Remus West wrote:Honestly Sanchez isn't worse than Manning was much of last season. I'd be more concerned about keeping the defense in tack were I a Broncos fan. Whomever they end up with at QB is not going to be asked to win a lot of games for them. Mostly they will need to not lose them. Sanchez did a great job of that when the Jets had an actual defense. Not that I'd be excited but I wouldn't be all too upset either.
That is exactly what I've been telling all Broncos fans who think the sky is falling.
Peyton did a good job of not screwing up things in the playoffs. That's all they need at QB... Someone serviceable.
Xmann wrote:Elway just tweeted this is just the first step in the process of finding a QB.
Got to think Sanchez is just for competition and no real idea he can be the starter.
Right?
Let me join you in the great River Denial. I have been seeing a conspiracy theory this is all because PHI wouldn't trade him to SF, so we will now.
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Well do you ever get the feeling that the story's too damn real and in the present tense?
Or that everybody's on the stage and it seems like you're the only person sitting in the audience?
"The world is suffering more today from the good people who want to mind other men's business than it is from the bad people who are willing to let everybody look after their own individual affairs." - Clarence Darrow
Per a league source, contracts being offered to new players state that the laws of Missouri, not California, control the relationship. The NFL Players Association has in turn instructed all certified contract agents to reject that term as “inappropriate.”
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From the contract: “The parties hereto acknowledge that this Player Contract has been negotiated and executed in Missouri; that should any dispute, claim or cause of action (collectively ‘dispute’) arise concerning rights or liabilities arising from the relationship between the Player and the Club, the parties hereto agree that the law governing such dispute shall be the law of the State of Missouri. Furthermore, the exclusive jurisdiction for resolving Workers’ Compensation related claims shall be the Division of Workers’ Compensation of Missouri, and the Missouri Workers’ Compensation Act shall govern.”
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The NFLPA strongly disagrees. “We believe that any reference to the state of Missouri is inappropriate since the Rams have relocated to California as evidenced by the fact that they have changed their name on their website to the Los Angeles Rams, are prepared to hold off-season workouts and training camp in California, and will practice and play their home games in California in 2016,” the union says in the memo to all agents.
stessier wrote:The Patriots just traded Chandler Jones and his drug dealer to the Cardinals! Did NOT see that coming.
That's a bummer. I suppose they weren't going to extend all of the defensive players whose contracts were coming up semi-soon, and Jones wound up being the odd man out.
Baltimore Ravens cornerback Tray Walker died Friday, one day after being critically injured in a dirt bike accident in Liberty City, Florida. He was 23.
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Walker was heading west on Northwest 75th Street on a Honda dirt bike when he collided with a Ford Escape heading south on Northwest 21st Avenue, according to the Miami-Dade Police Department. The accident occurred at about 7:50 p.m. on Thursday, and police said Walker's bike did not have headlights and that he was wearing dark clothing.
The intersection where the accident took place is a two-way stop. Walker was not wearing a helmet, Butler said.
Funny that he explains what it means to retire the number. Will Manning go in the HoF as a Bronco or Colt? I haven't heard any confirmation or of any 1 day signing.
"The world is suffering more today from the good people who want to mind other men's business than it is from the bad people who are willing to let everybody look after their own individual affairs." - Clarence Darrow
"The world is suffering more today from the good people who want to mind other men's business than it is from the bad people who are willing to let everybody look after their own individual affairs." - Clarence Darrow
According to what police told ESPN, Walker crashed with another vehicle at an intersection around 8 p.m. last night. They added that he was wearing dark clothes and the motorcycle did not have lights.
stands out as a big why the hell would you do that? I guess at 23 you still believe youre immortal.
Well do you ever get the feeling that the story's too damn real and in the present tense?
Or that everybody's on the stage and it seems like you're the only person sitting in the audience?
So Bennett starts getting pissy last year when Zach Miller emerged as a pretty decent option after Bennett sat out a few games with a minor injury, and now he's thinks life will improve carrying Gronk's jock strap? The suggestion was the trade was better than nothing, as he was becoming such a clubhouse cancer that the Bears would have been forced to cut him anyway.
Anyway, good riddance to the #2 reason my FF team tanked last year.
Browns Executive Vice President of Football Operations Sashi Brown, coach Hue Jackson and Chief Strategy Officer Paul DePodesta met with a small group of Browns media here at the NFL Annual Meeting on Monday morning.
Here are some quick highlights:
• Brown said the Browns are moving forward on possibly signing quarterback Robert Griffin III and that the team is doing its due diligence. He did not sound like a signing is imminent, but those things can change. Griffin III and his agent, Ben Dogra, are not at the meetings.
