The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Thu Jul 07, 2016 3:33 pm

relentless morons can come across as trolls from time to time.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Thu Jul 07, 2016 3:34 pm

speaking of...

Rip wrote:Strawman of a strawman. Nice.

Honestly, Rip.... You didn't even get the joke, did ya?

"go away Donald"

Ohhh kayyyy .... bye....

Moliere · Post by **Moliere** » Thu Jul 07, 2016 3:52 pm

Trump, seeking GOP unity, has tense meeting with Senate Republicans

Rep. Mark Sanford (R-S.C.) left the meeting worried about Trump’s grasp on the basics of the Constitution. At a lunch with reporters afterward, he recalled that the candidate did not seem to know what he was promising to defend.

“I wasn’t particularly impressed,” said Sanford. “It was the normal stream of consciousness that’s long on hyperbole and short on facts. At one point, somebody asked about Article I powers: What will you do to protect them? I think his response was, ‘I want to protect Article I, Article II, Article XII,’ going down the list. There is no Article XII.”

Trump said at the meeting that he has yet to attack Flake hard but threatened to begin doing so. Flake stood up to Trump by urging him to stop attacking Mexicans. Trump predicted that Flake would lose his reelection, at which point Flake informed Trump that he was not on the ballot this year, the sources said.

Asked in a Senate hallway later about his exchange with Trump, Flake declined to elaborate.

“No, I’ll just leave it,” he told reporters, adding “my position remains, I want to support the nominee. I really do. I just can’t support him given the things that he’s said.”

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Thu Jul 07, 2016 4:10 pm

When asked by House Republicans about his problem with Latino support, Trump reportedly said, "The Hispanics love me!" and dismissed the issue.

That flavor of bullshit might play on Twitter, but everyone in the room knew it was nonsense. Not very reassuring to a roomful of people facing re-election with Trump at the top of the ticket.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Thu Jul 07, 2016 4:27 pm

People aren't voting for him for his smarts, man! They're voting for him because they saw him on TV...and he had a board game named after him.

tgb · Post by **tgb** » Thu Jul 07, 2016 4:49 pm

hepcat wrote:People aren't voting for him for his smarts, man! They're voting for him because they saw him on TV...and he had a board game named after him.

Which I'm ashamed to admit we own.

More on Jeff Flake, who I'm normally no fan of, but who occasionally gets one right.

The Washington Post reported that when the Arizona Republican stood up and introduced himself, Trump said, "You've been very critical of me."

"Yes, I'm the other senator from Arizona — the one who didn't get captured — and I want to talk to you about statements like that," Flake responded, two Republican officials told the Post.

Flake was referring to Trump's comments from roughly one year ago when he questioned whether Sen. John McCain of Arizona was a war hero because he was captured during the Vietnam War. Trump said he preferred people who weren't captured.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Thu Jul 07, 2016 7:40 pm

tgb wrote:
hepcat wrote:People aren't voting for him for his smarts, man! They're voting for him because they saw him on TV...and he had a board game named after him.
Which I'm ashamed to admit we own.

Can you make it to the next Octocon with it?

tgb · Post by **tgb** » Thu Jul 07, 2016 7:45 pm

hepcat wrote:
tgb wrote:
hepcat wrote:People aren't voting for him for his smarts, man! They're voting for him because they saw him on TV...and he had a board game named after him.
Which I'm ashamed to admit we own.

Can you make it to the next Octocon with it?

Will Rip be there?

Zarathud · Post by **Zarathud** » Thu Jul 07, 2016 8:01 pm

I'm pretty sure my family's copy was destroyed when a pipe burst over the games closet--a month after I rescued my copy of Avalon Hill's Dune.

raydude · Post by **raydude** » Fri Jul 08, 2016 8:08 am

Zarathud wrote:I'm pretty sure my family's copy was destroyed when a pipe burst over the games closet--a month after I rescued my copy of Avalon Hill's Dune.

The SPICE must flow...

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Fri Jul 08, 2016 8:49 am

tgb wrote:
hepcat wrote:
tgb wrote:
hepcat wrote:People aren't voting for him for his smarts, man! They're voting for him because they saw him on TV...and he had a board game named after him.
Which I'm ashamed to admit we own.

