The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse

coopasonic · Post by **coopasonic** » Thu Jun 09, 2016 10:40 am

The good news for Trump is that it can only get better from here.

Enough · Post by **Enough** » Thu Jun 09, 2016 11:43 am

I see lots of Hillary, and if you wander the site you will see Reagan of course, but OMG it's like a game of where's Waldo. Can you find Trump on the official RNC website?

Edit: fwiw, I just found if you use the search function you can find some press releases about Trump. But they are completely buried on the site, heh.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Thu Jun 09, 2016 11:50 am

They REALLY are twisting in the wind with Trump, aren't they?

It's like the entire party is on high alert. They know he's going to say something stupid or hateful again, but they're hedging their bets by tentatively supporting him...while still looking for a back door in case he starts advocating slavery, or telling us that he has a giant dick and that's why he's going to make ISIS go away.

Malificent · Post by **Malificent** » Thu Jun 09, 2016 12:19 pm

hepcat wrote:

They REALLY are twisting in the wind with Trump, aren't they?

It's like the entire party is on high alert. They know he's going to say something stupid or hateful again, but they're hedging their bets by tentatively supporting him...while still looking for a back door in case he starts advocating slavery, or telling us that he has a giant dick and that's why he's going to make ISIS go away.

He's got HUGE....tracts of land.

tgb · Post by **tgb** » Thu Jun 09, 2016 1:07 pm

Malificent wrote:
hepcat wrote:

They REALLY are twisting in the wind with Trump, aren't they?

It's like the entire party is on high alert. They know he's going to say something stupid or hateful again, but they're hedging their bets by tentatively supporting him...while still looking for a back door in case he starts advocating slavery, or telling us that he has a giant dick and that's why he's going to make ISIS go away.
He's got HUGE....tracts of land.

Maybe he's a blues fan.

Enough · Post by **Enough** » Thu Jun 09, 2016 2:04 pm

The Oatmeal (with Phil Plait assisting) has a perfect take on Trumpf.

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » Thu Jun 09, 2016 4:34 pm

Hundreds allege Donald Trump doesn’t pay his bills

hitbyambulance · Post by **hitbyambulance** » Thu Jun 09, 2016 4:41 pm

Defiant wrote:Hundreds allege Donald Trump doesn’t pay his bills

i knew he reminded me of a CEO of a small start-up i used to work for - now there's a direct similarity. f'n scumbag.

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Thu Jun 09, 2016 5:24 pm

Defiant wrote:Hundreds allege Donald Trump doesn’t pay his bills

This is not a surprise and perfectly in line with everything I learned about the guy in the late 80's/early 90's.

msduncan · Post by **msduncan** » Thu Jun 09, 2016 11:57 pm

Malificent wrote:
hepcat wrote:

They REALLY are twisting in the wind with Trump, aren't they?

It's like the entire party is on high alert. They know he's going to say something stupid or hateful again, but they're hedging their bets by tentatively supporting him...while still looking for a back door in case he starts advocating slavery, or telling us that he has a giant dick and that's why he's going to make ISIS go away.
He's got HUGE....tracts of land.

It's YUGE. Com'on! Get it right!

RunningMn9 · Post by **RunningMn9** » Fri Jun 10, 2016 10:13 am

msd - did you ever address the fact that Clinton doesn't actually want to repeal the 2nd Amendment, as you claimed?

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » Fri Jun 10, 2016 10:22 am

4-in-10 GOP insiders want to derail Trump at the convention

tgb · Post by **tgb** » Fri Jun 10, 2016 11:34 am

Defiant wrote:4-in-10 GOP insiders want to derail Trump at the convention

If Trump has the nomination taken away from him, all hell will break loose, and rightfully so. You (Republicans) knew what he was for the past year and picked him anyway. Now you're stuck with him, and rightfully so.

To quote Julius Caesar, "lentus titties".

