Lynching Liaisons - The End

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Mon Jun 03, 2013 2:13 pm

Newcastle wrote:finish him!

baktosh

Sorcerer?

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Mon Jun 03, 2013 2:13 pm

Newcastle wrote:OK LETS gives him some breathing room

withdraw baktosh

Newcastle wrote:finish him!

baktosh

bb2112 · Post by **bb2112** » Mon Jun 03, 2013 2:13 pm

Newcastle wrote:finish him!

baktosh

And catching up... NC... NC... NC...

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Mon Jun 03, 2013 2:14 pm

LordMortis wrote:
Newcastle wrote:finish him!

baktosh

Sorcerer?

And I hope he's a wolf. That would make me laugh to find out end game you are the sorcerer and killed a wolf on day one with chaotic play.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Mon Jun 03, 2013 2:15 pm

LordMortis wrote:
Newcastle wrote:finish him!

baktosh

Sorcerer?

That is my thinking. He can claim a special and then show up human if/when we lynch him

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Mon Jun 03, 2013 2:16 pm

I mean, the upshot is that we had essentially decided on Bakhtosh, only we were trying to maximize the information obtained in the process, and realistically this is about as much info as we could hope for out of the final vote, especially since I'd wager Bakhtosh was not going to show up today.

My guess for Bakhtosh is villager or runt.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Mon Jun 03, 2013 2:17 pm

Lassr wrote:
LordMortis wrote:
Newcastle wrote:finish him!

baktosh

Sorcerer?

That is my thinking. He can claim a special and then show up human if/when we lynch him

Might be risky for him as he could wind up drawing a seer scan though, right?

RMC · Post by **RMC** » Mon Jun 03, 2013 2:17 pm

Lassr wrote:
Newcastle wrote:OK LETS gives him some breathing room

withdraw baktosh

Newcastle wrote:finish him!

baktosh

How far apart are these votes? This just seems way too chaotic for newcastle.

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Mon Jun 03, 2013 2:23 pm

El Guapo wrote:
Lassr wrote:
LordMortis wrote:
Newcastle wrote:finish him!

baktosh

Sorcerer?

That is my thinking. He can claim a special and then show up human if/when we lynch him
Might be risky for him as he could wind up drawing a seer scan though, right?

Sorcerer doesn't care. Lynching him counts against the village. I've been sorcerer in just a few times and it's the exact move I would make, though I would probably not have done it on day one on a foregone conclusion unless I felt not hearing from Bakhtosh was really going to change the game.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Mon Jun 03, 2013 2:25 pm

bb2112 wrote:
Unagi wrote:
bb2112 wrote:All I'm saying on the time thing is that waiting until tonight is fine, but waiting for another 24 hours is too long in my opinion. I am also telling you that I am going to place the last vote tonight. If LL wants to do it, whatever. I think there is slightly (probably in reality, not much) more value inseeing who casts that vote than having LL do it. LL is pretty much a trusted so you learn absolutely nothing if he does it. Hell, maybe you learn nothing either way, but I know I would rather see someone else do it, when they do it, what they say when they do it, and see who that someone else is. If you don't care, then that is your option.
You would rather see someone else do it, and yet you are telling the entire world that you will do it later tonight.

The only thing that will do is keep that 'interesting party that may place the last vote' sit back and let you do it.

IMO, that's an odd think to forecast... doublely weird under the banner of 'for the data!'.
So you are saying you are so sure of me that you don't care if I vote or even when I vote? And what if after I announce that I am going to place the last vote I don't? Or what if someone else jumps in front of me and votes before I get a chance to? Does this not yield something? At least something better than just having trusted LL place the last vote which yields nothing? Unagi, you are better than this.

What he was saying, I think, is that by announcing "I'm going to be the final vote" you ruined any information gained. Of course, Newcastle went and ruined that whole idea though so.....

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Mon Jun 03, 2013 2:26 pm

Cabal scan Holman. At some point the wolves will kill Lagom or one of the other Cabal. That is when they need to check Bahktosh. Right now it is more important to know what the wolves know.

bb2112 · Post by **bb2112** » Mon Jun 03, 2013 2:27 pm

Well, we learned something by NC jumping on that vote. I am not sure what, but is extremely odd that he pulled his vote only to cap him a couple hours later. Almost like he was suckering someone to put Baktosh to N-1 so he could do it.

