The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 2:55 pm

Rip wrote: Thank you but I was punching holes in the ocean defending democracy during the Reagan presidency.

Lies. I thought you were 30+ going on 40. I still don't believe you remember anything of the sort. Unless you're pushing Kraken's age, you were still around 10-12 at best when Reagan was first elected. You may have enlisted at an early age and served during his second term, but you spent all that time on the street first.

Carpet_pissr · Post by **Carpet_pissr** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 2:56 pm

GreenGoo wrote:
Carpet_pissr wrote:
GreenGoo wrote:
Carpet_pissr wrote: You need to direct your rant to those here who support him.
No I don't.
Should.
The forum is comprised of literally hundreds of threads that don't directly pertain to anyone on these forums.

I'm ranting wherever I feel like.

Then by all means, let's have 10 or 12 more posts about how Americans should as a whole be ashamed that Trump is a front-running Republican candidate.
We get it.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 2:58 pm

Rip wrote:
GreenGoo wrote:
Rip wrote:
hepcat wrote:If Trump does become the president, I predict that the entire nation will wake up with a hangover the next morning and look over to see him sleeping in the bed next to them before immediately swearing off alcohol for the rest of their lives.
I remember hearing much of those same type sentiments when Reagan was running. I mean a stupid actor are you kidding? Then he won and now the Republicans think he was able to walk on water.
Dude, you were like, what, 3 years old when Reagan became president? You don't remember any such thing.

Thank you but I was punching holes in the ocean defending democracy during the Reagan presidency.

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 2:59 pm

Carpet_pissr wrote: Then by all means, let's have 10 or 12 more posts about how Americans should as a whole be ashamed that Trump is a front-running Republican candidate.
We get it.

10 or 12 more posts at a minimum. We still have like 18 months to go.

noxiousdog · Post by **noxiousdog** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 3:04 pm

GreenGoo wrote:
Rip wrote: Thank you but I was punching holes in the ocean defending democracy during the Reagan presidency.
Lies. I thought you were 30+ going on 40. I still don't believe you remember anything of the sort. Unless you're pushing Kraken's age, you were still around 10-12 at best when Reagan was first elected. You may have enlisted at an early age and served during his second term, but you spent all that time on the street first.

My guess he was on the street after, not before.

Regardless, this is pretty wrong. There's no reason for you not to take him at his word.

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 3:11 pm

noxiousdog wrote:
GreenGoo wrote:
Rip wrote: Thank you but I was punching holes in the ocean defending democracy during the Reagan presidency.
Lies. I thought you were 30+ going on 40. I still don't believe you remember anything of the sort. Unless you're pushing Kraken's age, you were still around 10-12 at best when Reagan was first elected. You may have enlisted at an early age and served during his second term, but you spent all that time on the street first.
My guess he was on the street after, not before.

Regardless, this is pretty wrong. There's no reason for you not to take him at his word.

Yeah. I don't doubt Rip here.

Also, his common rejoinder, "Yeah, but you never shat through an $800 toilet seat cover!" makes a lot more sense now too.

Rip · Post by **Rip** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 3:11 pm

GreenGoo wrote:
Rip wrote: Thank you but I was punching holes in the ocean defending democracy during the Reagan presidency.
Lies. I thought you were 30+ going on 40. I still don't believe you remember anything of the sort. Unless you're pushing Kraken's age, you were still around 10-12 at best when Reagan was first elected. You may have enlisted at an early age and served during his second term, but you spent all that time on the street first.

I'm in my 50s.

For reference I was a plank-owner(on the commissioning crew) of the USS Jacksonville SSN-699. Look up what date it was commissioned.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 3:20 pm

For reference I was about 1 month old when Reagan took his oath of office.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 3:28 pm

El Guapo wrote:For reference I was about 1 month old when Reagan took his oath of office.

Fuck You!

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 3:30 pm

El Guapo wrote:For reference I was about 1 month old when Reagan took his oath of office.

