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You may smile and murder while you smile.Scoop20906 wrote:Well, you are still firmly in my "Leaning Good due to the Berserker Wolf Comments" category.Holman wrote:I read and read, and I'm still left with the sense that Scoop is somehow trying to hide in plan sight. My vote stays on him.
You still either don't see what I'm saying, are not tryig to see it, or just don't want people (mainly me I suppose) to think you see it.Scoop20906 wrote:You've done nothing else but sit back and watch really.Remus West wrote:/Shakes his head sadly at the two of you.
You really do not get it do you, Scoop? Of course I was looking for a specific reaction from you regarding a very specific role. I have almost nothing without it. I can not decide if you are evil or simply misguided that badly. I still think Lassr is simply misguided.
Well What do you see, then? Where is your vote?pr0ner wrote:You would think so, but obviously RMC doesn't see it that way.
Also, this really bothers me. Lassr's panties are all wadded up because I stirred things up so much and yours because all I've done is sit back and watch. Those two positions are contradictory.Scoop20906 wrote:You've done nothing else but sit back and watch really.Remus West wrote:/Shakes his head sadly at the two of you.
You really do not get it do you, Scoop? Of course I was looking for a specific reaction from you regarding a very specific role. I have almost nothing without it. I can not decide if you are evil or simply misguided that badly. I still think Lassr is simply misguided.
That is the one thing you did back on day 1. Created a lot of confusion. Since then you have been more of a watcher. And the wadded panties are causing a rash from friction and it is irritating the hell out of me. But it is only causing me to walk funny, not causing me to think you are a wolf.Remus West wrote:Also, this really bothers me. Lassr's panties are all wadded up because I stirred things up so much and yours because all I've done is sit back and watch. Those two positions are contradictory.Scoop20906 wrote:You've done nothing else but sit back and watch really.Remus West wrote:/Shakes his head sadly at the two of you.
You really do not get it do you, Scoop? Of course I was looking for a specific reaction from you regarding a very specific role. I have almost nothing without it. I can not decide if you are evil or simply misguided that badly. I still think Lassr is simply misguided.
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You missed the point of my comment. Scoop wanted people to wait before we started voting for Lagom again so he could info dump, yet, as soon as Scoop checked back in, without info dumping, you voted for Lagom.RMC wrote:Well What do you see, then? Where is your vote?pr0ner wrote:You would think so, but obviously RMC doesn't see it that way.
I have outlined why I think what I think. Might not be the best logic, but it is the logic I am using.
Then why aren't you voting for someone?Mr Bubbles wrote:Isn't that the point. Confuse us to the point where our aim is off just enough to buy a couple days. Guarantee you some of the wolves are the most vocal. We have been led wrong to this point.Vorret wrote:You guys are so confusing.Scoop20906 wrote: withdrawal Lagom Lite
Le me catch up.
I thought you were walking funny because you picked up the soap Scoop dropped.Lassr wrote:That is the one thing you did back on day 1. Created a lot of confusion. Since then you have been more of a watcher. And the wadded panties are causing a rash from friction and it is irritating the hell out of me. But it is only causing me to walk funny, not causing me to think you are a wolf.Remus West wrote:Also, this really bothers me. Lassr's panties are all wadded up because I stirred things up so much and yours because all I've done is sit back and watch. Those two positions are contradictory.Scoop20906 wrote:You've done nothing else but sit back and watch really.Remus West wrote:/Shakes his head sadly at the two of you.
You really do not get it do you, Scoop? Of course I was looking for a specific reaction from you regarding a very specific role. I have almost nothing without it. I can not decide if you are evil or simply misguided that badly. I still think Lassr is simply misguided.
