[WW] -The Pirates of the Flying Octopi - Pirates win

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Mon Feb 25, 2013 1:39 am

Truly the day isn't over and what I decide to do is greatly determined by today's vote.

But the truth, my dear Remus, is that I have told you everything you need to know today to cast your vote and that I have increased our chances if catching one today.

You do make one good point. I'd ask that if we get a bandwagon on someone that I'm allowed to cast the last vote. That way I can control what information I decide to reveal at the end of the day. It could be crucial.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Mon Feb 25, 2013 2:15 am

Scoop20906 wrote:Truly the day isn't over and what I decide to do is greatly determined by today's vote.

But the truth, my dear Remus, is that I have told you everything you need to know today to cast your vote and that I have increased our chances if catching one today.

You do make one good point. I'd ask that if we get a bandwagon on someone that I'm allowed to cast the last vote. That way I can control what information I decide to reveal at the end of the day. It could be crucial.

I think I understand your play and, as noted earlier, I like it. Assuming I've read it correctly that is. I'm trying to stay out of the way of it so I don't muck it up for now. I certainly have no issue with allowing you to live up to your personal werewolf meme either.

Vorret · Post by **Vorret** » Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:59 am

It would be nice if you we could agree on a vote before the deadline so we're not pressed into a bad decision.

RMC · Post by **RMC** » Mon Feb 25, 2013 9:13 am

Having taken a look over everything I think my top three are:

Lagom Lite
Mr Bubbles
And maybe Vorret... Not really set on this one.

And the reasons are the quietness of the top two. While not completely quiet, I think they are both wondering in and out just enough to not be accused of trying to hide, while they hide.

And I commend Scoop and Lassr if they are both wolves, as they are doing an outstanding job of it if they are...

So with that said: Lagom Lite

pr0ner · Post by **pr0ner** » Mon Feb 25, 2013 9:57 am

May as well go with LagomLite

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Mon Feb 25, 2013 10:03 am

If we get Lagom up to n-2, then I'm going to pull my vote simply so I can control how the transition to night is resolved. Once Lagom is at n-1 we will give him a chance to declare.

If anyone posts the final vote before I do then I will assume the voter is working against the pirates and is a wolf.

Is this clear? Anyone against this plan?

Also, I've settled on Lagom for reasons I've already posted. If you you choose to vote for him don't hide behind my reasoning but present your own. Like I said before, I'd prefer I'm today's lynch then have my vote be a place for the wolves to hide.

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Mon Feb 25, 2013 10:11 am

Mod, can we get a vote count please?

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Mon Feb 25, 2013 10:11 am

hadn't had a vote count in a while.

I find it funny that in games where Remus is a villager everyone seems to be in a hurry to lynch him. This game he so feels like a wolf and yet no one wants to lynch him. Maybe I am wrong here. For now I'll start focusing on the other wolves.

But folks please do not ignore Remus if I should die. If Remus is a wolf, I think vorret may be a possibility since Remus likes to target his partners early. Scoop would jump back into the conversation if Remus is a wolf. Maybe El Guapo. And of course there is

Lagom Lite

. He is on my short list.

I think that is 5 votes.

Vorret · Post by **Vorret** » Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:07 am

Yep.
Pretty sure that's 5 votes :

Scoop - Vorret - Pr0ner - Lassr - RMC

Lagom Lite · Post by **Lagom Lite** » Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:13 am

I'm just a villager. Have fun dancing to Scoop's pipe.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:13 am

Scoop20906 wrote:If we get Lagom up to n-2, then I'm going to pull my vote simply so I can control how the transition to night is resolved. Once Lagom is at n-1 we will give him a chance to declare.

Um, you missed n-2. We are at n-1.

Hold off voting Lagom for Scoop to finish his play and for Lagom to talk.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:14 am

Well, maybe just for Scoop to finish his play then.

Vorret · Post by **Vorret** » Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:14 am

He just talked and didn't say much.

Vorret · Post by **Vorret** » Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:17 am

Lagom Lite wrote:I'm just a villager. Have fun dancing to Scoop's pipe.

There's 4 people voting for you who had you in their "threat" list way before Scoop voted for you.

pr0ner · Post by **pr0ner** » Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:18 am

Lagom Lite wrote:I'm just a villager. Have fun dancing to Scoop's pipe.

That's all you have to add? No vote, no thoughts on who you think is the wolf?

pr0ner · Post by **pr0ner** » Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:19 am

Vorret wrote:
Lagom Lite wrote:I'm just a villager. Have fun dancing to Scoop's pipe.
There's 4 people voting for you who had you in their "threat" list way before Scoop voted for you.

There is this, too.

I'm certainly not voting for Lagom because Scoop wants me to.

