The Dark Knight - Fade to Black

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 5:47 pm

Remus West

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 6:25 pm

Chaosraven wrote:Uh no, i'm talking about remus 'cant wont out' with an immediate 'cant\wont find out' pair of posts... Why is he paying so much attention to his own post?

Ahh... funny I read 'mortized' as being 'rrmortoned' and thought of the changed quote....

regarding that moment - not sure.

The question(s) I ask myself:

Was the mistake something meaningful (a poke-the' moment, or not)
What is the mind-set (evil/good) of the person that feels OK with correcting it with a follow up post (guilty/clear conscious? )

Seemed like a meaningless typo/brainfart .
Seemed like someone that just didn't want that sitting there and everyone reading it saying "Um, what?"

Personally, it doesn't really shift Remus around the matrix really.

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 7:19 pm

For me, momentas like that arwe like edits. What did he say? Why did he feel compelled to do something about it? Was it damage control? What did he see that he was afraid others might see\interpret in a way he didn't like?

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 7:25 pm

Chaosraven wrote:For me, momentas like that arwe like edits. What did he say? Why did he feel compelled to do something about it? Was it damage control? What did he see that he was afraid others might see\interpret in a way he didn't like?

I'd love to hear your answers to those questions.

For instance, was it damage control? If so, what was the damage he did?

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:36 pm

Unfortunately in a game where the good gguy specials outnumber the bad guys, it could be the reference to outing oneself.

theohall · Post by **theohall** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 10:13 pm

Well... it seems no one believes Chaosraven is a bad guy. He is still a suspect, but not one of my top 3 now.

Tru1cy is acting strange - kinda like something that happened in a recent event with someone else. Powered good guy - but playing different to avoid the attention drawn by being silent - - which gets him killed in big crowd games.

Remus West is being his usual self in choosing someone to annoy, in this instance Semaj, and Semaj is rising to the bait. Nothing guilty in either of those actions.

Grund is being Grund setting up a matrix for us, which isn't what he really thinks, but uses to get some reaction from us to determine our actual roles (He might actually think that stuff, but it isn't meant to be taken as an end-all-be-all matrix). bad guy

Mr Bubbles is staying moderately involved as he usually does when a good guy - citizen

Newcastle is dead again.

Brendan is actually more involved which is a good thing, since the last time he wasn't, we offed him. Asking reasonable questions and challenging Grund is always a good thing as it furthers discussion and makes it easier to find the bad guys. good guy citizen

Scoop is being Scoop staying locked on Remus West - as I have done in the past, much to my detriment. Probably a good guy - citizen

Unagi - I can never read this guy, so there is no point in any comments from me on him. But - let's say bad guy, this time.

Lagom Lite - active as usual. He's been both bad and good with this style. Leaning towards good guy.

Lassr - One of the powered good guys, most likely.

theohall - working too many doggone hours (13 today), so don't have time to be involved in the conversations. This is my effort to cover what I've read.

Semaj - see Remus West

Isgrimnur - kinda quiet - bad guy

I know this doesn't account for all the possible good guy combinations, but it does account for 3 bad guys.

Isgrimnur

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Fri Mar 26, 2010 8:51 am

the more you guys point out who you think are special good guys the more I think you must be on the bad team.

I didn't put much stock in Grund calling me Rachel because I know he wouldn't print a road map for the bad guys and post it, but theohall now is stating I'm special...maybe I am special, bad guys can kill me tonight to find out. Are you taking a page out of Grund's strategy book now or was that a serious list?

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Fri Mar 26, 2010 9:07 am

Lassr wrote:the more you guys point out who you think are special good guys the more I think you must be on the bad team.

I didn't put much stock in Grund calling me Rachel because I know he wouldn't print a road map for the bad guys and post it, but theohall now is stating I'm special...maybe I am special, bad guys can kill me tonight to find out. Are you taking a page out of Grund's strategy book now or was that a serious list?

Theohall committed a blunder. That means he's not thinking things through with the care he showed in the previous game. And that means....

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Fri Mar 26, 2010 9:25 am

Grundbegriff wrote:
Lassr wrote:the more you guys point out who you think are special good guys the more I think you must be on the bad team.

