Story of the Chaos Order of the Dark Mages(WW)-Game Over

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Wed Aug 01, 2012 5:16 pm

bb2112 wrote: Remus West

This is mainly because he has not pulled his vote off of me. I would have to think there would be some better candidates out there than me on first day.

There are a ton of better targets for the day. You and Qantaga are the least desirable lynches today.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Wed Aug 01, 2012 5:18 pm

Remus West wrote:
bb2112 wrote: Remus West

This is mainly because he has not pulled his vote off of me. I would have to think there would be some better candidates out there than me on first day.
There are a ton of better targets for the day. You and Qantaga are the least desirable lynches today.

So why are you still voting for him?

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Wed Aug 01, 2012 5:23 pm

El Guapo wrote:
Remus West wrote:
bb2112 wrote: Remus West

This is mainly because he has not pulled his vote off of me. I would have to think there would be some better candidates out there than me on first day.
There are a ton of better targets for the day. You and Qantaga are the least desirable lynches today.
So why are you still voting for him?

In case someone wants to toss a dart. If someone would cast a vote against Qantaga that would essentially set it up as a free scan card. Or, if we lynch the third then it would show theohall or redrun to be lying if we don't get a wolf.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Wed Aug 01, 2012 5:24 pm

Which is not to claim that I have that card, as I do not.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Wed Aug 01, 2012 5:25 pm

Remus West wrote:
El Guapo wrote:
Remus West wrote:
bb2112 wrote: Remus West

This is mainly because he has not pulled his vote off of me. I would have to think there would be some better candidates out there than me on first day.
There are a ton of better targets for the day. You and Qantaga are the least desirable lynches today.
So why are you still voting for him?
In case someone wants to toss a dart. If someone would cast a vote against Qantaga that would essentially set it up as a free scan card. Or, if we lynch the third then it would show theohall or redrun to be lying if we don't get a wolf.

Fair point. Seeing as how it's legal today to say what card you have, if any villager does have the throw a dart card please indicate so, and then we can vote Qantaga and do the free scan as Remus proposes.

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Wed Aug 01, 2012 5:31 pm

stessier

feels off to me. Call it the bigotory of high expectations from him. But am willing to switch my vote to several other folks who've been pinging my radar.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Wed Aug 01, 2012 5:42 pm

I'm good with RMC

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Wed Aug 01, 2012 5:43 pm

Newcastle wrote:Call it the bigotory of high expectations from him.

You and Remus are teammates, aren't you?

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Wed Aug 01, 2012 5:52 pm

stessier wrote:
Newcastle wrote:Call it the bigotory of high expectations from him.
You and Remus are teammates, aren't you?

if he's a villager...then yes....

if youre a villager...then we are as well (stinks having to vote off your fellow villager in this cloud of uncertainty...tis dark times)

triggercut · Post by **triggercut** » Wed Aug 01, 2012 6:15 pm

bb2112 wrote: Remus West

This is mainly because he has not pulled his vote off of me. I would have to think there would be some better candidates out there than me on first day.

That seems like a really reflexive vote. I'm still prone to think of Remus as evil, and discount what seems like a rather far-fetched postulate he's made towards your guilt....

...and then along you come with that vote to make me think he may be on to something.

theohall · Post by **theohall** » Wed Aug 01, 2012 6:21 pm

triggercut wrote:
bb2112 wrote: Remus West

This is mainly because he has not pulled his vote off of me. I would have to think there would be some better candidates out there than me on first day.
That seems like a really reflexive vote. I'm still prone to think of Remus as evil, and discount what seems like a rather far-fetched postulate he's made towards your guilt....

...and then along you come with that vote to make me think he may be on to something.

Unless bb2112 is lying and played an I Am Spartacus card, he is a Villager. Isn't voting for someone who has a vote against you named after someone???

bb2112 · Post by **bb2112** » Wed Aug 01, 2012 6:38 pm

triggercut wrote:
bb2112 wrote: Remus West

This is mainly because he has not pulled his vote off of me. I would have to think there would be some better candidates out there than me on first day.
That seems like a really reflexive vote. I'm still prone to think of Remus as evil, and discount what seems like a rather far-fetched postulate he's made towards your guilt....