RMC · Post by **RMC** » Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:22 am

I will admit Lagom, did not make my 'threat' list per se. I have had Mr. Bubbles and a few floating others on my list.

But silents are always on my list. <shrug>

pr0ner · Post by **pr0ner** » Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:23 am

RMC wrote:I will admit Lagom, did not make my 'threat' list per se. I have had Mr. Bubbles and a few floating others on my list.

But silents are always on my list. <shrug>

It's pretty bad when Bubbles and Lagom are seen as silents and I'm not!

RMC · Post by **RMC** » Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:27 am

pr0ner wrote:
RMC wrote:I will admit Lagom, did not make my 'threat' list per se. I have had Mr. Bubbles and a few floating others on my list.

But silents are always on my list. <shrug>
It's pretty bad when Bubbles and Lagom are seen as silents and I'm not!

hehe... Your a silent in a different way than Lagom.... At least in my mind.

And Bubbles is different than being silent, which I think I outlined my thoughts prior. <shrug>

Vorret · Post by **Vorret** » Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:34 am

Well, Bubble is indeed silent but Lagom is silent and he said... odd things, that's why (I beleive) he's making the list.

Vorret · Post by **Vorret** » Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:35 am

So I'm guessing we're waiting the Scooport ?

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:38 am

Votes

Scoop (2) - Lagom Lite, Holman,
Vorret ( 1) - Remus West,
Lagom Lite (5) - Scoop, Vorret, RMC, Proner, Lassr,

No Votes Cast - Mr. Bubbles, El Guapo,

Majority is 6

DEADLINE IS WEDNESDAY 2/27 6 pm pst (9 pm EST)

58 hours

RMC · Post by **RMC** » Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:45 am

Withdraw Lagom Lite

Waiting for scoop. Don't want a wolf to jump on if that might be the case..

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:47 am

pr0ner wrote:
Lagom Lite wrote:I'm just a villager. Have fun dancing to Scoop's pipe.
That's all you have to add? No vote, no thoughts on who you think is the wolf?

He is already voting for Scoop.

BTW, if Scoop does not check in this evening (or before then) I will be voting for Scoop as well. I'm not going to wait until we get too close to the deadline to adjust as needs dictate.

Depending upon what Scoop has to say I'll vote Lagom due to his earlier oddities at the start of today.

pr0ner · Post by **pr0ner** » Mon Feb 25, 2013 12:03 pm

Remus West wrote:
pr0ner wrote:
Lagom Lite wrote:I'm just a villager. Have fun dancing to Scoop's pipe.
That's all you have to add? No vote, no thoughts on who you think is the wolf?
He is already voting for Scoop.

BTW, if Scoop does not check in this evening (or before then) I will be voting for Scoop as well. I'm not going to wait until we get too close to the deadline to adjust as needs dictate.

Depending upon what Scoop has to say I'll vote Lagom due to his earlier oddities at the start of today.

I missed that, as I was (clearly) too lazy to go back and see what happened.

However, if you are willing to vote for Scoop, why did you say that you understand his play and that you like it earlier?

RMC wrote:
pr0ner wrote:
RMC wrote:I will admit Lagom, did not make my 'threat' list per se. I have had Mr. Bubbles and a few floating others on my list.

But silents are always on my list. <shrug>
It's pretty bad when Bubbles and Lagom are seen as silents and I'm not!
hehe... Your a silent in a different way than Lagom.... At least in my mind.

And Bubbles is different than being silent, which I think I outlined my thoughts prior. <shrug>

I do see what you're saying about Bubbles. To the point where I'm almost tempted to vote for him over Lagom today.

Bah. Wish we had more info....

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Mon Feb 25, 2013 12:10 pm

I was about to question Remus also on why would he jump so soon on Scoop if he thinks he sees what he is planning and likes it.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Mon Feb 25, 2013 12:11 pm

Man, offline for a weekend and Lagom's the new train apparently. Which surprises me a bit - he hasn't been too high on my threat list.

Anyways, with the deadline Wednesday time to do some re-reading today (probably this evening) to make my call. I'm still inclined to think Mr. Bubbles, but I should give some re-reading thought to Lagom I suppose.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Mon Feb 25, 2013 12:15 pm

I do like his play - depending on the follow through. If he disappears then it turns into a delaying tactic rather than an information grab.