I didn't put much stock in Grund calling me Rachel because I know he wouldn't print a road map for the bad guys and post it, but theohall now is stating I'm special...maybe I am special, bad guys can kill me tonight to find out. Are you taking a page out of Grund's strategy book now or was that a serious list?
Theohall committed a blunder. That means he's not thinking things through with the care he showed in the previous game. And that means....

he's not think as a good guy or he's not thinking...

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Fri Mar 26, 2010 10:07 am

Lassr wrote:
Grundbegriff wrote:
Lassr wrote:the more you guys point out who you think are special good guys the more I think you must be on the bad team.

I didn't put much stock in Grund calling me Rachel because I know he wouldn't print a road map for the bad guys and post it, but theohall now is stating I'm special...maybe I am special, bad guys can kill me tonight to find out. Are you taking a page out of Grund's strategy book now or was that a serious list?
Theohall committed a blunder. That means he's not thinking things through with the care he showed in the previous game. And that means....
he's not think as a good guy or he's not thinking...

That's typical for theohall.GOOD from what I've seen.

Mr Bubbles · Post by **Mr Bubbles** » Fri Mar 26, 2010 11:16 am

I'm reluctant at this point to switch to tru1cy, just because I don't think an active tru1cy is an evil tru1cy, but [ezmate] it's been a killer week and I haven't had much time to keep up, let alone contribute much [/ezmate], but I'll try to reread everything tonight.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Fri Mar 26, 2010 12:08 pm

Vote Count - Act 1

Scoop acc tru1cy (1)
Lagom acc Chaos (1)
Remus acc Semaj (1)
theohall acc Mr Bubbles (1)
Semaj acc Remus (1)
Lassr acc Brendan (1)
Lagom wd Chaos (0)
Scoop wd tru1cy (0)
Scoop acc Remus (2)
Bubbles acc Chaos (1)
tru1cy acc Unagi (1)
Semaj wd Remus (1)
Semaj acc Isgrimnur (1)
Brendan acc Unagi (2)
Unagi acc Brendan (2)
Isgrimnur acc Grund (1)
Lagom acc tru1cy (1)
Chaos acc Brendan (3)
Brendan wd Unagi (1)
Brendan acc Grund (2)
Scoop wd Remus (0)
Isgrimnur wd Grund (1)
Isgrimnur acc Scoop (1)
Lassr wd Brendan (2)
Lassr acc Semaj (2)
Remus wd Semaj (1)
Remus acc Unagi (2)
Scoop acc Remus (1)
Grund acc tru1cy (2)
theohall wd Bubbles (0)
theohall acc Chaos (2)
Remus wd Unagi (1)
Remus acc Semaj (2)
tru1cy wd Unagi (0)
tru1cy acc tru1cy (3)
Lassr wd Semaj (1)
Lassr acc tru1cy (4)
Chaos wd Brendan (1)
Chaos acc tru1cy (5)
theohall wd Chaos (1)
theohall acc Isgrimnur (2)

Mob rule occurs at 7 votes.

Against tru1cy (5): Lagom, Grund, tru1cy, Lassr, Chaos
Against Isgrimnur (2): Semaj, theohall
Against Chaosraven (1): Bubbles
Against Brendan (1): Unagi
Against Semaj (1): Remus
Against Grund (1): Brendan
Against Scoop (1): Isgrimnur
Against Remus (1): Scoop

No votes:

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Fri Mar 26, 2010 12:18 pm

theohall wrote: Isgrimnur

That's a pretty good point.

Isgrimnur

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Fri Mar 26, 2010 12:21 pm

Grundbegriff wrote:
theohall wrote: Isgrimnur

That's a pretty good point.

Isgrimnur

Damn, Theohall, you are lucky he didn't think it was a good idea.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Fri Mar 26, 2010 12:22 pm

I'm not being quiet because I'm a bad guy, I'm being quiet because there doesn't seem to be any direction in this Day 1 morass. Nobody jumps out at me as tipping their hand, which is the point. This rudderless mass of people isn't making any hard shifts in any direction and I really have nothing to add that I feel would be helpful.

But I love how you see:

Isgrimnur - kinda quiet - bad guy

as a "pretty good point".

