Bond II - The Prometheus Dawn - END!

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Sat Mar 05, 2011 10:09 am

Spoilsport

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Sat Mar 05, 2011 10:45 am

This will all be up to the specials (and a big if on the shooter)...

We have scoop quasi-claiming Protector
We have Remus quasi-claiming Seer (with 2 living players he has scanned)

An uncontested Protector, today, is a proven/trusted player.

The Shooter is always proven/trusted.

An uncontested Seer isn't anything at this point (especially due to the Grund kill), but it is still 'something' to turn things on.

Ah.... Good ol' Day 3... I've missed ya, old friend.

10 players.

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Sat Mar 05, 2011 10:49 am

Hey, I'm doing my job.

Chaosraven wrote:Spoilsport

So, you want to be lynched today?

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Sat Mar 05, 2011 12:39 pm

I would prefer not to be lynched at all. If everyone seems to be inclined to do so, perhaps the bad guys won't kill me. It's a fine line, scoopster. Scooparino. Scooptastic.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Sat Mar 05, 2011 1:32 pm

Unagi wrote:This will all be up to the specials (and a big if on the shooter)...

We have scoop quasi-claiming Protector
We have Remus sarcastically mocking Unagi's accusation of him

An uncontested Protector, today, is a proven/trusted player.

The Shooter is always proven/trusted.

An uncontested Seer isn't anything at this point (especially due to the Grund kill), but it is still 'something' to turn things on.

Ah.... Good ol' Day 3... I've missed ya, old friend.

10 players.

ftfy

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Sat Mar 05, 2011 1:34 pm

BTW, I'm good with lynching RMC today. His happy to vote anywhere attitude combined with the everyone is agents comment earlier make me nervous.

In fact,
RMC

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Sat Mar 05, 2011 1:38 pm

BTW, in case my fixing Unagi's post wasn't clear....Do not count on my providing anything.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Sat Mar 05, 2011 2:15 pm

Remus West

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Sat Mar 05, 2011 3:24 pm

You spelled RMC

wrong.

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Sat Mar 05, 2011 3:42 pm

Majority is 6

Scoop (1)- RMC,
Chaosraven (1)- Scoop,
RMC (2) - Remus, Chaosraven,
Remus (1)- Unagi,
--

No votes cast: Quantaga, MSteelers, Tru1cy, Lassr, Stessier,

Lagom Lite · Post by **Lagom Lite** » Sun Mar 06, 2011 10:01 am

RMC · Post by **RMC** » Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:24 am

Remus West wrote:
msteelers wrote:
stessier wrote:I am getting curious about Msteelers. Remus called him out and his response has been - a coma?
Pointing out I was third on both votes was calling me out? I guess I didn't feel threatened enough to respond. With so little participation, I feel like I have nothing to add to the conversation. I don't have a strong read on anybody at this point. I find the reasoning against tru1cy to be weaksauce. "He's too quiet. OMG he posted twice! Guilty!" Qantaga seemed like a good enough vote simply because of the connection someone made between rshetts2 and the WW games over at GT, which I know Qantaga is an active participant in. That train ran out of steam, so I'm going to move my vote simply because this thing needs to start moving at something other than a glacial pace.

Grundbegriff

I wanted to comment on this from yesterday in spite of the big events this morning.
First, why would he need to feel threatened before commenting on his actions?
Second, "with so little participation" is deeply ironic considering he has given us nothing and yet uses it as an excuse to continue giving us nothing.

I find msteelers to be particularly fascinating right now.

So you find msteelers fascinating, but decide to send your vote my way to lynch?

Withdraw Scoop

My main flaw seems to be trusting people. But I have followed Scoop, who you say might be the protector, and for this I am also being lynch'ed?

I think someone doth protest too much, since the main person who followed you is Chaosraven, who has been on the kill twice as well as I.

Remus West

It's only fair, right?

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:22 am

How odd that you would mention Scoop as possible protector in the same post you question why I am not voting msteelers. Perhaps because when a hint is applied with a sledgehammer I notice it? Also, why bring up Chaosraven as equal to you on the kill, or even the end voting? My reference was to you bouncing your vote all over not where it ended up. I haven't looked at the ending votes closely but offhand I would expect more than just the two of you have been in on the "kill". In that respect Chaosraven is more suspicious than you due to being the final vote on both tallies - and before Grund could talk on that one.

