El Guapo wrote:Semaj's post is interesting. If RMC is lynched and comes back rebel, that won't look particularly good for him
Not particularly.
El Guapo wrote:(and consequently, Bubbles would move down on my suspect list).
Let this old veteran-you-can-trust tell ya, that would be a mistake.
IF Mr.Bubbles is a Rebel - He would be OK putting a vote on his fellow Rebel, especially since it looked like this day was either One or the Other... If they are both Rebels, they both wanted to come out 'tomorrow' looking more imperial.
How many times have you been wrong about me before. I'm not sure if you've ever had it right. If you want to continue with this path feel free, but I have vote for more than one rebel. You think this is some intricate plan to establish trust? I don't know what you've been smoking, but pass it over buddy. I want some of it!
“The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.”
Bertrand Russell
eh, that's enough time I think. Grund train's not going anywhere, there's consensus on RMC, there's a case against RMC, and he's had plenty of time to get himself clean.
pr0ner should have been the 8th vote. El Guapo's likely does not count. Not that it matters since we know where we stand with him.
“As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.” - H.L. Mencken
By "does not count" you mean doesn't tell us new information, I'm guessing? Sorry about that - I saw coop's suggesting that pr0ner be the 8th vote, but for some reason I didn't get the rationale (I thought he was just looking for an 8th vote, and happened to pick pr0ner).
pr0ner voted while both Isgrimnur and I were tallying votes, so I called it out specifically after we simulposted what had become inaccurate information due to pr0ner's vote. There is no conspiracy here.
El Guapo wrote:By "does not count" you mean doesn't tell us new information, I'm guessing? Sorry about that - I saw coop's suggesting that pr0ner be the 8th vote, but for some reason I didn't get the rationale (I thought he was just looking for an 8th vote, and happened to pick pr0ner).
Why pr0ner specifically, though?
I wasn't commenting on any player specifically. I was commenting on the voting. His should have been the 8th vote (if I counted correctly). I was thinking the stuff in parenthesis but did not type it. Sorry for being unclear.
“As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.” - H.L. Mencken
heh. As everyone wonders if El Guapo is talking to them. Guess I'm not the only one being unclear.
“As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.” - H.L. Mencken
El Guapo wrote:ah, gotcha. I was just confused, then. But I still matter, dammit! RMC RMC RMC!!!
You could matter, Chewbacca could have ripped somebody's arms off and we might not have noticed yet. *looks around for missing arms* Actually in that case the required votes would drop 1 so nevermind. You still don't matter.
Nice job trying to sneak a vote in there to look good though!
RMC 8 <--------------- Unagi, Coopasonic, Mr. Bubbles, Theohall, Remus West, Isgrimnur, Tru1cy, Pr0ner
Grundbegriff 2 <----- El Guapo, Lord Mortis
Dead:
1. Chaosraven - Day 1 Lynch
2. Stessier - Night 1 Kill
3. Scoop20906 - Day 2 Lynch
4. Lassr - Night 2 Kill
5. Qantaga - Day 3 Choked by Vader
6. Newcastle - Day 3 Lynch
7. Triggercut - Night 4 Kill
Players Remaining 14
Majority is 8
Deadline: Wednesday July 27, 9PM EST
That's no reason to cry. One cries because one is sad. For example, I cry because others are stupid, and that makes me sad.
Why would I stab an Oracle? Wait, what am I saying? Why wouldn't I stab an Oracle? - Belkar Bitterleaf
BCY4920 - You can suck it Johnny Angel.
Everybody seemed to be getting tired. Grundbegriff and a few others were sleeping at the table, and no matter how many times Tru1cy or others poked them, they wouldn't wake up.
RMC stood up and stretched, then announced in a loud voice, after his long nap, "I'm sick of all this bickering. I'm going to take a long bath and think about what has been said here today," and then walked to the Emperor's private bath area.
"Did he even hear what was said here today?" Remus whispered to Mr. Bubbles as RMC was sauntered out of the room.
A few more hours passed in debate, and Unagi said in exasperation, "Where is RMC?! He said he was going to take a bath and then come back with some thoughts."
