A different type of gaming mouse...Sorta..

knob · Post by **knob** » Wed May 25, 2005 10:32 pm

It still functions like a normal mouse, but the layout and shape of it is totally different.

http://www.gamingmouse.com/rtr720.html

Anyone know anything about this? Opinions?

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Thu May 26, 2005 12:05 am

It looks like a carpal tunnel nightmare!

Ummagumma · Post by **Ummagumma** » Thu May 26, 2005 6:42 am

When I see that contraption I immediately think

Big bucks! NO WHAMMIES!

Bad Demographic · Post by **Bad Demographic** » Thu May 26, 2005 9:49 am

The overhead view of it (looking straight down at it) makes it look like a stove knob.

Kraken · Post by **Kraken** » Thu May 26, 2005 10:32 am

Coincidence? I think not.

knob · Post by **knob** » Thu May 26, 2005 2:46 pm

Well, a guy I know bought one and got it today, so once he posts impressions, I'll let you know what he thinks.

gbasden · Post by **gbasden** » Thu May 26, 2005 5:53 pm

Valael wrote:Well, a guy I know bought one and got it today, so once he posts impressions, I'll let you know what he thinks.

Please do! For some reason I'm strangely intrigued by this...

Turtle · Post by **Turtle** » Thu May 26, 2005 6:25 pm

It may actually work as advertised, but that thing looks like a nightmare in terms of ergonomics. Just look at the way they hold it in its pictures.

baron calamity · Post by **baron calamity** » Thu May 26, 2005 6:50 pm

I have one of the older models and yes its not comfortable in the least.

jpinard · Post by **jpinard** » Thu May 26, 2005 10:24 pm

I literally did the "head shake, WHA?!" That is one bizarre looking hunk of plastic.

Do they have a flash demo of this thing in action? I can't find one.

Little Raven · Post by **Little Raven** » Fri May 27, 2005 3:03 pm

My wrist is hurting just looking at that.

Enough · Post by **Enough** » Fri May 27, 2005 4:12 pm

That's not a mouse Jim, that's a hockey puck.

map · Post by **map** » Fri May 27, 2005 8:10 pm

not to go too far off topic, but does anyone use a wireless mouse for gaming?

Faldarian · Post by **Faldarian** » Fri May 27, 2005 8:37 pm

That's my mouse, and I love it. I don't see much point in a specialized gaming mouse with ones like this on the market.

Chaz · Post by **Chaz** » Fri May 27, 2005 9:51 pm

I've been using a Logitech Mx700 for gaming for over a year now. I've never had a problem with response time or lagging, even in FPS. I tried a wired one again a few weeks ago, and the cord hitting things drove me nuts. It's all wireless from here on out, baby!

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Fri May 27, 2005 10:09 pm

Chaz wrote:I've been using a Logitech Mx700 for gaming for over a year now. I've never had a problem with response time or lagging, even in FPS. I tried a wired one again a few weeks ago, and the cord hitting things drove me nuts. It's all wireless from here on out, baby!

Before I had to give up mice, I used an MX700 for more than a year. It was absolutely fantastic for gaming.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Fri May 27, 2005 10:42 pm

map wrote:not to go too far off topic, but does anyone use a wireless mouse for gaming?

Been using a MX700 for 2 years now. Will never use a corded again. It gave me a little trouble late last year and I called Logitech about it. They sent me a MX1000 free but while I waited the 2 days for it to get to me mine stopped acting up so I still have it unopened as backup.

Faldarian · Post by **Faldarian** » Fri May 27, 2005 10:47 pm

Derail time I guess, but how was the MX700 (or similar option) on battery life?

That's the major concern that keeps me from going to any kind of wireless option, but if it's not a big deal at all I'll probably go grab one.

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Sat May 28, 2005 12:13 am

Faldarian wrote:Derail time I guess, but how was the MX700 (or similar option) on battery life?

That's the major concern that keeps me from going to any kind of wireless option, but if it's not a big deal at all I'll probably go grab one.

Effectively infinite. It uses built-in batteries, and charges in a cradle when you're not using it. Mine lasted a good twenty hours of heavy use on a two-hour charge. Put it in the cradle when you go to bed, and batteries will never even be a concern.

The battery didn't get its full charge until I had drained it and recharged it two or three times, but after three years, it still holds a full day's use on a single charge.

map · Post by **map** » Sat May 28, 2005 12:18 am

great input. thanks to all.

Faldarian · Post by **Faldarian** » Sat May 28, 2005 12:56 am

Cool, thanks Blackhawk.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Sat May 28, 2005 2:19 am

Faldarian wrote:Derail time I guess, but how was the MX700 (or similar option) on battery life?

