Super Bowl LI

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Thu Jan 07, 2016 12:53 pm

I'm pretty sure El Guapo was yanking your chains...

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Thu Jan 07, 2016 1:06 pm

stessier wrote:I'm pretty sure El Guapo was yanking your chains...

90% chain-yanking, 10% Patriots fan fantasy...

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Thu Jan 07, 2016 3:05 pm

El Guapo wrote:
stessier wrote:I'm pretty sure El Guapo was yanking your chains...
90% chain-yanking, 10% Patriots fan fantasy...

I'd have loved it if he could play with the Pats of a few years ago. Right now with the Pats offensive line he may as well remain a Lion.

I'd like to see him win a SB. I'd love to see him win one with the Lions but I'm also not quite that delusional.

Post by **ImLawBoy** » Thu Jan 07, 2016 5:08 pm

naednek wrote:Sean Payton will be staying in New Orleans. Niners will find a coach after everyone else passes because, who wants to work for York? Not many.

David Shaw (Stanford HC) reportedly refused to even interview with the 49ers.

rshetts2 · Post by **rshetts2** » Sat Jan 09, 2016 1:55 pm

Well the Lions made what I think is a good choice for their new GM. If you want someone to rebuild or retool a team go with someone who has experience in evaluating players for an established winning program thats what they did. They got Bob Quinn, the former Director of Pro Scouting in New England.
Early talk locally says he plans on retain Caldwell, Cooter and if possible Austin. Other reports have said that this decision is what Megatron's decision to continue playing hinges on. If they make wholesale changes in coaching he will move on as he doesn't want to deal this another traditional offense. It doesnt guarantee he will stay but it does improve the odds.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Sat Jan 09, 2016 3:48 pm

Cheerleaders are employees:

If the Buffalo Jills cheerleaders have to live by a strict code of conduct that dictates their appearance, eating habits — and even how they use feminine products — then they also have the right to sue their football team over lousy pay, a New York state judge ruled.

The Buffalo Bills had argued that the cheerleaders had no labor rights under state law because they were “independent contractors,” not employees.

Erie County Judge Timothy Drury disagreed, saying there was nothing “independent” about an official rulebook that governs the women’s personal and professional lives down to their underwear.
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Such strict guidelines mean the women were treated as employees, the judge found in the ruling that allows the cheerleaders to sue as a group instead of individually.
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The women made no more than $1,800 a season while the team rakes in $256 million in yearly revenue, the case states.

The Bills plan to appeal the ruling, according to a spokesperson.

Pyperkub · Post by **Pyperkub** » Sat Jan 09, 2016 5:49 pm

ImLawBoy wrote:
naednek wrote:Sean Payton will be staying in New Orleans. Niners will find a coach after everyone else passes because, who wants to work for York? Not many.
David Shaw (Stanford HC) reportedly refused to even interview with the 49ers.

He'd be a great pro coach, but he's happy at his alma mater. He refused the Raiders interview last year too.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Sat Jan 09, 2016 5:53 pm

Adam Gase to head the Dolphins.

Gase, just 37 but viewed around the league as a rising star, emerged as the top choice of seven candidates to interview with the franchise, including interim coach Dan Campbell.

And he appears to have already filled out much of his staff. Fox Sports reported Saturday that Bengals defensive backs coach Vance Joseph will be the Dolphins’ next defensive coordinator.

The outlet also reported that Clint Hurtt, who was part of the University of Miami’s Nevin Shapiro scandal, will be the Dolphins’ new defensive line coach. Matt Burke will coach the linebackers and Jerome Henderson the defensive backs, Fox Sports added.

Gase comes to Miami from Chicago, where he was the Bears’ offensive coordinator in 2015. Before that, he ran the Broncos’ offense, working closely with Peyton Manning.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Mon Jan 11, 2016 11:25 am

Bills: Rex hires Rob - The Ryan boys back together.

Rob Ryan, the former New Orleans Saints defensive coordinator who was fired in November, will be joining the Bills as assistant head coach for defense after Rex Ryan hired him Sunday.
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The Ryan brothers have not worked on the same staff since 1995, when both were assistants with the Arizona Cardinals under their father, Buddy Ryan.

I'm sure the Patriots will be sufficiently distracted by his flowing locks to prevent any pass completions next year. He's done so well for the Raiders, Browns, Cowboys and Saints.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Mon Jan 11, 2016 11:27 am

As a Patriots fan I am excited by this hire.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Mon Jan 11, 2016 11:28 am

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Mon Jan 11, 2016 11:44 am

Did you know he has a couple rings from his time with the Patriots? He was the Linebackers Coach from 200-2003.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Mon Jan 11, 2016 11:50 am

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Mon Jan 11, 2016 11:55 am

Can't tell if Real or Tapatalk issue...

