess that our seer is still alive... but I'm not sure

Mipe, not sure what your 'hint' was about there, or why you felt so compelled to place one, even a joke one about being a Plague Marine (or a more "mipe" like one hidden in the actual poem).
Your claim that you did it to avoid the attention you would have gotten by not having a hint this time, well it actually smells more foul than if you just didn't feel so damned compelled to do it in the first place.

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 1:52 pm

theohall wrote:
Scoop20906 wrote: The baddies chose to kill him and not convert him and since they get the results of their scan before they choose their victim there is a good chance Remus was just a normal.
That seems like poor logic. If the EC knows someone is normal from their scan, why waste their time killing a known normal? Just pick someone else and hope the second choice is a special. Even if the 2nd choice wasn't a special (and they wouldn't know), it still knocks the number of Dark Angels to choose to scan down to 8 instead of 9, because they know the guy scanned, and left alive, is just a Space Marine.

Wondering what the heck to do now, since mipe is either a special or lying really well.

Thats true. So that means they scanned someone and saw they were normal and then chose to kill Remus who they hadn't scanned. Still really doesn't explain why they didn't convert anyone.

And then we have mipe. The guy leaves a clue that hints he is a special, then tells everyone that if he didn't leave a hint then everyone would think he is a baddie, then survives the first night and then self-votes first chance he gets. I want to vote for him but my gut tells me that if he were truly a baddie, then he would be able to control himself and not announce it to everyone.

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 1:56 pm

Unagi wrote:Your claim that you did it to avoid the attention you would have gotten by not having a hint this time, well it actually smells more foul than if you just didn't feel so damned compelled to do it in the first place.

But thats the thing, Unagi. If Mipe is a bad guy, do you think he could control himself and not start spouting stuff about killing people and retribution and all kinds of stuff?

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 1:59 pm

Umm...

would it not make a little more sense that they scanned someone ELSE and THEN killed Remus?

As in they scanned someone they think would be a good choice for conversion tonight?

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 2:18 pm

Chaosraven wrote:Umm...

would it not make a little more sense that they scanned someone ELSE and THEN killed Remus?

As in they scanned someone they think would be a good choice for conversion tonight?

Well, the priest can block both a conversion and kill attempt so there is no advantage to scanning someone and then killing someone else. The odds are the same for a kill or a convertsion to be blocked. Why didn't they just scan the person they wanted to convert and then convert them?

Space Marine Chaplin – The God-Emperor’s preacher in the Space Marine Chapter. Protector the Chapter’s soul. Can protect any player from conversion or infection.

Unless maybe they scanned the priest who can self-protect each night. The way this reads, the chaplin/priest can protect anyone (including himself) each night so self-protection everyone night is the way to go.

theohall · Post by **theohall** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 2:59 pm

Scoop20906 wrote:Well, the priest can block both a conversion and kill attempt so there is no advantage to scanning someone and then killing someone else. The odds are the same for a kill or a conversion to be blocked. Why didn't they just scan the person they wanted to convert and then convert them?

This is my guess as to what happened and the future.

a) Scan turned up normal.
b) Leave the normal alone, since normals aren't a threat to the bad guys
c) Pick someone else and kill them since you want to save the conversion for a special.
d) Scan tomorrow night
e) If scan is a special, convert. If scan is a normal, kill someone else.
f) Once a special has been converted, if scan is a special, kill them, if normal kill someone else.

This reduces the pool quickly and is the fastest way to identify the roles. Granted, if they accidentally kill off specials this will take longer, but it doesn't hurt them at all.

If I were and Emperor's Child, that's how I would ensure the Emperor's continued reign.

My question - how do we Dark Angels stop it?

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 3:15 pm

I think the only natural solution is . . .

Chaosraven

I mean they always talk about it, and then they discuss it, then they finally decide to do it anyway.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 3:27 pm

Scoop20906 wrote:
theohall wrote:
Scoop20906 wrote: The baddies chose to kill him and not convert him and since they get the results of their scan before they choose their victim there is a good chance Remus was just a normal.
That seems like poor logic. If the EC knows someone is normal from their scan, why waste their time killing a known normal? Just pick someone else and hope the second choice is a special. Even if the 2nd choice wasn't a special (and they wouldn't know), it still knocks the number of Dark Angels to choose to scan down to 8 instead of 9, because they know the guy scanned, and left alive, is just a Space Marine.