All that said, I completely expected you to vote for me when I put mine down.

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:29 am

Newcastle wrote:VOTING IS CLOSED

Truicy (2)- Unagi, stessier,
Scoop (2) - Qantaga, Theohall,
ChaosRaven (1)- Remus West,
Theohall (7) - Grundbegriff, Truicy, MSteelers, RMC, Rshetts2, Scoop, Chaosraven,
Qantaga (1)- Lassr,
-

Majority is 7

No votes cast:

If i missed anything, please let me know.

Newcastle wrote:VOTING CLOSED!

6 Votes needed for Majority

Scoop (3)- Grundbegriff, Remus, Quantaga,
Qantaga (1)- Truicy,
Grundbegriff (6) - Unagi, Lassr, Scoop, RMC, MSteelers, Chaosraven,
Truicy (1)- Stessier,
-

No votes cast:

If I missed anything please let me know

(Once majority reached, its locked)

Write up incoming shortly!

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:36 am

For what it's worth, I've placed my vote and I'm not moving it.

A barely helpful, almost unengaged Remus, is rarely a 'Good Remus'.

Add to that his absurd "8 people left alive" comment....

Remus West

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:43 am

Could it be a dream team of Chaosraven and Remus West and ????

I have been thinking Chaosraven could be the berserker with his voting. With scoops post above showing the voting, Remus places that lone vote on Chaosraven in round 1. Remus gets the count wrong in trying to get us to use the shooter before we find a target through the seer. Could be honest mistakes or could be someone thinking like a bad guy
Remus West

He seems to be the best lead at the moment.

RMC · Post by **RMC** » Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:45 am

Remus West wrote:
Unagi wrote:This will all be up to the specials (and a big if on the shooter)...

We have scoop quasi-claiming Protector
We have Remus sarcastically mocking Unagi's accusation of him

An uncontested Protector, today, is a proven/trusted player.

The Shooter is always proven/trusted.

An uncontested Seer isn't anything at this point (especially due to the Grund kill), but it is still 'something' to turn things on.

Ah.... Good ol' Day 3... I've missed ya, old friend.

10 players.
ftfy

Ahh.. My bad in thinking you had mentioned scoop as the protector. I just saw the post and missed the quotes on it. What does ftfy mean?

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:59 am

RMC wrote: Ahh.. My bad in thinking you had mentioned scoop as the protector. I just saw the post and missed the quotes on it. What does ftfy mean?

fixed that for you

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Mon Mar 07, 2011 11:03 am

This game is so odd. A guy goes away for the weekend and hopes to come back to WW-y goodness and gets less than a page?

We need to stir things up and get people involved again. And what better way than...a threat matrix!!!

Coming soon to a post near you.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Mon Mar 07, 2011 11:39 am

Unagi wrote:For what it's worth, I've placed my vote and I'm not moving it.

That is not going to work out well for you in the long run.

A barely helpful

I resent that.

almost unengaged Remus, is rarely a 'Good Remus'.

Thats odd. I don't think my role has ever really impacted my activity.

Add to that his absurd "8 people left alive" comment....

What can I say, trying to do to many things at once and got befuddled.

Remus West

Silly.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Mon Mar 07, 2011 11:41 am

RMC wrote:
Remus West wrote:
Unagi wrote:This will all be up to the specials (and a big if on the shooter)...

We have scoop quasi-claiming Protector
We have Remus sarcastically mocking Unagi's accusation of him

An uncontested Protector, today, is a proven/trusted player.

The Shooter is always proven/trusted.

An uncontested Seer isn't anything at this point (especially due to the Grund kill), but it is still 'something' to turn things on.

Ah.... Good ol' Day 3... I've missed ya, old friend.

10 players.
ftfy
Ahh.. My bad in thinking you had mentioned scoop as the protector. I just saw the post and missed the quotes on it. What does ftfy mean?

