[WW] -The Pirates of the Flying Octopi - Pirates win

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Fri Feb 15, 2013 1:03 pm

Not unexpected given his final attitude.

Mr Bubbles · Post by **Mr Bubbles** » Fri Feb 15, 2013 2:21 pm

Wow.. Im shocked. The guy was an average tru1cy all along.. Now we have to look at those who tried to misrepresent his participation and go after them.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Fri Feb 15, 2013 3:08 pm

I was not shocked either. Thought he could be a wolf earlier but my mind slowly changed as the last day approached but couldn't get anyone to switch their vote to Remus. Sometimes I feel ignored.

If I should die in the night, please look closely at Remus!

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Fri Feb 15, 2013 3:22 pm

Wah waahhhhhh

Oh well. Just wait until morning and crunch the data.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Fri Feb 15, 2013 3:23 pm

Lassr wrote:I was not shocked either. Thought he could be a wolf earlier but my mind slowly changed as the last day approached but couldn't get anyone to switch their vote to Remus. Sometimes I feel ignored.

If I should die in the night, please look closely at Remus!

But if Remus is a wolf, isn't killing you the last thing they would do? Unless we're getting into sicilian mind game territory.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Fri Feb 15, 2013 3:46 pm

El Guapo wrote:
Lassr wrote:I was not shocked either. Thought he could be a wolf earlier but my mind slowly changed as the last day approached but couldn't get anyone to switch their vote to Remus. Sometimes I feel ignored.

If I should die in the night, please look closely at Remus!
But if Remus is a wolf, isn't killing you the last thing they would do? Unless we're getting into sicilian mind game territory.

you never know.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Sat Feb 16, 2013 1:08 pm

El Guapo wrote:
Lassr wrote:I was not shocked either. Thought he could be a wolf earlier but my mind slowly changed as the last day approached but couldn't get anyone to switch their vote to Remus. Sometimes I feel ignored.

If I should die in the night, please look closely at Remus!
But if Remus is a wolf, isn't killing you the last thing they would do? Unless we're getting into sicilian mind game territory.

If I were a wolf, Lassr's stance regarding me would have no bearing on my choice for kill in the night. I am not a wolf though so I don't get a vote.

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Sun Feb 17, 2013 2:53 pm

The new day dawned to find Qantaga dead.

(sorry no write up; am super busy)

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No Votes Cast - Lassr, Remus West, Mr. Bubbles, Lagom Lite, RMC, Holman, Scoop, El Guapo, Vorret, Proner

Majority is 6

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Vorret · Post by **Vorret** » Sun Feb 17, 2013 4:00 pm

Intresting, Qantaga was in Tru1cy thread list.

Mr Bubbles · Post by **Mr Bubbles** » Sun Feb 17, 2013 6:57 pm

Interesting pick. But at least today we have so much more to go off of than the day before. Time pick apart the tru1cy vote.

Qantaga · Post by **Qantaga** » Sun Feb 17, 2013 9:24 pm

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Sun Feb 17, 2013 11:29 pm

Newcastle wrote:The new day dawned to find Qantaga dead.

(sorry no write up; am super busy)

"Arrr! He died as he lived--without a write up!"

Lagom Lite · Post by **Lagom Lite** » Mon Feb 18, 2013 2:47 am

Checking in. Today's the day for analysis, I think, or the wolves willl win.

Killed:
bb2112
Qantaga

Lynched:
theohall
tru1cy

Alive and kicking:

Lassr
Remus West
Mr Bubbles
Lagom Lite
RMC
Holman
Scoop20906
El Guapo
Vorret
pr0ner

10 players.
3 wolves.
7 villagers.

We can afford one more miss without losing the game, but if we do miss today it's going to be a long uphill struggle to eke out a victory.

With any luck, our Seer has found something/isn't dead.

We have a Shooter too (unless dead). If the Shooter fires and hits, he buys us another day. If the Shooter fires and misses, we won't lose a day so that's good news.

These players should consider stepping forward today.

Lagom Lite · Post by **Lagom Lite** » Mon Feb 18, 2013 2:52 am

Mr Bubbles wrote:Interesting pick. But at least today we have so much more to go off of than the day before. Time pick apart the tru1cy vote.

