Fellowship of the Ring (WW) - Conclusion

[Newcastle]

With respect to "who would've killed Semaj?", while I'm sure old enmities can come into play, I think it's probably best if we just assume that it was random; there's not much of an opportunity to create tells in the opening moments.

actually i would think that last game probably had an influence in terms of influencing him as the kill candidate, the scenarios i see

1. It was grund (i kind of doubt it, though would be funny if grund did do such a thing)
2. An attempt at framing grund (person who is doing this has a fear of grund, or wants the spotlight on grund and hence away from them).
3. Wants people talking about the killing of semaj and possible people with motives, when the person who did has no direct/ties motives to wanting to kill Semaj (think team con from last game).
4. Possible person from team corp extracting revenge
5. It was fun just to knock him out on night 1.

So i am actually of the belief there is a reason why someone is knocked out. What it is, who knows. But there is a reason

One likely scenario you omit is that there are other people who the uruk-hai didn't want to kill because of their tactics/tendencies/native assumptions, and that Semaj fell into the class of people that the uruk-hai just didn't care about.

wow, you're a cruel hearted bastard there

 brendan 
 
to go scouting for us,
i prefer folks who have a bit more compassion for others within the fellowship.

[Brendan]

See, now there's an example of someone making a decision based on a previous game.

[stessier]

First post after arriving at the steps on Thu Apr 29, 2010 12:48 am

Players:
1. Arcanis - Thu Apr 29, 2010 7:30 am
2. Semaj - RIP
3. Remus West - Thu Apr 29, 2010 9:58 am
4. Isgrimnur - Asleep
5. Grundbegriff - Thu Apr 29, 2010 7:59 am
6. Chaosraven - Thu Apr 29, 2010 9:38 am
7. Brendan - Thu Apr 29, 2010 10:07 am
8. tru1cy - Thu Apr 29, 2010 5:06 am
9. Scoop20906 - Asleep
10. Unagi - Asleep
11. theohall - Thu Apr 29, 2010 6:18 am
12. redrun - Thu Apr 29, 2010 12:25 pm
13. Newcastle - Thu Apr 29, 2010 1:01 pm
14. stessier - Thu Apr 29, 2010 4:31 am

[Brendan]

Which pool are you suggesting is most likely to hold the culprit(s) - have posted or have not posted?

[stessier]

In Order of Appearance

Players:
14. stessier - Thu Apr 29, 2010 4:31 am
8. tru1cy - Thu Apr 29, 2010 5:06 am
11. theohall - Thu Apr 29, 2010 6:18 am
1. Arcanis - Thu Apr 29, 2010 7:30 am
5. Grundbegriff - Thu Apr 29, 2010 7:59 am
6. Chaosraven - Thu Apr 29, 2010 9:38 am
3. Remus West - Thu Apr 29, 2010 9:58 am
7. Brendan - Thu Apr 29, 2010 10:07 am
12. redrun - Thu Apr 29, 2010 12:25 pm
13. Newcastle - Thu Apr 29, 2010 1:01 pm

2. Semaj - RIP
4. Isgrimnur - Asleep
9. Scoop20906 - Asleep
10. Unagi - Asleep


Post Count since arriving at the Steps

Players:
1. Arcanis - 16
2. Semaj
3. Remus West - 10
4. Isgrimnur - 0
5. Grundbegriff - 22
6. Chaosraven - 38
7. Brendan - 10
8. tru1cy - 3
9. Scoop20906 - 0
10. Unagi - 0
11. theohall - 1
12. redrun - 3
13. Newcastle - 8
14. stessier - 25


From most to least

6. Chaosraven - 38
14. stessier - 25
5. Grundbegriff - 22

1. Arcanis - 16
3. Remus West - 10
7. Brendan - 10
13. Newcastle - 8

8. tru1cy - 3
12. redrun - 3
11. theohall - 1

4. Isgrimnur - 0
9. Scoop20906 - 0
10. Unagi - 0

[stessier]

Which pool are you suggesting is most likely to hold the culprit(s) - have posted or have not posted?

Please - like the answer is that simple.

Why do you think it is that simple?

[Brendan]

Which pool are you suggesting is most likely to hold the culprit(s) - have posted or have not posted?

Please - like the answer is that simple.

Why do you think it is that simple?

[Arcanis]

Which pool are you suggesting is most likely to hold the culprit(s) - have posted or have not posted?

Please - like the answer is that simple.

Why do you think it is that simple?

he is attempting a binary search. If it has to be in section A or section B then you pick one and search it to eleminate half (if only the piles were even) of the searching. It would be awesome if it were that simple though.