I still have my journal from first grade (or was it second? Don't remember). It only has one entry. "Today, Ronald Reagan got shot." Turned out to be a bad day to start the journal project.

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 3:44 pm

Rip wrote:I'm in my 50s.

For reference I was a plank-owner(on the commissioning crew) of the USS Jacksonville SSN-699. Look up what date it was commissioned.

Okey dokey. First, my entire "I don't believe you" was meant very light heartedly. But I also ran the numbers for myself, and for some reason my memory puts you at about 35 only a few years ago (well, it could have been 10 which would still be wrong) so I was like "if Rip's younger than me, and I was barely aware of politics at the time then...."

Hopefully the 50's thing will stick and I won't misremember your age in the future.

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 3:45 pm

LawBeefaroni wrote:
El Guapo wrote:For reference I was about 1 month old when Reagan took his oath of office.
I still have my journal from first grade (or was it second? Don't remember). It only has one entry. "Today, Ronald Reagan got shot." Turned out to be a bad day to start the journal project.

Or a really excellent day.

Can you imagine if you started it on 3 bean salad day?

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 3:48 pm

GreenGoo wrote:
LawBeefaroni wrote:
El Guapo wrote:For reference I was about 1 month old when Reagan took his oath of office.
I still have my journal from first grade (or was it second? Don't remember). It only has one entry. "Today, Ronald Reagan got shot." Turned out to be a bad day to start the journal project.
Or a really excellent day.

Can you imagine if you started it on 3 bean salad day?

That's one way to look at it. I do remember that day they just told us to take our journals home and keep them there. I guess because they though Reagan was going to die and it would be like a JFK moment and we shouldn't taint the journal with 3-bean-salad entries?

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 3:58 pm

Maybe excellent is not the right word. Important day? Note(book)worthy day?

Rip · Post by **Rip** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 4:08 pm

I remember standing in the lounge of the enlisted barracks lounge in Groton, CT watching the Challenger burn up. Many of us were deployed to the area the next day.

Funny the things that stick in your mind.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 4:14 pm

The Carter/Ford election is the first political event I remember, and Reagan/Carter is the first I could fully understand. (I was a Reagan fan at the time.)

Trump is easily the most arrogant, offensive, ridiculous, and unworthy candidate I have ever seen taken this seriously.

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 4:18 pm

Holman wrote:The Carter/Ford election is the first political event I remember, and Reagan/Carter is the first I could fully understand. (I was a Reagan fan at the time.)

Trump is easily the most arrogant, offensive, ridiculous, and unworthy candidate I have ever seen taken this seriously.

It's like they are picking the most outrageous member to keep the show interesting on Big Brother.

And that might be all it is. but then I hear stories like Hep's encounter with a female co-worker and I'm like "holy shit".

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 4:19 pm

Holman wrote:The Carter/Ford election is the first political event I remember, and Reagan/Carter is the first I could fully understand. (I was a Reagan fan at the time.)

Trump is easily the most arrogant, offensive, ridiculous, and unworthy candidate I have ever seen taken this seriously.

At the same time if I had to choose between Trump, Jindal, and Walker I would have to seriously consider Trump.

Rip · Post by **Rip** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 4:30 pm

El Guapo wrote:
Holman wrote:The Carter/Ford election is the first political event I remember, and Reagan/Carter is the first I could fully understand. (I was a Reagan fan at the time.)

Trump is easily the most arrogant, offensive, ridiculous, and unworthy candidate I have ever seen taken this seriously.
At the same time if I had to choose between Trump, Jindal, and Walker I would have to seriously consider Trump.

Ding, ding, ding.

Most of the other candidates are a joke, so why not.

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 4:32 pm

GreenGoo wrote:Maybe excellent is not the right word. Important day? Note(book)worthy day?

No, excellent is OK. I mean I still have the journal so...

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 4:33 pm

El Guapo wrote:
Holman wrote:The Carter/Ford election is the first political event I remember, and Reagan/Carter is the first I could fully understand. (I was a Reagan fan at the time.)