Actually, since we are at this point (the vote being where it is) I may as well go ahead and say what I think his play is. I think he is the shooter and wanted a vote regarding who he will shoot today. That way we get to look at that vote as though it were an extra day's worth of information along with having him as a known. It only works if he acts soon enough for us to discuss the outcome though - him as known and the results of the shot as known.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Mon Feb 25, 2013 12:20 pm

Remus West wrote: Actually, since we are at this point (the vote being where it is) I may as well go ahead and say what I think his play is. I think he is the shooter and wanted a vote regarding who he will shoot today. That way we get to look at that vote as though it were an extra day's worth of information along with having him as a known. It only works if he acts soon enough for us to discuss the outcome though - him as known and the results of the shot as known.

one possibility, I agree. There is also another that crossed my mind.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Mon Feb 25, 2013 12:29 pm

Lassr wrote:
Remus West wrote: Actually, since we are at this point (the vote being where it is) I may as well go ahead and say what I think his play is. I think he is the shooter and wanted a vote regarding who he will shoot today. That way we get to look at that vote as though it were an extra day's worth of information along with having him as a known. It only works if he acts soon enough for us to discuss the outcome though - him as known and the results of the shot as known.
one possibility, I agree. There is also another that crossed my mind.

Mostly what I am saying is that if there is follow through - today - with time to discuss the outcome then I remain in favor of this play. If this becomes a buy for time then it hurts us much more than it helps as it will actually stifle information rather than provide it.

RMC · Post by **RMC** » Mon Feb 25, 2013 12:32 pm

Remus West wrote:
Lassr wrote:
Remus West wrote: Actually, since we are at this point (the vote being where it is) I may as well go ahead and say what I think his play is. I think he is the shooter and wanted a vote regarding who he will shoot today. That way we get to look at that vote as though it were an extra day's worth of information along with having him as a known. It only works if he acts soon enough for us to discuss the outcome though - him as known and the results of the shot as known.
one possibility, I agree. There is also another that crossed my mind.
Mostly what I am saying is that if there is follow through - today - with time to discuss the outcome then I remain in favor of this play. If this becomes a buy for time then it hurts us much more than it helps as it will actually stifle information rather than provide it.

Yeah with Scoop, you never know. He is a wily one, I just hope he is on the side of good...

Mr Bubbles · Post by **Mr Bubbles** » Mon Feb 25, 2013 1:37 pm

pr0ner wrote:
RMC wrote:I will admit Lagom, did not make my 'threat' list per se. I have had Mr. Bubbles and a few floating others on my list.

But silents are always on my list. <shrug>
It's pretty bad when Bubbles and Lagom are seen as silents and I'm not!

It goes to show you that people are biased in their thinking, but I've always been an easy target for the lazy.

Mr Bubbles · Post by **Mr Bubbles** » Mon Feb 25, 2013 1:45 pm

Man.. Not that I am panicked at all, but I don't see what I've done that has caused suspicion. I see many other people who have tried to manipulate perceptions that are way more interesting targets. Either way we are running low on misses, so hopefully you don't fixate on me too much. That would be unfortunate.

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Mon Feb 25, 2013 1:50 pm

withdrawal Lagom Lite

Le me catch up.

Vorret · Post by **Vorret** » Mon Feb 25, 2013 2:13 pm

Scoop20906 wrote: withdrawal Lagom Lite

Le me catch up.

You guys are so confusing.

Mr Bubbles · Post by **Mr Bubbles** » Mon Feb 25, 2013 2:29 pm

Vorret wrote:
Scoop20906 wrote: withdrawal Lagom Lite

Le me catch up.
You guys are so confusing.

Isn't that the point. Confuse us to the point where our aim is off just enough to buy a couple days. Guarantee you some of the wolves are the most vocal. We have been led wrong to this point.

Vorret · Post by **Vorret** » Mon Feb 25, 2013 2:43 pm

It sure is working.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Mon Feb 25, 2013 2:53 pm

Remus West wrote:I do like his play - depending on the follow through. If he disappears then it turns into a delaying tactic rather than an information grab.

Actually, since we are at this point (the vote being where it is) I may as well go ahead and say what I think his play is. I think he is the shooter and wanted a vote regarding who he will shoot today. That way we get to look at that vote as though it were an extra day's worth of information along with having him as a known. It only works if he acts soon enough for us to discuss the outcome though - him as known and the results of the shot as known.

I'm keeping my vote on Scoop for now. A shooter should shoot, and a Scoop shooter should shoot sooner.

Actually I just wanted to type that last sentence. Reviewing recent posts now.

RMC · Post by **RMC** » Mon Feb 25, 2013 2:55 pm

Scoops back, so I will put my vote back on.

Lagom Lite

pr0ner · Post by **pr0ner** » Mon Feb 25, 2013 3:03 pm

RMC wrote:Scoops back, so I will put my vote back on.

Lagom Lite

He's back, has nothing to add yet, and you still want to vote for Lagom?

Uhh....

Withdraw Lagom Lite