...and then along you come with that vote to make me think he may be on to something.

Since you don't read all the posts, I don't really care what you are thinking.

triggercut · Post by **triggercut** » Wed Aug 01, 2012 7:45 pm

theohall wrote:
Unless bb2112 is lying and played an I Am Spartacus card, he is a Villager.

Unless you are not a villager. The proof of your village-hood has not been established as far as I know, which is one of the weaknesses we need to avoid.

It's awesome that we (apparently) got two scans in before our Seer takes his turn at it in the overnight. We just need to be sure to assign proper caution against the public declaration of a seer card and result as proof of wholesomeness. You know your alignment theohall, but the rest of us, as yet, do not...at least not conclusively.

triggercut · Post by **triggercut** » Wed Aug 01, 2012 7:48 pm

bb2112 wrote:
triggercut wrote:
bb2112 wrote: Remus West

This is mainly because he has not pulled his vote off of me. I would have to think there would be some better candidates out there than me on first day.
That seems like a really reflexive vote. I'm still prone to think of Remus as evil, and discount what seems like a rather far-fetched postulate he's made towards your guilt....

...and then along you come with that vote to make me think he may be on to something.
Since you don't read all the posts, I don't really care what you are thinking.

Someone needs a nap!

As far as the posts, I'm well caught up. Remus's thing is a red herring, understood. It's a load of nothing. But...it did get you to both vote for Remus and then go boom here.

Hey, probably nothing to it...but it is interesting. That's all.

Qantaga · Post by **Qantaga** » Wed Aug 01, 2012 9:31 pm

Qantaga wrote:
bb2112 wrote:That being said, I would like to know what card Q has. Since he could have played the "I am Spartacus" card.

I'll be happy to share my card, but I've got a question PMed to Lassr first, since theo's last post most likely renders my card unprovable.

Lassr wrote: Swipe is one card with 3 uses.

Since there is only one Swipe card (and since theo has presumably already discarded it), revealing my card is uneventful. My card is one of the Swiper, No Swiping cards. However, there is no way to prove it, now that the Swipe card is (theoretically) unavailable today, so I must still be considered as a possible Spartacus.

bb2112 · Post by **bb2112** » Thu Aug 02, 2012 8:45 am

theohall wrote: Unless bb2112 is lying and played an I Am Spartacus card, he is a Villager. Isn't voting for someone who has a vote against you named after someone???

Yes. But my logic was not because he voted for me, but because you announced using your card and semi cleared me. Then after several real time days, he still has a vote against me. On a day one, why wouldn't you move your vote? Isn't there a potentially better candidate our there? Since he knows I will not likely be lynched today, it is equivalent to a no vote. Something that a wolfy Remus does quite often.

Also, his explanation about "Toss a dart" is off. I already explicitely asked if anyone had that card. Nobody responded. I would hope, if someone has the good of the village in mind, and if someone had that card, then he would have stepped forward at that time.

This leads me to one of three conclusions about Remus.

1. He is busy and really doesn't care about this game. - Seems highly unlikely considering RW's competitive spirit.

2. He is a villager and wants to get lynched to avoid having the seer get killed. - This has some merit. I was thinking this when I pulled my vote the first time. I seem to recall RR saying he thought something similar.

3. He is evil and is just trying to ride out accusations against him with his vote on a non-starter until someone else posts an is/was post and gets thrown under the bus for it. - This also has some merit.

Reading his intentions is very difficult.

I figure I will give it until tonight. If Remus is not lynched by then, then I will just have to consider it is not going to happen and move on.

bb2112 · Post by **bb2112** » Thu Aug 02, 2012 8:49 am

Lassr wrote:
Qantaga wrote:
theohall wrote: NO ONE can Swipe cards today.

