Lynching Liaisons - The End

Lagom Lite · Post by **Lagom Lite** » Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:45 am

That was a bad move by Remus. Unless he's the berzerker wolf, in which case it's extraordinary - he got everyone outed except the Hunter, who thankfully chose to stay quiet.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Sun Jun 16, 2013 8:46 am

Because of recent events, it was with a heavy heart that the village woke to the celebrate the Festival of Fathers. Those hearts only got heavier as it was noticed that Qantaga was missing. A search of his hovel confirmed what everyone had come to dread.

Once more the town assembled in the square to begin the vote. Would the luck of the first day return?

Villagers - Who will you lynch today?
Hunter - on whom will you pass your judgement?
Medium - with whom will you speak?

There are 14 villagers alive. The deadline for the lynch vote is Monday, July 1st at 11am Eastern time (please check my math).

Lagom Lite · Post by **Lagom Lite** » Sun Jun 16, 2013 8:48 am

Newcastle wasn't the Seer.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Sun Jun 16, 2013 8:56 am

I was not expecting Qantaga to be their choice at all.

I think if he wasn't the Hunter, and Remus has a scan that's not him - we are likely to have our numbers locked in, right?

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Sun Jun 16, 2013 9:01 am

Unagi wrote:I was not expecting Qantaga to be their choice at all.

I think if he wasn't the Hunter, and Remus has a scan that's not him - we are likely to have our numbers locked in, right?

Qantaga?

They must have been really scared of hitting the protected player. Newcastle was not the seer so that pretty much verifies Remus unless the real seer is playing along with him for some reason.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Sun Jun 16, 2013 9:02 am

Lagom Lite wrote:Newcastle wasn't the Seer.

I actually thought he was gonna be. mostly because of the N-kill that Remus did yesterday.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Sun Jun 16, 2013 9:02 am

I'm leaving in a couple of hours and I'm hoping for Wifi access on vacation. If not at the cabin maybe some restaurant we visit.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Sun Jun 16, 2013 9:31 am

Known Malicious
Bakhtosh

Found Delicious
Holman (sorcerer)

Newcastle (not the Seer)
Qantaga (?)

Well reputed
Lagom Lite
theohall
tru1cy
redrun (confirmed Mentalist)
bb2112 (vivisected unto glory)

Undisputed
Remus West
triggercut

Filled with virtue
Chaosraven (scanned by Remus)
purge (scanned by Remus)
Grundbegriff (self-authenticating)

Maybe hurt you
Lassr
Vorret
RMC
pr0ner
Scoop20906
Unagi
LordMortis
El Guapo

Revelations, there were many.
Did I miss any?

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Sun Jun 16, 2013 9:37 am

Well step 1 is for Remus to report on his scan.

theohall · Post by **theohall** » Sun Jun 16, 2013 9:40 am

El Guapo

theohall · Post by **theohall** » Sun Jun 16, 2013 9:41 am

Grundbegriff wrote:Known Malicious
Bakhtosh

Found Delicious
Holman (villager)
Newcastle (not the Seer)
Qantaga (?)

Well reputed
Lagom Lite
theohall
tru1cy

Undisputed
Remus West
triggercut

Filled with virtue
Grundbegriff

Maybe hurt you
Lassr
Vorret
RMC
Purge
bb2112
pr0ner
Scoop20906
Chaosraven
redrun
Unagi
LordMortis
El Guapo

Revelations, there were many.
Did I miss any?

Per RW, purge and Chaosraven are villagers.

theohall · Post by **theohall** » Sun Jun 16, 2013 9:42 am

theohall wrote:
Grundbegriff wrote:Known Malicious
Bakhtosh

Found Delicious
Holman (villager)
Newcastle (not the Seer)
Qantaga (?)