Unagi had listed me a quasi-claiming Seer. I altered his words within the quote. The ftfy was to alert people that I had done that and the quote of him was not fully accurate regarding his original post.

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Mon Mar 07, 2011 11:55 am

Remus West wrote:
RMC wrote:
Remus West wrote:
Unagi wrote:This will all be up to the specials (and a big if on the shooter)...

We have scoop quasi-claiming Protector
We have Remus sarcastically mocking Unagi's accusation of him

An uncontested Protector, today, is a proven/trusted player.

The Shooter is always proven/trusted.

An uncontested Seer isn't anything at this point (especially due to the Grund kill), but it is still 'something' to turn things on.

Ah.... Good ol' Day 3... I've missed ya, old friend.

10 players.
ftfy
Ahh.. My bad in thinking you had mentioned scoop as the protector. I just saw the post and missed the quotes on it. What does ftfy mean?
Unagi had listed me a quasi-claiming Seer. I altered his words within the quote. The ftfy was to alert people that I had done that and the quote of him was not fully accurate regarding his original post.

That actually confused me a bit as well.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Mon Mar 07, 2011 12:56 pm

Well, the point of doing it that way was to try and force folks to go back and look at what he had posted. I hadn't anticipated the "ftfy" as confusing though and just meant for folks to have to look between the two posts to find what I altered.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Mon Mar 07, 2011 1:31 pm

Day 1 - Final Vote Count

stessier acc RMC (1)
Unagi acc RMC (2)
Lassr acc Slim (1)
theohall acc Lassr (1)
RMC acc Unagi (1)
Remus acc Scoop (1)
Remus wd Scoop (0)
Remus acc tru1cy (1)
Unagi wd RMC (1)
Unagi acc tru1cy (2)
stessier wd RMC (0)
stessier acc msteelers (1)
RMC wd Unagi (0)
RMC acc tru1cy (3)
theo wd Lassr (0)
theo acc Slim (2)
Scoop acc Slim (3)
rshetts2 acc Slim (4)
RMC wd tru1cy (2)
RMC acc Slim (5)
Grund acc Slim (6)
Scoop wd Slim (5)
Unagi wd tru1cy (1)
Unagi acc Scoop (1)
Unagi wd Scoop (0)
Unagi acc tru1cy (2)
Qantaga acc Unagi (1)
Qantaga wd Unagi (0)
stessier wd msteelers (0)
stessier acc tru1cy (3)

***Slim becomes Chaos - all votes withdrawn*** (Lassr/Theo/rshetts2/RMC/Grund)

Lassr acc Scoop (1)
Scoop acc Chaos (1)
Grund acc theohall(1)
rshetts2 acc Chaos (2)
theo acc Grund (1)
Scoop wd Chaos (1)
msteelers acc Scoop (2)
RMC acc Scoop (3)
tru1cy acc Unagi (1)
Scoop acc Qantaga (1)
Lassr wd Scoop (1)
Qantaga acc Scoop (2)
Lassr acc Qantaga (2)
Scoop wd Qantaga (1)
Scoop acc theo (2)
tru1cy wd Unagi (0)
tru1cy acc theo (3)
Remus wd tru1cy (2)
Remus acc Qantaga (2)
msteelers acc theo (4)
Remus wd Qantaga (1)
Remus acc Chaos (2)
RMC wd Scoop (1)
RMC acc theo (5)
rshetts2 wd Chaos (1)
rshetts2 acc theo (6)
Scoop wd theo (5)
Scoop acc theo (6)
theo wd Grund (0)
theo acc Scoop (2)
Chaos acc theo (7)
Lassr acc theo <- not counted

Truicy (2)- Unagi, stessier,
Scoop (2) - Qantaga, Theohall,
ChaosRaven (1)- Remus West,
Theohall (7) - Grundbegriff, Truicy, MSteelers, RMC, Rshetts2, Scoop, Chaosraven,
Qantaga (1)- Lassr,