Not sure the tru1cy vote is all that interesting. The mod imposed a deadline and it was approaching. I think many voted tru1cy against their conviction, it's even posssible the wolves stayed off that vote entirely.

Lagom Lite · Post by **Lagom Lite** » Mon Feb 18, 2013 2:54 am

Remus, El Guapo, Bubbles?

Vorret · Post by **Vorret** » Mon Feb 18, 2013 6:53 am

Lagom Lite wrote:Remus, El Guapo, Bubbles?

What about them?

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:15 am

Did anyone ever wonder why I moved my vote off RMC?

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:25 am

Scoop20906 wrote:Did anyone ever wonder why I moved my vote off RMC?

I'd like to hear.

Vorret · Post by **Vorret** » Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:27 am

Scoop20906 wrote:Did anyone ever wonder why I moved my vote off RMC?

You wanted to test him but nobody jumped in with you so you gave up?

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:32 am

Vorret wrote:
Scoop20906 wrote:Did anyone ever wonder why I moved my vote off RMC?
You wanted to test him but nobody jumped in with you so you gave up?

This isn't the reason.

Any other guesses?

Vorret · Post by **Vorret** » Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:38 am

Scoop20906 wrote:
Vorret wrote:
Scoop20906 wrote:Did anyone ever wonder why I moved my vote off RMC?
You wanted to test him but nobody jumped in with you so you gave up?
This isn't the reason.

Any other guesses?

You changed your mind and beleive he's a simple pirate?

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:41 am

Vorret wrote:
Scoop20906 wrote:
Vorret wrote:
Scoop20906 wrote:Did anyone ever wonder why I moved my vote off RMC?
You wanted to test him but nobody jumped in with you so you gave up?
This isn't the reason.

Any other guesses?
You changed your mind and beleive he's a simple pirate?

Close but there was a specific post he made that changed my mind. I even commented on it at the time.

Vorret · Post by **Vorret** » Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:52 am

Scoop20906 wrote:
Vorret wrote:
Scoop20906 wrote:
Vorret wrote:
Scoop20906 wrote:Did anyone ever wonder why I moved my vote off RMC?
You wanted to test him but nobody jumped in with you so you gave up?
This isn't the reason.

Any other guesses?
You changed your mind and beleive he's a simple pirate?
Close but there was a specific post he made that changed my mind. I even commented on it at the time.

Okay I think I see it but... why bring this up now?

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:15 am

Scoop20906 wrote:
Vorret wrote:
Scoop20906 wrote:
Vorret wrote:
Scoop20906 wrote:Did anyone ever wonder why I moved my vote off RMC?
You wanted to test him but nobody jumped in with you so you gave up?
This isn't the reason.

Any other guesses?
You changed your mind and beleive he's a simple pirate?
Close but there was a specific post he made that changed my mind. I even commented on it at the time.

Yes, same post that got me leaning more good on RMC. So...

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:17 am

Lagom Lite wrote:Remus, El Guapo, Bubbles?

Yes! Maybe. Leaning No.

Vorret · Post by **Vorret** » Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:28 am

Well, the consensus among many of us was that either Tru1cy or Remus were wolf, since Tru1cy was good does that make Remus wolf?

Bit of a stretch, imo, but who knows.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:52 am

Vorret wrote:Well, the consensus among many of us was that either Tru1cy or Remus were wolf, since Tru1cy was good does that make Remus wolf?

Bit of a stretch, imo, but who knows.

My theory was at the time that tru1cy may know that Remus was a villager because of this sequence of posts.

tru1cy wrote:
Lassr wrote:
tru1cy wrote: Remus was on a fishing expedition and I'm a little surprised lassr took the bait.
you know that for a fact?

I didn't at the time.

What did he catch?
I figured he was just testing you, but that's just my opinion. My guess he was watching to see who would jump on you too

If tru1cy had been a wolf then I may have changed my mind about Remus. Turns out tru1cy was not a wolf so I'm back to thinking Remus is a wolf causing confusion.

Vorret · Post by **Vorret** » Mon Feb 18, 2013 12:04 pm

Lassr wrote:
Vorret wrote:Well, the consensus among many of us was that either Tru1cy or Remus were wolf, since Tru1cy was good does that make Remus wolf?

Bit of a stretch, imo, but who knows.