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Mon Jun 03, 2013 2:27 pm

a. i wanted to scoop him! So that was the major draw
b. what were the odds Baktosh was going to show up? Seriously?
c. what if he is a wolf and claims X? what do we do then? go back to the drawing board with 3 days left to a deadline?
D. Most of you were resigned to lynching him? Right?
E. My withdrawal was made in the hopes someone would drop him to n-1 so i could swoop in and scoop him.
F. and yeah i prevented him from talking, but again, he's not been around for close to a week. I'd think someoen with a role would at least participate more. And if he does have a role, let this be a lesson. Participate some.
G. Dont hate me because I swooped you guys on the killing blow!

RMC · Post by **RMC** » Mon Jun 03, 2013 2:29 pm

bb2112 wrote:Well, we learned something by NC jumping on that vote. I am not sure what, but is extremely odd that he pulled his vote only to cap him a couple hours later. Almost like he was suckering someone to put Baktosh to N-1 so he could do it.

Yeah..It was either chaotic, or a chance to see who wanted to jump on and not be the killing blow... <shrug>

So it raises some questions on a few of the voters...Kinda..But sure puts newcastle out there.

RMC · Post by **RMC** » Mon Jun 03, 2013 2:30 pm

Newcastle wrote:a. i wanted to scoop him! So that was the major draw
b. what were the odds Baktosh was going to show up? Seriously?
c. what if he is a wolf and claims X? what do we do then? go back to the drawing board with 3 days left to a deadline?
D. Most of you were resigned to lynching him? Right?
E. My withdrawal was made in the hopes someone would drop him to n-1 so i could swoop in and scoop him.
F. and yeah i prevented him from talking, but again, he's not been around for close to a week. I'd think someoen with a role would at least participate more. And if he does have a role, let this be a lesson. Participate some.
G. Dont hate me because I swooped you guys on the killing blow!

Yeah... Okay....Sure...Got it...

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Mon Jun 03, 2013 2:41 pm

Bakhtosh

Last visited: Tue May 28, 2013 3:04 pm

That's when he:

Post subject: Re: Lynching Liaisons - Day 1
Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 2:33 pm

Withdraw RMC

I still think RMC & Theohall are likely candidates for wolf, but redrun

is literally howling.

And left.

1) I hope no disasters hit his household
2) This could be good.

triggercut · Post by **triggercut** » Mon Jun 03, 2013 3:06 pm

Newcastle wrote:a. i wanted to scoop him! So that was the major draw
b. what were the odds Baktosh was going to show up? Seriously?
c. what if he is a wolf and claims X? what do we do then? go back to the drawing board with 3 days left to a deadline?
D. Most of you were resigned to lynching him? Right?
E. My withdrawal was made in the hopes someone would drop him to n-1 so i could swoop in and scoop him.
F. and yeah i prevented him from talking, but again, he's not been around for close to a week. I'd think someoen with a role would at least participate more. And if he does have a role, let this be a lesson. Participate some.
G. Dont hate me because I swooped you guys on the killing blow!

A claim at that point--even if by a wolf--is of some value. Heck, even if he was an important villager role, at this point a claim would do some good versus letting him hang.

So there's that.

We have had many occasions of going back to the drawing board in less time than we have now.

Absent further information, I think I'm putting a vote in on you tomorrow and leaving it there with the stubbornness of theohall.

triggercut · Post by **triggercut** » Mon Jun 03, 2013 3:09 pm

Newcastle wrote:a. i wanted to scoop him! So that was the major draw
b. what were the odds Baktosh was going to show up? Seriously?
c. what if he is a wolf and claims X? what do we do then? go back to the drawing board with 3 days left to a deadline?
D. Most of you were resigned to lynching him? Right?
E. My withdrawal was made in the hopes someone would drop him to n-1 so i could swoop in and scoop him.
F. and yeah i prevented him from talking, but again, he's not been around for close to a week. I'd think someoen with a role would at least participate more. And if he does have a role, let this be a lesson. Participate some.
G. Dont hate me because I swooped you guys on the killing blow!

"You ain't talkin' your way outta this shit."