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Mon Mar 07, 2011 1:38 pm

Day 2 - Final Vote Count

Grund acc Scoop (1)
Scoop acc Qantaga (1)
tru1cy acc Qantaga (2)
Remus acc Scoop (2)
msteelers acc Qantaga (3)
Unagi acc Grund (1)
stessier acc tru1cy (1)
Lassr acc Qantaga (4)
Qantaga acc Scoop (3)
RMC acc Qantaga (5)

Unagi / stessier post at N-1 ... Chaos/Grund/Remus do not

RMC wd Qantaga (4)
RMC acc tru1cy (2)
Lassr WD Qantaga (3)
Lassr acc Grund (2)
Scoop wd Qantaga (2)
Scoop acc Grund (3)
RMC wd tru1cy (1)
RMC acc Grund (4)
msteelers wd Qantaga (1)
msteelers acc Grund (5)
Chaos acc Grund (6)
Chaos wd Grund <- not counted

Scoop (3)- Grundbegriff, Remus, Quantaga
Qantaga (1)- tru1cy
Grundbegriff (6) - Unagi, Lassr, Scoop, RMC, MSteelers, Chaosraven
Truicy (1)- Stessier

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Mon Mar 07, 2011 1:42 pm

Day 3 - Current Vote Count

RMC acc Scoop (1)
Scoop acc msteelers (1)
Scoop wd msteelers (0)
Scoop acc Chaos (1)
Remus acc RMC (1)
Unagi acc Remus (1)
Chaos acc RMC (2)
RMC wd Scoop (0)
RMC acc Remus (2)
Lassr acc Remus (3)

Chaosraven (1)- Scoop
RMC (2) - Remus, Chaosraven
Remus (3)- Unagi, RMC, Lassr

No votes cast: Qantaga, msteelers, tru1cy, stessier,

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Mon Mar 07, 2011 1:55 pm

Day 1 - Final Vote Count - Alternate View

stessier acc RMC (1)
stessier wd RMC (0)
stessier acc msteelers (1)
stessier wd msteelers (0)
stessier acc tru1cy (3)

Unagi acc RMC (2)
Unagi wd RMC (1)
Unagi acc tru1cy (2)
Unagi wd tru1cy (1)
Unagi acc Scoop (1)
Unagi wd Scoop (0)
Unagi acc tru1cy (2)

Lassr acc Slim (1)
***Slim becomes Chaos - all votes withdrawn*** (Lassr/Theo/rshetts2/RMC/Grund)
Lassr acc Scoop (1)
Lassr wd Scoop (1)
Lassr acc Qantaga (2)
Lassr acc theo <- not counted

theohall acc Lassr (1)
theo wd Lassr (0)
theo acc Slim (2)
***Slim becomes Chaos - all votes withdrawn*** (Lassr/Theo/rshetts2/RMC/Grund)
theo acc Grund (1)
theo wd Grund (0)
theo acc Scoop (2)

RMC acc Unagi (1)
RMC wd Unagi (0)
RMC acc tru1cy (3)
RMC wd tru1cy (2)
RMC acc Slim (5)
***Slim becomes Chaos - all votes withdrawn*** (Lassr/Theo/rshetts2/RMC/Grund)
RMC acc Scoop (3)
RMC wd Scoop (1)
RMC acc theo (5)

Remus acc Scoop (1)
Remus wd Scoop (0)
Remus acc tru1cy (1)
Remus wd tru1cy (2)
Remus acc Qantaga (2)
Remus wd Qantaga (1)
Remus acc Chaos (2)

Scoop acc Slim (3)
Scoop wd Slim (5)
***Slim becomes Chaos - all votes withdrawn*** (Lassr/Theo/rshetts2/RMC/Grund)
Scoop acc Chaos (1)
Scoop wd Chaos (1)
Scoop acc Qantaga (1)
Scoop wd Qantaga (1)
Scoop acc theo (2)
Scoop wd theo (5)
Scoop acc theo (6)

rshetts2 acc Slim (4)
***Slim becomes Chaos - all votes withdrawn*** (Lassr/Theo/rshetts2/RMC/Grund)
rshetts2 acc Chaos (2)
rshetts2 wd Chaos (1)
rshetts2 acc theo (6)