My theory was at the time that tru1cy may know that Remus was a villager because of this sequence of posts.

tru1cy wrote:
Lassr wrote:
tru1cy wrote: Remus was on a fishing expedition and I'm a little surprised lassr took the bait.
you know that for a fact?

I didn't at the time.

What did he catch?
I figured he was just testing you, but that's just my opinion. My guess he was watching to see who would jump on you too
If tru1cy had been a wolf then I may have changed my mind about Remus. Turns out tru1cy was not a wolf so I'm back to thinking Remus is a wolf causing confusion.

For some odd reason he wasn't in his threat list, so Tru1cy wasn't suspecting Remus at all...

Mr Bubbles · Post by **Mr Bubbles** » Mon Feb 18, 2013 12:09 pm

Lagom Lite wrote:
Mr Bubbles wrote:Interesting pick. But at least today we have so much more to go off of than the day before. Time pick apart the tru1cy vote.
Not sure the tru1cy vote is all that interesting. The mod imposed a deadline and it was approaching. I think many voted tru1cy against their conviction, it's even posssible the wolves stayed off that vote entirely.

I disagree. While the end was rushed obviously there were some that accuse tru1cy of being wolf like, despite being obviously a regular tru1cy. I find it interesting that you should so easily dismiss this. The deadline was added well after the discussion had begun.

Vorret · Post by **Vorret** » Mon Feb 18, 2013 12:34 pm

My thoughts right now.
We have a few people who beleive Holman might be wolf.

I looked at the post everyone made to see who would try and defend that or promote that, one of the person that was kinda hinting at that was Tru1cy, who got lynched.
Another person that was supporting that vote is Qantaga, who got shanked.
pr0ner and me were the other suspecting Holman, I wouldn't be surprise if I or he are pushed for lynch today by the 3 wolves.

If Holman is wolf, who is defending him?

Scoop is the first one that comes to mind.
Lagom is the next one, especially he's the one who blasted Qantaga for his newbie wolf move

But still, Scoop, right now, if my most potential target as Holman's wolf parner.

Scoop

Vorret · Post by **Vorret** » Mon Feb 18, 2013 12:35 pm

Partner not parner.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Mon Feb 18, 2013 12:57 pm

Lagom Lite wrote:Checking in. Today's the day for analysis, I think, or the wolves willl win.

Killed:
bb2112
Qantaga

Lynched:
theohall
tru1cy

Alive and kicking:

Lassr
Remus West
Mr Bubbles
Lagom Lite
RMC
Holman
Scoop20906
El Guapo
Vorret
pr0ner

10 players.
3 wolves.
7 villagers.

We can afford one more miss without losing the game, but if we do miss today it's going to be a long uphill struggle to eke out a victory.

With any luck, our Seer has found something/isn't dead.

We have a Shooter too (unless dead). If the Shooter fires and hits, he buys us another day. If the Shooter fires and misses, we won't lose a day so that's good news.

These players should consider stepping forward today.

Trying to force people's hand? We have more than today to get this thing done.

If the shooter goes and misses that puts us at a 6/3 advantage.
If we then lynch and miss we will still be at a 4/3 advantage tomorrow - game not over.

If the shooter does not shoot and we lynch and miss we will be at 5/3 tomorrow and in the same last chance situation as we would with him shooting and missing so at least that part is accurate. As is the gaining of a day with a shot hitting. Thus, the shooter should take the shot today or tomorrow depending on information and how secure he feels.

RMC · Post by **RMC** » Mon Feb 18, 2013 1:32 pm

Scoop20906 wrote:
Vorret wrote:
Scoop20906 wrote:
Vorret wrote:
Scoop20906 wrote:Did anyone ever wonder why I moved my vote off RMC?
You wanted to test him but nobody jumped in with you so you gave up?
This isn't the reason.

Any other guesses?
You changed your mind and beleive he's a simple pirate?
Close but there was a specific post he made that changed my mind. I even commented on it at the time.

Ah.. Please tell me scoop, I think I am too close to the comments to see what set off your scoopdar. Was it when I called you snookums?

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Mon Feb 18, 2013 2:06 pm

RMC wrote:
Scoop20906 wrote:
Vorret wrote:
Scoop20906 wrote:
Vorret wrote:
Scoop20906 wrote:Did anyone ever wonder why I moved my vote off RMC?
You wanted to test him but nobody jumped in with you so you gave up?
This isn't the reason.

