Puerto Rico, Game 01: Transit of Venus: GAME OVER
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Re: Puerto Rico, Game 01: Transit of Venus
Place new colonist in sugar mill.
On to EG.
On to EG.
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Re: Puerto Rico, Game 01: Transit of Venus
I only get 1 colonist, right?
I'll put my new colonist in my indigo plantation.
I'll put my new colonist in my indigo plantation.
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Re: Puerto Rico, Game 01: Transit of Venus
El Guapo wrote:Tobacco, please
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Re: Puerto Rico, Game 01: Transit of Venus
settler on the storage facility please
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Re: Puerto Rico, Game 01: Transit of Venus
Newcastle wrote:El Guapo wrote:Tobacco, please
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Re: Puerto Rico, Game 01: Transit of Venus
If I understand correctly:
I craftsman for + 1 dubloon:
LordMortis: +1 Corn +1 Indigo
Qantaga: +1 Sugar
El Guapo: +1 Indigo
Newcastle: +1 Tobacco
Chaosraven: +1 Corn +1 Sugar
LordMortis: +1 Indigo
If we need to actually go around for this that's fine too. Either way the action is on Qantaga, to take is sugar or to choose his role.
I craftsman for + 1 dubloon:
LordMortis: +1 Corn +1 Indigo
Qantaga: +1 Sugar
El Guapo: +1 Indigo
Newcastle: +1 Tobacco
Chaosraven: +1 Corn +1 Sugar
LordMortis: +1 Indigo
If we need to actually go around for this that's fine too. Either way the action is on Qantaga, to take is sugar or to choose his role.
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Re: Puerto Rico, Game 01: Transit of Venus
No, I have my indigo plantation but not mill manned, so I wouldn't get indigo (or any other resource). I have my two dudes on the plantation and on the quarry. Thought about manning up the indigo production, but decided to have the quarry available instead.LordMortis wrote:If I understand correctly:
I craftsman for + 1 dubloon:
LordMortis: +1 Corn +1 Indigo
Qantaga: +1 Sugar
El Guapo: +1 Indigo
Newcastle: +1 Tobacco
Chaosraven: +1 Corn +1 Sugar
LordMortis: +1 Indigo
If we need to actually go around for this that's fine too. Either way the action is on Qantaga, to take is sugar or to choose his role.
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Re: Puerto Rico, Game 01: Transit of Venus
If I can't get through then I suppose we just to the full go around (remembering that I will get last action and the only real choice for the role)
I craftsman for + 1 dubloon +1 Corn +1 Indigo
craftsman to qantaga
I craftsman for + 1 dubloon +1 Corn +1 Indigo
craftsman to qantaga
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Re: Puerto Rico, Game 01: Transit of Venus
+1 Sugar.
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Re: Puerto Rico, Game 01: Transit of Venus
+1 tobacco
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Re: Puerto Rico, Game 01: Transit of Venus
+1 corn, +1 sugar
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Re: Puerto Rico, Game 01: Transit of Venus
+1 indigo.
Role choice to qantaga.
Role choice to qantaga.
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Re: Puerto Rico, Game 01: Transit of Venus
Trader. Sell 1 sugar for (2 + 1 + 1) 4 dubloons.
On to El Guapo.
On to El Guapo.
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Re: Puerto Rico, Game 01: Transit of Venus
You should get Sugar for 2 Doubloons +1 for Trader Role +1 for the coin sitting on the role.
It's still a good play. Just don't short yourself a coin.
It's still a good play. Just don't short yourself a coin.
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Re: Puerto Rico, Game 01: Transit of Venus
Thanks LM!
I forgot about the coin sitting on the Trader card. I edited my post above to reflect that.
I forgot about the coin sitting on the Trader card. I edited my post above to reflect that.
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Re: Puerto Rico, Game 01: Transit of Venus
I have nothing to sell, I believe. El Guapo sells his tasteful jewelry to tourists, earning no doubloons.
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Re: Puerto Rico, Game 01: Transit of Venus
Qantaga wrote:Trader. Sell 1 sugar for (2 + 1 + 1) 4 dubloons.
