The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » Fri Feb 26, 2016 11:24 am

Kurth wrote: Only one guy on that stage is fit to be president, and that's Kasich.

Guy, yeah. But Carson's hands are totally presidential material! They're also movie stars. If only you could surgically attach those hands to Kasich, he would be unstoppable!

Kurth · Post by **Kurth** » Fri Feb 26, 2016 11:38 am

Marco Rubio: Not going to turn over GOP to 'con artist' Donald Trump

Building on the fake Trump University issue, I think Rubio has finally found his avenue of attack on the Donald. Took long enough!

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » Fri Feb 26, 2016 11:52 am

Kurth wrote: Building on the fake Trump University issue, I think Rubio has finally found his avenue of attack on the Donald. Took long enough!

Well, it would have required one of the campaigns to take Trump's campaign seriously enough to have done opposition research.

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Fri Feb 26, 2016 12:23 pm

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize Trump's a flimflam artist.

Can I say flimflam on this site?

FLIMFLAM!!

Sepiche · Post by **Sepiche** » Fri Feb 26, 2016 12:31 pm

Defiant wrote:Well, it would have required one of the campaigns to take Trump's campaign seriously enough to have done opposition research.

Yeah, that blew my mind. Even if you don't take the guy seriously it's just smart to build up a list of possible attacks, and Trumpland is a target rich environment for christ sake.

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » Fri Feb 26, 2016 1:20 pm

Sepiche wrote: Yeah, that blew my mind. Even if you don't take the guy seriously it's just smart to build up a list of possible attacks, and Trumpland is a target rich environment for christ sake.

Maybe it's like looking for a needle in a needle stack. Hard to find the really good stuff?

(I was thinking the reason they wouldn't attack Trump was because he can't be beaten that way - how can you be better at hurling insults than trump? All you might end up is getting as muddy as him and he thrives in the mud whereas they don't.... but that doesn't explain not looking into it)

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » Fri Feb 26, 2016 1:27 pm

Is this what they're reduced to? kindergarten humor?

Well, I guess Rubio is trying to imitate Trump and grab headlines.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Fri Feb 26, 2016 1:29 pm

Trump has been fighting at a 2nd grade level since the start. Remember his comments about Hillary Clinton's supposed backstage bathroom issues a while back? Now he's calling Rubio childish for saying the word "peed"?

What an a-hole.

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » Fri Feb 26, 2016 1:34 pm

hepcat wrote:Now he's calling Rubio childish for saying the word "peed"?

Actually, it was me that did. And yeah, Trumps a pig, but you don't need to get down in the muck with him.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Fri Feb 26, 2016 1:38 pm

Defiant wrote:
hepcat wrote:Now he's calling Rubio childish for saying the word "peed"?
Actually, it was me that did. And yeah, Trumps a pig, but you don't need to get down in the muck with him.

You're @donell27743094?

"@donell27743094: @realDonaldTrump trump won the debate. Disgusting Rubio said "peed" - is he still in junior high school."
6:29 AM - 26 Feb 2016

Trump retweeted it in agreement.

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » Fri Feb 26, 2016 1:43 pm

hepcat wrote:
Defiant wrote:
hepcat wrote:Now he's calling Rubio childish for saying the word "peed"?
Actually, it was me that did. And yeah, Trumps a pig, but you don't need to get down in the muck with him.
You're @donell27743094?

"@donell27743094: @realDonaldTrump trump won the debate. Disgusting Rubio said "peed" - is he still in junior high school."
6:29 AM - 26 Feb 2016
Trump retweeted it in agreement.

Oh, no. I was just the one who posted it here. I hadn't seen that tweet at all. (edit: I guess it's blocked by one of my browser extensions)

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » Fri Feb 26, 2016 1:59 pm

Christie Endorses Trump

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Fri Feb 26, 2016 2:02 pm

Defiant wrote:Christie Endorses Trump

With that, Trump loses New Jersey.

Grifman · Post by **Grifman** » Fri Feb 26, 2016 2:03 pm

Defiant wrote:Christie Endorses Trump

Whatever respect I had for Christie is just gone, not that I guess it matters. This is just spitting in Rubio's face.

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Fri Feb 26, 2016 2:05 pm

That can't be real. I see nothing of this in NJ local news. What the hell is happening???

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » Fri Feb 26, 2016 2:07 pm

Smoove_B wrote:That can't be real. I see nothing of this in NJ local news. What the hell is happening???

