Battle of the Presidents

[Chaosraven]

for his willingness to jump on an innocent republicans train...

Yet your vote didn't move if trying to claim Newcastle knows something he should not.

His claim could refer to you or himself, as my vote was previously the second on him. Not sure that constitutes a train.

So it could be a slip that he knows about you, or simply talking about himself.

He ignored it, either way.

[bb2112]

after deep and hard thought

 theohall 
 


as to why...meh why not and better he than me.

/heads back to his study to work on his bill entitled: Better Energy Entropy Radicalization legislation or BEER for short.

I like BEER and LAPDANCE. These are too concpts go together bettre than choclate and peanut butter. Brilliant!  Newcastle 
 

[Newcastle]

AS the economic waters get choppier and choppier. As we as nation must navigate these perilous economic streams. I present to you my newest bill: Solving Americas Foreign Exchange Worries Over Record Debt.

This bill will help America find safe waters and further promote economic freedom so good young entrepreneurs can make an honest buck and living.

[Scoop20906]

Newcastle, you a proving to me more and more each game you are a snake oil salesman.

Do not believe his lies.

[Newcastle]

So with my latest bill I think its worthy to praise previous efforts of our long past heroes: Scoop is Not Amused Knowing Empire Overran Iteration Last.

This is a fitting honor. I ask each of you to support it.

/goes back to working on BEER with a dash of LAPDANCE

[Chaosraven]

and as he continues to ignore it...  Newcastle 
 


Will we see another impassioned set of posts this time?

[Scoop20906]

I'm tempted to join the Newcastle vote just to see how he reacts but after last game's special fiasco I'm wondering if it might be better to shoot theo since he has already hit n-1 and claimed non-special.

I'm sticking with theohall.

[Vorret]

Moliere can we get an updated vote count when you have a minute?

Newcastle is sounding like that game we had a few months ago where he kept speaking in Japanese proverbs or something.

[Vorret]

I'm tempted to join the Newcastle vote just to see how he reacts but after last game's special fiasco I'm wondering if it might be better to shoot theo since he has already hit n-1 and claimed non-special.

I'm sticking with theohall.

That's kinda why I don't want to move my vote.
As I said last week, he may not be a dem but he's also not a special. Day one is a crapshoot (we can get lucky) but at least that way we get some info and we don't damage our end game chances too much.

[Moliere]

Vorret -> Scoop20906, theohall
triggercut -> theohall, Qantaga
Newcastle -> Vorret, Remus West, theohall, Chaosraven
RMC -> Remus West
El Guapo -> Vorret, Newcastle
Scoop20906 -> El Guapo, Vorret, Remus West, theohall
Lassr -> Scoop20906, theohall
theohall -> triggercut, Remus West
bb2112 -> El Guapo
Remus West -> Vorret, Scoop20906, theohall, Newcastle
Qantaga ->
Chaosraven -> Newcastle, theohall, Newcastle
tru1cy -> theohall
J.D. ->

theohall (4): Vorret, Lassr, tru1cy, Scoop20906
Remus West (2): RMC, theohall
Newcastle (3): El Guapo, Remus West, Chaosraven
Qantaga (1): triggercut
El Guapo (1): bb2112

The majority requires 8 votes. Let me know if I missed anything.

[Qantaga]

Bear of a work/travel schedule last week. I'll catch up tonight.

[Lassr]

I'm preparing my 24 hour speech so I can filibuster the shit out of this game.

Have you finished the speech yet?

[El Guapo]

At least there is no seer to out this game.

[Moliere]

Vorret -> Scoop20906, theohall
triggercut -> theohall, Qantaga
Newcastle -> Vorret, Remus West, theohall, Chaosraven
RMC -> Remus West
El Guapo -> Vorret, Newcastle
Scoop20906 -> El Guapo, Vorret, Remus West, theohall
Lassr -> Scoop20906, theohall
theohall -> triggercut, Remus West
bb2112 -> El Guapo, Newcastle
Remus West -> Vorret, Scoop20906, theohall, Newcastle
Qantaga ->
Chaosraven -> Newcastle, theohall, Newcastle
tru1cy -> theohall
J.D. ->

theohall (4): Vorret, Lassr, tru1cy, Scoop20906
Remus West (2): RMC, theohall
Newcastle (4): El Guapo, Remus West, Chaosraven, bb2112
Qantaga (1): triggercut

The majority requires 8 votes. I missed bb2112's last vote. Here is the updated count. Let me know if I missed anything else.

[Moliere]

At least there is no seer to out this game.

Reagan can identify those who are acting the part.

[Scoop20906]

At least there is no seer to out this game.

Did you forget something?

[J.D.]

I'm preparing my 24 hour speech so I can filibuster the shit out of this game.

Have you finished the speech yet?

I'm just trying to decide which Dr. Seuss book will fit in nicely into hour 16.

Also, holy crap, not used to the OO style game. Over on GT we'd have done four rounds by now. I feel a bit out of my league here.

[J.D.]

