The Empire Strikes Back - Empire Victory

theohall · Post by **theohall** » Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:27 am

I will be happy to vote for Lagom Lite. Just want to wait a bit, since I was again wrong when pushing for a vote and he his already at N-3.

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:38 am

Hmm. Why have we not lost already?

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:41 am

Chaosraven wrote:Hmm. Why have we not lost already?

One or more of the following:

1) Imperials have been chosen as targets
2) Imperials have not coordinated
3) rmc and unagi have not checked in
4) Remus is lying

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:43 am

Lagom at N-3. hmmm

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:45 am

BTW, I don't see remus is lying as a good option. If he is imperial lying to over estimate the imperials is a stupid play that I don't think he'd ever make. And if he ever did think there might be a reason to over state the imperial case, I think they'd reel him in.

theohall · Post by **theohall** » Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:51 am

LordMortis wrote:BTW, I don't see remus is lying as a good option. If he is imperial lying to over estimate the imperials is a stupid play that I don't think he'd ever make. And if he ever did think there might be a reason to over state the imperial case, I think they'd reel him in.

1) Why would the Imperials leave C3P0 alive as the only other powered Rebel besides you, LM? We know Vader will just force choke you when the numbers are right, or is he about to be lynched.
2) Where is RW's scan for today?

Something smells.

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:55 am

theohall wrote:
LordMortis wrote:BTW, I don't see remus is lying as a good option. If he is imperial lying to over estimate the imperials is a stupid play that I don't think he'd ever make. And if he ever did think there might be a reason to over state the imperial case, I think they'd reel him in.
1) Why would the Imperials leave C3P0 alive as the only other powered Rebel besides you, LM? We know Vader will just force choke you when the numbers are right, or is he about to be lynched.
2) Where is RW's scan for today?

Something smells.

He said he looked for Mara and found her, thereby proving rmc if he is C3PO, with the only problem being it's too late to test his find.

So I agree that it smells, but for different reasons.

theohall · Post by **theohall** » Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:04 pm

If Remus West is C3P0 and not playing us....

Rebels:
RMC - Mara
LordMortis - Wedge
Remus West - C3P0

4 of the following are Imperials on of which is Vader.

Isgrimnur
Lassr
Mr. Bubbles
Chaosraven
Theohall
Unagi
Lagom Lite

I know I am a Citizen.
I believe Unagi is a Rebel citizen with the way he has played this game.

Which leaves 4 of these 5 as Imperial:

Isgrimnur
Lassr
Mr. Bubbles
Chaosraven
Lagom Lite

Why haven't we lost yet? My guess is Vader is their only shot and if he force chokes, he gets lynched. Which leaves the numbers 8 total with 3 Imperials and the hunt would continue.

My 4: Lagom Lite, Chaosraven, Mr. Bubbles, and Isgrimnur.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:07 pm

Remus West wrote:
Mr Bubbles wrote:I'd be willing to switch over to Chaos. He's second on my list after Lagom, but he's moved up significantly in the last two days or so.
This I agree with.

I actually agree too.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:07 pm

but I have trouble siding with either of you right now.

theohall · Post by **theohall** » Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:14 pm

Noting that Mr Bubbles and Isgrimnur have already started the vote on Lagom Lite, may have to re-think the 4 Imperials. It's like they want us to rush into a vote on LL, because others have suspected him so much.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:18 pm

theohall wrote:If Remus West is C3P0 and not playing us....

Rebels:
RMC - Mara
LordMortis - Wedge
Remus West - C3P0

4 of the following are Imperials on of which is Vader.

Isgrimnur
Lassr
Mr. Bubbles
Chaosraven
Theohall
Unagi
Lagom Lite

I know I am a Citizen.
I believe Unagi is a Rebel citizen with the way he has played this game.

Which leaves 4 of these 5 as Imperial:

Isgrimnur
Lassr
Mr. Bubbles
Chaosraven
Lagom Lite

Why haven't we lost yet? My guess is Vader is their only shot and if he force chokes, he gets lynched. Which leaves the numbers 8 total with 3 Imperials and the hunt would continue.

My 4: Lagom Lite, Chaosraven, Mr. Bubbles, and Isgrimnur.

Well.

There was a point in this game where I never in my life thought I'd be saying this.

I agree with Theo.

I think our last are:
Lagom Lite, Chaosraven, Mr. Bubbles, and Isgrimnur

Or Remus is lying. fuck.

Absolutely - we have wolves willing to vote for their fellow wolf at this point.

My main reason for finding Lassr unlikely to be a wolf - is that it seems like Lagom (and, damn, it was Remus.... grrr) was trying to get us to hit Lassr, instead of Scoop.

Also - I'm apparently willing to just ignore this guy on my shoulder yelling to me that Remus is evil...