Wondering what the heck to do now, since mipe is either a special or lying really well.
Thats true. So that means they scanned someone and saw they were normal and then chose to kill Remus who they hadn't scanned. Still really doesn't explain why they didn't convert anyone.

And then we have mipe. The guy leaves a clue that hints he is a special, then tells everyone that if he didn't leave a hint then everyone would think he is a baddie, then survives the first night and then self-votes first chance he gets. I want to vote for him but my gut tells me that if he were truly a baddie, then he would be able to control himself and not announce it to everyone.

Thing is, Mipe's clue says he's a plague marine which we know does not exist in this game. False clue then self vote, he may actually be a baddie this game.

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 3:28 pm

theohall wrote:
Scoop20906 wrote:Well, the priest can block both a conversion and kill attempt so there is no advantage to scanning someone and then killing someone else. The odds are the same for a kill or a conversion to be blocked. Why didn't they just scan the person they wanted to convert and then convert them?

This is my guess as to what happened and the future.

a) Scan turned up normal.
b) Leave the normal alone, since normals aren't a threat to the bad guys
c) Pick someone else and kill them since you want to save the conversion for a special.
d) Scan tomorrow night
e) If scan is a special, convert. If scan is a normal, kill someone else.
f) Once a special has been converted, if scan is a special, kill them, if normal kill someone else.

This reduces the pool quickly and is the fastest way to identify the roles. Granted, if they accidentally kill off specials this will take longer, but it doesn't hurt them at all.

If I were and Emperor's Child, that's how I would ensure the Emperor's continued reign.

My question - how do we Dark Angels stop it?

First off, I think the chaplin should continue to self-protect since I think he may have been scanned last night. Second, the baddies have given us an opening by not using their conversion power. If we can kill the converter dude, then we only have one more baddies to get. If a Seer scanned the converter dude last night then he should come out and announce it.

After that, all we can do is do the Day One crap shoot. However, I went back and did some reading and these two posts tweaked my lidar.

Semaj wrote:my only gripe with his "code" is that it's not a plausible person this time.

Semaj wrote:thats a mighty big change there tru1cy...

Even money says the baddies just went: "Fark!" as a collective at the new changes.

Semaj

Semaj certainly has the tone of a baddie in these two posts. Plus, he proved he can completely dupe me after last game.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 3:30 pm

Scoop20906 wrote:
Chaosraven wrote:Umm...

would it not make a little more sense that they scanned someone ELSE and THEN killed Remus?

As in they scanned someone they think would be a good choice for conversion tonight?
Well, the priest can block both a conversion and kill attempt so there is no advantage to scanning someone and then killing someone else. The odds are the same for a kill or a convertsion to be blocked. Why didn't they just scan the person they wanted to convert and then convert them?
.

Why waste a scan on your conversion...unless you are guarding against running into the protector. If you convert someone they'll tell you who they were. Just another thought.

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 3:32 pm

Lassr wrote:
Scoop20906 wrote:
theohall wrote:
Scoop20906 wrote: The baddies chose to kill him and not convert him and since they get the results of their scan before they choose their victim there is a good chance Remus was just a normal.
That seems like poor logic. If the EC knows someone is normal from their scan, why waste their time killing a known normal? Just pick someone else and hope the second choice is a special. Even if the 2nd choice wasn't a special (and they wouldn't know), it still knocks the number of Dark Angels to choose to scan down to 8 instead of 9, because they know the guy scanned, and left alive, is just a Space Marine.

Wondering what the heck to do now, since mipe is either a special or lying really well.
Thats true. So that means they scanned someone and saw they were normal and then chose to kill Remus who they hadn't scanned. Still really doesn't explain why they didn't convert anyone.

And then we have mipe. The guy leaves a clue that hints he is a special, then tells everyone that if he didn't leave a hint then everyone would think he is a baddie, then survives the first night and then self-votes first chance he gets. I want to vote for him but my gut tells me that if he were truly a baddie, then he would be able to control himself and not announce it to everyone.
Thing is, Mipe's clue says he's a plague marine which we know does not exist in this game. False clue then self vote, he may actually be a baddie this game.

