Embedding videos?

ChaoZ · Post by **ChaoZ** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 9:47 am

Hey guys, I noticed that a lot of posts pointing to a video are just links. Would it be better to be able to embed a Youtube or other flash video source in our posts?

Of course, this is prone to abuse, but as I see it, it's not any worse than somebody posting a blind link. Plus, it doesn't really hurt 56K people because it requires a click action before the video starts loading.

I've seen this done in another forum that I'm in. Don't know if it's possible here, but the syntax would be along the lines of [youtube][/youtube] or [video][/video]

Thoughts?

triggercut · Post by **triggercut** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 10:20 am

I'm in favor. By far the #1 source of embedded video is Youtube, and they already have their own content-filtering mechanisms to prevent Crowleyism. Probably safer than allowing straightup [img] tags, to be honest.

The Mad Hatter · Post by **The Mad Hatter** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 10:25 am

As long as it doesn't fire up automatically. I read this site from work, and the last thing I need is to click a thread title and have a video load.

dbt1949 · Post by **dbt1949** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 10:31 am

I got burned (Winantispyvirus trojan)here awhile back going to a site recommended by one of the posters here. It was just jpgs but it has left me a little leary on clicking on any links now. I'm not upset with the poster but it's just a point I'd like to make in favor of not having to click on unknown links.

ChrisGwinn · Post by **ChrisGwinn** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 11:25 am

I'm not in favor of it, unless phpbb has specific features to just embed video. If it doesn't, you would need to allow arbitrary html and javascript embedding, and that's just asking for trouble.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 11:33 am

Yeah, I can't vote without knowing more from Gedd. You don't want to open up general stuff just to allow video in. Video from say, you tube would be fine with me but if it has to allow other stuff to happen, I'm not for it. Also, how would it affect OO's bandwidth? Would all video traffic flow through Rip's tubes?

ChaoZ · Post by **ChaoZ** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 11:46 am

Austin wrote:Yeah, I can't vote without knowing more from Gedd. You don't want to open up general stuff just to allow video in. Video from say, you tube would be fine with me but if it has to allow other stuff to happen, I'm not for it. Also, how would it affect OO's bandwidth? Would all video traffic flow through Rip's tubes?

Not at all. Bandwidth will most definitely come from YouTube or GamesTrailer etc.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 11:56 am

ChaoZ wrote:
Austin wrote:Yeah, I can't vote without knowing more from Gedd. You don't want to open up general stuff just to allow video in. Video from say, you tube would be fine with me but if it has to allow other stuff to happen, I'm not for it. Also, how would it affect OO's bandwidth? Would all video traffic flow through Rip's tubes?
Not at all. Bandwidth will most definitely come from YouTube or GamesTrailer etc.

Cool. I hear Rip doesn't like having his tubes clogged up.

naednek · Post by **naednek** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 12:58 pm

dbt1949 wrote:I got burned (Winantispyvirus trojan)here awhile back going to a site recommended by one of the posters here. It was just jpgs but it has left me a little leary on clicking on any links now. I'm not upset with the poster but it's just a point I'd like to make in favor of not having to click on unknown links.

sorry about that DBT. I honestly wouldn't have posted it if I had known. I didn't get trojans when I visted so I never got any warning. I know you're not mad, I just wanted to state that I'm sorry it happened to you, and wanted to let you know it wasn't my intentions.

And I'm all for embedded videos.

Jeff V · Post by **Jeff V** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 1:05 pm

Absolutely not. You Tube is a conduit for malware attacks.

On top of this, I access this site through a VPN tunnel that is bandwidth-restricted. As it is, images can cause the connection to grind to a halt. An unexpected video in a thread would probably knock me out for the day.

ChaoZ · Post by **ChaoZ** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 1:24 pm

Jeff V wrote:Absolutely not. You Tube is a conduit for malware attacks.

On top of this, I access this site through a VPN tunnel that is bandwidth-restricted. As it is, images can cause the connection to grind to a halt. An unexpected video in a thread would probably knock me out for the day.

Videos don't load until you click on it. You will have to load an image representing the video clip, but that's it.

Secondly, the trojan horse mentioned is due to a party sending a fake YouTube link which, in addition to playing a valid YouTube video, also runs something in the background.

In fact, I would argue that embedding a YouTube video is SAFER than clicking on a mysterious video link.

We would need proper protection to ensure that links embedded come from reliable sources, which may mean restricting videos to that from YouTube only. Running HTML is completely not something I'm advocating here.

ChaoZ · Post by **ChaoZ** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 1:30 pm

For the admin's reference, instructions on how to implement this safely.

Clanwolfer · Post by **Clanwolfer** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 5:03 pm

No. No no no.

That's a cultural road I don't want this forum going down. These newfangled images are bad enough.

