Star Wars WW - Game Over - Rebel Victory

[Lassr]

Lassr - links himself to Stessier. Is there a reason for this?

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Yes.
He put you in the lead. Now if I had gone and placed a vote on another 2 vote person we'd have 2 in the lead.
Plan was to run someone up in votes an see what happened.

[Lassr]

Ok, last thought. When I was at N-1 why didn't Yoda take me out? It seems like he had the time and opportunity. If I take the way BB handled the question about how Yoda would be able to use his power (can say if a certain player is at N-1 then use his power) means to me that there is no Yoda OR Yoda hasn't breached these questions with the Mod which I think is a stretch. Therefore, I think Yoda is not one of the powers in play.

or it happened so fast that even Yoda wasn't quick enough...or for us it could mean you are a rebel/Yoda.

[Scoop20906]

Ok, last thought. When I was at N-1 why didn't Yoda take me out? It seems like he had the time and opportunity. If I take the way BB handled the question about how Yoda would be able to use his power (can say if a certain player is at N-1 then use his power) means to me that there is no Yoda OR Yoda hasn't breached these questions with the Mod which I think is a stretch. Therefore, I think Yoda is not one of the powers in play.

or it happened so fast that even Yoda wasn't quick enough...or for us it could mean you are a rebel/Yoda.

Tis True. Just noting something I noted.

[Scoop20906]

Of course, what one can gather from all of that hinges on your allignment, wouldn't you agree?

Yes. Sounds like your determined to test me. See if my Darth Bieber tour ever comes to your town.

[Scoop20906]

Lassr - links himself to Stessier. Is there a reason for this?

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Yes.
He put you in the lead. Now if I had gone and placed a vote on another 2 vote person we'd have 2 in the lead.
Plan was to run someone up in votes an see what happened.

But...

You mentioned Stessier specifically. Thats actually kind of a different move for you. You can have just voted for me without noting you were following Stessier's vote, correct? You "chose" to link yourself to Stess. Your plan to run someone up the flagpole had nothing to do with that.

[Lassr]

Lassr - links himself to Stessier. Is there a reason for this?

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Yes.
He put you in the lead. Now if I had gone and placed a vote on another 2 vote person we'd have 2 in the lead.
Plan was to run someone up in votes an see what happened.

But...

You mentioned Stessier specifically. Thats actually kind of a different move for you. You can have just voted for me without noting you were following Stessier's vote, correct? You "chose" to link yourself to Stess. Your plan to run someone up the flagpole had nothing to do with that.

Nothing in the posts so far compels me to vote for any particular one in the lead right now.
Since stessier went Scoop then I guess I'll try that route. (Since Scoop is now in the lead then I guess I'll try that route.)

 Scoop 
 

there; I added a line without mentioning Stessier. Both mean the same thing. You are also making a mountain out of a mole hill.

[triggercut]

Ok, last thought. When I was at N-1 why didn't Yoda take me out? It seems like he had the time and opportunity. If I take the way BB handled the question about how Yoda would be able to use his power (can say if a certain player is at N-1 then use his power) means to me that there is no Yoda OR Yoda hasn't breached these questions with the Mod which I think is a stretch. Therefore, I think Yoda is not one of the powers in play.

or it happened so fast that even Yoda wasn't quick enough...or for us it could mean you are a rebel/Yoda.

If you're a rebel, you know you have a reasonable shot at getting Scoop to N, especially when he's got 5-7 votes on him. The time stamps got goofed, but I believe that Scoop had that many votes on him for a good amount of time. You could see the bandwagon forming there a mile away. Yoda needn't be "quick enough" here, unless Yoda is someone who checked out of the game for a few days.

[Lassr]

possible, my vote #4 was around 2:00 yesterday. Server time was fixed a few hours later and no one could post until 10:00 or so. Votes were placed over night to get him to N-1 and then withdrawals started this morning.

[Chaosraven]

So do we back off and analyze?

[triggercut]

So do we back off and analyze?

At this point what I'm left with looking at is Coop & Scoop.

Whomever it was (Unagi?) who pointed out the slip with coopasonic has an avenue worth exploring.

[pr0ner]

coop's play was very weird.

scoop's constant mistakes the past couple of games, plus his hideous avatar, makes him a smart choice, too, if he's on the side of the Empire. If he's a rebel, well, let him live and watch him fail!

[Unagi]

So do we back off and analyze?

Since when do you ask for permission?

[Grundbegriff]

So do we back off and analyze?

Since when do you ask for permission?

Yeah, that's twilight zone material right there.

[Scoop20906]

coop's play was very weird.

scoop's constant mistakes the past couple of games, plus his hideous avatar, makes him a smart choice, too, if he's on the side of the Empire. If he's a rebel, well, let him live and watch him fail!

So pr0ner is saying that if someone thinks I am Empire that I should be killed today but if someone think I'm a Rebel I should be spared today.