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Mon Jun 03, 2013 3:16 pm

Day 1 Final Vote Count

Spoiler:

Scoop acc Qantaga (1)
Bakhtosh acc Newcastle (1)
bb2112 acc LordMortis (1)
tru1cy acc Grundbegriff (1)
Lassr acc redrun (1)
theohall acc Chaosraven (1)
LordMortis acc bb2112 (1)
Lagom Lite acc Chaosraven (2)
Remus West acc Newcastle (2)
Bakhtosh wd Newcastle (1)
Bakhtosh acc RMC (1)
Vorret acc Grundbegriff (2)
redrun acc Lassr (1)
El Guapo acc Newcastle (2)
RMC acc El Guapo (1)
Lagom Lite wd Chaosraven (1)
Lagom LIte acc Scoop (1)
Unagi acc pr0ner (1)
pr0ner acc Newcastle (3)
bb2112 wd LordMortis (0)
bb2112 acc Qantaga (2)
Scoop wd Qantaga (1)
Scoop acc Newcastle (4)
theohall wd Chaosraven (0)
theohall acc Grundbegriff (3)
bb2112 wd Qantaga (0)
bb2112 acc Newcastle (5)
Newcastle acc Grundbegriff (4)
Lagom LIte wd Scoop (0)
Lagom Lite acc Grundbegriff (5)
LordMortis wd bb2112 (0)
LordMortis acc Qantaga (1)
Unagi wd pr0ner (0)
Unagi acc theohall (1)
LordMortis wd Qantaga (0)
LordMortis acc theohall (2)
Vorret wd Grund (4)
bb2112 wd Newcastle (4)
bb2112 acc Lagom LIte (1)
Scoop wd Newcastle (3)
Scoop acc El Guapo (2)
trig acc Scoop (1)
theohall wd Grund (3)
tru1cy wd Grund (2)
Lagom wd Grund (1)
Lagom acc Scoop (2)
theohall acc Unagi (1)
LordMortis wd theohall (1)
Qantaga acc Lagom Lite (2)
bb2112 wd Lagom Lite (1)
bb2112 acc theohall (2)
redrun wd Lassr (0)
redrun acc Qantaga (1)
bb2112 wd theohall (1)
bb2112 acc Qantaga (2)
Chaos acc Qantaga (3)
Remus wd Newcastle (2)
Remus acc redrun (2)
Lagom wd Scoop (1)
Lagom acc Qantaga (4)
theohall wd Unagi (0)
theohall acc bb2112 (1)
RMC wd El Guapo (0)
RMC acc redrun (3)
LordMortis acc theohall (2)
Bakhtosh wd RMC (0)
Bakhtosh acc redrun (4)
tru1cy acc redrun (5)
Vorret acc redrun (6)
El Guapo wd Newcastle (1)
El Guapo acc theohall (3)
pr0ner wd Newcastle (0)
pr0ner acc triggercut (1)
Scoop wd El Guapo (0)
Scoop acc triggercut (2)
Lagom wd Qantaga (3)
Lagom acc El Guapo (1)
theohall wd bb2112 (0)
theohall acc triggercut (3)
triggercut wd Scoop (0)
triggercut acc Lagom (2)
LordMortis wd theohall (2)
LordMortis acc Vorret (1)
triggercut wd Lagom (1)
triggercut acc theohall (3)
Vorret wd redrun (5)
Vorret acc triggercut (4)
Qantaga wd Lagom (0)
triggercut wd theohall (2)
triggercut acc Vorret (2)
tru1cy wd redrun (4)
Remus wd redrun (3)
Lassr wd redrun (2)
Unagi wd theohall (1)
Unagi acc Scoop (1)
redrun wd Qantaga (2)
bb2112 wd Qantaga (1)
bb2112 acc Purge (1)
Chaosraven wd Qantaga (0)
Chaosraven acc Remus West (1)
tru1cy acc redrun (3)
Vorret wd triggercut
redrun acc Remus (2)
Newcastle wd Grund (0)
Newcastle acc Lassr (1)
Qantaga acc Bakhtosh (1)
Lagom Lite wd El Guapo (0)
theohall wd triggercut (2)
theohall acc bb2112 (1)
Unagi wd Scoop (0)
Unagi acc Bakhtosh (2)
Chaosraven wd Remus (1)
Chaosraven acc Bakhtosh (3)
pr0ner wd triggercut (1)
pr0ner acc Bakhtosh (4)
Newcastle wd Lassr (0)
Newcastle acc Bakhtosh (5)
Lassr acc Bakhtosh (6)
Scoop wd triggercut (0)
Scoop acc Bakhtosh (7)
tru1cy wd redrun (2)
tru1cy acc Bakhtosh (8)
Vorret acc Bakhtosh (9)
LordMortis wd Vorret (1)
LordMortis acc Bakhtosh (10)
Newcastle wd Bakhtosh (9)
Remus West acc Bakhtosh (10)
Newcastle acc Bakhtosh (11)