It's only just now breaking.

http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/20 ... t_breaking

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Fri Feb 26, 2016 2:08 pm

If he can't be president he's just going to burn the whole goddamn institution down.

Also, Trump gave him a donation for his new beach house.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Fri Feb 26, 2016 2:10 pm

Defiant wrote:Christie Endorses Trump

I was just going to post this.

There's no room in my Mars capsule - all of you stay away!

Sepiche · Post by **Sepiche** » Fri Feb 26, 2016 2:14 pm

Angling for VP maybe?

Rip · Post by **Rip** » Fri Feb 26, 2016 2:39 pm

Gov. Chris Christie is endorsing Donald Trump for president.

Appearing next to Trump in Fort Worth, Texas, Christie said Trump would "do what needs to be done to protect the American people."

"The one person Bill and Hillary Clinton do not want to see on that stage is Donald Trump," said Christie.

"He is re-writing the playbook of American politics," said Christie, "The best person to beat Hilary Clinton in November is undoubtably Donald Trump," said the governor.

Trump, the front runner for the party nomination, called Christie a great friend and great talent.

Christie assailed U.S. Sen. Marco Rubio, saying that the junior senator from Florida was "in the last days of a losing campaign" and not long for the fight.

The governor, who quit the race on Feb. 10, dismissed recent criticisms from Rubio of Trump, saying that "No one is going to get inside this guy's head....There is no better fighter than Donald Trump."

Christie jumped right into the campaign talking points and heaped praise on Trump.

"We don't need any more Washington, D.C., politicians (in the White House)," Christie said. "There was a time when we were running together and I wanted to beat him ... but this is the best person" to beat Hillary Clinton.

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Fri Feb 26, 2016 3:36 pm

Sepiche wrote:Angling for VP maybe?

That makes sense in a certain fashion. But if you're Trump; you'd also have to seriously consider Kasich...were Trump the nominee. I'd think Kasich could deliver Ohio. But honestly would Kasich be that power mad that he'd want to hop on Trump's crazy train? Its going to be fascinating to watch this evolve.

As a Dem I'm not sure I'm completely sold that facing Trump is a roflstomp; it would be a serious error to underestimate him, considering the amount of backing he's gotten.

Moliere · Post by **Moliere** » Fri Feb 26, 2016 3:59 pm

Chris Christie Throws His Weight Behind Donald Trump Campaign

It probably shouldn't come as too much of a surprise, given that both men are bombastic authoritarians who think their charisma can paper over shortcomings of their policies (Christie was wrong, but we can't yet say the same for Trump). Christie's debate shtick was to look directly into the camera to seem more personable and to interrupt any actual discussion of policy by the candidates who were also senators to complain about them just "talking" about issues and not actually doing anything. The last thing he did of note in the race was to get Rubio some negative attention by pointing out Rubio's tendency to keep repeating talking points (which Rubio has clearly learned from and used it against Trump just last night).

For libertarian conservatives Christie has been a non-starter with terrible positions on surveillance, military intervention, and medical marijuana.

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » Fri Feb 26, 2016 4:02 pm

Sepiche wrote:Angling for VP maybe?

Or maybe Secretary of the Dept of Transportation?

Also worth pointing out that Both Rubio and Cruz voted against Hurricane Sandy relief which might be part of the explanation.

Moliere · Post by **Moliere** » Fri Feb 26, 2016 4:41 pm

What a difference 4 weeks makes:

Chris Christie Warns New Hampshire Against Voting for Donald Trump

By nominating the wrong candidate, he continued, “We could wind up turning over the White House to Hillary Clinton for four more years.”

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Fri Feb 26, 2016 4:44 pm

This is why I hate politicians. It gives sociopathic liars their own high-powered career field.

Zarathud · Post by **Zarathud** » Fri Feb 26, 2016 5:44 pm

Christie can see the writing on the wall. Plus, what are Christie's options? Rubio will never forgive him for the Rubiobot shot, and Cruz is an asshole.

Trump is pivoting to focus on the general election already, and the GOP has been selling flimflam for decades. It's terrifying, but it's almost too late to stop the Trump.

Kraken · Post by **Kraken** » Fri Feb 26, 2016 8:02 pm

I guess it was about a week ago that I saw the handwriting on the wall and started reading everything about Trump that crosses my screen, because there's a strong likelihood that this blowhard will be our next POTUS and I am trying to understand (a) how that could possibly be and (b) if it will really be as disastrous as it seems -- i.e., to what degree does he really mean the garbage that comes out of his mouth.