Kraken · Post by **Kraken** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 6:36 pm

Video will be fine in NSFW and WTF? threads. Nowhere else, please.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 6:58 pm

I like the idea. If you don't want to watch, scroll on by - no harm, no foul. For those who want to view you can do it without leaving the forum. Handy dandy. I get the knee-jerk reaction from it, but they way it's been laid out so far, it looks like a good feature.

Rip · Post by **Rip** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 7:46 pm

Austin wrote:
ChaoZ wrote:
Austin wrote:Yeah, I can't vote without knowing more from Gedd. You don't want to open up general stuff just to allow video in. Video from say, you tube would be fine with me but if it has to allow other stuff to happen, I'm not for it. Also, how would it affect OO's bandwidth? Would all video traffic flow through Rip's tubes?
Not at all. Bandwidth will most definitely come from YouTube or GamesTrailer etc.
Cool. I hear Rip doesn't like having his tubes clogged up.

That is just what I tell people I'm trying to get a little off of.

Moat_Man · Post by **Moat_Man** » Thu Jan 15, 2015 2:49 am

I went to try and embed a youtube video in a post instead of just a hyperlink but it still doesn't look like this is possible. Has any more thought been given to this?

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Thu Jan 15, 2015 3:38 am

Im all for it. My Mustang forum uses them and its nice to have the video there in the post to watch or not. They dont start up unless I click it.

Enough · Post by **Enough** » Thu Jan 15, 2015 2:06 pm

Heh, I just tried to use the mp4 tags and realized we don't support it. I voted yes and agree that anything that is going to automatically play sound in particular is a big NO. Another thing I would love to know how to post is the new gifv format.

Z-Corn · Post by **Z-Corn** » Thu Jan 15, 2015 2:07 pm

Brian seems to know how to do it...

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Thu Jan 15, 2015 2:50 pm

Brian gets a screencap, then uses that as the target for a hyperlink. That's not the same as having the video play in the post itself.

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Thu Jan 15, 2015 3:01 pm

Hey, as long as it doesn't auto-play, I'm all for it.

Post by **FishPants** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 12:56 am

I was about to ridicule the 56k reference until I looked at the original date. I'll have to see what's involved and make sure red tube videos can't be embedded+ spam hammer won't allow bots to pay their shit in videos.

Pyperkub · Post by **Pyperkub** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:19 pm

I really dislike the trend towards internet videos - in a way, I just see it as another way to get more advertising out. I'm not much of a fan of animated gif's either. I'm incredibly happy that we don't allow them in sigs. Any forum that allows them, I have to go and create custom adblock filters just to get rid of that trash. I have had to get multiple FF plugins to keep videos from autoplaying.

Please no. 99% of internet video isn't worth my time, and actually avoiding it causes even more annoyances.

Post by **FishPants** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 9:47 pm

That's a good point, right now the votes are slightly on the nay side.

Rip · Post by **Rip** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 10:44 pm

Which is pretty much how the staff discussion of the topic went originally.

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 10:50 pm

I'm not sure that votes, most of which are eight years old, are really meaningful anymore.

Rumpy · Post by **Rumpy** » Thu Feb 05, 2015 4:18 pm

I wouldn't mind it, as long as they're put behind a spoiler tag, not so much because they could be spoilers, but because of loading. In the past, when Youtube would be down and I'd be on other sites with embedded videos, it would cause the whole site to wait for it to load, hanging up the pc in the process.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Thu Feb 05, 2015 4:34 pm

I was stunned when the Vimeo videos posted are embeeded through Chrome. I checked and IE did it as well. Example post

The Meal · Post by **The Meal** » Thu Feb 05, 2015 6:01 pm

Rumpy wrote:I wouldn't mind it, as long as they're put behind a spoiler tag, not so much because they could be spoilers, but because of loading. In the past, when Youtube would be down and I'd be on other sites with embedded videos, it would cause the whole site to wait for it to load, hanging up the pc in the process.

Spoiler tags do not prevent images from loading as they are implemented by OO.

Pyperkub · Post by **Pyperkub** » Thu Feb 05, 2015 6:46 pm

Isgrimnur wrote:I was stunned when the Vimeo videos posted are embeeded through Chrome. I checked and IE did it as well. Example post

Well, at least my Flashblock/YouTubeblock plug ins worked... but I've only peeked on a desktop. Not sure about mobile, etc., where I'd really be peeved. I'm guessing that's html5 content.

Anonymous Bosch · Post by **Anonymous Bosch** » Thu Feb 05, 2015 6:59 pm

Isgrimnur wrote:I was stunned when the Vimeo videos posted are embeeded through Chrome. I checked and IE did it as well. Example post

Your gast is surprisingly easily flabbered.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Thu Feb 05, 2015 7:31 pm

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