What bothers me is Scoop is trying so hard to tell us he's not a wolf that it's now having the opposite effect.Remus West wrote:I thought you were walking funny because you picked up the soap Scoop dropped.Lassr wrote:That is the one thing you did back on day 1. Created a lot of confusion. Since then you have been more of a watcher. And the wadded panties are causing a rash from friction and it is irritating the hell out of me. But it is only causing me to walk funny, not causing me to think you are a wolf.Remus West wrote:Also, this really bothers me. Lassr's panties are all wadded up because I stirred things up so much and yours because all I've done is sit back and watch. Those two positions are contradictory.Scoop20906 wrote:You've done nothing else but sit back and watch really.Remus West wrote:/Shakes his head sadly at the two of you.
You really do not get it do you, Scoop? Of course I was looking for a specific reaction from you regarding a very specific role. I have almost nothing without it. I can not decide if you are evil or simply misguided that badly. I still think Lassr is simply misguided.
I'm sticking with my vorret vote but Scoop's play now looks very bad to me. I liked the play when I thought he had something to back it up. Showing he literally has nothing backing his efforts makes it look more like he was trying to make a special panic or feel threatened and make a premature claim.
If Scoop is evil then the interactions between he and Holman/RMC become more interesting given that he used the same incident to clear the two of them. Throw Lassr into the mix from the same incident and it looks like a wolf sucking up to the crowd to build a support base. The question becomes whether or not he hid a partner in the group he "cleared".
then are we at a point that Scoop has become such a distraction that we need to lynch him to see what he is and to eliminate any distraction going forward so we can focus on finding wolves?Vorret wrote: What bothers me is Scoop is trying so hard to tell us he's not a wolf that it's now having the opposite effect.
I hate that at this stage of the game, where there's ALOT on the line we have to vote on a simple hunch. I really thought Scoop was going to come out with some great info and we'd have a clearer picture of the whole thing, now we're back to guessing and we haven't had good guesses so far!Lassr wrote:then are we at a point that Scoop has become such a distraction that we need to lynch him to see what he is and to eliminate any distraction going forward so we can focus on finding wolves?Vorret wrote: What bothers me is Scoop is trying so hard to tell us he's not a wolf that it's now having the opposite effect.
I have advocated this for myself in games where everyone was convinced I was a wolf and would not listen to me and thus they lost focus on finding the actual wolves.
I have said this feels like the good Scoop from past games. If he is evil then kudos to him but if we must eliminate him to move forward then now is the time.
I'd rather vote Remus today. Vorret a distant 2nd.
well, you are at a disadvantage being new...unless you are a wolf then it benefits you because we have no feel for you. That is one of the reason you are on my list, I'm just not sure that I can read you later at crunch time. And if you are being well coached by other wolves it could make it even more difficult.Vorret wrote:I hate that at this stage of the game, where there's ALOT on the line we have to vote on a simple hunch. I really thought Scoop was going to come out with some great info and we'd have a clearer picture of the whole thing, now we're back to guessing and we haven't had good guesses so far!Lassr wrote:then are we at a point that Scoop has become such a distraction that we need to lynch him to see what he is and to eliminate any distraction going forward so we can focus on finding wolves?Vorret wrote: What bothers me is Scoop is trying so hard to tell us he's not a wolf that it's now having the opposite effect.
I have advocated this for myself in games where everyone was convinced I was a wolf and would not listen to me and thus they lost focus on finding the actual wolves.
I have said this feels like the good Scoop from past games. If he is evil then kudos to him but if we must eliminate him to move forward then now is the time.
I'd rather vote Remus today. Vorret a distant 2nd.
Umm... I voted for him before, so I could care less about the info dump. I gave my reasons for voting for him.pr0ner wrote:You missed the point of my comment. Scoop wanted people to wait before we started voting for Lagom again so he could info dump, yet, as soon as Scoop checked back in, without info dumping, you voted for Lagom.RMC wrote:Well What do you see, then? Where is your vote?pr0ner wrote:You would think so, but obviously RMC doesn't see it that way.
I have outlined why I think what I think. Might not be the best logic, but it is the logic I am using.
Here, then this post will help you, wolf.Mr Bubbles wrote:I have been leaning more toward scoop. He is more of a distraction than a benefit. I could see him being a wolf and just hoping that it would buy another day or two to improve their number enough to really push our backs against the wall. I could vote for Lagom, Remus, but I'm leaning more toward Scoop each time he posts.
