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Re: Puerto Rico, Game 01: Transit of Venus

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What are your thoughts/preferences concerning the frequency and format of my end-of-round updates?

What's pointless?
What's unnecessary?
What's useful?
What would you like to see?
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Re: Puerto Rico, Game 01: Transit of Venus

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Grundbegriff wrote:What are your thoughts/preferences concerning the frequency and format of my end-of-round updates?

I'm happy with your current end-of-round updates. I like the pause between rounds. Being my first time, it gives me a chance to evaluate things before the Governorship changes.

I'll let the others comment on what information might not be necessary, or what more is desired. (From my perspective, the more information, the better).
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Re: Puerto Rico, Game 01: Transit of Venus

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well if i have to nitpick...you need to nerf ElGuapo...CR is fine.

1. at the start of each turn might do an updated turn order....ie

Governor LM
-Qantaga
El Guapo
Newcastle
Chaosraven

2. For the trader might indicate what is still available to put in (i am colorblind so not sure what there is space for atm)

3. Turn frequency and youre updating is fine. Youve been very on the ball. The first day zoomed by fast. Do we need to wait for you after each turn? (i realize its preferable and organizationally makes things more neat...so actually probably a good idea).

4. I think you forgot the nuclear strike on El Guapos Tobacco plantations..just thought i'd remind you (i kid, i kid)

5. Informationally i think overall its a good presenation.
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Re: Puerto Rico, Game 01: Transit of Venus

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I'll take craftsman (and the 1 doubloon on it).

I produce 1 tobacco and 1 indigo. As my privilege bonus good (IIRC the bonus good has to be of a type you can already produce, right?), I'll take 1 additional indigo.
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Re: Puerto Rico, Game 01: Transit of Venus

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El Guapo wrote:I'll take craftsman (and the 1 doubloon on it).

I produce 1 tobacco and 1 indigo. As my privilege bonus good (IIRC the bonus good has to be of a type you can already produce, right?), I'll take 1 additional indigo.
All correct.

Production on Newcastle. Or should I say...

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I produce 1 corn & 1 Tobacco
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Trade Status:

Trade House

[tobacco]
[sugar]
[indigo]
[_____]

4=coffee
3=tobacco
2=sugar
1=indigo
0=corn
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much better TY
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produce 1 corn, 1 indigo, 1 sugar
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Re: Puerto Rico, Game 01: Transit of Venus

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I guess that's produce +1 corn and +1 indigo to me
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I think that's +1 corn, +1 sugar for me.
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Settler - Grabbing a Quary
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Governor LM
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Re: Puerto Rico, Game 01: Transit of Venus

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I will take Coffee
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I'll take a manned indigo.
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Coffee, please.
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Re: Puerto Rico, Game 01: Transit of Venus

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El Guapo chooses from among (a) tobacco, (b) indigo, (c) nothing.
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Seems like the easy choice is to take a tobacco plantation, please.
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Re: Puerto Rico, Game 01: Transit of Venus

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Captain.

Ship Corn.
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Ship 1 corn for 1 VP. Boat has 2 of 4 spaces remaining
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LordMortis wrote:Ship 1 corn for 1 VP. Boat has 2 of 4 spaces remaining
2 of 6, actually.
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Ship 1 corn.
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Re: Puerto Rico, Game 01: Transit of Venus

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Qantaga wrote:Ship 1 corn.
Insidious.

El Guapo ships an indigo crate, since that's his only option. 2/8 filled.
By PM to me, Newcastle ships corn, since there's room. Ship 6 is now full.
Chaosraven, by PM, ships sugar next. 2/7 filled on the sugar ship.
LordMortis ships indigo. 3/8 filled on big blue.
Qantaga ships sugar. 3/7 filled.
El Guapo cannot ship tobacco, so he ships his other indigo. 4/8.
Newcastle ships nothing-- there's no tobacco transport.
Chaosraven ships an indigo. 5/8 filled.
El Guapo stores a single tobacco. Newcastle stores a single tobacco.

End of Captain phase. All VPs allotted.

Corn ship is full with 6 and sails. A new, empty sixer arrives.
Sugar shack is shakin' but not bakin'. 3 down, 4 to go.
Speaking of go, Indigo is 3 beans shy of a burrito.
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Re: Puerto Rico, Game 01: Transit of Venus

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Here's the next draw of plantations:
  • sugar
  • corn
  • tobacco
  • coffee
  • indigo
  • corn
That's the end of LordMortis's first governorship. Calculating....
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End of Round 04, the first Governorship of LordMortis.

