Puerto Rico, Game 01: Transit of Venus: GAME OVER

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 11:57 am

Newcastle wrote:Lets wait before proceeding so we can have all the new relevant info serve as a block between governorships. Will make it easier to understand the current state of play and will help Grund process stuff when he gets back. Just makes it neater.

Makes sense - thanks for compiling.

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 12:06 pm

summary

Q's Governorship

Q - Trader-
Q = -1 Coffee + 6 Doubloons
EG = -1 Sugar + 3 Doubloons
NC = -1 tobacco + 5 doubloons
CR = -1 indigo + 1 doubloon

Trade house now empty.

ELG BUILDER - Coffee Roaster for 4 doubloons (6 - 1 quarry - 1 privilege),= 6 db left
Newcastle - City Hall (10-1 quarry = 9) = 0 db left
CR - University for me.= 0 db left
LM - Pass = 1 in bank
Qantaga - Large Market for 4 db (5 -quarry).= 7 DB left

NEWC - Captain

NC -1 corn,-1 tobacco = +3 VP +2 Doubloon
CR -1 sugar = 1 VP
Q -2 corn, -1 sugar = +3 VP
EG -1 Corn = 1 VP
LM -3 corn -2 Indigo(Wharf) = 5 VP

CR - PROSPECTOR +2 DB

LM - Prospector +2 DB

END PLAYERS TURN

SHIPS
Sugar 2/6
0/7
Tobacco 5/8

Players GOODS:

NC Crates on Hand: Corn: 00, Indigo: 00, Sugar: 00, Tobacco: 00, Coffee:00
CR Crates on Hand: Corn: 02, Indigo: 01, Sugar: 00, Tobacco: 00, Coffee:00
LM Crates on Hand: Corn: 00, Indigo: 00, Sugar: 00, Tobacco: 00, Coffee:00
Q Crates on Hand: Corn: 00, Indigo: 00, Sugar: 00, Tobacco: 00, Coffee:00
EG Crates on Hand: Corn: 00, Indigo: 01, Sugar: 00, Tobacco: 00, Coffee:00

Supplies

Coffee crates in supply: 9/9
Tobacco crates in supply: 4/9
Sugar crates in supply: 9/11
Indigo crates in supply: 9/11
Corn crates in supply: 8/10

• Builder (+0) EG
• Captain (+2) NC
• Craftsman (+0)
• Mayor (+0)
• Prospector (+1) LM
• Prospector (+1) Q
• Settler (+0)
• Trader (+0) Q

Doubloons: 34 (at start of turn)
Doubloons 48 (at end of turn)

Players Doubloons at end of turn

ELG - 6
New - 2
CR - 2
LM - 3
Q - 7

Colonists in supply: 46
Colonists on inbound ship: 5

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 12:06 pm

El Guapo wrote:
Newcastle wrote:Lets wait before proceeding so we can have all the new relevant info serve as a block between governorships. Will make it easier to understand the current state of play and will help Grund process stuff when he gets back. Just makes it neater.
Makes sense - thanks for compiling.

actually youre compilations helped a lot through the game.

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 12:08 pm

Couple of notes
- a cumulative db count should be posted....the builder segment is current as of that moment, except for LM because he passed

Question
- are doubloons a finite source? Once we go through the 34 of them do we not get more? Reason am asking because of having to keep track of all that is coming into the players hands and all that is going out via expenditures is a bit of a process.

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 12:13 pm

I've never seen us run out Doubloons but I was wondering the same thing. They probably are but I can't imagine a situation where it ever would matter.

(and oh yeah, I feel for you. Doubloon/crate moving was ugly for me.)

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 12:13 pm

I'll let everyone else check my data that i've put forth. Does anyone else want to set up the asci stuff? Or should I?

Also at the start of the turn we should do a pictorial post of the boards (the photo things) just for reference purposes.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 12:14 pm

I'm assuming that they are, but that spent doubloons go back into the pot, right? Like it's not like once we go through 34 more doubloons, no one can get any more money, right?

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 12:15 pm

I can update the ASCII boards

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 12:19 pm

Is it ok if i skip the +/- aspect of the doubloon count? (laziness and not looking forward to bean counting) Or should i keep that up to date as possible?