So after your push for LL you are now pushing for these three Scoop?Scoop20906 wrote:Here, then this post will help you, wolf.Mr Bubbles wrote:I have been leaning more toward scoop. He is more of a distraction than a benefit. I could see him being a wolf and just hoping that it would buy another day or two to improve their number enough to really push our backs against the wall. I could vote for Lagom, Remus, but I'm leaning more toward Scoop each time he posts.
I made my play knowing full well it could backfire and I could be lynched.
I have rarely seen a wolves do that especially when there has been no heat on them up to that point.
I'm fine with lynching me today but realize you are just making the wolves job easier. They do not want me to last into the night and have to make a hard decision on whether to off me.
Again, here are my three:
Remus West
Vorret
Mr Bubbles
You keep saying that but you undermined any truth there was to it. You have openly stated you are NOT either special role. Them killing you is pointless. You are clearly suspected by a portion of the village. You have no means to find them. Your current number 1 target is not them. They have no motivation to kill you in the night. I have a feeling tomorrow you'll be talking about all the things I just pointed out to explain your survival.Scoop20906 wrote:They do not want me to last into the night and have to make a hard decision on whether to off me.
I kind of agree with Remus on this one. But I don't think either of you are wolves... currently..Remus West wrote:You keep saying that but you undermined any truth there was to it. You have openly stated you are NOT either special role. Them killing you is pointless. You are clearly suspected by a portion of the village. You have no means to find them. Your current number 1 target is not them. They have no motivation to kill you in the night. I have a feeling tomorrow you'll be talking about all the things I just pointed out to explain your survival.Scoop20906 wrote:They do not want me to last into the night and have to make a hard decision on whether to off me.
Hell, at this point I'm a better target for the night kill than you are. We are about equal in people talking about being willing to lynch us but at least I have left them guessing as to whether or not I have a special role. You haven't even done that much.
If Scoop is indeed not a wolf, then it is to their advantage to keep him alive as much as possible. I definitely agree with this post. I still suspect him more and more, because for example "they do not want me to last into the night" is just so glaringly wrong. He has sewed seeds of confusion, hell if he isn't evil then he is still working for them.Remus West wrote:You keep saying that but you undermined any truth there was to it. You have openly stated you are NOT either special role. Them killing you is pointless. You are clearly suspected by a portion of the village. You have no means to find them. Your current number 1 target is not them. They have no motivation to kill you in the night. I have a feeling tomorrow you'll be talking about all the things I just pointed out to explain your survival.Scoop20906 wrote:They do not want me to last into the night and have to make a hard decision on whether to off me.
Hell, at this point I'm a better target for the night kill than you are. We are about equal in people talking about being willing to lynch us but at least I have left them guessing as to whether or not I have a special role. You haven't even done that much.
So either he's a great wolf or he's nothing and screwing all of us or he's a special who just pulled the best miioove ever....Mr Bubbles wrote:If Scoop is indeed not a wolf, then it is to their advantage to keep him alive as much as possible. I definitely agree with this post. I still suspect him more and more, because for example "they do not want me to last into the night" is just so glaringly wrong. He has sewed seeds of confusion, hell if he isn't evil then he is still working for them.Remus West wrote:You keep saying that but you undermined any truth there was to it. You have openly stated you are NOT either special role. Them killing you is pointless. You are clearly suspected by a portion of the village. You have no means to find them. Your current number 1 target is not them. They have no motivation to kill you in the night. I have a feeling tomorrow you'll be talking about all the things I just pointed out to explain your survival.Scoop20906 wrote:They do not want me to last into the night and have to make a hard decision on whether to off me.
Hell, at this point I'm a better target for the night kill than you are. We are about equal in people talking about being willing to lynch us but at least I have left them guessing as to whether or not I have a special role. You haven't even done that much.