Banked doubloons are in stacks of 10 or spread, so that's 47.
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History:

Round 01
El Guapo: Settler (quarry); Newcastle (indigo); Chaosraven (sugar); LordMortis (corn); Qantaga (indigo)
Newcastle: Prospector (1)
Chaosraven: Builder(sm sugar); LordMortis (sm indigo); Qantaga (sm sugar); El Guapo (sm indigo); Newcastle (tobacco storage)
LordMortis: Mayor (2); Qantaga (1); El Guapo (1); Newcastle (1); Chaosraven (1)
Qantaga: Prospector (1)

Round 2
Newcastle: Settler (tobacco); Chaosraven (corn); LordMortis (indigo); Qantaga (sugar); El Guapo (tobacco)
Chaosraven: Mayor (3); LordMortis (1); Qantaga (1); El Guapo (1); Newcastle (1)
LordMortis: Craftsman (1 corn, 2 indigo); Qantaga (1 sugar); El Guapo (-); Newcastle (1 tobacco); Chaosraven (1 corn, 1 sugar)
Qantaga: Trader (1 sugar); El Guapo (-); Newcastle (1 tobacco); Chaosraven (-); LordMortis (1 indigo)
El Guapo: Builder (tobacco storage); Newcastle (sm warehouse); Chaosraven (sm warehouse); LordMortis (hospice); Qantaga (office)

Round 3
Chaosraven: Builder (sm indigo plant); LordMortis (-); Qantaga (sm market); El Guapo (sm market); Newcastle (-)
LordMortis: Captain (1 corn, 1 indigo); Qantaga (-); El Guapo (-); Newcastle (-); Chaosraven (1 corn, 1 sugar)
Qantaga: Settler (coffee); El Guapo (tobacco); Newcastle (corn); Chaosraven (sugar); LordMortis (indigo)
El Guapo: Mayor (2); Newcastle (2); Chaosraven (2); LordMortis (2); Qantaga (2)
Newcastle: Prospector(2)

Round 4
LordMortis: Prospector(3)
Qantaga: Mayor (3); El Guapo (2); Newcastle (1), Chaosraven (1), LordMortis (1)
El Guapo: Craftsman (indigox2, tobacco); Newcastle(corn, tobacco); Chaosraven(corn, indigo, sugar); LordMortis(corn, indigo); Qantaga(corn, sugar)
Newcastle: Settler (quarry); Chaosraven (coffee); LordMortis (indigo); Qantaga (coffee); El Guapo (indigo)
Chaosraven: Captain (corn, indigo, sugar); LordMortis (corn, indigo); Qantaga (corn, sugar); El Guapo (indigox2); Newcastle (corn)

Start of Round 05:

Victory Point Chips: obfuscated
Doubloons: 47
Colonists in supply: 68
Colonists on inbound ship: 5
Coffee crates in supply: 9
Tobacco crates in supply: 6
Sugar crates in supply: 7
Indigo crates in supply: 5
Corn crates in supply: 10
Trade House: (1) sugar (2) tobacco (3) indigo (4) ---

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The number on the left is the price in doubloons. For worker capacity and VP value, see the BUILDINGS section above.
As these are acquired, I'll put them under erasure and mark them with the initial of the owner EG, N, C, LM, or Q.

Bank Board
Column 1
(1) [small indigo plant LM] [small indigo plant EG] [small indigo plant C] [small indigo plant]
(2) [small sugar mill C] [small sugar mill Q] [small sugar mill] [small sugar mill]
(1) [small market Q] [small market EG]
(2) [hacienda] [hacienda]
(2) [construction hut] [construction hut]
(3) [small warehouse N] [small warehouse C]
Column 2
(3) [large indigo plant] [large indigo plant] [large indigo plant]
(4) [large sugar mill] [large sugar mill] [large sugar mill]
(4) [hospice LM] [hospice]
(5) [office Q] [office]
(5) [large market] [large market]
(6) [large warehouse] [large warehouse]
Column 3
(5) [tobacco storage N] [tobacco storage EG] [tobacco storage]
(6) [coffee roaster] [coffee roaster] [coffee roaster]
(7) [university] [university]
(8) [factory] [factory]
(8) [harbor] [harbor]
(9) [wharf] [wharf]
Column 4
(10) [guild hall]
(10) [residence]
(10) [fortress]
(10) [customs house]
(10) [city hall]
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Plantations and Quarries Available
Plantations:
  • sugar
  • corn
  • tobacco
  • coffee
  • indigo
  • corn
Quarries:
  • Quarry EG
  • Quarry N
  • Quarry
  • Quarry
  • Quarry
  • Quarry
  • Quarry
  • Quarry
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Re: Puerto Rico, Game 01: Transit of Venus

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I believe there's a Prospector with an extra dubloon, so I'll take

Prospector for 2 dubloons.