Can you make it to the next Octocon with it?
Will Rip be there?

We've invited him numerous times, but he always declines because he says the smell of liberal filth in that room must be overwhelming.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Fri Jul 08, 2016 9:17 am

Moliere wrote:Trump, seeking GOP unity, has tense meeting with Senate Republicans

...

And don't overlook that this was Trump attempting to improve relations and reassure his allies.

This is what Trump diplomacy looks like.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Fri Jul 08, 2016 9:36 am

Trump is to diplomacy what Trump is to casinos.

Enough · Post by **Enough** » Fri Jul 08, 2016 3:47 pm

Trump releases a fairly reasonable statement after Dallas and now surrogate and potential running mate Newt Gingrich comes out and says if you are a normal white American, truth is you don't understand being black in America. WTF, is the presidential pivot actually happening?

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Fri Jul 08, 2016 3:56 pm

Don't worry. The crazy, it can't be contained. Tweets incoming!

YellowKing · Post by **YellowKing** » Fri Jul 08, 2016 3:56 pm

If Trump chooses Newt Gingrich for VP, my stepdad is going to have a permanent hard-on from now through November.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Fri Jul 08, 2016 3:58 pm

YellowKing wrote:If Trump chooses Newt Gingrich for VP, my stepdad is going to have a permanent hard-on from now through November.

The verification process for this strikes me as extraordinarily awkward.

Zarathud · Post by **Zarathud** » Fri Jul 08, 2016 7:57 pm

Can you imagine? Newt Gingrich led the Bill Clinton impeachment. Chris Christie wants to prosecute Hillary Clinton. Trump may be dumb, but he is cunning and knows how to feed the crowd.

I have followed Newt since 1984. I went into tax law because he proposed switching payroll taxes for "flat" VATs. He's a policy wonk with no moral scruples or charisma whatsoever. He's the original bomb-thrower who destroyed civility and turned Congress into its current hyper-partisan state. Newt's perfect for the VP role that Trump needs. And they even both have a terrible record with women.

Rip · Post by **Rip** » Fri Jul 08, 2016 8:07 pm

Newt would be perfect IMHO.

Throw in Bolton for Secretary of State and we are halfway to Trumptopia.

Grifman · Post by **Grifman** » Fri Jul 08, 2016 10:30 pm

Rip wrote:Newt would be perfect IMHO.

Throw in Bolton for Secretary of State and we are halfway to Trumptopia.

But it will be a beautiful Trumptopia, the best, most fantastic Trumptopia we've ever had!

tjg_marantz · Post by **tjg_marantz** » Sat Jul 09, 2016 7:47 am

It'll be the one you deserve.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Sat Jul 09, 2016 8:55 am

Trump and Gingrich: The Adultry Party. If they win, their first act will be to bring back jus primae noctis.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Sat Jul 09, 2016 8:40 pm

Rip wrote:Newt would be perfect IMHO.

Throw in Bolton for Secretary of State and we are halfway to Trumptopia.

Roose or Ramsay?

Rip · Post by **Rip** » Sat Jul 09, 2016 9:07 pm

Holman wrote:
Rip wrote:Newt would be perfect IMHO.

Throw in Bolton for Secretary of State and we are halfway to Trumptopia.
Roose or Ramsay?

Max Peck · Post by **Max Peck** » Sat Jul 09, 2016 10:45 pm

That may be the Bolton that you want, but he isn't the Bolton that you need.

tgb · Post by **tgb** » Sun Jul 10, 2016 8:33 am

There is only one Bolton who matters.

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » Sun Jul 10, 2016 10:53 am

RLMullen · Post by **RLMullen** » Mon Jul 11, 2016 6:21 am

Lock the thread!

KKBlue · Post by **KKBlue** » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:53 am

Max Peck · Post by **Max Peck** » Mon Jul 11, 2016 8:54 am

Leadership!