Well reputed
Lagom Lite
theohall
tru1cy

Undisputed
Remus West
triggercut

Filled with virtue
Grundbegriff

Maybe hurt you
Lassr
Vorret
RMC
Purge
bb2112
pr0ner
Scoop20906
Chaosraven
redrun
Unagi
LordMortis
El Guapo

Revelations, there were many.
Did I miss any?
Per RW, purge and Chaosraven are villagers.

Also, redrun is a known good guy and bb2112 is dead.

theohall · Post by **theohall** » Sun Jun 16, 2013 9:45 am

potential bad guys
Lassr
Vorret
RMC
pr0ner
Scoop20906
Unagi
LordMortis
El Guapo

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Sun Jun 16, 2013 9:54 am

Y'all can stop redditing.
I was still editing!

Fixed:

Grundbegriff wrote:Known Malicious
Bakhtosh

Found Delicious
Holman (sorcerer)
Newcastle (not the Seer)
Qantaga (?)

Well reputed
Lagom Lite
theohall
tru1cy
redrun (confirmed Mentalist)
bb2112 (vivisected unto glory)

Undisputed
Remus West
triggercut

Filled with virtue
Chaosraven (scanned by Remus)
purge (scanned by Remus)
Grundbegriff (self-authenticating)

Maybe hurt you
Lassr
Vorret
RMC
pr0ner
Scoop20906
Unagi
LordMortis
El Guapo

Revelations, there were many.
Did I miss any?

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Sun Jun 16, 2013 9:55 am

El Guapo

triggercut · Post by **triggercut** » Sun Jun 16, 2013 10:58 am

One last edit to G's list: Holman was the Sorc.

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Sun Jun 16, 2013 12:33 pm

Lagom Lite wrote:Newcastle wasn't the Seer.

I would guess he wasn't the Hunter either, as the Furbies seem to be looking for one.
(Logic: killing Special if Hunter known to be dead, rather than working thru Unknown Pile)

theohall · Post by **theohall** » Sun Jun 16, 2013 12:42 pm

Newcastle was a villager. No point in keeping this hidden since the wolves already know.

theohall · Post by **theohall** » Sun Jun 16, 2013 12:44 pm

Interesting that the wolves went looking for the Hunter, since it reduced the number in which they could hide, unless someone is not being honest about his role.

redrun · Post by **redrun** » Sun Jun 16, 2013 1:36 pm

theohall wrote:Interesting that the wolves went looking for the Hunter, since it reduced the number in which they could hide, unless someone is not being honest about his role.

Unless they were looking for the seer, but I see you covered that option in what you said. I'm really curious what Remus will have to say. I'm sorta tending to think he's good, but I will admit that I've got some doubts. Another interesting thought that comes to mind is that the wolves may have another problem - if they avoided both the obvious protection choices today (Remus, Triggercut) they should have no idea of which one was protected - so they might be in the same boat tonight as to not knowing who to go after. If they do shoot blindly tonight, and Remus isn't the seer, I really hope the real seer will step forward tomorrow (today maybe, but tomorrow for sure). Otherwise, I fear they'll hit the real seer, know that they've done so, and kill the medium the following night (when the cabalists will learn that the seer is dead and alert us we need a séance). At this point I would prefer to continue to trust Triggercut and not have a séance today.

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Sun Jun 16, 2013 1:44 pm

I'm at a loss. I didn't understand the final blow. I don't understand last night's killing. So I guess we wait for Remus and hope bb2112 wasn't a special role.

redrun · Post by **redrun** » Sun Jun 16, 2013 2:39 pm

theohall wrote:potential bad guys
Lassr
Vorret
RMC
pr0ner
Scoop20906
Unagi
LordMortis
El Guapo

potential bad guys
Grundbegriff
Lassr
Vorret
RMC
pr0ner
Scoop20906
Unagi
LordMortis
El Guapo

No offense intended, but I prefer a potential bad guy list that doesn't remove the guy who originally posted it.

theohall · Post by **theohall** » Sun Jun 16, 2013 4:44 pm

redrun wrote:
theohall wrote:potential bad guys
Lassr
Vorret
RMC
pr0ner
Scoop20906
Unagi
LordMortis
El Guapo
potential bad guys
Grundbegriff
Lassr
Vorret
RMC
pr0ner
Scoop20906
Unagi
LordMortis
El Guapo

No offense intended, but I prefer a potential bad guy list that doesn't remove the guy who originally posted it.