On to El Guapo.
I dont think Elg can sell anything...so i'll go...
selling 1 tobacco for ??? (3 doubloons i think)
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Yep.Newcastle wrote:Qantaga wrote:Trader. Sell 1 sugar for (2 + 1 + 1) 4 dubloons.
On to El Guapo.
I dont think Elg can sell anything...so i'll go...
selling 1 tobacco for ??? (3 doubloons i think)
And while we wait to find out if chaosraven sells his corn for 0 I will also sell Indigo for 1.
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Re: Puerto Rico, Game 01: Transit of Venus
No sale from chaosraven
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Re: Puerto Rico, Game 01: Transit of Venus
Then role to El Guapo. (After selling indigo for +1 or a total of 4 douboons)
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Re: Puerto Rico, Game 01: Transit of Venus
I'll take a Tobacco Storage for 3 (5 - 1 quarry - 1 builder privilege)
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Re: Puerto Rico, Game 01: Transit of Venus
So we wait for Grund's update before we start the next action-choosing round, correct?
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Re: Puerto Rico, Game 01: Transit of Venus
And after the rest of us build, as well.
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Re: Puerto Rico, Game 01: Transit of Venus
Chaosraven wrote:And after the rest of us build, as well.
Right, yes, that too.
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Re: Puerto Rico, Game 01: Transit of Venus
small werehouse for 3 doubloons
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Your werewolves are going to live there, I take it?Newcastle wrote:small werehouse for 3 doubloons
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and the same for me.Newcastle wrote:small werehouse for 3 doubloons
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Re: Puerto Rico, Game 01: Transit of Venus
Hospice for 4.
Build to qantaga
Build to qantaga
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Re: Puerto Rico, Game 01: Transit of Venus
Thinking...
While I'm doing so, here's another question:
Grund's "Gentle Introduction" thread says, "Short Beige Buildings (two of each on the Bank Board)." By two of each on the Bank Board, I'm surmising that means that there are no more small warehouses available, correct?
While I'm doing so, here's another question:
Grund's "Gentle Introduction" thread says, "Short Beige Buildings (two of each on the Bank Board)." By two of each on the Bank Board, I'm surmising that means that there are no more small warehouses available, correct?
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Re: Puerto Rico, Game 01: Transit of Venus
Correct.Qantaga wrote:I'm surmising that means that there are no more small warehouses available, correct?
And only one hospice
And only one Tabbaco Storage.
The rest are the same as in Grund's last update.
http://octopusoverlords.com/forum/viewt ... 1#p1867071" target="_blank
Bearing in mind that you are comparatively rich at 6 doubloons, you may want to wait for Grund's update to buy. For instance if a bunch of Coffee shows up you may want to go for the roaster, being the only person in a position to actively pursue coffee. Feel free to ignore the kibbitz. But thinking is good right now. With money in hand now is the time start choosing the direction you want to actively pursue.
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Re: Puerto Rico, Game 01: Transit of Venus
Thanks again LM! I appreciate it.
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Re: Puerto Rico, Game 01: Transit of Venus
LordMortis wrote: Bearing in mind that you are comparatively rich at 6 doubloons, you may want to wait for Grund's update to buy. For instance if a bunch of Coffee shows up you may want to go for the roaster, being the only person in a position to actively pursue coffee. Feel free to ignore the kibbitz. But thinking is good right now. With money in hand now is the time start choosing the direction you want to actively pursue.
That's good advice. Thanks.
I'm trying to think through it, but not having played before, I'm not sure if I'm looking at the shiniest buildings or the more practical ones.
I think I will wait for Grund to show the new plantations before deciding.
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Re: Puerto Rico, Game 01: Transit of Venus
Qantaga wrote:LordMortis wrote: Bearing in mind that you are comparatively rich at 6 doubloons, you may want to wait for Grund's update to buy. For instance if a bunch of Coffee shows up you may want to go for the roaster, being the only person in a position to actively pursue coffee. Feel free to ignore the kibbitz. But thinking is good right now. With money in hand now is the time start choosing the direction you want to actively pursue.
That's good advice. Thanks.