On to El Guapo.
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The reason I provide the ASCII boards, too, is that they'll still be findable in the forum if someday I no longer host the photos.
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1: El Guapo
Victory Points: ???
Doubloons: 01
Idle Colonists: 00
Employed Colonists: 06
Crates on Hand: Corn: 00, Indigo: 00, Sugar: 00, Tobacco: 01, Coffee:00
Plantations and workers:
[indigo______________1] [tobacco_____________1] [____________________] [____________________]
[____________________] [tobacco_____________0] [____________________] [____________________]
[____________________] [tobacco_____________0] [____________________] [quarry______________1]
Buildings and workers:
[small indigo plant_____1] [tobacco storage_____1] [____________________] [____________________]
[____________________] [____________________] [____________________] [____________________]
[____________________] [____________________] [____________________] [small market_________1]
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2: Newcastle
Victory Points: ???
Doubloons: 02
Idle Colonists: 00
Employed Colonists: 04
Crates on Hand: Corn: 00, Indigo: 00, Sugar: 00, Tobacco: 01, Coffee:00
Plantations and workers:
[tobacco_____________1] [indigo______________0] [____________________] [corn_______________1]
[tobacco_____________0] [____________________] [____________________] [____________________]
[____________________] [____________________] [____________________] [quarry______________0]
Buildings and workers:
[tobacco storage______1] [____________________] [____________________] [____________________]
[____________________] [____________________] [____________________] [____________________]
[____________________] [____________________] [____________________] [small warehouse______1]
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3: Chaosraven
Victory Points: ???
Doubloons: 00
Idle Colonists: 00
Employed Colonists: 06
Crates on Hand: Corn: 00, Indigo: 00, Sugar: 00, Tobacco: 00, Coffee:00
Plantations and workers:
[indigo______________1] [sugar_______________1] [coffee______________0] [corn_______________1]
[____________________] [sugar_______________0] [____________________] [____________________]
[____________________] [____________________] [____________________] [____________________]
Buildings and workers:
[small indigo plant____1] [small sugar mill______1] [____________________] [____________________]
[____________________] [____________________] [____________________] [____________________]
[____________________] [____________________] [____________________] [small warehouse______1]
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4: LordMortis
Victory Points: ???
Doubloons: 05
Idle Colonists: 00
Employed Colonists: 06
Crates on Hand: Corn: 00, Indigo: 00, Sugar: 00, Tobacco: 00, Coffee:00
Plantations and workers:
[indigo______________1] [indigo______________0] [____________________] [corn________________1]
[indigo______________0] [____________________] [____________________] [____________________]
[indigo______________0] [____________________] [____________________] [____________________]
Buildings and workers:
[small indigo plant_____1] [____________________] [____________________] [___________________]
[____________________] [____________________] [____________________] [____________________]
[____________________] [____________________] [____________________] [hospice_____________1]
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5: Qantaga
Victory Points: ???
Doubloons: 00
Idle Colonists: 00
Employed Colonists: 06
Crates on Hand: Corn: 00, Indigo: 00, Sugar: 00, Tobacco: 00, Coffee:00
Plantations and workers:
[sugar_______________1] [coffee______________1] [____________________][corn________________1]
[sugar_______________0] [coffee______________0] [____________________] [____________________]
[____________________] [____________________] [____________________] [____________________]
Buildings and workers:
[small sugar mill______1] [____________________] [____________________] [____________________]
[____________________] [____________________] [____________________] [small market________1]
[____________________] [____________________] [____________________] [office______________1]
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Governor Qantaga goes for the gold. Role selection on El Guapo.
  • Builder (+1)
  • Captain (+0)
  • Craftsman (+0)
  • Mayor (+0)
  • Prospector (+1) Q
  • Prospector (+0)
  • Settler (+0)
  • Trader (+2)
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Hey El Guapo...if you crafsman i'll do the trader...freeing it up for your go next turn.
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Newcastle wrote:Hey El Guapo...if you crafsman i'll do the trader...freeing it up for your go next turn.
Sure, sounds good.

I'll take craftsman, produce 1 indigo and 1 tobacco, and take a bonus indigo as my privilege.
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Re: Puerto Rico, Game 01: Transit of Venus

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Grundbegriff wrote:
Qantaga wrote:Ship 1 corn.
Insidious.

El Guapo ships an indigo crate, since that's his only option. 2/8 filled.
By PM to me, Newcastle ships corn, since there's room. Ship 6 is now full.
Chaosraven, by PM, ships sugar next. 2/7 filled on the sugar ship.
LordMortis ships indigo. 3/8 filled on big blue.
Qantaga ships sugar. 3/7 filled.
El Guapo cannot ship tobacco, so he ships his other indigo. 4/8.
Newcastle ships nothing-- there's no tobacco transport.
Chaosraven ships an indigo. 5/8 filled.
El Guapo stores a single tobacco. Newcastle stores a single tobacco.