No problem.

I kinda doubt Grundbegriff is evil at this point. I hope to heck Remus scanned someone from the short list. If he did not, I seriously question his credibility.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Sun Jun 16, 2013 5:34 pm

Grundbegriff wrote: Filled with virtue
Grundbegriff (self-authenticating)

This is pretty slick, I have to say.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Sun Jun 16, 2013 5:35 pm

theohall wrote: I kinda doubt Grundbegriff is evil at this point.

Why?

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Sun Jun 16, 2013 8:31 pm

El Guapo wrote:
theohall wrote: I kinda doubt Grundbegriff is evil at this point.
Why?

I'll glome on to this too.

triggercut · Post by **triggercut** » Sun Jun 16, 2013 8:42 pm

El Guapo wrote:
Grundbegriff wrote: Filled with virtue
Grundbegriff (self-authenticating)
This is pretty slick, I have to say.

I laughed....and noted it.

triggercut · Post by **triggercut** » Sun Jun 16, 2013 8:43 pm

My project tonight:

1. Figure out at what set of confluent circumstances Team Wolf figured "This is not going so hot for us right now."

2. Figure out if anyone on the possible suspects list dramatically altered their posting habits before and then after this sequence of events.

triggercut · Post by **triggercut** » Sun Jun 16, 2013 8:47 pm

El Guapo wrote:
theohall wrote: I kinda doubt Grundbegriff is evil at this point.
Why?

Indeed. My natural suspicions of Grundbegriff only grow with each passing turn he remains alive and unidentified in a game.

theohall · Post by **theohall** » Sun Jun 16, 2013 9:48 pm

triggercut wrote:My project tonight:

1. Figure out at what set of confluent circumstances Team Wolf figured "This is not going so hot for us right now."

2. Figure out if anyone on the possible suspects list dramatically altered their posting habits before and then after this sequence of events.

Take a long look at El Guapo. His "helpfulness" changed significantly from the beginning until being accused.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Sun Jun 16, 2013 10:21 pm

theohall wrote:
triggercut wrote:My project tonight:

1. Figure out at what set of confluent circumstances Team Wolf figured "This is not going so hot for us right now."

2. Figure out if anyone on the possible suspects list dramatically altered their posting habits before and then after this sequence of events.
Take a long look at El Guapo. His "helpfulness" changed significantly from the beginning until being accused.

I mean, I stand by my posts, such as they are. I'm curious about your answer as to why you do not suspect Grundbegriff though.

theohall · Post by **theohall** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 4:36 am

El Guapo wrote:
theohall wrote:
triggercut wrote:My project tonight:

1. Figure out at what set of confluent circumstances Team Wolf figured "This is not going so hot for us right now."

2. Figure out if anyone on the possible suspects list dramatically altered their posting habits before and then after this sequence of events.
Take a long look at El Guapo. His "helpfulness" changed significantly from the beginning until being accused.
I mean, I stand by my posts, such as they are. I'm curious about your answer as to why you do not suspect Grundbegriff though.

Consistency in his limited postings. Compare this to the "why me" tone of your posts when a few of us had accused you. A plain villager does not usually show a "why me" tone.

tru1cy · Post by **tru1cy** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 6:42 am

Waiting on Remus West scan before laying down any thoughts

RMC · Post by **RMC** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 8:59 am

Remus...Where are you????