[Unagi]

With respect to "who would've killed Semaj?", while I'm sure old enmities can come into play, I think it's probably best if we just assume that it was random; there's not much of an opportunity to create tells in the opening moments.

actually i would think that last game probably had an influence in terms of influencing him as the kill candidate, the scenarios i see

1. It was grund (i kind of doubt it, though would be funny if grund did do such a thing)
2. An attempt at framing grund (person who is doing this has a fear of grund, or wants the spotlight on grund and hence away from them).
3. Wants people talking about the killing of semaj and possible people with motives, when the person who did has no direct/ties motives to wanting to kill Semaj (think team con from last game).
4. Possible person from team corp extracting revenge
5. It was fun just to knock him out on night 1.

I'm here guys, sorry for being a bit of a no-show up until now.

brief ooc/ We Just Closed on our New House !!!! I may just say: What a royal pain that whole processes was... also - Woo Hoo, our current house (now called 'the old house', even though it's 11 years old, and our 'new house' is over 100 years old) anyhow, the 'old house' is now "under contract" too. fuck yeah. Wife is due in 3 weeks too.

I hope to have more time in the next day or two here - but I wanted to chime in when I read the above post.

I have a little theory in these games. Nothing is ever 'a frame job'. People (wolves) behind the scenes talk about them, but they always say things like "and people may think I'm being framed"... people don't do it - they don't find it workable - but wolves love to work it in "Maybe I am being framed!"

Anyhow. It made me think - very 'knee jerk' : Grund did it, no question.... since then, I've sorta backed down from that thought... only because I feel Grund would have checked himself perhaps...

So, I'm not sure - but I really don't see 'frame jobs' actually happening in these games too often (if at all)

So i am actually of the belief there is a reason why someone is knocked out. What it is, who knows. But there is a reason

Well, I seriously hope you do, because you ask "why so-n-no?" every time. Any time you die on Night 0, I always try to be the first person to start the day with: "Why Newcastle?"

[Remus West]

Three weeks from now I will have absolutely no time or energy so you may as well use me to scout today.

Congrats on all of the above events.

[stessier]

Which pool are you suggesting is most likely to hold the culprit(s) - have posted or have not posted?

Please - like the answer is that simple.

Why do you think it is that simple?

he is attempting a binary search. If it has to be in section A or section B then you pick one and search it to eleminate half (if only the piles were even) of the searching. It would be awesome if it were that simple though.

I've never gotten it to work with Time of Appearance in the Game, but I used it effectively on Vote Counts during the Kaos Cruise. Sometimes it is that simple.

[Arcanis]

Grats Unagi. My bundle of evil should be here any day now as well. She is causing her mother no end of grief though, i get to laugh until she hits me for it though.

I think tomorrow would be the time to start poking the sleeping. But that is just me musing.

[theohall]

I have no idea what is going on, other than a bunch of posts about trying to understand the rulez. What I got from all of that, Hobbits stay hidden, yet we need to figure out a way to find a Hobbit or Gollum for Frodo to pass The Ring to immediately before Journey 7. Is that about it?

[theohall]

Congrats, Unagi! on everything.

[Brendan]

Which pool are you suggesting is most likely to hold the culprit(s) - have posted or have not posted?

Please - like the answer is that simple.

Why do you think it is that simple?

he is attempting a binary search. If it has to be in section A or section B then you pick one and search it to eleminate half (if only the piles were even) of the searching. It would be awesome if it were that simple though.

Uh, it is a binary search. There is one uruk-hai. He has either posted or not posted.

[stessier]

brief ooc/ We Just Closed on our New House !!!! ...
Wife is due in 3 weeks too.

Congrats!!!

If you'll excuse me for a moment...

/* runs off to buy stock in 5 hour Energy, Red Bull, and No Doze */

[stessier]

Uh, it is a binary search. There is one uruk-hai. He has either posted or not posted.

Not concerned about the Witch King???

Maybe Newcastle had the right idea on who should be scouting.

[Brendan]

Uh, it is a binary search. There is one uruk-hai. He has either posted or not posted.

Not concerned about the Witch King???

Maybe Newcastle had the right idea on who should be scouting.

Willful misinterpretation on your part. Your post chronology came, without further context, during a discussion of who would've killed Semaj, and the witch king isn't part of that conversation.

[stessier]

Uh, it is a binary search. There is one uruk-hai. He has either posted or not posted.

Not concerned about the Witch King???

Maybe Newcastle had the right idea on who should be scouting.

Willful misinterpretation on your part. Your post chronology came, without further context, during a discussion of who would've killed Semaj, and the witch king isn't part of that conversation.

Say what? I just threw up a chronology of when people started posting this morning. There was no context for it.

Ok - after re-reading, you and Newcastle were having a discussion about Semaj. Everyone else was ignoring you two and playing around with codes and such.