I'm trying to think through it, but not having played before, I'm not sure if I'm looking at the shiniest buildings or the more practical ones.
I think I will wait for Grund to show the new plantations before deciding.
A peer into my brain with your position says:
Strategically, you're looking at us and trying to figure out what we are doing while trying to make that work in to your plan. Essentially there are two paths to victory. Getting to both is the big bonus but rarely works. 1) Start shipping and collecting victory chits. 2) Start building a source of income and build your way to victory. Buying a coffee roaster is making a statement that you intend to buy your victory. It says that you will be seeking to trade to build cash. This would be reinforced later by building something like a hacienda to start settling with quarries before concentrating more regularly on the larger buildings. Otherwise, I'm taking my money and trying to find a way to store goods. With the small warehouses gone I probably go for the large warehouse. Then I start looking for corn or indigo whenever I can find it.
Again feel free to ignore the way I see things. That's just how I think and I think it's got to be hard to see an abstract game through further abstraction of a forum.
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Re: Puerto Rico, Game 01: Transit of Venus
The strategic thoughts are helpful to me too as a new player - it is as you say a bit odd to try to figure this out through a forum. So any strategic thoughts (or a "just FYI, that move is pretty dumb") are appreciated.
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Re: Puerto Rico, Game 01: Transit of Venus
El Guapo wrote:I'll take a Tobacco Storage for 3 (5 - 1 quarry - 1 builder privilege)
that move was pretty dumbEl Guapo wrote:The strategic thoughts are helpful to me too as a new player - it is as you say a bit odd to try to figure this out through a forum. So any strategic thoughts (or a "just FYI, that move is pretty dumb") are appreciated.
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Re: Puerto Rico, Game 01: Transit of Venus
I'm too sloppy to pay attention. Otherwise I would have warned Q to put colonist on Corn and you to start producing indigo or (even if your producing indigo would have cost me the trade that I got to make.)El Guapo wrote:The strategic thoughts are helpful to me too as a new player - it is as you say a bit odd to try to figure this out through a forum. So any strategic thoughts (or a "just FYI, that move is pretty dumb") are appreciated.
From my seat:
This is largely a learning a game for every one but CR and myself and CR is sitting in the "Lordmortis, I can fuck you at every turn and I intend to" seat, so it's going to be even more of learning game, even for me. That is to say the person who goes before you largely holds your destiny in his hands. I can tell you strategically exactly how he's crippling but he would call it whining.
Looking at how raven cripples me and how I react to it is you should look to the person who goes before you. It is strategically my job to screw Qantaga... which I am already unable to begin to do as chaosraven has been too effective in screwing me. OTOH, I had the windfall of EG lack of production. That extra doubloon allowed me to get a hospice. However, the hospice tips my hand and suggests the I will seeking a victory based on shipping and I will never Mayor.
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Re: Puerto Rico, Game 01: Transit of Venus
I was thinking about the indigo production, but then I knew almost for sure that I wanted to build, and without knowing whether we'd produce and sell this turn, I basically could get 1 guaranteed doubloon by manning my quarry, vs. maybe 1 doubloon via producing and selling indigo. Though I would've wounded up denying you the 1 doubloon, as you note.
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Re: Puerto Rico, Game 01: Transit of Venus
If it doesn't hurt your forward movement, as a rule of thumb, I personally would want to have the same resources as the guy who goes after you. It gives you the best chance at trading and allows you to fill ships before the other guy. As corollary to this I actively avoid taking the same resources as the guy who goes before me. Much in the way supreme nozzle, chaosraven took my sugar and avoided your tobacco and then next turn took my corn.Newcastle wrote:El Guapo wrote:I'll take a Tobacco Storage for 3 (5 - 1 quarry - 1 builder privilege)that move was pretty dumbEl Guapo wrote:The strategic thoughts are helpful to me too as a new player - it is as you say a bit odd to try to figure this out through a forum. So any strategic thoughts (or a "just FYI, that move is pretty dumb") are appreciated.
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Re: Puerto Rico, Game 01: Transit of Venus
So basically, me taking Tobacco was a genius masterstroke, just as I planned.
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