Rip · Post by **Rip** » Fri Jun 10, 2016 12:22 pm

RunningMn9 wrote:msd - did you ever address the fact that Clinton doesn't actually want to repeal the 2nd Amendment, as you claimed?

I don't know about repeal but she certainly wants to change the current definition.

Hillary Clinton believes a 2008 Supreme Court ruling that is the linchpin of an individual's right to own a gun was "wrongly decided," her policy adviser told Bloomberg Politics on Friday.

"Clinton believes Heller was wrongly decided in that cities and states should have the power to craft common sense laws to keep their residents safe, like safe storage laws to prevent toddlers from accessing guns," Maya Harris, a policy adviser to Clinton, said in an e-mailed statement. "In overturning Washington D.C.'s safe storage law, Clinton worries that Heller may open the door to overturning thoughtful, common sense safety measures in the future."

The stance by Clinton, the all-but-certain Democratic presidential nominee, carries potentially profound implications for the future of gun rights in the U.S.

In striking down a longstanding handgun ban in the District of Columbia, the D.C. v. Heller ruling marked the first time the Supreme Court held that the Second Amendment protected an individual's right to own a firearm for lawful purposes such as self-defense in the home.

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/artic ... viser-says

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Fri Jun 10, 2016 12:32 pm

In other words, no, you guys can't prove the wrongful claim that Clinton is trying to repeal the 2nd amendment.

Thank you for admitting it, at least.

RunningMn9 · Post by **RunningMn9** » Fri Jun 10, 2016 12:32 pm

So she wants to return to the 2nd Amendment rights you had in 2007. She thinks that DCvHeller was wrongly decided. That's not the same as what MSD claimed.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Fri Jun 10, 2016 12:43 pm

Reversing DC vs. Heller would require federal legislation. And we know there will be no traction in the House until 2021 at the earliest, which means re-election for the president and a flip of the House.

RunningMn9 · Post by **RunningMn9** » Fri Jun 10, 2016 12:45 pm

Isgrimnur wrote:Reversing DC vs. Heller would require federal legislation. And we know there will be no traction in the House until 2021 at the earliest, which means re-election for the president and a flip of the House.

Right. How long have Conservatives been tilting at the Roe v. Wade windmill?

tgb · Post by **tgb** » Fri Jun 10, 2016 2:59 pm

You just can't argue with crazy.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Fri Jun 10, 2016 3:49 pm

You know who you should back as your president, folks? Someone that your own party says is obviously unaware of the issues.

I'm fascinated by the internal twisting going on in the GOP in order to justify backing someone they obviously don't want and that they know is going to be a disaster. And it's not even a case of Mr. Smith Goes to Washington, it's Bonzo Goes to Washington.

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » Fri Jun 10, 2016 4:58 pm

Guess it's general election time: Trump: 'No one should be judged by their race or their color

Enough · Post by **Enough** » Fri Jun 10, 2016 5:10 pm

Defiant wrote:Guess it's general election time: Trump: 'No one should be judged by their race or their color

Time to roll out these classic lyrics once more,

Subhumans wrote:Here comes the hero
At temperature zero
Warming his hands on the crowd
He says "now that I've changed
I'm exactly the same"
But nobody hears 'cause the cheering's too loud
Hypocrisy on a massive scale
Hero/cult/revolutionary
It's all a show
But now we know
All they want is your money
Hero lost his conscience, yes
But now he's getting serious
"Forget the system, let's have fun"
Hero! Take the money and run!
The heroes are forgotten now
Floundered on their reputation
The old elite
Came off the street
And wound up as an institution
The next generation won't produce
The heroes and the fashion freaks
There's nothing new
In what we do
Just commitment and beliefs

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Fri Jun 10, 2016 6:16 pm

Isgrimnur wrote:Reversing DC vs. Heller would require federal legislation. And we know there will be no traction in the House until 2021 at the earliest, which means re-election for the president and a flip of the House.

Would it, though? I am pretty sure you could attack it through state level legislation, much like Roe.

