Bond II - The Prometheus Dawn - END!

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:48 am

Unagi wrote:
theohall wrote:It is the first day. I find it odd that Scoop is trying to use logic this early. Ask yourself - why would Qanataga voluntarily bring up he has never been a bad guy on OO?? And then ask - why is Scoop jumping on it?
So, if I follow your logic correctly Theohall, the use of logic this early in the game is the doings of evil?

Scoop's use of logic. Or, to capture theohall's exact nuance, Scoop's attempted use of logic.

Even so, you should vote against theohall.

tru1cy · Post by **tru1cy** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:03 pm

theohall

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:14 pm

Qantaga

He plays closer to the vest than Theohall so of those two I'd rather he go early.

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:24 pm

Remus West wrote: Qantaga

He plays closer to the vest than Theohall so of those two I'd rather he go early.

I can understand this "logic" (is it logic?) but the reason I switched my vote is theohall is the he seems to be fabricated information to push a vote. Now why is he doing that, Remus?

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:25 pm

Scoop20906 wrote:
Remus West wrote: Qantaga

He plays closer to the vest than Theohall so of those two I'd rather he go early.
I can understand this "logic" (is it logic?) but the reason I switched my vote to theohall is that he seems to be fabricating information to push a vote. Now why is he doing that, Remus?

God, I need to proofread.

msteelers · Post by **msteelers** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:31 pm

I'll bite.

Theohall

theohall · Post by **theohall** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:22 pm

No biggie. Won't hurt you all anyway.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:41 pm

Scoop20906 wrote:
Scoop20906 wrote:
Remus West wrote: Qantaga

He plays closer to the vest than Theohall so of those two I'd rather he go early.
I can understand this "logic" (is it logic?) but the reason I switched my vote to theohall is that he seems to be fabricating information to push a vote. Now why is he doing that, Remus?
God, I need to proofread.

4 possibilities:
Q = I ; T = I
Q = I ; T = G
Q = G ; T = I
Q = G ; T = G

Which one of those would have Theohall "fabricating" a vote? I can see him as innocent acting in a way you interpret to be fabricating a vote. I can not see him as Guilty fabricating a vote unless he were trying to save a team member he felt more important. Thus, if Theohall is guilty, following your thinking would to me suggest Qantaga is also guilty. So why are you not voting Qanatag?

All that said, I am not voting where am I based off the above. That was only my attempt to addresss things from Scoop's expressed point of view regarding Theohall. Personally I have no real preference and am letting my vote stand due to the thinking I expressed before when I first cast it.

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:49 pm

VOTES

Truicy (2)- Unagi, stessier,
Scoop (2) - RMC, Qantaga,
ChaosRaven (1)- Rshetts2,
Theohall (4) - Grundbegriff, Scoop, Truicy, MSteelers,
Grundbegriff (1)- Theohall,
Qantaga (2)- Lassr, Remus West,
-

Majority is 7

No votes cast: Chaosraven,

If i missed anything, please let me know.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 4:33 pm

Chaosraven

because he kept me out until after 2 am when knowing I had to work and this day has been a hella suck of tired.

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:18 pm

I'm voting for Theohall not because I believe he is attempting to protect Qantaga but because I believe he is trying to cast suspicion on me. Theohall thought he saw me use poor logic for a vote and tried to start a bandwagon on me.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:27 pm

Scoop20906 wrote:I'm voting for Theohall not because I believe he is attempting to protect Qantaga but because I believe he is trying to cast suspicion on me. Theohall thought he saw me use poor logic for a vote and tried to start a bandwagon on me.

Being a little dramatic there, aren't we? A vote of 1 is hardly a bandwagon and what else are any of us doing but stating our opinions and making our cases for those we are voting for?

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:30 pm

RMC · Post by **RMC** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:36 pm

Remove Scoop

Becasue I am a follower: Theohall

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:39 pm

RMC wrote:Remove Scoop

Becasue I am a follower: Theohall

who specifically are you following?