I am glad that El Guapo is on your list. I was afraid he was going to stay completely under the radar the entire game.Lassr wrote:Of my original list that leaves Remus, vorret, and El Guapo with Lagom dropping off. Mr Bubbles has crept back up the list. And I need to rethink Holman and Pr0ner. Still not sure where I stand on them.
He is.pr0ner wrote:I am glad that El Guapo is on your list. I was afraid he was going to stay completely under the radar the entire game.Lassr wrote:Of my original list that leaves Remus, vorret, and El Guapo with Lagom dropping off. Mr Bubbles has crept back up the list. And I need to rethink Holman and Pr0ner. Still not sure where I stand on them.
Any particular reason you don't want to test Remus?pr0ner wrote:I have no reason for this but a hunch, but
El Guapo
Because, for whatever reason (that I cannot articulate), he doesn't set off any alarm bells like other people.Scoop20906 wrote:Any particular reason you don't want to test Remus?pr0ner wrote:I have no reason for this but a hunch, but
El Guapo
DEADLINE IS WEDNESDAY 2/27 6 pm pst (9 pm EST) So he's the quiet wolf laying low and trying not to draw attention to himself?pr0ner wrote:Because, for whatever reason (that I cannot articulate), he doesn't set off any alarm bells like other people.Scoop20906 wrote:Any particular reason you don't want to test Remus?pr0ner wrote:I have no reason for this but a hunch, but
El Guapo
So now I'm quiet? You really need to make up your mind what you'd like to base your incorrect assertions upon before posting such a multitude of malleable reasons.Lassr wrote:So he's the quiet wolf laying low and trying not to draw attention to himself?pr0ner wrote:Because, for whatever reason (that I cannot articulate), he doesn't set off any alarm bells like other people.Scoop20906 wrote:Any particular reason you don't want to test Remus?pr0ner wrote:I have no reason for this but a hunch, but
El Guapo
I quoted the wrong post. I meant to quote the El Guapo vote post.Remus West wrote:So now I'm quiet? You really need to make up your mind what you'd like to base your incorrect assertions upon before posting such a multitude of malleable reasons.Lassr wrote:So he's the quiet wolf laying low and trying not to draw attention to himself?pr0ner wrote:Because, for whatever reason (that I cannot articulate), he doesn't set off any alarm bells like other people.Scoop20906 wrote:Any particular reason you don't want to test Remus?pr0ner wrote:I have no reason for this but a hunch, but
El Guapo
I'm beginning to think you're trying to get me killed.
So he's the quiet wolf laying low and trying not to draw attention to himself?pr0ner wrote:I have no reason for this but a hunch, but
El Guapo
Yes. As I said, it's a hunch, and nothing more.Lassr wrote:So he's the quiet wolf laying low and trying not to draw attention to himself?pr0ner wrote:I have no reason for this but a hunch, but
El Guapo
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I agree but we haven't had enough momentum to test anyone yet. We are very divided in our opinions in this game.Mr Bubbles wrote:He very well maybe. Unfortunately we have to pick someone today. I need to reread thing today and place my vote, but I'm not sure if we could get enough momentum to test him.
Indeed, it's been a problem and that's why the wolves are winning.Lassr wrote:I agree but we haven't had enough momentum to test anyone yet. We are very divided in our opinions in this game.Mr Bubbles wrote:He very well maybe. Unfortunately we have to pick someone today. I need to reread thing today and place my vote, but I'm not sure if we could get enough momentum to test him.
Why not. I would like to see your top 3.Vorret wrote:Indeed, it's been a problem and that's why the wolves are winning.Lassr wrote:I agree but we haven't had enough momentum to test anyone yet. We are very divided in our opinions in this game.Mr Bubbles wrote:He very well maybe. Unfortunately we have to pick someone today. I need to reread thing today and place my vote, but I'm not sure if we could get enough momentum to test him.
Idea... should we name our top 3 and whoever comes up the most often gets hanged? I'm trying to figure out the best way to get a wolf, technicly, at some point, our instict will hit the right target.