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Fri Jun 10, 2016 6:19 pm

El Guapo wrote:
Isgrimnur wrote:Reversing DC vs. Heller would require federal legislation. And we know there will be no traction in the House until 2021 at the earliest, which means re-election for the president and a flip of the House.
Would it, though? I am pretty sure you could attack it through state level legislation, much like Roe.

Or require that people with an open or concealed carry permit must use special, designed bathrooms.

tgb · Post by **tgb** » Fri Jun 10, 2016 6:25 pm

Defiant wrote:Guess it's general election time: Trump: 'No one should be judged by their race or their color

I wonder who wrote it.

Enough · Post by **Enough** » Fri Jun 10, 2016 6:47 pm

tgb wrote:
Defiant wrote:Guess it's general election time: Trump: 'No one should be judged by their race or their color
I wonder who wrote it.

Hmmmm....

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Sat Jun 11, 2016 12:06 am

Defiant wrote:Guess it's general election time: Trump: 'No one should be judged by their race or their color

I thought he said, 'No one should be a judge, if they're of a certain race or color.'

Chrisoc13 · Post by **Chrisoc13** » Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:48 am

Unagi wrote:
Defiant wrote:Guess it's general election time: Trump: 'No one should be judged by their race or their color
I thought he said, 'No one should be a judge, if they're of a certain race or color.'

Well played.

msduncan · Post by **msduncan** » Sat Jun 11, 2016 11:51 am

msduncan · Post by **msduncan** » Sat Jun 11, 2016 11:52 am

Here's a good one too:

tgb · Post by **tgb** » Sat Jun 11, 2016 11:55 am

msduncan wrote:

Bullshit.

It starts in 1973, when the United States Department of Justice went to court with a discrimination complaint against the Trump family business, which rented apartments across Brooklyn and Queens. Coming from the administration of Richard Nixon, who was hardly a civil rights agitator, the complaint was based on an investigation that found four different Trump employees confirming that applicants for leases were screened by race. One rental agent said Trump’s father had told him not to rent to blacks and that he actually wanted to reduce the number of African Americans in his buildings. Three doormen said they had been instructed to deflect blacks who came to Trump buildings to apply for apartments.

Though just 26 years old at the time, Donald Trump was already president of the Trump Organization. Rather than work with the government to bring the company into compliance with the law, as the New York apartment king Sam LeFrak had done, Trump retained one of the most notorious lawyers in the country, Roy Cohn, and commence an all-out legal war. Cohn, who had been Joe McCarthy’s chief inquisitor during the senator’s witch hunt for communists in the government, filed a $410 million lawsuit against the federal government and smeared the justice department attorneys with terms such as “storm troopers” and “Gestapo.” Trump complained in the press of “reverse discrimination” and alleged a “nationwide drive” to force landlords to “rent to welfare recipients.”.........

Next in the Trump record on race came a 1991 book by John O’Donnell, who had been president of Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino in Atlantic City. O’Donnell quoted Trump saying,“ Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys wearing yarmulkes… Those are the only kind of people I want counting my money. Nobody else…Besides that, I tell you something else. I think that’s guy’s lazy. And it’s probably not his fault because laziness is a trait in blacks.”

O’Donnell’s report was shocking, but Trump did not contest it at the time. In 1997 he was interviewed for Playboy by author Mark Bowden and he confirmed that the O’Donnell book was “probably true.”

Wait. That article can't be true. It was from that liberal pinko rag, Fortune Magazine.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Sat Jun 11, 2016 11:58 am

MSD isn't even trying to post facts anymore. He's become that embarrassing Facebook friend who believes every right wing conspiracy he hears...no matter how easily disproved.

msduncan · Post by **msduncan** » Sat Jun 11, 2016 11:58 am

tgb wrote:
msduncan wrote:
Bullshit.