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 12:20 pm

Newcastle wrote:Is it ok if i skip the +/- aspect of the doubloon count? (laziness and not looking forward to bean counting) Or should i keep that up to date as possible?

I think so, so long as people agree that their personal final count is OK. I know I'm at 3.

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 12:21 pm

LordMortis wrote:
Newcastle wrote:Is it ok if i skip the +/- aspect of the doubloon count? (laziness and not looking forward to bean counting) Or should i keep that up to date as possible?
I think so, so long as people agree that their personal final count is OK. I know I'm at 3.

meh i did it real quick.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 12:21 pm

1: El Guapo
Victory Points: ???
Doubloons: 06
Idle Colonists: 00
Employed Colonists: 10
Crates on Hand: Corn: 00, Indigo: 01, Sugar: 00, Tobacco: 00, Coffee:00
Plantations and workers:
[indigo______________1] [tobacco_____________1] [sugar______________1] [corn________________1]
[____________________] [tobacco_____________0] [____________________] [____________________]
[____________________] [tobacco_____________0] [coffee______________0] [quarry______________1]
Buildings and workers:
[small indigo plant_____1] [tobacco storage_____1] [small sugar mill______1] [Factory_____________1]
[Coffee Roaster_______0] [____________________] [____________________] [____________________]
[____________________] [____________________] [____________________] [small market_________1]
°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°

2: Newcastle
Victory Points: ???
Doubloons: 02
Idle Colonists: 00
Employed Colonists: 08
Crates on Hand: Corn: 00, Indigo: 00, Sugar: 00, Tobacco: 00, Coffee:00
Plantations and workers:
[tobacco_____________1] [indigo______________0] [coffee______________0] [corn_______________1]
[tobacco_____________0] [____________________] [coffee______________0] [sugar_______________0]
[____________________] [____________________] [____________________] [quarry______________1]
Buildings and workers:
[tobacco storage______2] [Sm Indigo___________0] [____________________] [large market_________1]
[City Hall ____________0] [City Hall____________x] [____________________] [office_______________1]
[____________________] [____________________] [____________________] [small warehouse______1]
°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°

3: Chaosraven
Victory Points: ???
Doubloons: 02
Idle Colonists: 00
Employed Colonists: 09
Crates on Hand: Corn: 01, Indigo: 02, Sugar: 00, Tobacco: 00, Coffee:00
Plantations and workers:
[indigo______________1] [sugar_______________1] [coffee______________1] [corn_______________1]
[____________________] [sugar_______________0] [____________________] [corn_______________1]
[tobacco storage______0] [____________________] [_____________________] [corn_______________0]
Buildings and workers:
[small indigo plant____1] [small sugar mill______1] [Coffee Roaster_________1] [University__________0]
[____________________] [____________________] [____________________] [____________________]
[____________________] [____________________] [____________________] [small warehouse______1]
°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°

4: LordMortis
Victory Points: ???
Doubloons: 03
Idle Colonists: 00
Employed Colonists: 12
Crates on Hand: Corn: 00, Indigo: 00, Sugar: 00, Tobacco: 00, Coffee:00
Plantations and workers:
[indigo______________1] [indigo______________0] [____________________] [corn________________1]
[indigo______________1] [____________________] [____________________] [corn________________1]
[indigo______________1] [____________________] [quarry______________1] [corn________________1]
Buildings and workers:
[small indigo plant_____1] [small sugar mill______0] [____________________] [___________________]
[large indigo plant_____1] [____________________] [____________________] [____________________]
[____________________] [Construction Hut_____1] [Wharf______________1] [hospice_____________1]
°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°

5: Qantaga
Victory Points: ???
Doubloons: 07
Idle Colonists: 00
Employed Colonists: 10
Crates on Hand: Corn: 00, Indigo: 00, Sugar: 00, Tobacco: 00, Coffee:00
Plantations and workers:
[sugar_______________1] [coffee______________1] [____________________][corn________________1]
[sugar_______________0] [coffee______________1] [____________________] [corn________________0]
[sugar_______________0] [____________________] [____________________] [quarry______________1]
Buildings and workers:
[small sugar mill______1] [coffee roaster______2] [Large Market___________0] [____________________]
[____________________] [____________________] [____________________] [small market________1]
[____________________] [____________________] [____________________] [office______________1]
°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°[/quote]

Everyone should definitely check in case I missed something.