Conclusion: Verbiage about Trump spews like a fire hose, and drinking deep from it must be what waterboarding is like. I need to take a step back.

Carpet_pissr · Post by **Carpet_pissr** » Fri Feb 26, 2016 8:51 pm

Somewhere in his speech, Christie said that a Trump presidency would return prestige to the USA on the world stage.

I...what....does he...??!!

Max Peck · Post by **Max Peck** » Fri Feb 26, 2016 9:04 pm

Carpet_pissr wrote:Somewhere in his speech, Christie said that a Trump presidency would return prestige to the USA on the world stage.

I...what....does he...??!!

He seems to be using "prestige" in the original sense.

Origin: mid 17th cent. (in the sense ‘illusion, conjuring trick’): from French, literally ‘illusion, glamour,’ from late Latin praestigium ‘illusion,’ from Latin praestigiae (plural) ‘conjuring tricks.’ The transference of meaning occurred by way of the sense ‘dazzling influence, glamour,’ at first depreciatory.

Rip · Post by **Rip** » Fri Feb 26, 2016 9:53 pm

The Donald is going to re-establish relations with NK and I know who the Ambassador will be.

Someone needs to hit up DPRK and have them tweet a note about the very wise Dennis Rodman opening their eyes about the possibilities of aligning with Trump! ASAP!

Grifman · Post by **Grifman** » Fri Feb 26, 2016 11:33 pm

Smoove_B wrote:That can't be real. I see nothing of this in NJ local news. What the hell is happening???

I actually thought it had to be an Onion story when I first saw it. Very hard to believe and very sad. Heard that Christie was wanting to "make an impact" (rather than do the right thing) and endorsing Trump was the way to do that. Plus he is likely angling for a cabinet seat. Very disgusting.

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » Fri Feb 26, 2016 11:40 pm

Defiant wrote:Mitt Romney thinks there's a bombshell in Trump's tax returns because he avoids discussing them.

IRS commissioner chimes in (speaking in a general sense)

He says it would be rare for anyone to be audited every year - once you're audited, you're generally not audited again for a number of years unless something in the returns pop up. And he says that the tax payer controls his return, and that there's generally nothing in an audit to prevent someone from making their return public.

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » Sat Feb 27, 2016 3:16 am

I wonder if Huckabee will endorse Trump

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » Sat Feb 27, 2016 2:45 pm

Whitman scorches Christie over Trump, prefers Hillary (over Trump, anyway. She's endorsed Kasich)

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » Sat Feb 27, 2016 3:02 pm

While still hopeful that Mr. Rubio might prevail, Mr. McConnell has begun preparing senators for the prospect of a Trump nomination, assuring them that, if it threatened to harm them in the general election, they could run negative ads about Mr. Trump to create space between him and Republican senators seeking re-election. Mr. McConnell has raised the possibility of treating Mr. Trump’s loss as a given and describing a Republican Senate to voters as a necessary check on a President Hillary Clinton, according to senators at the lunches.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/28/us/po ... party.html

Grifman · Post by **Grifman** » Sat Feb 27, 2016 5:13 pm

Moliere wrote:What a difference 4 weeks makes:

Chris Christie Warns New Hampshire Against Voting for Donald Trump

By nominating the wrong candidate, he continued, “We could wind up turning over the White House to Hillary Clinton for four more years.”

I would be running commercials with those quotes from Christie 24x7. What a tool and hypocrite.

tgb · Post by **tgb** » Sun Feb 28, 2016 4:54 pm

Has there ever been any other time in history when the chair of a major political party has urged Senatorial candidates to disassociate themselves from the Presidential?

McConnell is basically saying "The ship is going down. Save yourselves".

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » Sun Feb 28, 2016 5:10 pm

On MTP, someone suggested the possibility of Republicans running a third party conservative candidate (Independent In Name Only?) in order to get out the vote (for downticket races) among establishment voters who might otherwise stay at home than vote for Trump

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » Sun Feb 28, 2016 6:02 pm

Trump's excuse for not releasing his tax returns raises more questions than it answers

Zarathud · Post by **Zarathud** » Sun Feb 28, 2016 7:04 pm

Trump's tax returns likely raise questions about his "successful businessman" pitch. Some companies are audited every year because of their size, but an individual only receives regular audit attention if their businesses are extremely complicated and raise tax issues. Plus, the IRS focuses where they think additional revenue can be raised -- so Trump may be taking questionable tax positions.