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:22 pm

stessier wrote:
Scoop20906 wrote:I'm voting for Theohall not because I believe he is attempting to protect Qantaga but because I believe he is trying to cast suspicion on me. Theohall thought he saw me use poor logic for a vote and tried to start a bandwagon on me.
Being a little dramatic there, aren't we? A vote of 1 is hardly a bandwagon and what else are any of us doing but stating our opinions and making our cases for those we are voting for?

I believe that everything Theohall votes he believes he is starting a bandwagon.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:36 pm

Scoop20906 wrote:
stessier wrote:
Scoop20906 wrote:I'm voting for Theohall not because I believe he is attempting to protect Qantaga but because I believe he is trying to cast suspicion on me. Theohall thought he saw me use poor logic for a vote and tried to start a bandwagon on me.
Being a little dramatic there, aren't we? A vote of 1 is hardly a bandwagon and what else are any of us doing but stating our opinions and making our cases for those we are voting for?
I believe that everything Theohall votes he believes he is starting a bandwagon.

I'm betting every time too.

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:51 pm

Remus West wrote: Chaosraven

because he kept me out until after 2 am when knowing I had to work and this day has been a hella suck of tired.

ah quit crying, you won. But just so you know, I slept in until Noon

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:53 pm

Lassr wrote:
RMC wrote:Remove Scoop

Becasue I am a follower: Theohall

who specifically are you following?

this interests me... Time to read for RMC notes

RMC · Post by **RMC** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 7:14 pm

Chaosraven wrote:
Lassr wrote:
RMC wrote:Remove Scoop

Becasue I am a follower: Theohall

who specifically are you following?
this interests me... Time to read for RMC notes

This:
Truicy (2)- Unagi, stessier,
Scoop (2) - RMC, Qantaga,
ChaosRaven (1)- Rshetts2,
Theohall (4) - Grundbegriff, Scoop, Truicy, MSteelers,
Grundbegriff (1)- Theohall,
Qantaga (2)- Lassr, Remus West,

4 people are voting for Theohall. I assume we are all agents here, so if you all think he's the one, I am right there with you.

Nothing interesting, jsut following along with the group.

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 7:53 pm

stessier wrote:
Scoop20906 wrote:
stessier wrote:
Scoop20906 wrote:I'm voting for Theohall not because I believe he is attempting to protect Qantaga but because I believe he is trying to cast suspicion on me. Theohall thought he saw me use poor logic for a vote and tried to start a bandwagon on me.
Being a little dramatic there, aren't we? A vote of 1 is hardly a bandwagon and what else are any of us doing but stating our opinions and making our cases for those we are voting for?
I believe that everything Theohall votes he believes he is starting a bandwagon.
I'm betting every time too.

Oh fer! I'm surprised I can even spell.

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 7:54 pm

Theohall is N-2, right?

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:10 pm

VOTES

Truicy (2)- Unagi, stessier,
Scoop (1) - Qantaga,
ChaosRaven (1)- Rshetts2, Remus West,
Theohall (5) - Grundbegriff, Scoop, Truicy, MSteelers, RMC,
Grundbegriff (1)- Theohall,
Qantaga (1)- Lassr,
-

Majority is 7

No votes cast: Chaosraven,

If i missed anything, please let me know.

rshetts2 · Post by **rshetts2** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 9:21 pm

well day one has taken a week so in the interest of moving things along Ill withdraw ChaosRaven

and join the Theohall

train

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:03 pm

Lets give theohall a chance to speak up and get him back to n-2. Where the heck are you theohall?

withdrawal theohall

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Thu Feb 24, 2011 1:38 am

RMC wrote:Nothing interesting, jsut following along with the group.

Actually, for Day One, you seem to be doing quite a bit of that... and changing with the wind.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:05 am

Scoop20906 wrote:Lets give theohall a chance to speak up and get him back to n-2. Where the heck are you theohall?

withdrawal theohall

Why is N-2 so preferable to N-1?

theohall · Post by **theohall** » Thu Feb 24, 2011 8:21 am

I was out.