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 12:31 pm

My board looks good.

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 12:39 pm

i think my guild hall will take up 3 slots in my "buildings" area....i think. I think there is a rule/game aspect...that everyone has a set amount of building space and when filled that ends the game.

I think it should look like this:
Buildings and workers:
[tobacco storage______2] [City Hall ____________0] [____________________] [large market_________1]
[Sm Indigo___________0] [City Hall____________0] [____________________] [office_______________1]
[____________________] [City hall ____________0] [____________________] [small warehouse______1]

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 12:45 pm

it takes up two slots (but only requires one colonist to man) so maybe something like this:

[tobacco storage______2] [City Hall ____________0] [____________________] [large market_________1]
[Sm Indigo___________0] [City Hall ____________x] [____________________] [office_______________1]
[____________________] [____________________] [____________________] [small warehouse______1]

But yes, the game will end if one person finished their buildings area (or if run out of VPs or if we run out out of colonists or if all of the 10 point buildings are purchased). Given the way alll y'all are gaining and going through doubloons, I would guess the last condition is the one that will end the game.

Once one condition is met I believe we finish the full game round.

Edit:

building all large buildings does not end the game as I thought it did but finishing all 12 spaces does, just as you stated.

http://www.fwtwr.com/fwtwr/puerto_rico/ ... me_end.asp" target="_blank

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 12:58 pm

Made Mortis' suggestion of the "x" in the second City Hall spot.

So, time for me to exercise unbridled executive power:

DAWN OF THE ETERNAL GOVERNORSHIP OF EL GUAPO MAGNIFICO:

• Builder (+0)
• Captain (+0)
• Craftsman (+1)
• Mayor (+1)
• Prospector (+0)
• Prospector (+0)
• Settler (+1)
• Trader (+0)

SHIPS
Sugar 2/6
0/7
Tobacco 5/8

TRADE HOUSE: [Empty], [Empty], [Empty], [Empty]

Supplies

Coffee crates in supply: 9/9
Tobacco crates in supply: 4/9
Sugar crates in supply: 9/11
Indigo crates in supply: 9/11
Corn crates in supply: 8/10

Plantations:

coffee
coffee
sugar
indigo
tobacco
indigo

Quarries:

QuarryEG
QuarryN
Quarry LM
Quarry Q
Quarry
Quarry
Quarry
Quarry

I'll take Mayor (and 1 doubloon with it, for a total of 7 doubloons). I'll put one colonist on my coffee plantation and one bonus colonist on my coffee roaster.

Which puts it to Newcastle for mayor choice.

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 1:10 pm

1 ON MY Tobacco plantation

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 1:10 pm

LM - what happens if we run out of plantation room?

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 1:15 pm

Newcastle wrote:LM - what happens if we run out of plantation room?

You can't build any more plantations if you use all of the plantation spaces. That's not likely to happen unless you take an early hacienda.

Also EG mayored, rather than settled. We're just deciding where our colonists go.

When it comes to me I will put a 2nd colonist in my Large Indigo factory. Leaving two open building spots. (one in the large Indigo factory and one in the small sugar mill)

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 1:17 pm

Aye, i know what he did turn wise. Was a question that randomly popped to my head. I did mean i wanted 1 of my guys on my wacky tobacky farm.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 1:17 pm

FYI I have three open building spots (2 in my tobacco storage, 1 in my coffee roaster).

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 1:20 pm

ELG - maybe you should add to the governor summary:

SHIPS
Sugar 2/6
0/7
Tobacco 5/8

Supplies

Coffee crates in supply: 9/9
Tobacco crates in supply: 4/9
Sugar crates in supply: 9/11
Indigo crates in supply: 9/11
Corn crates in supply: 8/10

Plantations:

coffee
coffee
sugar
indigo
tobacco
indigo

Quarries:

Quarry EG
Quarry N
Quarry LM
Quarry Q
Quarry
Quarry
Quarry
Quarry

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 1:31 pm

Done.