End of Captain phase. All VPs allotted.

Corn ship is full with 6 and sails. A new, empty sixer arrives.
Sugar shack is shakin' but not bakin'. 3 down, 4 to go.
Speaking of go, Indigo is 3 beans shy of a burrito.
I infer from this that new ships do not show up until the end of the captain action? So that once a ship fills up, you can't ship goods on a replacement ship until the next captain action?
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Produce 1 corn & 1 Tobacco
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El Guapo wrote:
Grundbegriff wrote:
Qantaga wrote:Ship 1 corn.
Insidious.

El Guapo ships an indigo crate, since that's his only option. 2/8 filled.
By PM to me, Newcastle ships corn, since there's room. Ship 6 is now full.
Chaosraven, by PM, ships sugar next. 2/7 filled on the sugar ship.
LordMortis ships indigo. 3/8 filled on big blue.
Qantaga ships sugar. 3/7 filled.
El Guapo cannot ship tobacco, so he ships his other indigo. 4/8.
Newcastle ships nothing-- there's no tobacco transport.
Chaosraven ships an indigo. 5/8 filled.
El Guapo stores a single tobacco. Newcastle stores a single tobacco.

End of Captain phase. All VPs allotted.

Corn ship is full with 6 and sails. A new, empty sixer arrives.
Sugar shack is shakin' but not bakin'. 3 down, 4 to go.
Speaking of go, Indigo is 3 beans shy of a burrito.
I infer from this that new ships do not show up until the end of the captain action? So that once a ship fills up, you can't ship goods on a replacement ship until the next captain action?
i believe thats correct
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El Guapo wrote:I infer from this that new ships do not show up until the end of the captain action? So that once a ship fills up, you can't ship goods on a replacement ship until the next captain action?
That's correct. Emptying the full ship(s), if any, is the final act of the person who selects Captain.
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I'll assume the following production. Correct me if you've decided not to produce your current max:

El Guapo: indigo, indigo, tobacco
Newcastle: corn, tobacco
Chaosraven: corn, indigo, sugar
LordMortis: corn, indigo
Qantaga: corn, sugar

For his turn, Newcastle (by PM) takes Trader (and the 2 doubloons). He trades his newly produced corn, filling the final spot on the Trade House. Since there's no more room, the Trader turn ends with Newcastle emptying the Trade House. 4 crates are returned to the general supply.

It is now Chaosraven's turn to select:
  • Builder (+1)
  • Captain (+0)
  • Craftsman (+0) EG
  • Mayor (+0)
  • Prospector (+1) Q
  • Prospector (+0)
  • Settler (+0)
  • Trader (+2) N
A word on "final acts". The person who selects a placard/role often has a final act to perform. The final acts are as follows:

Builder: none
Captain: dump any full ships back into supply
Craftsman: take from supply a bonus crate, if available, of a kind he can produce
Mayor: repopulate the incoming ship
Prospector: none
Settler: discard the unclaimed plantations and deal a new set
Trader: dump the Trade House, if it's full, back into suplly

Note that the Craftsman's final duty is also his perq; he runs the risk of having no bonus (if all crates of his kind(s) are already in play).
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Re: Puerto Rico, Game 01: Transit of Venus

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i get a total of 3 doubloons right Grund?
- 2 for there being bonus doubloons;
-1 for trading an item and being the "trader" originator.
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Re: Puerto Rico, Game 01: Transit of Venus

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Newcastle wrote:i get a total of 3 doubloons right Grund?
- 2 for there being bonus doubloons;
-1 for trading an item and being the "trader" originator.
Correct. You get the Trader bonus plus whatever was resting on the card.
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Re: Puerto Rico, Game 01: Transit of Venus

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Grundbegriff wrote:I

For his turn, Newcastle (by PM) takes Trader (and the 2 doubloons). He trades his newly produced corn, filling the final spot on the Trade House. Since there's no more room, the Trader turn ends with Newcastle emptying the Trade House. 4 crates are returned to the general supply.
Oh, I didn't know this. I had assumed that it would empty and the trader round would continue - might have chosen a different action. But I guess I should have inferred this from how captain works.
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Re: Puerto Rico, Game 01: Transit of Venus

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El Guapo wrote:
Grundbegriff wrote: Since there's no more room, the Trader turn ends with Newcastle emptying the Trade House.
Oh, I didn't know this. I had assumed that it would empty and the trader round would continue - might have chosen a different action. But I guess I should have inferred this from how captain works.

I was wondering why you were so willing to follow Newcastle's request and gift him with 3 dubloons.
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Re: Puerto Rico, Game 01: Transit of Venus

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In his defense, I think Newcastle's offer did state that the empty Trade House would be there for you, and it is! Next round.... ;)
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