Anyway, I was just stating my thoughts on Scoop's thoughts. If I were trying to start a train, wouldn't I have at least voted for Scoop?? I haven't.... yet.

And like I said when Scoop decided to vote hop and a few of you followed - no biggie if I'm offed. Feel free.

Your bad guys are among those voting for me. They know I'm not one of them.

tru1cy · Post by **tru1cy** » Thu Feb 24, 2011 8:26 am

Remus West wrote:
Scoop20906 wrote:Lets give theohall a chance to speak up and get him back to n-2. Where the heck are you theohall?

withdrawal theohall

Why is N-2 so preferable to N-1?

cause he didn't want his partner voted off

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:11 am

tru1cy wrote:
Remus West wrote:
Scoop20906 wrote:Lets give theohall a chance to speak up and get him back to n-2. Where the heck are you theohall?

withdrawal theohall

Why is N-2 so preferable to N-1?
cause he didn't want his partner voted off

That is the same sort of paper thin logic Scoop was using. If Scoop's behavior makes him seem questionable then you should vote him not decide that Theohall is guilty because Scoop acts odd.

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:14 am

Remus West wrote:
Scoop20906 wrote:Lets give theohall a chance to speak up and get him back to n-2. Where the heck are you theohall?

withdrawal theohall

Why is N-2 so preferable to N-1?

Uhhh, aren't you the guy that told me that we needed to give a person at n-1 a chance to spill if they are a special? Well, I didn't want to take a chance in someone offing theohall before he had a chance to speak up.

Anyway, he's spoken and didn't claim a special so I am fine with voting for him now.

accuse theohall

No offense, theohall. See ya next game.

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:16 am

Remus West wrote:
tru1cy wrote:
Remus West wrote:
Scoop20906 wrote:Lets give theohall a chance to speak up and get him back to n-2. Where the heck are you theohall?

withdrawal theohall

Why is N-2 so preferable to N-1?
cause he didn't want his partner voted off
That is the same sort of paper thin logic Scoop was using. If Scoop's behavior makes him seem questionable then you should vote him not decide that Theohall is guilty because Scoop acts odd.

Maybe theohall is your partner?

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:23 am

What is the case against Theohall again? Because Grund and Scoop said so and the lemmings followed?

I think tru1cy is still a much better target. With a mere 2 votes, he has drastically increased his participation to something like a post a day. He too has specifically said it wouldn't hurt to off him, meaning not a Special, but still participating. That just screams Wolf to me.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:13 am

Scoop20906 wrote:
Remus West wrote:
tru1cy wrote:
Remus West wrote:
Scoop20906 wrote:Lets give theohall a chance to speak up and get him back to n-2. Where the heck are you theohall?

withdrawal theohall

Why is N-2 so preferable to N-1?
cause he didn't want his partner voted off
That is the same sort of paper thin logic Scoop was using. If Scoop's behavior makes him seem questionable then you should vote him not decide that Theohall is guilty because Scoop acts odd.
Maybe theohall is your partner?

Certainly possible but I don't and won't know until after he dies (or I die and get spoilers). However, I tend to think of everyone as not-my-partner until something happens to make me think differently. This is why RMC currently sticks out to me much more than anyone else due to this comment:

RMC wrote:I assume we are all agents here, so if you all think he's the one, I am right there with you.

theohall · Post by **theohall** » Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:18 am

Scoop20906 wrote:
Remus West wrote:
Scoop20906 wrote:Lets give theohall a chance to speak up and get him back to n-2. Where the heck are you theohall?

withdrawal theohall

Why is N-2 so preferable to N-1?
Uhhh, aren't you the guy that told me that we needed to give a person at n-1 a chance to spill if they are a special? Well, I didn't want to take a chance in someone offing theohall before he had a chance to speak up.