(Just kidding -- it's actually !Leadership)

Grifman · Post by **Grifman** » Mon Jul 11, 2016 9:55 am

Trump defends parts of Constitution that don't exist:

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/08/politics/ ... ion-gaffe/

"I wasn't particularly impressed," Sanford told reporters after Thursday's meeting at an event. "I think it was the normal stream of consciousness that's long on hyperbole and short on facts. At one point there was mentioned -- somebody asked about, you know, Article I powers and what would you do to protect them and you know, I think his response was 'I want to protect Article I, Article II, Article XII -- go down the list.' As we both know there is no Article XII."

Trump's answer came in response to a question from a House Republican about whether Trump as president would defend the prerogatives of Congress that are laid out in Article I of the Constitution. The issue is highly important to lawmakers who are frustrated by the powers of the presidency, which are defined in Article II of the Constitution but that have expanded in recent years by the increased use of executive authority.

There are a total of just seven articles to the Constitution although there are many more amendments to the founding document, which could be what Trump was referring to accidentally.
When Trump made his comments "a number of people looked around at each other at that point with a little bit of a quizzical or curious eye," Sanford told CNN Friday.

Then again, maybe he has plans for expansion, beautiful wonderful plans.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Mon Jul 11, 2016 10:12 am

Maybe he plans on defending the 12th amendment. I'm sure he's all about that electoral college.

Oh, and if you look upthread, Moliere beat you to it.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Tue Jul 12, 2016 9:16 am

Obama: Our country isn't as divided as some would have us believe. <inserts actual facts>

Trump: OUR COUNTRY IS DIVIDED AS HELL!

Can we get Obama to run again and just toss out that pesky 22nd Amendment? Please?

Kurth · Post by **Kurth** » Tue Jul 12, 2016 12:05 pm

hepcat wrote:Can we get Obama to run again and just toss out that pesky 22nd Amendment? Please?

Wait! Isn't that one of the ones The Donald loves???

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Tue Jul 12, 2016 12:49 pm

No, you're thinking of the 43rd Amendment.

Scraper · Post by **Scraper** » Tue Jul 12, 2016 1:26 pm

hepcat wrote:No, you're thinking of the 43rd Amendment.

I thought he just loved articles 1 through 12?

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Tue Jul 12, 2016 1:50 pm

Only if those articles say something nice about him. If not, they get their press passes taken away!

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Wed Jul 13, 2016 5:00 pm

Just a reminder that Donald Trump's campaign is still a garbage fire.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Wed Jul 13, 2016 5:23 pm

The worst news I've seen this week is Trump's response to Dallas and the most recent BLM marches.

At an Indiana rally, he said this:

Donald Trump wrote:“The other night you had 11 cities potentially in a blow-up stage. Marches all over the United States—and tough marches. Anger. Hatred. Hatred! Started by a maniac! And some people ask for a moment of silence for him. For the killer!”

There is no evidence whatsoever that anyone has called for a "moment of silence" for the killer (or at least no one involved with these protests). But notice the main point, which is how he's characterizing the BLM protests as support for the Dallas shooter. It's revolting.

Trump's campaign requires the specter of race war to succeed. We're going to be getting more of this poison from him.

Kurth · Post by **Kurth** » Wed Jul 13, 2016 7:01 pm

El Guapo wrote:Just a reminder that Donald Trump's campaign is still a garbage fire.

I'm not sure whether I was more amused by:

n other garbage-fire news, the Trump campaign continues to barely exist. Sam Stein and Elise Foley attempted to contact the Trump campaign in all 50 states:

A few of the state operations had no websites or no numbers listed. Many of the other numbers didn’t work. When we left voicemails, we didn’t get callbacks.
On only six occasions did someone actually answer the phone. And in several of those instances, the person who picked up explained that a physical office would be opened up only after the convention.

or alarmed by:

Also, Breitbart News reports that “Bikers for Trump” will patrol the streets in Cleveland during the Republican convention. “Bikers for Trump aren’t going to Cleveland looking to cause trouble,” the right-wing site assures readers, “but will be on hand to counter thousands of professional leftwing agitators planning to disrupt the Republican nominating convention.” So relax — there’s no way a riled-up paramilitary gathering of rabid bikers could react in any way that reinforces middle America's concerns about the Republican nominee.

Crazy times we live in.

And sad, because +1 to Holman's post above. Divisive vitriol it to the Trump campaign what oil is to a combustion engine.