"Yeah," chimed in Lord Mortis. "That was hours ago, he must be pretty pruney by now. Should we wait until he gets back and hear what he has to say?"
"No," said Tru1cy. "I think 9 hours is enough. Let's just vote for him and get this done."
There was a murmer of ascent and El Guapo gathered the votes. "Hey," El Guapo exclaimed with surprse, "I was going to stick my vote in for RMC too, but we already have eight votes for him. Doesn't look like I need to. Who is going to get RMC to break the bad news to him."
"I will," said Coopasonic, and he marched off toward the Emperor's bath. After a few minutes he returned with a puzzled look on his face. "He's not there."
"What do you mean he's not there?" asked Pr0ner in an annoyed voice.
"Exactly what I said," stated Coopasonic sounding just as annoyed. "I looked for him in the bath and in a few adjoining rooms. I can't find him."
"Find him, NOW!" Unagi bellowed.
Not wanting to make Lord Vader even more angry, everyone jumped up and immediately searched all the rooms. After searching for over half an hour, everyone slowly came to the same conclusion. RMC had disappeared.
There is not a lynch today, and it is now night.
Night: Events happen in turn order
Boba Fett: Who will you protect (once per game)? If successful, you get a free scan the next day.
Grand Admiral Thrawn: Who is worthy of your protection tonight?
Grand Moff Tarkin: Who of the deceased will you scan to learn their true identity?
Han Solo: Will you initiate a block? If so on who?
Rebels: Who will you kill?
Jabba the Hutt: Did you help lynch Solo? If so, then you get a free scan. You will be notified by PM from the moderator.
Emperor: Who will you scan to discern their identity?
Luke Skywalker: Who will you scan for Vader or Mara?
Vader: Who will you scan for Luke?
Rukh: Who will you scan for Thrawn?
Obi Wan Kenobi: Who of the deceased will you scan to learn their true identity?
Talon Karrde: Who will you scan to discern their identity?
Anytime:
Rukh: If you have identified Thrawn, you may interrupt any kill on Thrawn and sacrifice yourself instead.
That's no reason to cry. One cries because one is sad. For example, I cry because others are stupid, and that makes me sad.
Why would I stab an Oracle? Wait, what am I saying? Why wouldn't I stab an Oracle? - Belkar Bitterleaf
BCY4920 - You can suck it Johnny Angel.
One time ability, so I guess we have a bird in the hand, at least.
“The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.”
Bertrand Russell
coopasonic wrote:Well that's one less person that can be Luke or Chewie. That's good, I guess.
Yeah, we knew he wasn't Luke.
Vader wrote:I can tell you all that RMC and Newcastle do not buy their Power Converters at Toshi Station.
It was one of my best lines!
My suspects haven't changed - since, well, I was correct on the last four.
I think it's clear we need to see if there can be a Shot taken tomorrow, (let everyone chime in), and then put the vote back down on RMC - once it's clear no shot can be taken.
Next I would get Mr Bubbles tested. If he isn't Rebel, his imperial status will forever be in great question.
Proven: Chaosraven stessier Lassr triggercut Unagi El Guapo Most Likely Imperial: pr0ner Remus Not as troubled by: Theohall Isgrimnur As I am by: Lord Mortis Coop And what is up with this: KK Grund Highly suspected Rebels: Semaj Tru1cy Mr. Bubbles -RMC- Newcastle Qantaga Scoop
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BTW, this may or may not get me killed but they are not going to kill then spoof me - which is what had me so very confused about living since Grand Moff Tarkin would be so easy for them to spoof.
Night 1 : Chaosraven - no other choice, he wasn't lying
Night 2 : stessier - figured it more important to know who they killed rather than who they were - he was a Royal Guard
Night 3 : nobody - power was blocked as an effect of Leia's stun-bot
Anyone else claims to be Tarkin they need to be lynched and or shot or both. Feel free to improvise and mutilate them a lot.
Only thing I can think of - and this is why I almost held back my role - is that they do not (well, did not anyway) know my role. That's why I said early on that I figured it had to be a panic stun due to Newcastle knowing he was very high on my list of suspects.