Any other guesses?
You changed your mind and beleive he's a simple pirate?
Close but there was a specific post he made that changed my mind. I even commented on it at the time.
Ah.. Please tell me scoop, I think I am too close to the comments to see what set off your scoopdar. Was it when I called you snookums?

You called his tiara "butt ugly."

Vorret · Post by **Vorret** » Mon Feb 18, 2013 2:18 pm

Remus West wrote:
Lagom Lite wrote:Checking in. Today's the day for analysis, I think, or the wolves willl win.

Killed:
bb2112
Qantaga

Lynched:
theohall
tru1cy

Alive and kicking:

Lassr
Remus West
Mr Bubbles
Lagom Lite
RMC
Holman
Scoop20906
El Guapo
Vorret
pr0ner

10 players.
3 wolves.
7 villagers.

We can afford one more miss without losing the game, but if we do miss today it's going to be a long uphill struggle to eke out a victory.

With any luck, our Seer has found something/isn't dead.

We have a Shooter too (unless dead). If the Shooter fires and hits, he buys us another day. If the Shooter fires and misses, we won't lose a day so that's good news.

These players should consider stepping forward today.
Trying to force people's hand? We have more than today to get this thing done.

If the shooter goes and misses that puts us at a 6/3 advantage.
If we then lynch and miss we will still be at a 4/3 advantage tomorrow - game not over.

If the shooter does not shoot and we lynch and miss we will be at 5/3 tomorrow and in the same last chance situation as we would with him shooting and missing so at least that part is accurate. As is the gaining of a day with a shot hitting. Thus, the shooter should take the shot today or tomorrow depending on information and how secure he feels.

Yep.
Posts like these really make me beleive Lagom is a wolf.

As I said, my list right now is Holman, Lagom and Scoop.

Mr Bubbles · Post by **Mr Bubbles** » Mon Feb 18, 2013 2:23 pm

Lagom is definitely moving on up on my list as well. He's trying to steer things in directions I disagree with. He's my number one very quickly, but I am in no hurry to cast a vote yet.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Mon Feb 18, 2013 2:30 pm

My mind is still stuck on Remus is a wolf and I will admit that may be tainting a lot of my other views. I would really love to test Remus so I can move on.

Vorret's tags along with Remus and Remus vote on Vorret last round raises my eyebrows but only because I think Remus is a wolf.

Back of my mind I think about EL Guapo's lists not really mentioning Remus and that floats around in my head.

Lagom lists Remus as his #1 target, is it because he sees the same thing I do or is it a partner trying to look helpful if Remus turns up wolf when lynched.

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Mon Feb 18, 2013 2:49 pm

Lassr wrote:
Scoop20906 wrote:
Vorret wrote:
Scoop20906 wrote:
Vorret wrote:
Scoop20906 wrote:Did anyone ever wonder why I moved my vote off RMC?
You wanted to test him but nobody jumped in with you so you gave up?
This isn't the reason.

Any other guesses?
You changed your mind and beleive he's a simple pirate?
Close but there was a specific post he made that changed my mind. I even commented on it at the time.
Yes, same post that got me leaning more good on RMC. So...

Because you made the same post as RMC.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Mon Feb 18, 2013 3:06 pm

Just in case a newbie is the seer, you don't have to find a wolf if you can give us 2-3+ normal players then that is jut as good as it eliminates places for the wolves to hide. I would think by tomorrow you definitely need to come out though. If you wait until the last day to reveal then we may have a hard time believing you since that is often a wolf ploy also.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Mon Feb 18, 2013 3:07 pm

Scoop20906 wrote:
Lassr wrote:
Scoop20906 wrote:
Vorret wrote:
Scoop20906 wrote:
Vorret wrote:
Scoop20906 wrote:Did anyone ever wonder why I moved my vote off RMC?
You wanted to test him but nobody jumped in with you so you gave up?
This isn't the reason.

Any other guesses?
You changed your mind and beleive he's a simple pirate?
Close but there was a specific post he made that changed my mind. I even commented on it at the time.
Yes, same post that got me leaning more good on RMC. So...
Because you made the same post as RMC.

I did.