In other news...

For first time ever, Super Bowl I will be rebroadcast on network television. Airs at 8 PM Friday on NFL Network.

I'll watch that. Well, I'll tape it and watch it at a reasonable hour, but same same.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Mon Jan 11, 2016 11:56 am

stessier wrote:Did you know he has a couple rings from his time with the Patriots? He was the Linebackers Coach from 200-2003.

This is one of the better ways he could ensure that there is at least one more Patriots ring during the Brady era. That, or going to work for Denver / Baltimore / Indy.

EvilHomer3k · Post by **EvilHomer3k** » Mon Jan 11, 2016 12:06 pm

El Guapo wrote:
stessier wrote:Did you know he has a couple rings from his time with the Patriots? He was the Linebackers Coach from 200-2003.
This is one of the better ways he could ensure that there is at least one more Patriots ring during the Brady era. That, or going to work for Denver / Baltimore / Indy.

Considering the Bills haven't won the AFC East since 1995 I don't see this as helping the Patriots much. It's not like they have been challenging the Pats. When was the last time they even had a chance to win the division? Maybe Ryan is just being brought in to institute a bounty system for the Bills defense.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Mon Jan 11, 2016 12:07 pm

stessier wrote:
For first time ever, Super Bowl I will be rebroadcast on network television. Airs at 8 PM Friday on NFL Network.
I'll watch that. Well, I'll tape it and watch it at a reasonable hour, but same same.

I didn't know that footage of it still existed.

Considered to be the Holy Grail of sports broadcasts, the CBS and NBC tapes of the game were either lost or recorded over and no full video version of the game has existedâ¦until now.

In an exhaustive process that took months to complete, NFL Films searched its enormous archives of footage and were able to locate all 145 plays from Super Bowl I from more than a couple dozen disparate sources. Once all the plays were located, NFL Films was able to put the plays in order and stich them together while fully restoring, re-mastering, and color correcting the footage. Finally, audio from the NBC Sports radio broadcast featuring announcers Jim Simpson and George Ratterman was layered on top of the footage to complete the broadcast.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Mon Jan 11, 2016 12:09 pm

Any sane Pats fan is afraid of a Rex lead team. Not so much of a Rob lead defense - at least if he is the sole architect. Will be interesting to see what the mash up produces.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Mon Jan 11, 2016 12:09 pm

EvilHomer3k wrote:
El Guapo wrote:
stessier wrote:Did you know he has a couple rings from his time with the Patriots? He was the Linebackers Coach from 200-2003.
This is one of the better ways he could ensure that there is at least one more Patriots ring during the Brady era. That, or going to work for Denver / Baltimore / Indy.
Considering the Bills haven't won the AFC East since 1995 I don't see this as helping the Patriots much. It's not like they have been challenging the Pats. When was the last time they even had a chance to win the division? Maybe Ryan is just being brought in to institute a bounty system for the Bills defense.

It's not much, but every little bit helps. And the Bills are talented enough to contend at the moment, especially if they can manage to get at least average quarterback play for a full season.

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Mon Jan 11, 2016 12:10 pm

Isgrimnur wrote:
stessier wrote:
For first time ever, Super Bowl I will be rebroadcast on network television. Airs at 8 PM Friday on NFL Network.
I'll watch that. Well, I'll tape it and watch it at a reasonable hour, but same same.
I didn't know that footage of it still existed.

Sounds like more of a recreation than a rebroadcast. Will be interesting to see how it turned out.

EvilHomer3k · Post by **EvilHomer3k** » Mon Jan 11, 2016 1:16 pm

stessier wrote:Any sane Pats fan is afraid of a Rex lead team. Not so much of a Rob lead defense - at least if he is the sole architect. Will be interesting to see what the mash up produces.

Why? His record with the Jets produced only 2 winning seasons out of 6. Every coach the Jets have had since Parcells produced more winning seasons per year of coaching. His overall record is .01 behind Norv Turner (.482 to .483). Who finds Norv Turner scary?

Mangini 2 out of 3 (win % with Jets is .479 which is roughly equal to ryan)
Edwards 3 out of 5 (.488 again, roughly equal to Ryan)
Groh 1 out of 1 (.563)
Parcells 2 out of 3 (.604)

What is it about Ryan that you find scary? He's an 8-8 guy who had one good season.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Mon Jan 11, 2016 1:23 pm

Two of those six seasons were 8-8, which still got him 2nd in the division just like the winning seasons did. And Ryan's current percentage is .486.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Mon Jan 11, 2016 1:31 pm

EvilHomer3k wrote:
stessier wrote:Any sane Pats fan is afraid of a Rex lead team. Not so much of a Rob lead defense - at least if he is the sole architect. Will be interesting to see what the mash up produces.
Why? His record with the Jets produced only 2 winning seasons out of 6. Every coach the Jets have had since Parcells produced more winning seasons per year of coaching. His overall record is .01 behind Norv Turner (.482 to .483). Who finds Norv Turner scary?