Also I need to shit or get off the pot so *deep breath*.

 newcastle 
 

[El Guapo]

At least there is no seer to out this game.

Did you forget something?

mmmm, don't think so. Reagan's a quasi-seer but he only knows the good special roles, so he's not really.

Ohhh wait I left the oven on. Thanks!

[Newcastle]

i have a vote on  CHAOSRAVEN 
 


but no longer

 scoop 
 


for acting so unscoop like

And with that I'd like to promote my new bill - Keeping Interest in Science Super Motivating Young Americans Seeking Science

This bill is a true statement of how i feel about keeping america interested in Science strong. America needs to be a leader in science not a dang nabbit commie!

[Moliere]

At least there is no seer to out this game.

Did you forget something?

mmmm, don't think so. Reagan's a quasi-seer but he only knows the good special roles, so he's not really.

Ohhh wait I left the oven on. Thanks!

"Ronald Reagan: Can tell who is acting and therefore sees the true role of any ALIVE player."
My wording might be a little misleading so let me clarify Reagan's role. As a former actor (and Democrat) he has the ability to tell when someone is pretending to be a Republican and someone who really is a Republican. He doesn't identify Teddy and Lincoln.

[El Guapo]

At least there is no seer to out this game.

Did you forget something?

mmmm, don't think so. Reagan's a quasi-seer but he only knows the good special roles, so he's not really.

Ohhh wait I left the oven on. Thanks!

"Ronald Reagan: Can tell who is acting and therefore sees the true role of any ALIVE player."
My wording might be a little misleading so let me clarify Reagan's role. As a former actor (and Democrat) he has the ability to tell when someone is pretending to be a Republican and someone who really is a Republican. He doesn't identify Teddy and Lincoln.

Huh? So he can tell us who the democrats are? At least if they speak and pretend to be a Republican?

Um, so I'm pretty sure I have this game won. Everyone post that they're a republican, and then Reagan will tell us who is lying.

I am a Republican.

Game set match, democrats.

[Scoop20906]

Lol. Now KISSMYASS is a bill I can get behind. Looks like I have no choice.

 Shoot Scoop20906 
 

Best bill yet, Newcastle. Lol.

[Moliere]

"Ronald Reagan: Can tell who is acting and therefore sees the true role of any ALIVE player."
My wording might be a little misleading so let me clarify Reagan's role. As a former actor (and Democrat) he has the ability to tell when someone is pretending to be a Republican and someone who really is a Republican. He doesn't identify Teddy and Lincoln.

Huh? So he can tell us who the democrats are? At least if they speak and pretend to be a Republican?

Um, so I'm pretty sure I have this game won. Everyone post that they're a republican, and then Reagan will tell us who is lying.

I am a Republican.

Game set match, democrats.

He only has time to analyze one person a night.

[El Guapo]

Oh, ok. So he is a seer. "Misleading" may be understating it a bit, insofar as that is not at all what his role description says.

[Remus West]

At least there is no seer to out this game.

Did you forget something?

mmmm, don't think so. Reagan's a quasi-seer but he only knows the good special roles, so he's not really.

Ohhh wait I left the oven on. Thanks!

"Ronald Reagan: Can tell who is acting and therefore sees the true role of any ALIVE player."
My wording might be a little misleading so let me clarify Reagan's role. As a former actor (and Democrat) he has the ability to tell when someone is pretending to be a Republican and someone who really is a Republican. He doesn't identify Teddy and Lincoln.

Huh? So he can tell us who the democrats are? At least if they speak and pretend to be a Republican?

Um, so I'm pretty sure I have this game won. Everyone post that they're a republican, and then Reagan will tell us who is lying.

I am a Republican.

Game set match, democrats.

He is telling you outright that Reagan is the Seer.
Very weird that you did not recognize that either in the original rule or right now.

[Vorret]

At least there is no seer to out this game.

Did you forget something?

mmmm, don't think so. Reagan's a quasi-seer but he only knows the good special roles, so he's not really.

Ohhh wait I left the oven on. Thanks!

"Ronald Reagan: Can tell who is acting and therefore sees the true role of any ALIVE player."
My wording might be a little misleading so let me clarify Reagan's role. As a former actor (and Democrat) he has the ability to tell when someone is pretending to be a Republican and someone who really is a Republican. He doesn't identify Teddy and Lincoln.

Huh? So he can tell us who the democrats are? At least if they speak and pretend to be a Republican?

Um, so I'm pretty sure I have this game won. Everyone post that they're a republican, and then Reagan will tell us who is lying.

I am a Republican.

Game set match, democrats.

He is telling you outright that Reagan is the Seer.
Very weird that you did not recognize that either in the original rule or right now.

At first It thought he was fishing , now it's just weird.

[El Guapo]

At least there is no seer to out this game.

Did you forget something?

mmmm, don't think so. Reagan's a quasi-seer but he only knows the good special roles, so he's not really.

Ohhh wait I left the oven on. Thanks!