Trump is easily the most arrogant, offensive, ridiculous, and unworthy candidate I have ever seen taken this seriously.
At the same time if I had to choose between Trump, Jindal, and Walker I would have to seriously consider Trump.

The only reason I might do so is because I truly believe he has no intention of winning. And should he accidentally do so, his involvement (in my opinion) would be almost entirely through delegation to people he thinks are more informed than he is on the subject at hand. He would, for all intents and purposes, just be an embarrassing figurehead of a leader. Yes, we'd be the laughingstock of the developed world, but I'm betting nothing would really change under his presidency.

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 4:37 pm

Rip wrote:Ding, ding, ding.

Most of the other candidates are a joke, so why not.

I actually meant to post about this earlier, but got busy. It seems that this season's republican field is the weakest I've seen (since I started paying attention anyway). That's not to say one of them couldn't beat Hillary, who is taking a serious beating, but man, when I think about who's running, no one jumps immediately to mind and then as I count them off I can't even remember some of the more popular ones, let alone the no names at the bottom.

It's like the Demos have all their eggs in a very well known basket, and the Reps have no one so they have everyone.

I'm starting to get a bad feeling about the 4 years to come.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 4:39 pm

hepcat wrote:
El Guapo wrote:
Holman wrote:The Carter/Ford election is the first political event I remember, and Reagan/Carter is the first I could fully understand. (I was a Reagan fan at the time.)

Trump is easily the most arrogant, offensive, ridiculous, and unworthy candidate I have ever seen taken this seriously.
At the same time if I had to choose between Trump, Jindal, and Walker I would have to seriously consider Trump.
The only reason I might do so is because I truly believe he has no intention of winning. And should he accidentally do so, his involvement (in my opinion) would be almost entirely through delegation to people he thinks are more informed than he is on the subject at hand. He would, for all intents and purposes, just be an embarrassing figurehead of a leader. Yes, we'd be the laughingstock of the developed world, but I'm betting nothing would really change under his presidency.

Trump would probably be pretty uninterested in the actual work of presidential administration (which involves compromise and actual negotiation rather than tough-guy Gordon Gecko fantasies of hostile takeover). I don't see neutral output there, though, because he would owe his political capital to the Tea Party, and they would set the agenda for his administration.

An R/R Congress and a Trump White House would be a brutally ugly thing.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 4:40 pm

I can be a Canuck fan.

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 4:44 pm

Trump: If elected President, I will build a wall between the US and Canada.

Canadians: If you are elected President, please do.

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 4:45 pm

hepcat wrote:
El Guapo wrote:
Holman wrote:The Carter/Ford election is the first political event I remember, and Reagan/Carter is the first I could fully understand. (I was a Reagan fan at the time.)

Trump is easily the most arrogant, offensive, ridiculous, and unworthy candidate I have ever seen taken this seriously.
At the same time if I had to choose between Trump, Jindal, and Walker I would have to seriously consider Trump.
The only reason I might do so is because I truly believe he has no intention of winning. And should he accidentally do so, his involvement (in my opinion) would be almost entirely through delegation to people he thinks are more informed than he is on the subject at hand. He would be, for all intents and purposes, just be an embarrassing figurehead of a leader. Yes, we'd be the laughingstock of the developed world, but I'm betting nothing would really change under his presidency.

Cheney is back in business!

Carpet_pissr · Post by **Carpet_pissr** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 4:51 pm

Rip wrote:Most of the other candidates are a joke, so why not.

IMO, the LEAST joke-like are Fiorina and Bush (maybe Paul?). They seem genuinely serious about good governance (I had similar feelings towards McCain before he got entangled in his IMO disastrous presidential run).

I disagree with most of their positions, but they SEEM to be serious candidates that I could at least not be ashamed by if they were to be elected. I could not say the same for Graham, Cruz, Jindal, Trump, etc.