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 9:02 am

Day 3 Vote Count

Spoiler:

Votes required for lynch - 9

Against El Guapo (2) - theohall, Grundbegriff

No votes (15) - Remus West, Lassr, Vorret, tru1cy, RMC, Purge, pr0ner, Scoop20906, Chaosraven, redrun, triggercut,
Lagom Lite, Unagi, LordMortis, El Guapo

There are 14 villagers + 3 wolves alive. The deadline for the lynch vote is July 1st at 11am Eastern time.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 9:28 am

theohall wrote:
El Guapo wrote:
theohall wrote:
triggercut wrote:My project tonight:

1. Figure out at what set of confluent circumstances Team Wolf figured "This is not going so hot for us right now."

2. Figure out if anyone on the possible suspects list dramatically altered their posting habits before and then after this sequence of events.
Take a long look at El Guapo. His "helpfulness" changed significantly from the beginning until being accused.
I mean, I stand by my posts, such as they are. I'm curious about your answer as to why you do not suspect Grundbegriff though.
Consistency in his limited postings. Compare this to the "why me" tone of your posts when a few of us had accused you. A plain villager does not usually show a "why me" tone.

How hard is it to be consistent when you post five times? But as for the "why me?" part, my whole point was just that the people voting for me mostly hadn't given any reason why. Vote rationales are important, because: (1) it makes it marginally harder for wolves to join in a train unnoticed; and (2) after I would come back villager, it would give useful information for the village to process (whereas a rationale-less vote just gives the difficulty to sort out vote pattern info).

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 9:28 am

RMC wrote:Remus...Where are you????

And this.

theohall · Post by **theohall** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 9:48 am

El Guapo wrote:
theohall wrote:
El Guapo wrote:
theohall wrote:
triggercut wrote:My project tonight:

1. Figure out at what set of confluent circumstances Team Wolf figured "This is not going so hot for us right now."

2. Figure out if anyone on the possible suspects list dramatically altered their posting habits before and then after this sequence of events.
Take a long look at El Guapo. His "helpfulness" changed significantly from the beginning until being accused.
I mean, I stand by my posts, such as they are. I'm curious about your answer as to why you do not suspect Grundbegriff though.
Consistency in his limited postings. Compare this to the "why me" tone of your posts when a few of us had accused you. A plain villager does not usually show a "why me" tone.
How hard is it to be consistent when you post five times? But as for the "why me?" part, my whole point was just that the people voting for me mostly hadn't given any reason why. Vote rationales are important, because: (1) it makes it marginally harder for wolves to join in a train unnoticed; and (2) after I would come back villager, it would give useful information for the village to process (whereas a rationale-less vote just gives the difficulty to sort out vote pattern info).

The "why me" stuff led me to leave my vote on you, because it became the rationale.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:07 am

Known Malicious
Bakhtosh

Found Delicious
Holman (sorcerer, per Cabal)

Newcastle (villager, per Cabal)
Qantaga (?)

Well reputed
Lagom Lite
theohall
tru1cy
redrun (confirmed Mentalist)
bb2112 (vivisected unto glory)

Undisputed
Remus West
triggercut

Filled with virtue
Chaosraven (scanned by Remus)
purge (scanned by Remus)

Maybe hurt you

Grundbegriff
Lassr
Vorret
RMC
pr0ner
Scoop20906
Unagi
LordMortis
El Guapo

Revelations, there were many.
Did I miss any?[/quote]

This is the complete updated list, just to have it together.

EDIT: Removed the Grund quotation since I did update the list.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:34 am

El Guapo wrote:
Grundbegriff wrote:...
<Wolf distortion deleted for concision>
...
This is the complete updated list, just to have it together.

Don't quote me and lie about what I wrote.
Here's the salient portion, in a corrected quote:

Grundbegriff wrote: ...
Filled with virtue
Chaosraven (scanned by Remus)
purge (scanned by Remus)
Grundbegriff (self-authenticating)

Maybe hurt you
Lassr
Vorret
RMC
pr0ner
Scoop20906
Unagi
LordMortis
El Guapo