That's the major concern that keeps me from going to any kind of wireless option, but if it's not a big deal at all I'll probably go grab one.

Yeah same with me. I can use it over 12 hours...forget to charge it that night,,,and use it another 10 or so before it wants to be fed.

Ummagumma · Post by **Ummagumma** » Sat May 28, 2005 12:13 pm

The only thing with the MX700 is that, with the batteries inside, it is an inordinately heavy mouse. It's like moving a brick around!

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Sat May 28, 2005 4:22 pm

You get used to that pretty fast though. The MX1000 is slightly lighter because it hasa self contained nicad in it.

Chaz · Post by **Chaz** » Sat May 28, 2005 6:13 pm

I actually like the extra weight of the 700. All other mice feel very floaty to me now.

Actually, I may contact Logitech about mine. One morning I took it out of the cradle to find it extremely hot to the touch. I opened the battery compartment to find the batteries also extremely hot to the point where the labels were partially melted off. I tried replacing them with a different set of rechargeables, but couldn't get them to work. I eventually got the original batteries to work again, however, they're not great, and I can't find another set of rechargeables that work. Maybe they'll send me the 1000 too...

knob · Post by **knob** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 4:59 pm

The guy I know wrote a quick review. Editted because he didn't use paragraphs. It's pretty much what you expect -- The mouse isn't comfortable at all:

ok here's my official review:

In a nutshell
Don't get it. You're better off with a mouse that was specficially and ergonomically designed for human hands. A round mouse is not ergonomic at all, as I find out the hard way. I reverted back to my trackball.

In detail
The mouse software is okay, but it looks like something someone just threw together in 2 days to make a deadline. That's my engineer side of me talking. However, the software does offer something that my trackball driver doesn't, which is the ability to setup profiles and to map buttons to virtually anything you want (a keystroke, a prolonged keystroke, keystrokes with modifiers (ie shift, ctrl), etc.) But I'm sure an MX518 caliber or even lesser mouse will have the same thing.

The mouse itself is pretty small. I have pretty small hands, and I can't imagine people with bigger hands using it. It has the four buttons up top, which are decent. No problems with them. I pretty much had it setup so that the my index finger rested between the first two buttons and then my middle finger ..!., rested on the last two buttons, and so were controlled by those respective fingers. Then it has these 3 hidden buttons on the side. The side is made of some kind of rubber material, but you can't feel these 3 buttons AT ALL. There are two ways to know that are buttons there: 1) look down on the mouse and there's a little image on the base plate, 2) have the mouse positioned and held correctly so that your ring and pinky finger is holding the area where these buttons are. I figured out how to use the latter. My problems with them is that you have to hold the mouse in a certain way, ie kind of cupping the mouse with your fingers, so that you can press these buttons on the side. It's not very ergonomic doing so, and I refuse to do it.

Also with these hidden buttons, its very hard to know how much pressure to apply to them. Because they are hidden by a rubber membrane, you have to apply enough pressure to the membrane to transfer the pressure to the actual buttons. Well the problem is that the membrane itself is hard enough to where, you don't really feel it go in when you apply the pressure. Just imagine holding a glass and pressing the side.
Another nuisance I found with the mouse is that the fucking thing locked up on me. I mean, all of a sudden, it would just stop moving the cursor. I had to unplug the usb connector from the pc and plug it back in. One thing that caused it, I think, was that when I applied new settings to a profile without a name, it did it. But other times, it did it successfully. I also had my trackball still connected, but im not sure if that caused it. It just seemed buggy to me.

Now, I used the thing for gaming for a couple days. So I don't have an accurate review in this case. I was able to kill some people, but it was difficult for me, just because of the position i had to have my hand in to move it correctly. I think if I kept at it, I think i could adapt to it, but in the expense of a non-ergonomic position.

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 1:32 am

Blackhawk wrote:
Faldarian wrote:Derail time I guess, but how was the MX700 (or similar option) on battery life?

That's the major concern that keeps me from going to any kind of wireless option, but if it's not a big deal at all I'll probably go grab one.
Effectively infinite. It uses built-in batteries, and charges in a cradle when you're not using it. Mine lasted a good twenty hours of heavy use on a two-hour charge. Put it in the cradle when you go to bed, and batteries will never even be a concern.

The battery didn't get its full charge until I had drained it and recharged it two or three times, but after three years, it still holds a full day's use on a single charge.

For those rare times when I forget to cradle it and it gets low on power, I keep the wired MS mouse that came with my system on my desk. Miraculously, WinXP picks up the fact that I've swithed my mouse without a hitch (only one cursor shows on the screen). Score one for Gates.