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:20 pm

theohall wrote:Noting that Mr Bubbles and Isgrimnur have already started the vote on Lagom Lite, may have to re-think the 4 Imperials. It's like they want us to rush into a vote on LL, because others have suspected him so much.

There are all sorts of 'triangulations' that are not working out right now for me.

I think it's almost a given that some wolves would be trying to get a little credit at this juncture - if they are not in a position to win it today, and that's what is making things seem off.

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:49 pm

Put lassr in place of my name and I may agree.

bb2112 · Post by **bb2112** » Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:54 pm

Day 9 Vote

1. Isgrimnur ---------------> Lagom Lite
2. RMC --------------------->
3. Lassr -------------------->
4. Mr. Bubbles -------------> Lagom Lite
5. Chaosraven ------------->
6. Remus West ------------> Lagom Lite
7. Theohall --------------->
8. Lord Mortis ----------->
9. Unagi ------------------>
10. Lagom Lite -----------> Lassr

3 Lagom Lite <--------- Mr. Bubbles, Isgrimnur, Remus West
1 Lassr <---------------- Lagom Lite

No Votes:

Majority is 6

Dead
Day 1 <------------ Stessier - Syringed
Night 1 <---------- Redrun - Garroted
Night 2 <---------- Jow - Injected
Day 3 <------------ Grundbegriff - Blasted
Night 3 <---------- Triggercut - Nailed
Night 4 <---------- Qantaga - Knifed
Day 5 <------------- Austin - Needled
Night 5 <----------- El Guapo - Strangled
Day 6 <------------- Newcastle - Poisoned
Night 6 <----------- Purge - Bashed
Day 7 <------------- Scoop20906 - Executed
Night 7 <----------- Warpig - Exploded
Day 8 <------------- Tru1cy - Bombed
Night 8 <----------- Coopasonic - Bugged

Deadline is June 28th 9PM Eastern

Day: All day actions happen first come first served
Count Dooku: Who will receive your secret vote for a lynch today?
Yoda: Who will receive your secret vote for a lynch today?
Darth Maul: Who will you take with you to the afterlife?
Boba Fett: Who will you protect from the lynch?
Admiral Ackbar: Will you public declare?
Rukh: Who will you assassinate?
Boba Fett: If your scan reveals a Rebel, will you kill the Rebel?
Greedo: Who will you shoot?
Leia Organa: Who will you stun?
Vader: Who will you choke to death?
R2D2: Who will receive your 3 secret votes for a lynch?
C3PO: Will you ask the Mod through PM what role started in the game?
Chewbacca: Who's arms will you tear off?
Han Solo: Will you initiate a block? If so on who?
Grand Admiral Thrawn: Get’s Rebel or Citizen if there is a successful lynch of a Rebel or Citizen.

Anytime:
Rukh: If you have identified Thrawn, you may interrupt any kill on Thrawn and sacrifice yourself instead.
Cad Bane: Name the player you want to disable.
Admiral Ackbar: Did you meet your secret agenda? If so PM the Mod.

Mr Bubbles · Post by **Mr Bubbles** » Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:55 pm

Unagi wrote: but I have trouble siding with either of you right now.

Whats new Unagi.

theohall · Post by **theohall** » Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:57 pm

I'd feel better off voting for Mr Bubbles, Isgrimnur, or CR than either Lagom Lite or Lassr right now. Odds are either Lassr or Lagom Lite is a Rebel. I am not sure which based on re-reading some and what is happening now. However, it makes the other three suspects all Imperials.

Mr Bubbles · Post by **Mr Bubbles** » Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:33 pm

theohall wrote:I'd feel better off voting for Mr Bubbles, Isgrimnur, or CR than either Lagom Lite or Lassr right now. Odds are either Lassr or Lagom Lite is a Rebel. I am not sure which based on re-reading some and what is happening now. However, it makes the other three suspects all Imperials.

Noted

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:35 pm

Well either Laom is Imperial or there are already 2 imps voting for him. Otherwise 3 imps would have jumped that train. So out of the people not voting for him, there are at most 2 imp if ll is a rebel.

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:37 pm

Hold it... Ten players... At 9 majority switches to 5. So two imperials and a vader choke would end it already...

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:37 pm

Chaosraven wrote:Well either Laom is Imperial or there are already 2 imps voting for him. Otherwise 3 imps would have jumped that train. So out of the people not voting for him, there are at most 2 imp if ll is a rebel.

Or rmc is Vader or there has been poor timing of availability amongst the imperials.

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:43 pm

I do agree that if LL is a rebel that this could end at any time if Mr. Bubbles, Isgrimnur, or Remus West are rebels. I also think given the checkins we have had this would be over if LL is a rebel and two of the three are rebels.

More than that I find too difficult to figure out.