• Brown said the Browns are not actively engaged in trade talks with the 49ers for Colin Kaepernick, "and at this point we don't anticipate being engaged with San Francisco." He said the Browns were called to see if they were interested, and engaged in some preliminary talks. He said the Browns' interest was "over-reported," and that they never negotiated a draft pick or a new contract for Kaepernick.
• Brown and Jackson said the Browns are proceeding as if they won't have suspended receiver Josh Gordon, and will deal with it if he's reinstated. In the event he is reinstated, "we would need to see where his head is at before you bring him back into the locker room.''
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• Brown said Gordon is not part of the Browns organization right now, and therefore he had no comment on him hanging out with Johnny Manziel.
Peyton spurns the Colts offer for a one day contract, which would let him go into the HOF as a Colt. He will go in as a Bronco. I understand that he isnt all that fond of Irsay and all but thats quite the big FU to the fans in Indy.
Regarding the Browns and RG3, I guess the only question is why not? The franchise is a mess, Johnny Football is a bust and its not like the Browns are going to turn things around immediately. Its a fresh start for RG3 at a place where expectations are low. It may actually be a good fit.
Well do you ever get the feeling that the story's too damn real and in the present tense?
Or that everybody's on the stage and it seems like you're the only person sitting in the audience?
I thought your former team still owns you after retirement? Slavery, er contracts, don't end because you "retire".
"The world is suffering more today from the good people who want to mind other men's business than it is from the bad people who are willing to let everybody look after their own individual affairs." - Clarence Darrow
I thought your former team still owns you after retirement? Slavery, er contracts, don't end because you "retire".
Yes, sadly. Hence the article's speculation that Megatron's cap hit the year after next (assuming he takes this year off) would be so high that the Lions might cut him.
Or Belichick's dark sorcery compels the Lions to cut him.
The league still will ask for volunteers. If one is not forthcoming, a team will be appointed. All organizations will be eligible with the exception of those that have a first-year head coach; teams that have made the playoffs in at least one of the last two seasons; and teams that have participated in the previous 10 seasons.
Based on my review of the data, that left 8 teams in the barrel:
Buffalo Bills
Chicago Bears
Jacksonville Jaguars
New Orleans Saints
Oakland Raiders
Los Angeles Rams
San Diego Chargers
Tennessee Titans
I don't understand the playoff rule. Wouldn't you want a team from the playoffs over a team that didn't make the playoffs? Who wants to watch the Cleveland Browns edition? Forcing non-playoff teams to participate when they don't want to seems like it would make it more likely they would not make the playoffs due to the unwanted distraction. From a monetary standpoint winning teams generally have more fans (or at least more vocal fans) which would lead to higher ratings. Makes no sense to me.
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EvilHomer3k wrote:I don't understand the playoff rule. Wouldn't you want a team from the playoffs over a team that didn't make the playoffs? Who wants to watch the Cleveland Browns edition? Forcing non-playoff teams to participate when they don't want to seems like it would make it more likely they would not make the playoffs due to the unwanted distraction. From a monetary standpoint winning teams generally have more fans (or at least more vocal fans) which would lead to higher ratings. Makes no sense to me.
The NFL wants the drama of a team trying to get back into the playoffs. With the Rams they get the added drama of moving to a new home as well.
I also wonder about the internal politics of stuff like this. I generally assume that teams would not be super interested in participating since it seems like mostly a distraction from being a successful football team, and the value of participating (PR) would be more diminished for successful teams.
Which leads me to wonder whether dominant franchises pushed for that exclusion.
El Guapo wrote:I also wonder about the internal politics of stuff like this. I generally assume that teams would not be super interested in participating since it seems like mostly a distraction from being a successful football team, and the value of participating (PR) would be more diminished for successful teams.
Which leads me to wonder whether dominant franchises pushed for that exclusion.
Of course they did. The only way they wouldn't is if they believed they would be compensated enough to offset the loss of revenue they believed the distraction would cost them.
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A longtime NFL reporter revealed Wednesday the NFL agreed to a deal where the Los Angeles Rams — then St. Louis — didn’t have to do HBO’s “Hard Knocks” series in 2014 if they drafted Michael Sam.
the deal is not actually for $53 million and five years. It's a one-year contract for $5 million (with a max of $8 million with incentives), with an option for four-years, $48 million with $20.5 million guaranteed.