Anyway, he's spoken and didn't claim a special so I am fine with voting for him now.

accuse theohall

No offense, theohall. See ya next game.

No worries... but since I'm not dead yet.

Withdraw Grundbegriff

Scoop20906

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:45 am

theohall wrote:
Scoop20906 wrote:
Remus West wrote:
Scoop20906 wrote:Lets give theohall a chance to speak up and get him back to n-2. Where the heck are you theohall?

withdrawal theohall

Why is N-2 so preferable to N-1?
Uhhh, aren't you the guy that told me that we needed to give a person at n-1 a chance to spill if they are a special? Well, I didn't want to take a chance in someone offing theohall before he had a chance to speak up.

Anyway, he's spoken and didn't claim a special so I am fine with voting for him now.

accuse theohall

No offense, theohall. See ya next game.
No worries... but since I'm not dead yet.

Withdraw Grundbegriff

Scoop20906

It wouldn't be an official OO game unless this happens.

RMC · Post by **RMC** » Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:59 am

Remus West wrote:
Scoop20906 wrote:
Remus West wrote:
tru1cy wrote:
Remus West wrote:
Scoop20906 wrote:Lets give theohall a chance to speak up and get him back to n-2. Where the heck are you theohall?

withdrawal theohall

Why is N-2 so preferable to N-1?
cause he didn't want his partner voted off
That is the same sort of paper thin logic Scoop was using. If Scoop's behavior makes him seem questionable then you should vote him not decide that Theohall is guilty because Scoop acts odd.
Maybe theohall is your partner?
Certainly possible but I don't and won't know until after he dies (or I die and get spoilers). However, I tend to think of everyone as not-my-partner until something happens to make me think differently. This is why RMC currently sticks out to me much more than anyone else due to this comment:
RMC wrote:I assume we are all agents here, so if you all think he's the one, I am right there with you.

Sorry... I am rather new at these games, and this is what got me killed last game.

I also am a lemming.. Guess I need to think these items through a little more. and see what my comments could be perceived as..

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Thu Feb 24, 2011 12:13 pm

stessier wrote:I think tru1cy is still a much better target. With a mere 2 votes, he has drastically increased his participation to something like a post a day. He too has specifically said it wouldn't hurt to off him, meaning not a Special, but still participating. That just screams Wolf to me.

I'm leaving my vote there.

for those very reasons

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Thu Feb 24, 2011 12:37 pm

Lassr wrote:
theohall wrote:
stessier wrote:
theohall wrote:I don't like Scoop's theory.

Qantaga states he has never been a villain on Day One when there is no reason from him to tell us this. Yes, he could be trying to play us, but it doesn't fit this early. Were he a villian, he probably would never mention this and force us to remember or look it up. This seems to convenient an excuse for Scoop to be using.
So you don't like Scoop's excuse is too convenient, but you keep voting for Grund? That seems...odd.

Also, don't forget, one of the Baddies is Mr. Boom. They can get a 1/2 day ahead of us if he goes off without getting shot (and another 1/2 day if we shoot one of our own - oh wait, Backshot isn't playing - we're fine!).
I'm voting for Grund, because was the last one to post. Absolutely no other reason. It is the first day. I find it odd that Scoop is trying to use logic this early. Ask yourself - why would Qanataga voluntarily bring up he has never been a bad guy on OO?? And then ask - why is Scoop jumping on it?

The first one - no reason or he is trying to be especially devious - which I haven't seen from Qantaga.... yet.
The second one - deflect the attention from himself, since he became a target when slim turned out to be Chaosraven's doppleganger.
on the first day with no night kill I'm looking for any kind of logic. Scoop's logic is weak but at least it's something and he got Qantaga to address it. DO I think Qantaga is a bad guy? There is a 25% chance....same for everyone else.

Lassr, you want to finish this thoehall bandwagon off?

Help me, Obi-Lassr, you're my only hope.

theohall · Post by **theohall** » Thu Feb 24, 2011 12:41 pm

You could have just pm'ed that to him, ya know.