In addition to my PM question to Lassr, here's a public one:

Lassr, is there just ONE Swipe card that is reshuffled each day until it has been used three times? Or are there three separate Swipe cards?

It seems it's just one card, but worth clarifying.
Swipe is one card with 3 uses.

Swiper no swiping has a possible 3 cards in play at once.

Lassr, is the Swiper no swiping card the only one with multiples?

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Thu Aug 02, 2012 9:06 am

bb2112 wrote:
Lassr wrote:
Qantaga wrote:
theohall wrote: NO ONE can Swipe cards today.

In addition to my PM question to Lassr, here's a public one:

Lassr, is there just ONE Swipe card that is reshuffled each day until it has been used three times? Or are there three separate Swipe cards?

It seems it's just one card, but worth clarifying.
Swipe is one card with 3 uses.

Swiper no swiping has a possible 3 cards in play at once.
Lassr, is the Swiper no swiping card the only one with multiples?

No

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Thu Aug 02, 2012 9:06 am

Daydreamer for example.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Thu Aug 02, 2012 9:07 am

Newcastle ---------- kraegor ----- Qantaga ----- redrun ----- Chaosraven ----- Newcastle ----- stessier
BB2112 ---------- Remus West ----- Remus West ----- ----- ----- -----
theohall ---------- stessier ----- Chasoraven ----- RMC ----- ----- -----
kraegor ---------- Remus West ----- ----- ----- ----- -----
Remus West ---------- bb2112 ----- ----- ----- ----- -----
El Guapo ---------- Remus West ----- kraegor ----- RMC ----- ----- -----
stessier ---------- Mr. Bubbles ----- RMC ----- ----- ----- -----
triggercut ---------- El Guapo ----- Remus West ----- ----- ----- -----
Chaosraven ---------- bb2112 ----- ----- ----- ----- -----
Qantaga ---------- theohall ----- stessier ----- Newcastle ----- ----- -----
RMC ---------- Remus West ----- ----- ----- ----- -----
redrun ---------- Qantaga ----- Chasoraven ----- ----- ----- -----
Mr. Bubbles ---------- ----- ----- ----- ----- -----
.
.
Remus West -4 -------- RMC, triggercut, kraegor, bb2112
RMC -3 ---------- theohall, El Guapo, stessier
Chaosraven -1 ---------- redrun
Newcastle -1 ---------- Qantaga
bb2112 -1 --------- Remus West
stessier -1 ---------- Newcastle

Majority = 7

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Thu Aug 02, 2012 9:38 am

I think RMC should get the long dirt nap. Let's move some votes people!

Mr Bubbles · Post by **Mr Bubbles** » Thu Aug 02, 2012 10:21 am

triggercut wrote:
bb2112 wrote:
triggercut wrote:
bb2112 wrote: Remus West

This is mainly because he has not pulled his vote off of me. I would have to think there would be some better candidates out there than me on first day.
That seems like a really reflexive vote. I'm still prone to think of Remus as evil, and discount what seems like a rather far-fetched postulate he's made towards your guilt....

...and then along you come with that vote to make me think he may be on to something.
Since you don't read all the posts, I don't really care what you are thinking.
Someone needs a nap!

As far as the posts, I'm well caught up. Remus's thing is a red herring, understood. It's a load of nothing. But...it did get you to both vote for Remus and then go boom here.

Hey, probably nothing to it...but it is interesting. That's all.

Oh how many games has Remus been given the clear and it turned out to burn us. Remus is never a red herring.

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Thu Aug 02, 2012 10:52 am

I wonder how theohall *already* *knew* that Newcastle was joking about the Sparty card.

theohall · Post by **theohall** » Thu Aug 02, 2012 11:45 am

Chaosraven wrote:I wonder how theohall *already* *knew* that Newcastle was joking about the Sparty card.