“As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.” - H.L. Mencken
Some claim to be things they aren't.
Some claim things they don't deserve.
Some claim to know more than they ever will.
I don't claim anything, because no one would believe the truth anyways.
so.. the fact I was wrong about 1 rebel makes me one?
test me tomorrow then.
Some claim to be things they aren't.
Some claim things they don't deserve.
Some claim to know more than they ever will.
I don't claim anything, because no one would believe the truth anyways.
Remus West wrote:BTW, this may or may not get me killed but they are not going to kill then spoof me - which is what had me so very confused about living since Grand Moff Tarkin would be so easy for them to spoof.
Interestingly enough, Tom Bosley did play Benjamin Franklin in The Rebels.
Semaj wrote:so.. the fact I was wrong about 1 rebel makes me one?
We are used to you getting it right. Sorry. You set the bar.
Actually, no. It's not that you got it wrong about 1 rebel, it's that with 1 day to go you basically said you weren't interested in RMC, you didn't even mention what seemed to be choice B, Mr Bubbles, as a lynch target - but you then listed him at the end of 'pr0ner and LM'... So, it looked like you coming in and trying to make up for not doing anything to save em..
Semaj wrote:I'd much rather see someone else tested over rmc atm...
Lord Mortis for example.
Pr0ner is also pinging my possible baddun radar (but then again, he's the one I am least sure on... has he come out somewhere and I missed it? He's playing a skoch reckless imho).
If I had to guess 3 right now... Pr0ner, LM and Bubbles.
I could go grund, his silence is deafening.
Semaj wrote:test me tomorrow then.
I think we have to finish up with RMC, tomorrow. But really, are you so proud that you need to prove yourself by noose - and give us a miss? That's not like you.
Also, we know with 100% certainty that Remus was an imperial until night 4. If he were Mara Jade and converted before day 3, then she would be a rebel and thus not susceptible to stunning on day 3.
As discussed before, you also have to believe either that Talon Karrde is in the game and scanned Remus, or that the rebels got very lucky.
Given that Remus was in line with the other imperials today and on board the RMC train, I really don't think it's worth serious consideration that he's Mara Jade.
RMC (I strongly suspect he is a rebel )
Bubbles
Semaj
Grund
KK
What troubles me about Semaj's posts/activities this day in particular is not that he was wrong about RMC, BUT: (1) strongly opposed lynching RMC (anyone else) without giving a rationale for not thinking RMC a rebel; (2) his suspect list, Bubbles aside, was questionable (pr0ner has been ringing strongly imperial the whole game); (3) he never cast a vote for anyone, even when we're just a day out.
Hopefully any shot(s) we have will get used tomorrow. Though I'm starting to suspect that Vader was our only shooter, since I feel like any others would have been used before nightfall tonight (but who knows). In any event RMC dies next. After that I'm not sure about whether Bubbles is next or not; Grund and KK's continued silence are both troubling.
Oh, and Coop moved significantly down my suspect list today. Early joiner of the RMC train, while if he were a rebel I don't think he'd want to give that momentum (probably push for a silent who is imperial). Active on the RMC train as well, and also giving consideration to Bubbles. Mortis' early participation on the RMC train is a good sign as well, though he's somewhat more suspicious due to continued rule gaffes and other weird posts (but then, it is Mortis).
Off the top of my head, I don't see anything fishy about Remus' list, but it will bear further investigation.
A re-read. Compare, contrast, see, if there were hints, especially in a different direction, etc.
Well.
Remus was at one point most certainly NOT a Rebel. (stun bot)
The only option for Remus to be someone that would lie about his Imperial Role, would be for him to be Mara Jade.
(so, no change, as that was always there.)
Yeah, it's been a long game with a lot of specials and pages. It's still a long shot, but now that you've reminded me, I recall the whole stun-bot thing.
Tomorrow ought to be nice and short.
Yeah, it's been a long game with a lot of specials and pages. It's still a long shot, but now that you've reminded me, I recall the whole stun-bot thing.