Grund acc Slim (6)
***Slim becomes Chaos - all votes withdrawn*** (Lassr/Theo/rshetts2/RMC/Grund)
Grund acc theohall(1)

Qantaga acc Unagi (1)
Qantaga wd Unagi (0)
Qantaga acc Scoop (2)

msteelers acc Scoop (2)
msteelers acc theo (4)

tru1cy acc Unagi (1)
tru1cy wd Unagi (0)
tru1cy acc theo (3)
Chaos acc theo (7)

tru1cy (2)- Unagi, stessier
Scoop (2) - Qantaga, Theohall
ChaosRaven (1)- Remus West
Theohall (7) - Grundbegriff, Truicy, MSteelers, RMC, Rshetts2, Scoop, Chaosraven
Qantaga (1)- Lassr

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Mon Mar 07, 2011 2:00 pm

Day 2 - Final Vote Count - Alternate View

Grund acc Scoop (1)

Scoop acc Qantaga (1)
Scoop wd Qantaga (2)
Scoop acc Grund (3)

tru1cy acc Qantaga (2)

Remus acc Scoop (2)

msteelers acc Qantaga (3)
msteelers wd Qantaga (1)
msteelers acc Grund (5)

Unagi acc Grund (1)

stessier acc tru1cy (1)

Lassr acc Qantaga (4)
Lassr WD Qantaga (3)
Lassr acc Grund (2)

Qantaga acc Scoop (3)

RMC acc Qantaga (5)
RMC wd Qantaga (4)
RMC acc tru1cy (2)
RMC wd tru1cy (1)
RMC acc Grund (4)

Chaos acc Grund (6)
Chaos wd Grund <- not counted

Scoop (3)- Grundbegriff, Remus, Qantaga
Qantaga (1)- tru1cy
Grundbegriff (6) - Unagi, Lassr, Scoop, RMC, msteelers, Chaosraven
tru1cy (1)- stessier

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Mon Mar 07, 2011 2:09 pm

Remus West wrote:
Unagi wrote:For what it's worth, I've placed my vote and I'm not moving it.
That is not going to work out well for you in the long run.

says the zerker??

Remus West wrote:
A barely helpful
I resent that.

It's easy to see. You are only pretending to be of any help.... when you are actually good and actually interested in winning, it shows a lot more.

Remus West wrote:
almost unengaged Remus, is rarely a 'Good Remus'.
Thats odd. I don't think my role has ever really impacted my activity.

And I guess you fail to realize that your reply to this actually half admits that you are indeed Evil this game. In any case, just because you 'think' that, doesn't make it true. I have certainly see you play 'Active' as a wolf... but when I see this level of 'gentle participation without too much direction' - it is almost always 'Evil Remus'...

Remus West wrote:
Add to that his absurd "8 people left alive" comment....
What can I say, trying to do to many things at once and got befuddled.

Befuddled counting players from a list of players with a couple names crossed off. I think not.

Remus West wrote:
Remus West

Silly.

I've got two kids under 4 at home.... It's a Silly world.
Remus West

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Mon Mar 07, 2011 2:12 pm

(Near) Death Trains

Code: Select all

Lassr acc Slim (1)
   theo acc Slim (2)
      Scoop acc Slim (3)
         rshetts2 acc Slim (4)
            RMC acc Slim (5)
               Grund acc Slim (6)
            Scoop wd Slim (5)
***Slim becomes Chaos - all votes withdrawn*** (Lassr/Theo/rshetts2/RMC/Grund)

Code: Select all

[*]Grund acc theohall(1)
   Scoop acc theo (2)
      [*]tru1cy acc theo (3)
         [*]msteelers acc theo (4)
            [*]RMC acc theo (5)
               [*]rshetts2 acc theo (6)
            Scoop wd theo (5)
               [*]Scoop acc theo (6)
                  [*]Chaos acc theo (7)
Lassr acc theo <- not counted

Code: Select all

Scoop acc Qantaga (1)
   [*]tru1cy acc Qantaga (2)
      msteelers acc Qantaga (3)
         Lassr acc Qantaga (4)
            RMC acc Qantaga (5)