And, according to pr0ner's vote he thinks Empire which would mean he is a reb. Why else would a Empire player vote for what he thinks is an Empire player?

Interesting little mistake their pr0ner. That actually deserves a vote more than anything I've done today. In fact, what exactly have I done other than change my avatar?

 pr0ner 
 
I could still vote Remus today as his early game actions seemed kind of defensive (gut call) and Lassr's odd play linking himself to Stessier but when I called him on it he tried to back track. Not sure why he bothered. It only made him look more odd to me.

[Scoop20906]

So do we back off and analyze?

Coming from the guy with the noose around his neck, yeah, you should back off because you are climbing up the wrong tree today. You were asking my opinion, right?

[Remus West]

Scoop, pr0ner was saying that if you are Empire it would be in the best interest of the Empire to kill you because you would make such an epic mistake it would doom us all (maybe he thinks he is killing the guy who designed a moon-sized space station that a single fighter could blow up). He was also saying that if you are a Rebel we should let you live as you would doom them all. I think it was a joke. Which in and of itself is weird from him but is hardly a slip of the nature you are trying to describe it as.

[Scoop20906]

Scoop, pr0ner was saying that if you are Empire it would be in the best interest of the Empire to kill you because you would make such an epic mistake it would doom us all (maybe he thinks he is killing the guy who designed a moon-sized space station that a single fighter could blow up). He was also saying that if you are a Rebel we should let you live as you would doom them all. I think it was a joke. Which in and of itself is weird from him but is hardly a slip of the nature you are trying to describe it as.

You would prefer another target? A military target? Then name the player!

I grow tired of asking this. So it'll be the last time. Who is the hidden rebel?

Still, its good to see you sticking up for pr0ner, Remus. That will be useful info later.

[Scoop20906]

Scoop, pr0ner was saying that if you are Empire it would be in the best interest of the Empire to kill you because you would make such an epic mistake it would doom us all (maybe he thinks he is killing the guy who designed a moon-sized space station that a single fighter could blow up). He was also saying that if you are a Rebel we should let you live as you would doom them all. I think it was a joke. Which in and of itself is weird from him but is hardly a slip of the nature you are trying to describe it as.

You would prefer another target? A military target? Then name the player!

I grow tired of asking this. So it'll be the last time. Who is the hidden rebel?

Still, its good to see you sticking up for pr0ner, Remus. That will be useful info later.

And all jokes aside, now both of you don't make sense. You really think it would make more sense to kill a player on your own team then to kill one from the other side because you feel that player (me) is so bad at these games that he will lose the game for you?

Pr0ner putting forward the idea and then you trying to defend that position? There is something very off there. Anyone else think this is a good idea? If so, then please take me out. I wouldn't want to be the one to blame for your failures.

[Chaosraven]

I ask because we will be looking at the deadline soon enough. ChaosraveN-1 asks no ones 'permission'

[pr0ner]

I see Remus gets what I'm saying, and scoop's missed the plot.

[Scoop20906]

I see Remus gets what I'm saying, and scoop's missed the plot.

Wrong. I got exactly what you were saying. I also think you could be honestly pulling a "pr0ner" or you could be trying to get me killed because your a reb. Either way, yeah, I ain't cool with what you said.

[Scoop20906]

I'm getting a bit frustrated here. To hear that some people actually think I am better off dead than in the game cause I might make an epic mistake is a annoying.

So, let me be frank. I am NOT a rebel. Do NOT kill me. It will hurt our team and give the rebs a better chance to win.

[theohall]

 withdraw Unagi

Scoop20906 
 


Why isn't Scoop willing to take one for the team in order to help us find these rebel scum? Plus the reaction to what is clearly a joke by pr0ner seems a bit too serious. Yes, staying alive is important. However, offing an Imperial should give us some hint to the rebels hiding amongst us. I would prefer to off a rebel, and Scoop's replies are indicative of him being a rebel.

[triggercut]

Scoop, if you're Empire, it definitely hurts our team to mistakenly lynch you...but you got to give us a little more.

[Remus West]

 Withdraw Scoop 
 


He removed the highly offensive avatar.

[Lassr]

wow, Scoop is riled up today.

[triggercut]

wow, Scoop is riled up today.

He is, and I'm trying to figure out if it's Badguy Caught Early Scoop getting riled, or Goodguy Not This Shit Again Scoop riled.

In any event, I have a new suspect, and I like him for straight up Ewok-hugging Rebel. More later.

[triggercut]

Oh, and  Withdraw Isgrimnur 
 


Have a much better suspect than him now.

[Chaosraven]

 withdraw scoop 
 
claiming 'someone'... Triggercut, was your theory that LM could be Yoda?

[Scoop20906]

Scoop, if you're Empire, it definitely hurts our team to mistakenly lynch you...but you got to give us a little more.