Votes required for lynch - 11

Against Bakhtosh (11) - Qantaga, Unagi, Chaosraven, pr0ner, Lassr, Scoop, tru1cy, Vorret, LordMortis, Remus West, Newcastle
Against redrun (2) - RMC, Bakhtosh
Against Vorret (1) - triggercut
Against Remus (1) - redrun
Against theohall (1) - El Guapo
Against Purge (1) - bb2112
Against bb2112 (1) - theohall

No votes (3) - Purge, Grundbegriff, Lagom Lite

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Mon Jun 03, 2013 3:17 pm

Write up in a while - work is busy.

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Mon Jun 03, 2013 3:17 pm

Against Bakhtosh (11) - Qantaga, Unagi, Chaosraven, pr0ner, Newcastle, Lassr, Scoop, tru1cy, Vorret, LordMortis

Needs a Remus West

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Mon Jun 03, 2013 3:18 pm

LordMortis wrote:
Against Bakhtosh (11) - Qantaga, Unagi, Chaosraven, pr0ner, Newcastle, Lassr, Scoop, tru1cy, Vorret, LordMortis
Needs a Remus West

And possibly a change of order if integrity order is maintained.

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Mon Jun 03, 2013 3:19 pm

Tricky bastard.

Qantaga · Post by **Qantaga** » Mon Jun 03, 2013 3:20 pm

Newcastle wrote:a. i wanted to scoop him! So that was the major draw
b. what were the odds Baktosh was going to show up? Seriously?
c. what if he is a wolf and claims X? what do we do then? go back to the drawing board with 3 days left to a deadline?
D. Most of you were resigned to lynching him? Right?
E. My withdrawal was made in the hopes someone would drop him to n-1 so i could swoop in and scoop him.
F. and yeah i prevented him from talking, but again, he's not been around for close to a week. I'd think someoen with a role would at least participate more. And if he does have a role, let this be a lesson. Participate some.
G. Dont hate me because I swooped you guys on the killing blow!

Your list conspicuously omits:

H. What if he is a good special?

As to your point C, that is completely nonsensical.

- If he's a wolf and claimed X, we would have solid false data on the record. We had two wolves claim two roles last game and it worked out just fine for us.

- Bakhtosh went from 2 votes to dead in 19 hours snd 4 minutes. Your claim that you don't think 3 days is enough time to make a decision is make believe.

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Mon Jun 03, 2013 3:21 pm

you guys are just jelly you didnt get the killing blow!

Qantaga · Post by **Qantaga** » Mon Jun 03, 2013 3:22 pm

Posting from my phone while working took awhile to compose, so I missed trig's similar post above.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Mon Jun 03, 2013 3:32 pm

El Guapo wrote:My guess for Bakhtosh is villager or runt.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Mon Jun 03, 2013 3:36 pm

Remus West wrote:
El Guapo wrote:My guess for Bakhtosh is villager or runt.

Just a wild ass guess. Bakhtosh dropping off the face of the earth to me doesn't look calculated to me, it suggests more just busy and/or loss of interest. Which suggests not a dominant / special role. Which would mean unpowered villager (if good) or runt (if evil).

Runt being the formal name for the wolf who doesn't make kill decisions unless the other wolves are dead.

Lagom Lite · Post by **Lagom Lite** » Mon Jun 03, 2013 4:17 pm

LordMortis wrote:
pr0ner wrote:What if Bakhtosh is a wolf? What if he's the beserker and we kill him without a chance for him to go boom?
This I can get behind. I don't think we need to wait for him. OTOH, what if LL is playing a double blind game and Bakhtosh is Cabal?