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Fri Mar 26, 2010 12:34 pm

Isgrimnur wrote:I'm not being quiet because I'm a bad guy, I'm being quiet because there doesn't seem to be any direction in this Day 1 morass. Nobody jumps out at me as tipping their hand, which is the point. This rudderless mass of people isn't making any hard shifts in any direction and I really have nothing to add that I feel would be helpful.

But I love how you see:

Isgrimnur - kinda quiet - bad guy
as a "pretty good point".

No, the pretty good point was the one I made to Lassr about why theohall's probably not trying to mislead us.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Fri Mar 26, 2010 12:36 pm

Then I blame your selective quoting and lack of explanation in your first response.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Fri Mar 26, 2010 12:39 pm

Isgrimnur wrote:Then I blame your selective quoting and lack of explanation in your first response.

OK. I'm still willing to vote against you, though, since I assigned you to the "Sniper" slot.

Everyone else should vote against tru1cy, though.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Fri Mar 26, 2010 12:49 pm

I'd probably be playing differently if someone who mattered had assigned me the sniper slot, but they didn't, so I'll fill the role I was given instead, your aspersions notwithstanding.

As for tru1cy, I'm torn about the self-vote thing. Even so, with your vote removal and his self vote, he's only at three that can be counted on. Hardly a groundswell of suspicion.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Fri Mar 26, 2010 12:57 pm

Isgrimnur wrote:I'd probably be playing differently if someone who mattered had assigned me the sniper slot, but they didn't, so I'll fill the role I was given instead, your aspersions notwithstanding.

As for tru1cy, I'm torn about the self-vote thing. Even so, with your vote removal and his self vote, he's only at three that can be counted on. Hardly a groundswell of suspicion.

I'm not really casting aspersions. I'm just drawn that way.

They'll come around. It's not his self-vote that's suspicious. That's completely normal for tru1cy. What's dodgy is the fact that he opened up a line of analysis on Day 1, when approx. 98% of the time, he instead takes a conservative approach to his vote and points out that Day 1 is a crapshoot. So clearly something is different.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Fri Mar 26, 2010 1:03 pm

So I'm becoming the back-up tru1cy with my self-votes and bemoaning the Day 1 crapshoot? Good to know. Now I need to revise my future playstyles.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Fri Mar 26, 2010 1:08 pm

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Fri Mar 26, 2010 1:43 pm

wow, what a slow day 1. I think I'm ready to lynch Remus because somehow this is his fault. Scoop you still trying for the Remus bandwagon? I may jump on board now.

I say we pick a more quiet one that we think could be a bad guy, there's always at least one quiet bad guy hiding in the shadows. tru1cy seems as good a choice as any.

Brendan · Post by **Brendan** » Fri Mar 26, 2010 4:02 pm

I'm willing to vote for tru1cy, given how frustrated I will get as his particip.....

atio....

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inevitably drops off, but I suppose I'd like to at least hear his Woe Is Me speech first.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Fri Mar 26, 2010 4:18 pm

Brendan wrote:I suppose I'd like to at least hear his Woe Is Me speech first.

He's currently voting against himself.

Brendan · Post by **Brendan** » Fri Mar 26, 2010 4:27 pm

Grundbegriff wrote:
Brendan wrote:I suppose I'd like to at least hear his Woe Is Me speech first.
He's currently voting against himself.

Yeah, but he's voted himself off multiple times before.

theohall · Post by **theohall** » Fri Mar 26, 2010 7:07 pm

OK... so I should have listed just the bad guys....

Holy crap - posting at 7 ET???? Yes, finally a "short" day.

Lagom Lite · Post by **Lagom Lite** » Fri Mar 26, 2010 7:58 pm

Well since no special scanner has come out I guess we can assume no (living) scanner has identified a bad guy yet. My tru1cy hunch is as good a guess as I can make at this point so I'm keeping my vote where it is for now.

theohall · Post by **theohall** » Fri Mar 26, 2010 8:10 pm

Meant to say something days ago about CR's Alfred public outing thing.

I am not completely against Alfred publicly outing himself. I am against Alfred publicly outing himself if he has nothing meaningful to contribute. Knowing dead so-and-so was a "citizen" is not meaningful, yet, due to the large number of participants. By not saying anything, we know the dead person was not important. If he discovers an important dead person, by all means, let us know and rely on Gordon to protect him.