I don't want to say anything but thats not the way I read Mipe's clue. I don't mean to be unhelpful but if Mipe is doing his "Mipe-Thing" then I don't want to out him anymore than he has himself. I certainly hope I am wrong. I think we will have to test him at some point but certainly not on Day One.

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 3:35 pm

Lassr wrote:
Scoop20906 wrote:
Chaosraven wrote:Umm...

would it not make a little more sense that they scanned someone ELSE and THEN killed Remus?

As in they scanned someone they think would be a good choice for conversion tonight?
Well, the priest can block both a conversion and kill attempt so there is no advantage to scanning someone and then killing someone else. The odds are the same for a kill or a convertsion to be blocked. Why didn't they just scan the person they wanted to convert and then convert them?
.
Why waste a scan on your conversion...unless you are guarding against running into the protector. If you convert someone they'll tell you who they were. Just another thought.

You answered your own question. The baddies would probably scan their target to avoid the chaplin and a miss. I'm probably wrong (seems to be a continuing theme) but it makes sense to me.

Semaj · Post by **Semaj** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 3:46 pm

Scoop20906 wrote:
theohall wrote:
Scoop20906 wrote:Well, the priest can block both a conversion and kill attempt so there is no advantage to scanning someone and then killing someone else. The odds are the same for a kill or a conversion to be blocked. Why didn't they just scan the person they wanted to convert and then convert them?

This is my guess as to what happened and the future.

a) Scan turned up normal.
b) Leave the normal alone, since normals aren't a threat to the bad guys
c) Pick someone else and kill them since you want to save the conversion for a special.
d) Scan tomorrow night
e) If scan is a special, convert. If scan is a normal, kill someone else.
f) Once a special has been converted, if scan is a special, kill them, if normal kill someone else.

This reduces the pool quickly and is the fastest way to identify the roles. Granted, if they accidentally kill off specials this will take longer, but it doesn't hurt them at all.

If I were and Emperor's Child, that's how I would ensure the Emperor's continued reign.

My question - how do we Dark Angels stop it?
First off, I think the chaplin should continue to self-protect since I think he may have been scanned last night. Second, the baddies have given us an opening by not using their conversion power. If we can kill the converter dude, then we only have one more baddies to get. If a Seer scanned the converter dude last night then he should come out and announce it.

After that, all we can do is do the Day One crap shoot. However, I went back and did some reading and these two posts tweaked my lidar.

Semaj wrote:my only gripe with his "code" is that it's not a plausible person this time.

Semaj wrote:thats a mighty big change there tru1cy...

Even money says the baddies just went: "Fark!" as a collective at the new changes.
Semaj

Semaj certainly has the tone of a baddie in these two posts. Plus, he proved he can completely dupe me after last game.

Whatev, i'm pretty much hosed either way, but I'll throw this one out there for ya, you're usually wrong, and this would be another one of them thar times.

I have work, yay, i'll be on like at the asscrack of dawn to see your rebuttal.

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 3:55 pm

Semaj wrote:
Scoop20906 wrote: Semaj

Semaj certainly has the tone of a baddie in these two posts. Plus, he proved he can completely dupe me after last game.

Whatev, i'm pretty much hosed either way, but I'll throw this one out there for ya, you're usually wrong, and this would be another one of them thar times.

I have work, yay, i'll be on like at the asscrack of dawn to see your rebuttal.

Hmmm, well, I can't argue with your statement that I am usually wrong. The history is there. But, why do you think you are hosed, and what do you mean by "either way"?

theohall · Post by **theohall** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 6:05 pm

Scoop20906 wrote:
Semaj wrote:
Scoop20906 wrote: Semaj

Semaj certainly has the tone of a baddie in these two posts. Plus, he proved he can completely dupe me after last game.

Whatev, i'm pretty much hosed either way, but I'll throw this one out there for ya, you're usually wrong, and this would be another one of them thar times.

I have work, yay, i'll be on like at the asscrack of dawn to see your rebuttal.
Hmmm, well, I can't argue with your statement that I am usually wrong. The history is there. But, why do you think you are hosed, and what do you mean by "either way"?