Mangini 2 out of 3 (win % with Jets is .479 which is roughly equal to ryan)
Edwards 3 out of 5 (.488 again, roughly equal to Ryan)
Groh 1 out of 1 (.563)
Parcells 2 out of 3 (.604)

What is it about Ryan that you find scary? He's an 8-8 guy who had one good season.

From the perspective of a Patriots fan he seemed to have the Jets competitive pretty much every year (except the last), even though the front office didn't give him a ton to work with (Revis aside). Plus that one good season (2010) was a little scarring.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Mon Jan 11, 2016 5:23 pm

The Tom Coughlin tour:

In one of the more surprising storylines of the offseason, the 69-year-old former Giants head coach will meet with the 49ers this week for their head coaching vacancy, according to NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport. He met with the Eagles on Monday.

Fox Sports first reported the news. The Giants gave permission to both clubs, as Coughlin still has a year remaining on his contract.
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He stepped down from the Giants job last week, but only in name. The Giants wanted to move on after more than a decade and two Super Bowls, and Coughlin was more than excited to address his future during an inspiring press conference.

While the Eagles job might be more of an information-gathering session, the 49ers job shows that Coughlin is a very serious candidate. As Jed York and general manager Trent Baalke scramble to pick up the pieces from a year ago, an organized disciplinarian like Coughlin might be the way to go.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Mon Jan 11, 2016 5:32 pm

Why would any name brand coach want to sign on with the 49ers, or more specifically with the current ownership?

RunningMn9 · Post by **RunningMn9** » Mon Jan 11, 2016 5:33 pm

El Guapo wrote:And the Bills are talented enough to contend at the moment, especially if they can manage to get at least average quarterback play for a full season.

They got well above average QB play for almost a full season - it wasn't enough.

RunningMn9 · Post by **RunningMn9** » Mon Jan 11, 2016 5:41 pm

EvilHomer3k wrote:Why? His record with the Jets produced only 2 winning seasons out of 6.

Context. For the remaining few years of his tenure with the Jets, they were hoarding cap space like that was their job (instead of winning games).

This isn't to say that Rex is the greatest coach. The Bills had an interesting quandary this year in that they ended last year with the 4th best defense in the league - running a completely different system (Wide 9 4-3). Rex runs primarily a 3-4. This year he tried to run a hybrid which the players hated, and his coaching staff couldn't quite figure out. With the offensive side of the ball on track at least, this offseason will be about fixing the defense.

Reconfigure the roster on that side a little bit (dump Mario Williams, get a true nose tackle, move Marcel Dareus and Kyle Williams to 3-4 DE and put Jerry Hughes and Manny Lawson at OLB), then fully implement the Rex Ryan scheme and they'll be fine.

rshetts2 · Post by **rshetts2** » Mon Jan 11, 2016 5:49 pm

Isgrimnur wrote:
stessier wrote:
For first time ever, Super Bowl I will be rebroadcast on network television. Airs at 8 PM Friday on NFL Network.
I'll watch that. Well, I'll tape it and watch it at a reasonable hour, but same same.
I didn't know that footage of it still existed.

Considered to be the Holy Grail of sports broadcasts, the CBS and NBC tapes of the game were either lost or recorded over and no full video version of the game has existedâ¦until now.

In an exhaustive process that took months to complete, NFL Films searched its enormous archives of footage and were able to locate all 145 plays from Super Bowl I from more than a couple dozen disparate sources. Once all the plays were located, NFL Films, with the help of Dr. Victor Von Frankenstein, was able to put the plays in order and stitch them together while fully restoring, re-mastering, and color correcting the footage. Finally, audio from the NBC Sports radio broadcast featuring announcers Jim Simpson and George Ratterman was layered on top of the footage to complete the broadcast.

Its alive! ITS ALIVE!

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Tue Jan 12, 2016 11:08 pm

Rams to LA, Chargers can join them.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Wed Jan 13, 2016 2:30 pm

Wow - this is sad.

Lawrence Philips found dead in his prison cell.

The California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation released a statement Wednesday announcing Phillips’ death. He was found unresponsive in his cell at Kern Valley State Prison early on Wednesday morning and transported to a hospital where he was pronounced dead a short time later. Prison officials suspect that Phillips took his own life.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Wed Jan 13, 2016 2:35 pm

Also...