Unagi / stessier post at N-1 ... Chaos/Grund/Remus do not

            RMC wd Qantaga (4)
         Lassr WD Qantaga (3)
      Scoop wd Qantaga (2)
   msteelers wd Qantaga (1)

Code: Select all

[*]Unagi acc Grund (1)
   [*]Lassr acc Grund (2)
      [*]Scoop acc Grund (3)
         [*]RMC acc Grund (4)
            [*]msteelers acc Grund (5)
               [*]Chaos acc Grund (6)
Chaos wd Grund <- not counted

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Mon Mar 07, 2011 2:15 pm

Majority is 6

Chaosraven (1)- Scoop
RMC (2) - Remus, Chaosraven
Remus (3)- Unagi, RMC, Lassr

No votes cast: Qantaga, msteelers, tru1cy, stessier,

(I think this is right, let me know if there are any mistakes)

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Mon Mar 07, 2011 2:16 pm

Is this going anywhere, stessier, or are you just burying us in your Wolfy paper work again. (Didn't you do this one other game? I'm serious, as a wolf, didn't you once bury eveyone in a million analystical views of the historic votes, all for no reason.... I'm not insisting that's what you are doing here, just asking if you remember that.)

(sorry, I just, always, get so very little from these vote disections)

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Mon Mar 07, 2011 2:30 pm

Unagi wrote:Is this going anywhere, stessier, or are you just burying us in your Wolfy paper work again. (Didn't you do this one other game? I'm serious, as a wolf, didn't you once bury eveyone in a million analystical views of the historic votes, all for no reason.... I'm not insisting that's what you are doing here, just asking if you remember that.)

(sorry, I just, always, get so very little from these vote disections)

Oh, I see, I make a mathematical error which is (sadly all to) common for me in these games and that makes me a bad guy while stessier exhibits a behavior you directly link to being evil yet you carefully state that you are not accusing him. How very selective of you.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Mon Mar 07, 2011 2:33 pm

Unagi wrote:Is this going anywhere, stessier, or are you just burying us in your Wolfy paper work again. (Didn't you do this one other game? I'm serious, as a wolf, didn't you once bury eveyone in a million analystical views of the historic votes, all for no reason.... I'm not insisting that's what you are doing here, just asking if you remember that.)

I might have. That sounds like me.

I actually like doing this. I think it helps quite a bit - well, sometimes anyway. More than one rabbit hole run down, but what else you going to do?

(sorry, I just, always, get so very little from these vote disections)

Perhaps that will change this time.

For instance, when looking back at the votes, I feel that the ones that result in trains have actually gone pretty fast. Day 1 was back and forth and back and forth - but the votes for Slim & theo were pretty quick. Then there was yesterday where the vote for Q was fast - stalled, and then Grund was gone in the blink of an eye.

To me, this indicates at least 2 if not all 3 Wolves were in on those votes. We just don't agree on enough to go that fast because of our lack of information (imo).

So looking back:
Slim - Lassr, theo, Scoop, rshetts, RMC, Grund
theo - Grund, Scoop, tru1cy, msteelers, RMC, rhetts, Chaos
Qantaga - Scoop, tru1cy, msteelers, Lassr, RMC
Grund - Unagi, Lassr, Scoop, RMC, msteelers, Chaos

Common to the Kill Trains - {Scoop, msteelers, RMC, Chaos} (note, you could throw in Lassr as he tried to vote on theo)
Common to three of 4 - {Lassr, Scoop, RMC, msteelers}

I find it also interesting that Q is still alive. If he is human as he claims, then it is interesting because Unagi and I checked in while he was at N-1 while Chaos and Remus did not.