If he defends himself - it looks like he's trying to cover up being a bad guy.
He if does the "yeah, whatever" thing - you've already decided he's a bad guy and so must be because he didn't defend himself.

Classic Catch-22.

Unless Semaj is a good special and could somehow prove it, which he probably can't which is why he feels "screwed."

theohall · Post by **theohall** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 6:06 pm

Let's see who joins the discussion over the next few days and try and figure something out, then. No - this isn't a "kill the silents" ploy this time

Mr Bubbles · Post by **Mr Bubbles** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 6:14 pm

I'm having guests over this weekend so consider my participation spotty for the next few days. I feel a bit more comfortable keeping Semaj alive for a while. I played with him as a bad guy so I'll just say I'm keeping my eye on him.

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 6:21 pm

theohall wrote:If he defends himself - it looks like he's trying to cover up being a bad guy.
He if does the "yeah, whatever" thing - you've already decided he's a bad guy and so must be because he didn't defend himself.

Classic Catch-22.

Unless Semaj is a good special and could somehow prove it, which he probably can't which is why he feels "screwed."

Thats also Semaj doing his patented sour grapes routine. However, I agree that he usually does this when he is a good guy and didn't last game when he was a bad guy. In fact, he was positively cheerful. WHY THE HELL DIDN'T I CATCH THAT!!??!

withdrawal Semaj

I doubt we will get much participation over the weekend, theohall, epecially with holidays so close. Still, feel free to throw your ideas out there if you have them.

theohall · Post by **theohall** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 6:25 pm

What are these "ideas" you speak of? They didn't teach us those in Space Marine Boot Camp. It was just a bunch of screaming, pushups, and blowing stuff up.

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 6:30 pm

theohall wrote:What are these "ideas" you speak of? They didn't teach us those in Space Marine Boot Camp. It was just a bunch of screaming, pushups, and blowing stuff up.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 7:10 pm

Well, I am not sure really what we are to make of the death (vs convert) and what it means regarding Remus.

On some further thought about it...

If Remus was a special:
1. They killed him by luck
2. They killed him because they scanned him as special
- - - If they scanned him as special, why not convert him

If Remus was not a special:
3. They killed him not knowing what he was
4. They killed him after scanning him as 'normal'

#1 and #3 are pretty likely.
#4 is not a chance.
#2 is indeed sorta the wierdo, so yeah - nevermind that I thought maybe they had scanned Remus as special. It's possible - but again - it's a weird use of that scan (to kill him)... And since they learn the role of who they kill, that adds to that being a weird play. Actually there is sorta one way I could see that making sense, depending on the special they may have scanned, but I am leaning toward this: They skipped conversion on purpose. They killed Remus blindly.

Regarding Semaj, there is actually something I see that makes me feel he's is indeed playing a bit "like last time", but I am going to sit on it for just a bit here and see how "the day" goes.

Purge's one post was a little odd, in that he chimed in 5 minutes after the day progressed, but didn't want to comment on it. (Perhaps he composed his post and didn't even see that the day began.)

I agree with Lassr in that converting a guy you just scanned is a wasted scan.
I don't know if that says anything about why they didn't convert though.

Austin jumping right on Chaosraven. See, I gotta be honest - that was actually my thought too, that they talk about how they both would tend to kill one another on the first night so much, it could be that Chaos actually did it... but it also seems like too easy a 'set-up'. I am torn between Evil-Austin trying to get a 2-fer on Killing Remus and then setting up Chaos for the fall, Good-Guy Austin biting on that bait, and/OR Evil-Chaos knowing he could hide behind that kill as a "We always talk about it, so I would be a fool to actually do it" thing. I could be for testing Chaos today - but I would like to hear from a lot more people before I just bite on that as 'bait' .

Theohall - so far I pretty much agree with the things you've said, although I don't know if I agree that they will continue with that formula of play the way you mapped it all out. I would be surprised if they kept 'not converting' - as each day the converter may be lynched and that would be foolish to risk. Regarding who they will convert, I would tend to think of them as building a team based on the 'who' not the 'what' of that player... in otherwords - if they want to add you to their team, they would add you to their team regardless of your role in the game.

Who hasn't even really chimed in yet?
stessier (travelling?)
Purge (busy day?)
Mr Bubbles... I guess my wish for him to shut his pie-hole finally took effect.