Because Newcastle always jokes about stuff. It's his modus operandi 99% of the time in these games. Mountains out of molehills wolf-boy.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Thu Aug 02, 2012 12:03 pm

Which is why we should lynch RMC or Mr Bubbles. They aren't even around enough to make molehills.

Mr Bubbles · Post by **Mr Bubbles** » Thu Aug 02, 2012 12:22 pm

stessier wrote:Which is why we should lynch RMC or Mr Bubbles. They aren't even around enough to make molehills.

Definitely acting wolfish. Wow

bb2112 · Post by **bb2112** » Thu Aug 02, 2012 1:06 pm

Mr Bubbles wrote:
stessier wrote:Which is why we should lynch RMC or Mr Bubbles. They aren't even around enough to make molehills.
Definitely acting wolfish. Wow

I don't know. I kind of agree with him. You have been MIA the last couple of games, and seem to only pop in when you get called out on it. You definitely don't throw out any analysis or help in the hunt (at least not in thread), so I don't think Stess is way off base by pointing it out.

If you think I'm wrong in my thought process (and apprently Stess's), then please enlighten me. Just so you know, as soon as the RW train goes nowhere by tonight, I was planning on voting for your next. Nothing personal.

RMC · Post by **RMC** » Thu Aug 02, 2012 1:14 pm

Sorry long days at work.

I had the howdy partner card, and IM'd EL Guapo. I asked him some questions he asked me mine, I sent my impressions he didn't respond.

Now he is voting for me. <shrug>

I am around, and am a villager, so not that big a loss for day one.

I can move off Remus, but why the push to keep Remus suddenly? Or is it just a desire to push for someone to get lynched, which I can understand.

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Thu Aug 02, 2012 1:16 pm

in defense of bubbles...i think last game was an anomaly....for me he's usually here and present, and participating in general. Its the total silent ones who really hurt the game process in general and there are really 2 of those....and bubbles aint one of em. In fact they aint playing.

Yeah last game bubbles dissapeared...but in all fairness historically he's been relatively active. In fact, if you counted up the posts i'd think he'd have a decent amount...not a lot but a decent chunk.

Hmm, wonder what the post count of everyone is so we could get a firm number on that.....

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Thu Aug 02, 2012 1:18 pm

Chaosraven wrote:I wonder how theohall *already* *knew* that Newcastle was joking about the Sparty card.

because i told him over in the air hockey forum.

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Thu Aug 02, 2012 1:19 pm

As I'm reading through this why do i get teh feeling there are like 8 dark mages and few innocents. So many people seeming so wolfy....how do you guys do that? I am sure some of you are innocent....but man...the dark evilish vibe rubbing off some of you.....really, really making my head spin.

triggercut · Post by **triggercut** » Thu Aug 02, 2012 2:46 pm

The Remus West train hasn't moved in what seems like nearly a week, and he's actually participating in the thread, even if his analysis leaves something to be desired.

I'm good with either RMC or Mr Bubbles, frankly.

Let's see if this stirs up some action:

RMC

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Thu Aug 02, 2012 3:07 pm

Newcastle ---------- kraegor ----- Qantaga ----- redrun ----- Chaosraven ----- Newcastle ----- stessier
BB2112 ---------- Remus West ----- Remus West ----- ----- ----- -----
theohall ---------- stessier ----- Chasoraven ----- RMC ----- ----- -----
kraegor ---------- Remus West ----- ----- ----- ----- -----
Remus West ---------- bb2112 ----- ----- ----- ----- -----
El Guapo ---------- Remus West ----- kraegor ----- RMC ----- ----- -----
stessier ---------- Mr. Bubbles ----- RMC ----- ----- ----- -----
triggercut ---------- El Guapo ----- Remus West ----- RMC ----- ----- -----
Chaosraven ---------- bb2112 ----- ----- ----- ----- -----
Qantaga ---------- theohall ----- stessier ----- Newcastle ----- ----- -----
RMC ---------- Remus West ----- ----- ----- ----- -----
redrun ---------- Qantaga ----- Chasoraven ----- ----- ----- -----
Mr. Bubbles ---------- ----- ----- ----- ----- -----
.
.
RMC -4 ---------- theohall, El Guapo, stessier, triggercut
Remus West -3 -------- RMC, kraegor, bb2112
Chaosraven -1 ---------- redrun
Newcastle -1 ---------- Qantaga
bb2112 -1 --------- Remus West
stessier -1 ---------- Newcastle