So where does that leave me? I would bet 2 of 3 are in {Scoop, msteelers, RMC, Chaos, Lassr} and wouldn't be at all shocked if all 3 are in there.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Mon Mar 07, 2011 2:39 pm

With that as my theory:

Scoop - seen hints to every special under the sun, not playing scared at all
msteelers - comfortable position on the trains, relatively quiet - Was evil 2 games ago and almost talked himself into an early grave
RMC - never saw a vote he didn't like, newbie
Chaos - replacement player whose posts are covered in blood, not playing scared
Lassr - helpful for the newbie, doesn't like when people re-up their vote, in various positions on each vote, not playing particularly scared

I say we start with one of Scoop/Chaso/Lassr and see where that leads us. I could be pretty easily talked into RMC or msteelers. I don't think anyone else makes sense right now. Which is sad, cause I really want to vote tru1cy.

theohall · Post by **theohall** » Mon Mar 07, 2011 2:48 pm

ftfy = Fixed That For You, RMC

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Mon Mar 07, 2011 2:59 pm

Remus West wrote:
Unagi wrote:Is this going anywhere, stessier, or are you just burying us in your Wolfy paper work again. (Didn't you do this one other game? I'm serious, as a wolf, didn't you once bury eveyone in a million analystical views of the historic votes, all for no reason.... I'm not insisting that's what you are doing here, just asking if you remember that.)

(sorry, I just, always, get so very little from these vote disections)
Oh, I see, I make a mathematical error which is (sadly all to) common for me in these games and that makes me a bad guy while stessier exhibits a behavior you directly link to being evil yet you carefully state that you are not accusing him. How very selective of you.

all too common.

guess ya can't teach an old dog a new trick....

Remus Wolf

I'll 'accuse' stessier when and if I want to. I'll say things like "Im not insisting that's what you are doing here", when I don't feel like engaging both of you at the same time.

And, yes - I see right through your tactic to make it look like if you come up Wolf that stessier must not be one, since you were protesting that I should put heat on him too.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Mon Mar 07, 2011 3:13 pm

Unagi wrote:
Remus West wrote:
Unagi wrote:Is this going anywhere, stessier, or are you just burying us in your Wolfy paper work again. (Didn't you do this one other game? I'm serious, as a wolf, didn't you once bury eveyone in a million analystical views of the historic votes, all for no reason.... I'm not insisting that's what you are doing here, just asking if you remember that.)

(sorry, I just, always, get so very little from these vote disections)
Oh, I see, I make a mathematical error which is (sadly all to) common for me in these games and that makes me a bad guy while stessier exhibits a behavior you directly link to being evil yet you carefully state that you are not accusing him. How very selective of you.
all too common.

guess ya can't teach an old dog a new trick....

Remus Wolf

I'll 'accuse' stessier when and if I want to. I'll say things like "Im not insisting that's what you are doing here", when I don't feel like engaging both of you at the same time.

You imply we both are then why not openly say so.

And, yes - I see right through your tactic to make it look like if you come up Wolf that stessier must not be one, since you were protesting that I should put heat on him too.

My post has absolutely nothing to do with stessier and everything to do with your posts. You are setting up your next patsy with your "this is wolf-stessier behavior but let's over look it for now" bit so that if/when you manage to have me lynched and I show MI6 you have a fall back on the next agent in your sights.

p.s. I have learned some things about to/too and now intentionally get it wrong just to annoy - at least thats my story and I'm sticking too it.

msteelers · Post by **msteelers** » Mon Mar 07, 2011 3:35 pm

stessier wrote:For instance, when looking back at the votes, I feel that the ones that result in trains have actually gone pretty fast. Day 1 was back and forth and back and forth - but the votes for Slim & theo were pretty quick. Then there was yesterday where the vote for Q was fast - stalled, and then Grund was gone in the blink of an eye.

To me, this indicates at least 2 if not all 3 Wolves were in on those votes. We just don't agree on enough to go that fast because of our lack of information (imo).

Normally I would agree with this line of thinking, but both days dragged on with no new information being revealed. I think it's just as likely that people wanted to advance the game along, even if it meant killing an unpowered good guy to do it. I know I certainly did when I switched my vote from Qantaga to Grund. Although if I knew Chaos would come in and kill Grund before he had a chance to defend himself, I would have held back on that vote.

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Mon Mar 07, 2011 3:40 pm

Stessier, I am willing to try any of the people who aren't me you have outlined. But I would like you to look at an alternative angle. Who *didn't* vote for the neardeaths and actual lynches? Who is playing conservatively? And unagi is really piling on Remus... Hmmm