Qantaga · Post by **Qantaga** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 1:38 pm

I know it's Chaos' turn, but put my colonist in my large market when my turn rolls around.

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 1:51 pm

On my University plz

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:03 pm

If I understand:

46 colonists.

EG = 3 (Two tobacco, one coffee)
NC = 3 (City Hall, Small Indigo, Tobacco Storage)
CR = 1 (coffee)
LM = 2 (Large Indigo, Small Sugar Mill)
Q = 0

9 colonists board the ship.

46 - 1 for privileged - 9 for reload = 36 colonists remaining waiting to come over not on the ship. (Possibly less with all my colonists coming over to man my plantations)

Newcastle's role.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:05 pm

For Newcastle:

• Builder (+0)
• Captain (+0)
• Craftsman (+1)
• Mayor (+1) EG
• Prospector (+0)
• Prospector (+0)
• Settler (+1)
• Trader (+0)

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:06 pm

Summary:

ELG - 1- coffee plantation; 1 bonus colonist coffee roaster.
NEW - 1 on Tobacco Plantation
CR - 1 on University
LM - 1 Large Indigo
Q - 1 large market

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:07 pm

Settler

1 Tobacco Plantation please
+1 Doubloon

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:11 pm

Plantations:

coffee
coffee
sugar
indigo
tobacco NC
indigo

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:15 pm

I just realized we need an updated Builders list

Bank Board
Column 1
(1) [small indigo plant LM] [small indigo plant EG] [small indigo plant C] [small indigo plant N]
(2) [small sugar mill C] [small sugar mill Q] [small sugar mill LM] [small sugar mill EG]
(1) [small market Q] [small market EG]
(2) [hacienda] [hacienda]
(2) [construction hut LM] [construction hut]
(3) [small warehouse N] [small warehouse C]
Column 2
(3) [large indigo plant LM] [large indigo plant] [large indigo plant]
(4) [large sugar mill] [large sugar mill] [large sugar mill]
(4) [hospice LM] [hospice]
(5) [office Q] [office N]
(5) [large market N] [large market] Q
(6) [large warehouse] [large warehouse]
Column 3
(5) [tobacco storage N] [tobacco storage EG] [tobacco storage]
(6) [coffee roaster C] [coffee roaster Q] [coffee roaster] ELG
(7) [university] CR [university]
(8) [factory EG] [factory]
(8) [harbor] [harbor]
(9) [wharf LM] [wharf]
Column 4
(10) [guild hall]
(10) [residence]
(10) [fortress]
(10) [customs house]
(10) [city hall] NC

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:35 pm

Coffee for me

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:39 pm

Wow. Didn't see that coming. Of course if I didn't take and man the Construction Hut that may have been different.

I take a manned sugar plantation.

To Q

Qantaga · Post by **Qantaga** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:12 pm

Coffee

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:20 pm

Hmmm, indigo or indigo, such tempting choices.

I'll take indigo.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:21 pm

Summary:

Newcastle - Tobacco
Chaosraven - Coffee
Mortis - manned sugar
Qantaga - coffee
Guapo - Indigo

Leaves an indigo plantation in the pool.

That puts us on Chaosraven to choose an action:

• Builder (+0)
• Captain (+0)
• Craftsman (+1)
•Mayor (+1)EG
• Prospector (+0)
• Prospector (+0)
• Settler (+1) NC
• Trader (+0)

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:04 pm

Trader. Trade indigo for 1 + 1priv.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:09 pm

Heh, interesting. Unless I'm missing something I'm the only other person with a crate, and since that is indigo and I don't have an office, I can't trade either. So...that brings us to Mortis' choice of action.

• Builder (+0)
• Captain (+0)
• Craftsman (+1)
•Mayor (+1) EG
• Prospector (+0)
• Prospector (+0)
• Settler (+1) NC
• Trader (+0) CR

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:01 pm

Wow. Just did the math on craftsmanning and as much as I want to, suck. Warrior should have manned a quarry instead.

prospect for 1 doubloon.

Role choice on Q.

Qantaga · Post by **Qantaga** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:30 pm

Builder

Harbor for 6 doubloons (8 - priv - quarry).