I still have my eye on you.

[Brendan]

Thank god I've been granted a reprieve!

[stessier]

Wait a minute - since you brought it up - how does this jive with a binary search?

Which pool are you suggesting is most likely to hold the culprit(s) - have posted or have not posted?

You expressly note "culprit(s)", yet go on to say there is only on Uruk'Hai and a binary search. That you were only talking about the night kill. I call you a liar yet again - and this time without editing anything.

What do you say to that?!?!

[Brendan]

Wait a minute - since you brought it up - how does this jive with a binary search?

Which pool are you suggesting is most likely to hold the culprit(s) - have posted or have not posted?

You expressly note "culprit(s)", yet go on to say there is only on Uruk'Hai and a binary search. That you were only talking about the night kill. I call you a liar yet again - and this time without editing anything.

What do you say to that?!?!

I edited that post to add the (s) simply to confuse you into thinking I was the hacker.

[Grundbegriff]

I've never gotten it to work with Time of Appearance in the Game, but I used it effectively on Vote Counts during the Kaos Cruise. Sometimes it is that simple.

That's that game you lost, right?

[stessier]

I've never gotten it to work with Time of Appearance in the Game, but I used it effectively on Vote Counts during the Kaos Cruise. Sometimes it is that simple.

That's that game you lost, right?

And you wonder why you get shot at seemingly random intervals.

[Unagi]

I've never gotten it to work with Time of Appearance in the Game, but I used it effectively on Vote Counts during the Kaos Cruise. Sometimes it is that simple.

That's that game you lost, right?

And you wonder why you get shot at seemingly random intervals.

[Arcanis]

so a no edit rule isn't officially in effect.... does it have to be your own post

no i wouldn't do that but it could be very funny.

[theohall]

so a no edit rule isn't officially in effect.... does it have to be your own post

no i wouldn't do that but it could be very funny.

As long as it's one of Brendan's posts, I'm sure everything would be fine. We need an excuse to send someone "scouting" anyway.

[stessier]

so a no edit rule isn't officially in effect.... does it have to be your own post .

Austin! We missed you!!

[Unagi]

Just to talk about the whole No Edit rule.

Normally it's noted that it's really just a gentleman's agreement, and it's your fellow player you need to satisfy.

To that degree - I don't think it should need (I'm not saying that you were saying it should) to be stated or listed. I think it's always in effect, as I think you always need to satisfy your fellow player. (Chaos regularly satisfies me, for instance)

In the end, edit's cause some degree of concern - even thought 95% of them are benign.

[Newcastle]

Just to talk about the whole No Edit rule.
I think it's always in effect, as I think you always need to satisfy your fellow player. (Chaos regularly satisfies me, for instance)

But what do your wives say? They kosher with that, i mean especially you with another bundle of joy on the way, kind of awkward to spring that on her now right?

/backs out of thread, slowly, very slowly

[Chaosraven]

Only a man knows another mans sensitive needs.

[theohall]

Where is Smoove_B when you need herm?

[Scoop20906]

Ok. Just got caught up. The only thing clear to me is the hobbits need to stay silent until the final journey and then we need a mass outting to allow frodo to pass his ring to. In the meantime the specials need to protect and scan.

And the free people needed to volunteer to be scouts unless we need to mount a rescue.

Do I have the jist?

Also, congrats unagi!

[Lagom Lite]

VOTE COUNT

Against Brendan (1): Newcastle

No votes registered: Arcanis, Remus West, Isgrimnur, Grundbegriff, Chaosraven, Brendan, tru1cy, Scoop20906, Unagi, theohall, redrun, stessier

Majority is 7.

Normally it's noted that it's really just a gentleman's agreement, and it's your fellow player you need to satisfy.

This. I won't enforce no-editing.

Congratulations, Unagi!

[Remus West]

 Unagi 
 

He is going to need the extra rest and I'd rather not read details regarding Chaosraven and his affair.

[Grundbegriff]

 Unagi 
 


Go gentle into that good night.

[tru1cy]

yeah, I not feeling Unagi vote, but I like  Remus West 
 
for suggesting it

[Unagi]

lame.

and, I'd like to say that I look forward to playing the game - so, ya all can just back off your mercy kill, k -thanks.


And now tru1cy has gone and made me feel guilty about what I was going to suggest...

[Lagom Lite]

VOTE COUNT

Against Brendan (1): Newcastle
Against Remus West (1): tru1cy
Against Unagi (2): Grundbegriff, Remus West

No votes registered: Arcanis, Isgrimnur, Chaosraven, Brendan, Scoop20906, Unagi, theohall, redrun, stessier

Majority is 7.

[Arcanis]

 Isgrimnur 
 


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