On April 12, 2015, Phillips' cellmate Damion Soward, the cousin of former USC Trojan and NFL wide receiver R. Jay Soward, was found dead in the cell the two men shared. Soward, who was serving a sentence of 82-to-life for a murder conviction, was choked to death, and Phillips was regarded as the prime suspect in the case.

On September 1, 2015, Phillips was charged with first-degree murder in connection with Soward's death. On November 9, 2015, the prosecutor was granted a motion to reconsider whether to seek the death penalty.

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Wed Jan 13, 2016 3:15 pm

I still remember 1994 (I think it was?) when his assault charges were delayed so he could win Nebraska a championship. Then the next year he threw his girlfriend down a set of stairs and stayed on to win them another national title. Way to go Tom Osborne!

NYT wrote:In explaining his decision, Osborne talked about Phillips's need to be part of the football team's "structure" in order to lend stability to his life.

In cutting off McEwen [Phillips' victim] from athletic aid because she had not progressed as a basketball player, Nebraska officials didn't seem to consider that being part of the basketball team's structure might help her stability in recovering from her trauma.

Phillips rushed for 165 yards and scored three touchdowns in the 62-24 rout of Florida in the Fiesta Bowl that rewarded Nebraska with its second consecutive mythical title and $13 million. In her 36 minutes of basketball last season, McEwen scored 3 points.

Moliere · Post by **Moliere** » Wed Jan 13, 2016 3:42 pm

Isgrimnur wrote:The Tom Coughlin tour:

In one of the more surprising storylines of the offseason, the 69-year-old former Giants head coach will meet with the 49ers this week for their head coaching vacancy, according to NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport. He met with the Eagles on Monday.

Fox Sports first reported the news. The Giants gave permission to both clubs, as Coughlin still has a year remaining on his contract.
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He stepped down from the Giants job last week, but only in name. The Giants wanted to move on after more than a decade and two Super Bowls, and Coughlin was more than excited to address his future during an inspiring press conference.

While the Eagles job might be more of an information-gathering session, the 49ers job shows that Coughlin is a very serious candidate. As Jed York and general manager Trent Baalke scramble to pick up the pieces from a year ago, an organized disciplinarian like Coughlin might be the way to go.

Only 2 Super Bowls in the last 11 years? What a loser. Why would any team hire this guy?

Hrothgar · Post by **Hrothgar** » Wed Jan 13, 2016 9:30 pm

LawBeefaroni wrote:I still remember 1994 (I think it was?) when his assault charges were delayed so he could win Nebraska a championship. Then the next year he threw his girlfriend down a set of stairs and stayed on to win them another national title. Way to go Tom Osborne!

NYT wrote:In explaining his decision, Osborne talked about Phillips's need to be part of the football team's "structure" in order to lend stability to his life.

In cutting off McEwen [Phillips' victim] from athletic aid because she had not progressed as a basketball player, Nebraska officials didn't seem to consider that being part of the basketball team's structure might help her stability in recovering from her trauma.

Phillips rushed for 165 yards and scored three touchdowns in the 62-24 rout of Florida in the Fiesta Bowl that rewarded Nebraska with its second consecutive mythical title and $13 million. In her 36 minutes of basketball last season, McEwen scored 3 points.

With his psychology background, Tom Osborne thought he could save all his troubled players. The evidence never supported this belief.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Thu Jan 14, 2016 2:37 pm

Congrats 49ers!

Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 1m1 minute ago
The #49ers have hired Chip Kelly as their head coach.

Jeff V · Post by **Jeff V** » Thu Jan 14, 2016 2:42 pm

stessier wrote:Congrats 49ers!

Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 1m1 minute ago
The #49ers have hired Chip Kelly as their head coach.

Does that mean he's still going to bring in Kaepernick as his backup QB?

naednek · Post by **naednek** » Thu Jan 14, 2016 2:57 pm

Niners= the new Raiders

Damn

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Thu Jan 14, 2016 3:25 pm

Is there a combination of train wreck and dumpster fire that I'm not familiar with?

Ralph-Wiggum · Post by **Ralph-Wiggum** » Thu Jan 14, 2016 3:28 pm

I actually think Chip can be an effective head coach, as long as he doesn't also have GM duties. He did go 10-6 in his first two years with the Eagles with a pretty mediocre QB. They did pretty well until he traded away all his best players. The bigger issue is that it seems like many of his players don't get along with him.

Jeff V · Post by **Jeff V** » Thu Jan 14, 2016 3:31 pm

Isgrimnur wrote:Is there a combination of train wreck and dumpster fire that I'm not familiar with?

Just crash this guy into something flammable.