Give you what? As far as I can tell my only mistake was changing my avatar to Darth Bieber and you are asking me to defend myself?

[Scoop20906]

 withdraw Unagi

Scoop20906 
 


Why isn't Scoop willing to take one for the team in order to help us find these rebel scum? Plus the reaction to what is clearly a joke by pr0ner seems a bit too serious. Yes, staying alive is important. However, offing an Imperial should give us some hint to the rebels hiding amongst us. I would prefer to off a rebel, and Scoop's replies are indicative of him being a rebel.

Theohall, I'm fine with taking one for the team. if you have noticed up to this point and even when I was at N-1 I didn't scream that I had to stay alive. I looked at my bandwagon and provided useful analysis. Useful to me anyway. I really think there are some opportunistic rebels among the bunch.

I took a bit of exception to a JOKE that the team is somehow better off with me dead because of my spectacular sith power to make mistakes. Thats when I got "riled" as they say.

Am I a good candidate today? Yes

Are there better candidates for today? Depends on how read things.

Am I rebel? No.

Will killing me today hurt the Empire? Yes

[coopasonic]

 Withdraw Scoop 
 


He removed the highly offensive avatar.

 Withdraw Scoop 
 


I've got nothing now. Unagi, Remus or back to Grund. Leaning to Grund.

[triggercut]

I got something.

 Kenetickid 
 


The smell of Rebel is strong with that one.

[bb2112]

Votes

1 Lassr -----------------> Scoop20906
2 RMC ------------------> Unagi
3 Tru1cy --------------- > Unagi
4 Remus West --------->
5 Qantaga --------------> Tru1cy
6 Newcastle ------------> Unagi
7 Mr. Bubbles ----------> Semaj
8 Theohall --------------> Scoop20906
9 Chaosraven ---------->
10 Scoop20906 ----------> Pr0ner
11 Coopasonic ----------->
12 El Guapo --------------> Lassr
13 Lord Mortis ----------->
14 Stessier ---------------> Scoop20906
15 Unagi ------------------> Scoop20906
16 Pr0ner -----------------> Scoop20906
17 Semaj -----------------> Mr Bubbles
18 Kenetickid ------------> Scoop20906
19 Triggercut ------------> Kenetickid
20 Isgrimnur -------------> Newcastle
21 Grundbegriff --------->

Lassr 1 <----------------- El Guapo
Mr Bubbles 1 <----------- Semaj
Unagi 3 <----------------- Tru1cy, RMC, Newcastle
Newcastle 1 <------------ Isgrimnur
Tru1cy 1 <---------------- Qantaga
Semaj 1 <----------------- Mr Bubbles
Scoop20906 6 <---------- Unagi, Stessier, Lassr, Kenetickid, Pr0ner, Theohall
Pr0ner 1 <---------------- Scoop20906
Kenetickid 1 <----------- Triggercut


Majority is 11
Deadline: July 13th 9PM EST

[theohall]

 Withdraw Scoop 
 


No idea where to go now.

[theohall]

Got it. Where has tru1cy been?

 tru1cy 
 

[Remus West]

Why are folks removing their votes from Scoop? Is it because he threw a temper tantrum (albeit a minor one) over pr0ner's joke? If he was a good enough target for you before then what changed that made you think him less a good target?

Here's the thing. I find that on reflection I am disinclined to give someone a pass due to them being upset over something as silly as pr0ner's joke. Unagi put up with crap from the last game. I put up with crap from the Remuscide game. People poke at each other in these games and I would like to believe it is all in fun. Thus the over reaction is one I would like to not reward by vote removal. Scoop has said he is a valid day 1 target and has pretty much admitted to being a normal rather than a special so even if he is Empire his loss hurts less than potentially outing the Emperor or some other important powered. That being the case I'd like to finish the vote on him and thus be able to look at the voting and the withdraws with the knowledge of his true allegiance in hand.

 Scoop 
 

[triggercut]

Why are folks removing their votes from Scoop? Is it because he threw a temper tantrum (albeit a minor one) over pr0ner's joke? If he was a good enough target for you before then what changed that made you think him less a good target?

Here's the thing. I find that on reflection I am disinclined to give someone a pass due to them being upset over something as silly as pr0ner's joke. Unagi put up with crap from the last game. I put up with crap from the Remuscide game. People poke at each other in these games and I would like to believe it is all in fun. Thus the over reaction is one I would like to not reward by vote removal. Scoop has said he is a valid day 1 target and has pretty much admitted to being a normal rather than a special so even if he is Empire his loss hurts less than potentially outing the Emperor or some other important powered. That being the case I'd like to finish the vote on him and thus be able to look at the voting and the withdraws with the knowledge of his true allegiance in hand.

 Scoop 
 

I pulled my vote because I like someone else for Rebel more.

[pr0ner]

And who would that be?

[triggercut]

And who would that be?

Scroll up a bit.