I'm not - Bakhtosh is not Cabal.

Newcastle wrote:question for lagom - the good/maybe/evil list you drew up earlier, was that based on your own observations or of the three in the cabal talking together?

My own observations. We're not allowed to talk in our secret forum during the day - I imagine they have one or two things to say to me tonight!

Newcastle wrote:finish him!

baktosh

whoa

Dude I'm all for speeding the game up but that was a weird play.

...Well I hope I hear from the Mentalist tonight, if you're still out there.

redrun · Post by **redrun** » Mon Jun 03, 2013 4:34 pm

Newcastle wrote:finish him!

baktosh

That was quiet, unobtrusive, and barely noticeable.

So, maybe beserker wolf who is hoping to die tomorrow?

Chaotic move?

Seer who scanned Baktosh and knew he was a wolf?

Can't be a member of the Cabel (at least, according to Lagom's layout).

He's the medium and plans on proving such tomorrow and wanted to do so with Baktosh?

No great guesses here.

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Mon Jun 03, 2013 5:03 pm

Newcastle wrote:a. i wanted to scoop him! So that was the major draw
b. what were the odds Baktosh was going to show up? Seriously?
c. what if he is a wolf and claims X? what do we do then? go back to the drawing board with 3 days left to a deadline?
D. Most of you were resigned to lynching him? Right?
E. My withdrawal was made in the hopes someone would drop him to n-1 so i could swoop in and scoop him.
F. and yeah i prevented him from talking, but again, he's not been around for close to a week. I'd think someoen with a role would at least participate more. And if he does have a role, let this be a lesson. Participate some.
G. Dont hate me because I swooped you guys on the killing blow!

LOL. You bastad! I'm only mad that I didn't try it. Man, not having access during the day really screws with the fun of these games.

Bakhtosh · Post by **Bakhtosh** » Mon Jun 03, 2013 5:49 pm

Geez. Go on vacation, drop your phone in the ocean, and this is what happens...

Lagom Lite · Post by **Lagom Lite** » Mon Jun 03, 2013 5:49 pm

Bakhtosh wrote:Geez. Go on vacation, drop your phone in the ocean, and this is what happens...

What's your role?

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Mon Jun 03, 2013 5:53 pm

Yes, before Stessier does the write up, what is your role?

It is OK because you are not dead yet, just being led away to the gallows. So confess to the top of your lungs!

Bakhtosh · Post by **Bakhtosh** » Mon Jun 03, 2013 5:55 pm

My role is the top of the food chain. Your role is dinner. Who's going with me?

Lagom Lite · Post by **Lagom Lite** » Mon Jun 03, 2013 5:56 pm

Bakhtosh wrote:My role is the top of the food chain. Your role is dinner. Who's going with me?

Bakhtosh · Post by **Bakhtosh** » Mon Jun 03, 2013 5:56 pm

J/k. I'm a villager

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Mon Jun 03, 2013 5:58 pm

The day was long and the Villagers were on edge. Old grudges came to the fore as candidates were suggested for the gallows. Obtaining a consensus was difficult as candidate after candidate was considered and rejected. Finally, as the Sun began to dip toward the horizon, a voice rank out -

"Bakhtosh - wake up!" When there was no response, Qantaga dragged him from under the tree toward the gallows. "So help me, wake up or sleep forever." With the heat making everyone irritable, first Chaos, then Newcastle joined in manhandling his dead weight. As they reached the stairs, more and more people joined until Newcastle slipped the noose around Bakhtosh's neck. As the knot tightened, Newcastle shook himself as if waking from a dream - "What are we doing!?! - Let's give him a chance" he said as he removed the thick cord.

Remus dashed up the platform and said "It's fine - we just want to see what he'll say when he wakes up" and slipped the rope back around his neck. Newcastle smiled and said - "why wait?" and kicked the chair out from under Bakhtosh. The rope stretched taught and a distinct "Crack" rang out over the crowd.

Bakhtosh was dead.

bb2112 · Post by **bb2112** » Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:08 pm

stessier wrote: "Crack" rang out over the crowd.

Crack. Yes, I think crack was involved.

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:30 pm

quick question - does the village get wolf or human result upon lynch? From scanning your write up didnt see that.