"Ronald Reagan: Can tell who is acting and therefore sees the true role of any ALIVE player."
My wording might be a little misleading so let me clarify Reagan's role. As a former actor (and Democrat) he has the ability to tell when someone is pretending to be a Republican and someone who really is a Republican. He doesn't identify Teddy and Lincoln.

Huh? So he can tell us who the democrats are? At least if they speak and pretend to be a Republican?

Um, so I'm pretty sure I have this game won. Everyone post that they're a republican, and then Reagan will tell us who is lying.

I am a Republican.

Game set match, democrats.

He is telling you outright that Reagan is the Seer.
Very weird that you did not recognize that either in the original rule or right now.

Really? Let's compare with some seer role descriptions:

Seer
Each night the Seer can ask about a player, and is told if that player is a Villager or a Werewolf. No other roles will be disclosed to the Seer about that person, with 1 exception: If the Seer scans the Beserker Werewolf, he will be told that the player is, in fact, the Beserker Werewolf.

Athena (good Cylon) –Each night she can scan to find Cylons.
Athena would submit a name to scan. The answer to her question will be Cylon or Human. If Athena is lynched the autopsy will show Cylon. If she finds Galen before D'Anna she will be told that she has found Galen. If she finds Galen after D'anna she will only be told she has found a Cylon.
She may also to get an extra scan during the day when a Cylon target is found; (Can be used only twice in the game) This scan determines which Cylon was detected (may be used anytime in the game as long as that Cylon is alive). Cylons will know they were scanned when used.

They use such words as "scanning", "asking about a player", "picking a player." Reagan's description just says that he sees the true role of anyone who is alive. No picking, scanning, references to seeing them nightly, anything. Given the absence of any of that in the description, I gathered that none of that was in the role.

[Moliere]

They use such words as "scanning", "asking about a player", "picking a player." Reagan's description just says that he sees the true role of anyone who is alive. No picking, scanning, references to seeing them nightly, anything. Given the absence of any of that in the description, I gathered that none of that was in the role.

Turn order during the night:

Reagan scans;
Roosevelt protects;
Democrats attack.

[El Guapo]

Yeah, I was just looking at the role descriptions in figuring out the roles, oddly enough. But in any event, I get it now and apparently I'm in the sole minority in not immediately reading that description as being the seer.

[Newcastle]

Yeah, I was just looking at the role descriptions in figuring out the roles, oddly enough. But in any event, I get it now and apparently I'm in the sole minority in not immediately reading that description as being the seer.

becauseyoureadem say what?

[Scoop20906]

I read it as Seer but ...

[Newcastle]

In order to spur this discussion on. Its clear we need to grow our grass roots. To that end i propose: Becoming Opportunistic Republicans Innovating Nationally Groups

[Newcastle]

Lol. Now KISSMYASS is a bill I can get behind. Looks like I have no choice.

 Shoot Scoop20906 
 

Best bill yet, Newcastle. Lol.

Why thanks Democratic Scoop.

/flashes him the peas sign.

[theohall]

Where is  Qantaga 
 

[Moliere]

Becoming Opportunistic Republicans Innovating Nationally Groups

Is this what happens when there is no time limit?

[Scoop20906]

Becoming Opportunistic Republicans Innovating Nationally Groups

Is this what happens when there is no time limit?

It seems OO is a cautious bunch. I can't even get people to react when I self vote anymore.

 withdrawal scoop20906 
 


I still think we stick with theohall today and then let our specials get to work. There is still a chance he's a stinkin democrat too. Not much to go on otherwise.

 shoot theohall 
 

[Lassr]

I still think we stick with theohall today and then let our specials get to work. There is still a chance he's a stinkin democrat too. Not much to go on otherwise.

 shoot theohall 
 

I back this resolution.

Theohall says he is not a special and he still could be a democrat. Let's not risk a mass outing like last game.

[Moliere]

Vorret -> Scoop20906, theohall
triggercut -> theohall, Qantaga
Newcastle -> Vorret, Remus West, theohall, Chaosraven, Scoop20906
RMC -> Remus West
El Guapo -> Vorret, Newcastle
Scoop20906 -> El Guapo, Vorret, Remus West, theohall, Scoop20906, theohall
Lassr -> Scoop20906, theohall
theohall -> triggercut, Remus West, Qantaga
bb2112 -> El Guapo, Newcastle
Remus West -> Vorret, Scoop20906, theohall, Newcastle
Qantaga ->
Chaosraven -> Newcastle, theohall, Newcastle
tru1cy -> theohall
J.D. -> Newcastle

theohall (4): Vorret, Lassr, tru1cy, Scoop20906
Remus West (1): RMC
Newcastle (5): El Guapo, Remus West, Chaosraven, bb2112, J.D.
Qantaga (2): triggercut, theohall
Scoop20906 (1): Newcastle

The majority requires 8 votes. Here is the updated count. Let me know if I missed anything else.

[Vorret]

I'm going to switch my vote to Newcastle... he seems to be the "target of the day" and we need to move on at some point.

 Newcastle