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:53 pm

and by vader I actually mean any imperial killer. It occurs to me that if remus is lying about rmc then there is no reason why an assassin that could potentially win the game for the empire this turn must be vader .

theohall · Post by **theohall** » Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:02 pm

Chaosraven wrote:Hold it... Ten players... At 9 majority switches to 5. So two imperials and a vader choke would end it already...

If Remus is not lying, there are only 4 living Imperials, including Vader. A Majority of 5 does not give the Imperials a win. Vader choking now means Vader reveals and we lynch him. Making it 8 alive, still 5 majority, with 3 Imperials left.

Why are you trying to confuse us, CR?

Chaosraven

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:11 pm

theohall wrote:
Chaosraven wrote:Hold it... Ten players... At 9 majority switches to 5. So two imperials and a vader choke would end it already...
If Remus is not lying, there are only 4 living Imperials, including Vader. A Majority of 5 does not give the Imperials a win. Vader choking now means Vader reveals and we lynch him. Making it 8 alive, still 5 majority, with 3 Imperials left.

Why are you trying to confuse us, CR?

Chaosraven

yeah, four imperials with one moron rebel on a vote. Wolfpiile and choke. Vote closes, genius. Like you just did. If the rebel on the vote isn't quick enough to get off... Or if dooku was hiding in the shadows with the extra vote for majority.

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:14 pm

Chaosraven wrote:yeah, four imperials with one moron rebel on a vote. Wolfpiile and choke. Vote closes, genius. Like you just did. If the rebel on the vote isn't quick enough to get off... Or if dooku was hiding in the shadows with the extra vote for majority.

Ugh. I've been proceeding from the idea that Dooku is dead. Urge to vote LL rising even though he's not in my top 4.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:17 pm

withdraw Lagom Lite

I certainly don't want to contribute a quick dogpile. I need some time to think.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:24 pm

Isgrimnur wrote: withdraw Lagom Lite

I certainly don't want to contribute a quick dogpile. I need some time to think.

"

theohall · Post by **theohall** » Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:24 pm

Chaosraven wrote:
theohall wrote:
Chaosraven wrote:Hold it... Ten players... At 9 majority switches to 5. So two imperials and a vader choke would end it already...
If Remus is not lying, there are only 4 living Imperials, including Vader. A Majority of 5 does not give the Imperials a win. Vader choking now means Vader reveals and we lynch him. Making it 8 alive, still 5 majority, with 3 Imperials left.

Why are you trying to confuse us, CR?

Chaosraven

yeah, four imperials with one moron rebel on a vote. Wolfpiile and choke. Vote closes, genius. Like you just did. If the rebel on the vote isn't quick enough to get off... Or if dooku was hiding in the shadows with the extra vote for majority.

Okay. withdraw Chaosraven

I still believe you are Imperial and are trying to "help" us. Or Remus West has been giving us accurate information the whole time while actually being Thrawn.

theohall · Post by **theohall** » Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:26 pm

Hey, CR - how do you 'know' I am a moron rebel citizen, eh?

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:32 pm

theohall wrote:Hey, CR - how do you 'know' I am a moron rebel citizen, eh?

becuase you have shown the level of frustration I have been feeling this whole game. If you are acting, bravo.

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:35 pm

Ok, so we know Dooku is/was in the game, as Yoda proved. Remus tells us Vader is/was in the game. Austin was Fett, were either Newc or Scoop over too quick for a choke order? My point here is that if we believe Remus numbers (whether or not we believe him as c3p0), one wrong step could cost us the game. And a whole mess of people are willing to gamble that. Why?

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:38 pm

Bubbles, isgrim, and remus were willing to roll those dice on lagom.

Mr Bubbles · Post by **Mr Bubbles** » Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:44 pm

Chaosraven wrote:Bubbles, isgrim, and remus were willing to roll those dice on lagom.

I hardly consider it rolling the dice. But then again you're be obtuse and you're raising suspicions, so I just might roll the dice on you... How you like dem apples?

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:52 pm

Mr Bubbles wrote:
Chaosraven wrote:Bubbles, isgrim, and remus were willing to roll those dice on lagom.
I hardly consider it rolling the dice. But then again you're be obtuse and you're raising suspicions, so I just might roll the dice on you... How you like dem apples?

amazingly I am not scared of you voting for me. I feel very strongly about theo being a rebel, especially as he yanked his vote right back. You, on the other hand, are willing to dangle lagom. So dangling me in the same manner is easily as imperial.

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:53 pm

Remus being willing to do so worries me greatly.

theohall · Post by **theohall** » Fri Jun 22, 2012 3:05 pm

I feel very confident about a Mr Bubbles vote now, but will continue to wait to see what else transpires.

RMC · Post by **RMC** » Fri Jun 22, 2012 3:12 pm

Lagom Lite

I think he is our best person to test today.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Fri Jun 22, 2012 3:13 pm

Lagom Lite

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Fri Jun 22, 2012 3:13 pm

Lagom Lite