It starts in 1973, when the United States Department of Justice went to court with a discrimination complaint against the Trump family business, which rented apartments across Brooklyn and Queens. Coming from the administration of Richard Nixon, who was hardly a civil rights agitator, the complaint was based on an investigation that found four different Trump employees confirming that applicants for leases were screened by race. One rental agent said Trump’s father had told him not to rent to blacks and that he actually wanted to reduce the number of African Americans in his buildings. Three doormen said they had been instructed to deflect blacks who came to Trump buildings to apply for apartments.

Though just 26 years old at the time, Donald Trump was already president of the Trump Organization. Rather than work with the government to bring the company into compliance with the law, as the New York apartment king Sam LeFrak had done, Trump retained one of the most notorious lawyers in the country, Roy Cohn, and commence an all-out legal war. Cohn, who had been Joe McCarthy’s chief inquisitor during the senator’s witch hunt for communists in the government, filed a $410 million lawsuit against the federal government and smeared the justice department attorneys with terms such as “storm troopers” and “Gestapo.” Trump complained in the press of “reverse discrimination” and alleged a “nationwide drive” to force landlords to “rent to welfare recipients.”
Wait. That's article can't be true. It was from that liberal pinko rag, Fortune Magazine.

So you link an opinion piece that takes the opportunity to accuse Reagan and talks about 'coded language'. Meh.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Sat Jun 11, 2016 12:01 pm

msduncan wrote: Translation: law breaking is ok if my guy or gal does it.

msduncan · Post by **msduncan** » Sat Jun 11, 2016 12:02 pm

hepcat wrote:MSD isn't even trying to post facts anymore. He's become that embarrassing Facebook friend who believes every right wing conspiracy he hears...no matter how easily disproved.

Facts according to who? Mother Jones? The racist/bigot/sexist lynch mob that roams around the internet these days slinging those terms around to anyone they disagree with? The "safe place" crowd? George Soros?

RunningMn9 · Post by **RunningMn9** » Sat Jun 11, 2016 12:06 pm

msduncan wrote:

To be fair, he was never once accused of being racist (and I'm taking that on faith) until he started saying racist things to appeal to Republicans.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Sat Jun 11, 2016 12:07 pm

msduncan wrote:
hepcat wrote:MSD isn't even trying to post facts anymore. He's become that embarrassing Facebook friend who believes every right wing conspiracy he hears...no matter how easily disproved.
Facts according to who? Mother Jones? The racist/bigot/sexist lynch mob that roams around the internet these days slinging those terms around to anyone they disagree with? The "safe place" crowd? George Soros?

You do realize Trump's history of racism when he was a landlord back in his early days is well documented, right?

Exodor · Post by **Exodor** » Sat Jun 11, 2016 12:11 pm

msduncan wrote:
hepcat wrote:MSD isn't even trying to post facts anymore. He's become that embarrassing Facebook friend who believes every right wing conspiracy he hears...no matter how easily disproved.
Facts according to who? Mother Jones?

Yeah, what are you going to believe - the words that come out of Trump's mouth or a series of photos of him with people of different races?

Malificent · Post by **Malificent** » Sat Jun 11, 2016 12:11 pm

I didn't know any of those things about Trump that Fortune piece mentioned. I could classify Donald Trump as racist simply on the things that have come out of his mouth this election campaign. Also, misogynist if we want to throw another appropriate -ist in there.

I'm not super liberal. I've voted Republican in the past. This is not me trying to "win" the election for the left at all costs. I just know if I, personally, had said half of the things that Trump said, my friends and family would be disturbed.

Honestly, the Republicans trying to walk back this racism is like that guy who claims he's not racist because he's got a black friend. Just own it, for pete's sake.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Sat Jun 11, 2016 12:12 pm

"...and he was never once accused of being racist by anyone until he decided to run against the Democrats."

A better translation would be "His racism was never treated as a big deal until he decided to run for President of the United States."

Unless you think we should have a Racism Police going after everyone all the time, it makes perfect sense that Trump's racism wouldn't have become a matter of wide public concern until his current campaign.