Should the Broncos decide they do not want to pay him $12 million a year for the next four years, they can decline the option, and Okung will hit the free agent market once again. If they do, he will become the fourth-highest paid tackle in the league. Last season, according to Pro Football Focus, he ranked 24th in the league.
Starting to sound like a pretty bad deal? Well – it gets worse.
The Broncos could actually get away with paying him just $1 million, considering how the first year of the deal is structured. His base salary is $2 million, he'll get a roster bonus of $2 million once he is on the roster for one regular season game, and he'll get a $1 million workout bonus for participating in the off-season program—but not till it ends.
"The world is suffering more today from the good people who want to mind other men's business than it is from the bad people who are willing to let everybody look after their own individual affairs." - Clarence Darrow
Be careful with that line of reasoning. That's the narrative that's being pushed behind the scenes by agents. In order to justify the current cost of agents.
I've analysis by others (ex-agents with no skin in the game), and the deal is not nearly as bad as it's being made out to be considering that Okung is coming off shoulder surgery.
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Get down on their knees and pray
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Make up bags of change
But the monkey in the corner
Well he's slowly drifting out of range
RunningMn9 wrote:Be careful with that line of reasoning. That's the narrative that's being pushed behind the scenes by agents. In order to justify the current cost of agents.
I've analysis by others (ex-agents with no skin in the game), and the deal is not nearly as bad as it's being made out to be considering that Okung is coming off shoulder surgery.
It mostly works against him if he suffers another injury this year. He's gambling that he won't. He's also gambling that his level of play will be high.
If he plays well, he'll get paid. If Denver still chooses not to keep him, he'll get a big paycheck elsewhere. A more conservative contract would have had more guaranteed money, but much smaller amounts. This is pretty much a one-year prove it deal, Denver just has the first option to pay him if he proves it. Would anyone be suggesting he was doing the wrong thing if he just signed a one year contract to prove himself?
Jeff V wrote:This is pretty much a one-year prove it deal
That's the point that I saw made - that this was the only option facing Okung given the health questions. Agents are making a big deal about it, but the issue wouldn't have been much different had he had an agent.
And in banks across the world
Christians, Moslems, Hindus, Jews
And every other race, creed, colour, tint or hue
Get down on their knees and pray
The raccoon and the groundhog neatly
Make up bags of change
But the monkey in the corner
Well he's slowly drifting out of range
Jeff V wrote:This is pretty much a one-year prove it deal
That's the point that I saw made - that this was the only option facing Okung given the health questions. Agents are making a big deal about it, but the issue wouldn't have been much different had he had an agent.
Did Okung use contract lawyers in connection with the deal, even if he didn't use traditional "agents"? He must have, right?
The part where I think a player would be likely to get screwed would be less the financial terms (which the player might be able to do more or less on their own by referencing other annual salaries for comparable players), but the terms of the contract itself. If the team has contract lawyers doing the deal and the player does not, I think it would be pretty easy for the team to sneak through terms that are super favorable to the team in how they operate, without the player realizing.
I can't imagine that he's crazy enough to do this without even a lawyer. But I would also think that there's got to be a limit to how badly the team is willing to screw over an employee that they need to rely on in some capacity to protect the blind side of their QB. Like...you want that player to be happy, not seething with contract-related rage.
And in banks across the world
Christians, Moslems, Hindus, Jews
And every other race, creed, colour, tint or hue
Get down on their knees and pray
The raccoon and the groundhog neatly
Make up bags of change
But the monkey in the corner
Well he's slowly drifting out of range
RunningMn9 wrote:I can't imagine that he's crazy enough to do this without even a lawyer. But I would also think that there's got to be a limit to how badly the team is willing to screw over an employee that they need to rely on in some capacity to protect the blind side of their QB. Like...you want that player to be happy, not seething with contract-related rage.
It just seems like a fine line between "using an agent" and "using a lawyer who regularly does professional sports contract negotiation and execution." I would think that a lot of agents are or are associated with lawyers.
El Guapo wrote:It just seems like a fine line between "using an agent" and "using a lawyer who regularly does professional sports contract negotiation and execution." I would think that a lot of agents are or are associated with lawyers.
Using a lawyer to review a contract before you sign it seems substantially different than having the lawyer negotiate the contract with the team on your behalf. I believe we're looking at the former.
And in banks across the world
Christians, Moslems, Hindus, Jews
And every other race, creed, colour, tint or hue
Get down on their knees and pray
The raccoon and the groundhog neatly
Make up bags of change
But the monkey in the corner
Well he's slowly drifting out of range
Did NOT see that coming.