Majority = 7

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Thu Aug 02, 2012 3:30 pm

Just to throw in my two cents...i'd be very interested in a CR train if that formed. Not so sure about RMC....he's not as high on my suspect list. If anything he's guilty of being non chatty for now. I really, really would love to test stessier or CR. Especially CR...like seriously would love to test CR.

Kind of curious folks reasons for voting for RMC.....Silence factor? Or heebi-jeebies?

theohall · Post by **theohall** » Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:09 pm

Newcastle wrote:Just to throw in my two cents...i'd be very interested in a CR train if that formed. Not so sure about RMC....he's not as high on my suspect list. If anything he's guilty of being non chatty for now. I really, really would love to test stessier or CR. Especially CR...like seriously would love to test CR.

Kind of curious folks reasons for voting for RMC.....Silence factor? Or heebi-jeebies?

Silence factor. I only moved off of CR, because no one else seemed to want to vote for him. I will happily move back.

Mr Bubbles · Post by **Mr Bubbles** » Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:16 pm

bb2112 wrote:
Mr Bubbles wrote:
stessier wrote:Which is why we should lynch RMC or Mr Bubbles. They aren't even around enough to make molehills.
Definitely acting wolfish. Wow
I don't know. I kind of agree with him. You have been MIA the last couple of games, and seem to only pop in when you get called out on it. You definitely don't throw out any analysis or help in the hunt (at least not in thread), so I don't think Stess is way off base by pointing it out.

If you think I'm wrong in my thought process (and apprently Stess's), then please enlighten me. Just so you know, as soon as the RW train goes nowhere by tonight, I was planning on voting for your next. Nothing personal.

So you think Stess is acting totally normal? I haven't seen him act this wolfish in a long time.

Mr Bubbles · Post by **Mr Bubbles** » Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:17 pm

theohall wrote:
Newcastle wrote:Just to throw in my two cents...i'd be very interested in a CR train if that formed. Not so sure about RMC....he's not as high on my suspect list. If anything he's guilty of being non chatty for now. I really, really would love to test stessier or CR. Especially CR...like seriously would love to test CR.

Kind of curious folks reasons for voting for RMC.....Silence factor? Or heebi-jeebies?
Silence factor. I only moved off of CR, because no one else seemed to want to vote for him. I will happily move back.

After reviewing things I could vote CR's way.

theohall · Post by **theohall** » Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:18 pm

Who is this Chasoraven guy and what happened to Chaos?

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:23 pm

lets make it official then:

chaosraven

simply put: i dont like how he was spinning what i was saying. I dont like his insistence i was saying something one way, when it was pretty clear what i was driving at. His insistence on pushing that line of thought, really...really puts me off. Plus no lists...man, i mean where the vote counts?

(kidding, kind of really...since i've grown use to an innocent CR putting some useful data out there).

I dont think i'll vote for Remus,

I also wont vote for BB or anyone connected w/ the scan cards (ie theo, Qantaga & Redrun)......figure night kills will clear up any confusion and prove/disprove the folks who've been fingered w/ a card. Again this goes back to their cards and how they were played. They werent pressured in releasing that info. I think we'll know more about the veracity of their claims after a couple of night cycles have passed. If they are villagers, i much rather the wolves deal with them rather than us potentially hanging em. Lets put the pressure on the bad guys.

Almost everyone else...am open to voting for.

theohall · Post by **theohall** » Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:25 pm

Then it's time to switch back and see if anyone follows....

withdraw RMC

Chaosraven