Rip · Post by **Rip** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 4:56 pm

Carpet_pissr wrote:
Rip wrote:Most of the other candidates are a joke, so why not.
IMO, the LEAST joke-like are Fiorina and Bush (maybe Paul?). They seem genuinely serious about good governance (I had similar feelings towards McCain before he got entangled in his IMO disastrous presidential run).

I disagree with most of their positions, but they SEEM to be serious candidates that I could at least not be ashamed by if they were to be elected. I could not say the same for Graham, Cruz, Jindal, Trump, etc.

If Paul ever got some traction I would choose him in a second over Trump.

Bush no way.

Fiorina not sure, but I am not a fan of her work at HP.

TheMix · Post by **TheMix** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 5:02 pm

I just keep trying to picture Trump sitting down at a summit with Putin. How long before he says something insulting? And how likely Putin would just take it? I don't think that things would stay the same. I think that he could do an immense amount of harm to our global standing/reputation.

Zaxxon · Post by **Zaxxon** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 5:20 pm

hepcat wrote:his involvement (in my opinion) would be almost entirely through delegation to people he thinks are more informed than he is on the subject at hand.

It's wonderful that you believe that Trump thinks there are people more informed than him... on anything.

Max Peck · Post by **Max Peck** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 5:39 pm

Rip wrote:I remember standing in the lounge of the enlisted barracks lounge in Groton, CT watching the Challenger burn up. Many of us were deployed to the area the next day.

Funny the things that stick in your mind.

Yeah, I remember that day too. I was on course at CFB Kingston. We were formed up to march over to the mess for lunch when one of the instructors came out and told us that the shuttle had exploded.

Max Peck · Post by **Max Peck** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 5:45 pm

Jaymann wrote:Trump: If elected President, I will not build a wall between the US and Canada.

Canadians: If you are elected President, please do.

ftfy

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 6:27 pm

Zaxxon wrote:
hepcat wrote:his involvement (in my opinion) would be almost entirely through delegation to people he thinks are more informed than he is on the subject at hand.
It's wonderful that you believe that Trump thinks there are people more informed than him... on anything.

Oh, he'll TELL you he's the one driving the car while his chauffer maneuvers around the white house grounds. But I have a feeling that 90 percent of his business acumen is derived off the efforts and know how of others. The other 10 percent is just bravado.

Kraken · Post by **Kraken** » Fri Sep 11, 2015 1:35 am

hepcat wrote:If Trump does become the president, I predict that the entire nation will wake up with a hangover the next morning and look over to see him sleeping in the bed next to them before immediately swearing off alcohol for the rest of their lives.

And I predict that Canada will need to build a border fence to keep out all the American political refugees.

tgb · Post by **tgb** » Fri Sep 11, 2015 7:30 am

For the last couple of years I've been planning retirement, and contemplating either Belize or Panama as a destination. Lately I've been telling tlr that we may be headed out earlier then planned.

Carpet_pissr · Post by **Carpet_pissr** » Fri Sep 11, 2015 8:32 am

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Fri Sep 11, 2015 10:01 am

What happened to your original retirement plan of moving to Columbia and taken up the mantle of Pablo Escobarawitz again?

Carpet_pissr · Post by **Carpet_pissr** » Fri Sep 11, 2015 10:50 am

hepcat wrote:What happened to your original retirement plan of moving to Columbia Colombia and taken up the mantle of Pablo Escobarawitz again?

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Fri Sep 11, 2015 10:52 am

Carpet_pissr wrote:
hepcat wrote:What happened to your original retirement plan of moving to Columbia Colombia and taken up the mantle of Pablo Escobarawitz again?

Thank you, Eduardo.

Carpet_pissr · Post by **Carpet_pissr** » Fri Sep 11, 2015 10:56 am

LawBeefaroni wrote:
Carpet_pissr wrote:
hepcat wrote:What happened to your original retirement plan of moving to Columbia Colombia and taken up the mantle of Pablo Escobarawitz again?
Thank you, Eduardo.

Please, I prefer: Meador de Alfombras