Not sure how to handle it if he finds out Gordon is a dead guy though. At that point, it is almost better to stay hidden, then data dump if the lynch train rolls around, unless it is later in our little adventure in Gotham.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Fri Mar 26, 2010 9:33 pm

theohall wrote:OK... so I should have listed just the bad guys....

Holy crap - posting at 7 ET???? Yes, finally a "short" day.

Well luckily you only named me as a possible power, so no harm done, but I would refrain from doing that in the future unless you do have a trick up your sleeve.

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Fri Mar 26, 2010 11:24 pm

Please join the Lynch Remus West bandwagon, Lassr.

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Sat Mar 27, 2010 12:20 am

remus west

so we don't have to hear him complain that one vote isn't a bandwagon again.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Sat Mar 27, 2010 1:11 am

Chaosraven wrote: remus west

so we don't have to hear him complain that one vote isn't a bandwagon again.

one more vote doesn't make it a bandwagon yet.

I could vote Isgrimnur. I don't see why Grund named him sniper but then I have no reason not to vote there either.

Isgrimnur

See, that's a bandwagon vote.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Sat Mar 27, 2010 2:32 am

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Sat Mar 27, 2010 5:47 am

Vote Count - Act 1

Scoop acc tru1cy (1)
Lagom acc Chaos (1)
Remus acc Semaj (1)
theohall acc Mr Bubbles (1)
Semaj acc Remus (1)
Lassr acc Brendan (1)
Lagom wd Chaos (0)
Scoop wd tru1cy (0)
Scoop acc Remus (2)
Bubbles acc Chaos (1)
tru1cy acc Unagi (1)
Semaj wd Remus (1)
Semaj acc Isgrimnur (1)
Brendan acc Unagi (2)
Unagi acc Brendan (2)
Isgrimnur acc Grund (1)
Lagom acc tru1cy (1)
Chaos acc Brendan (3)
Brendan wd Unagi (1)
Brendan acc Grund (2)
Scoop wd Remus (0)
Isgrimnur wd Grund (1)
Isgrimnur acc Scoop (1)
Lassr wd Brendan (2)
Lassr acc Semaj (2)
Remus wd Semaj (1)
Remus acc Unagi (2)
Scoop acc Remus (1)
Grund acc tru1cy (2)
theohall wd Bubbles (0)
theohall acc Chaos (2)
Remus wd Unagi (1)
Remus acc Semaj (2)
tru1cy wd Unagi (0)
tru1cy acc tru1cy (3)
Lassr wd Semaj (1)
Lassr acc tru1cy (4)
Chaos wd Brendan (1)
Chaos acc tru1cy (5)
theohall wd Chaos (1)
theohall acc Isgrimnur (2)
Grund wd tru1cy (4)
Grund acc Isgrimnur (3)
Chaos wd tru1cy (3)
Chaos acc Remus (2)
Remus wd Semaj (0)
Remus acc Isgrimnur (4)

Mob rule occurs at 7 votes.

Against Isgrimnur (4): Semaj, theohall, Grund, Remus
Against tru1cy (3): Lagom, tru1cy, Lassr
Against Remus (2): Scoop, Chaos
Against Chaos (1): Bubbles
Against Brendan (1): Unagi
Against Grund (1): Brendan
Against Scoop (1): Isgrimnur

No votes:

Brendan · Post by **Brendan** » Sat Mar 27, 2010 9:07 am

tru1cy

Guests here over the weekend, so best get my vote in now. I've decided that I want to dissuade the martyr complex more than I want to encourage the participation.

Lagom Lite · Post by **Lagom Lite** » Sat Mar 27, 2010 9:11 am

stessier, Chaos isn't voting for himself, he's voting for Remus.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Sat Mar 27, 2010 9:45 am

Lagom Lite wrote:stessier, Chaos isn't voting for himself, he's voting for Remus.

Thanks.

tru1cy · Post by **tru1cy** » Sat Mar 27, 2010 12:14 pm

isgrimnur

decided I'm not going out on a self vote

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Sat Mar 27, 2010 12:23 pm