The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse

[TheMix]

Well, it's actually an obscure TV show reference. I have never read the comics, but I've been watching JJ recently.

[Max Peck]

Or do they only have limited access to Kilgrave?

+1 for obscure comic book reference!

Obscure comic book, or timely Netflix reference...


Edit: Oops, I didn't see the next page and was 'grimnurred by TheMix himself.

[TheMix]

You get a pass. You added the gif.

[Max Peck]

Low-rated CNN interviews Trump-bashing GOP loser who should go back to Mexico. Disgusting!

Former Bush administration official Carlos Gutierrez says he will be voting for Hillary Clinton, calling Donald Trump's economic policies a "disaster." The former commerce secretary under President George W. Bush said he looked at the "totality" of the choice between the two candidates and decided on Clinton. "I have one resume here for Donald Trump, I have one resume here for Hillary Clinton, and I've chosen this resume," Gutierrez said, indicating Clinton. "I think this person, Hillary Clinton, is the best for the country. I'm not thinking about (it as) a Republican, I'm thinking about (it as) a US citizen. I think at some point, you have to put the party aside and say what's best for the country? I don't want to live in a society that I think Donald Trump will create."
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Gutierrez added: "I haven't heard an economic concept come out of Trump's mouth except for protectionism and lower taxes. If you put those two together, that is a recipe for disaster."

[Moliere]

Sassy Trump

[tjg_marantz]

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/08/15/us ... 7bh7iIHHaY
Retweeted by Corey Lewandowski. Awesome.

[Zarathud]

Talk about pay to play. I expect Trump's advisor will also choose not to disclose his tax returns.

[ydejin]

Another George W. Bush Cabinet Member endorses Clinton. Excerpts from an interview with Carlos Gutierrez, Secretary of Commerce in the Bush Administration:

I don't want to go back fifty years. I don't want to see kids being bullied at school because they have a Spanish last name. I don't want to have people talking about "My African American". I don't want people making fun of handicapped people.

I think a Donald Trump Presidency, in spite of the fact that he's a Republican, is dangerous. I think it's time to think about the Country over Party.

David Duke is running for congress in Louisiana. And he's under Trump's platform. Is that a trend, are we going to see more of that. Is that the kind of society we're going to be. Are we going to go back fifty years. I don't want to go back fifty years.

I think Hillary Clinton is the best for the country ... I'm not thinking about a Republican, I'm thinking about a US Citizen. I think at some point you have to put the party aside and say what's best for the country. I don't want to live in a society that I think Donald Trump will create.

I actually think Hillary Clinton has the experience, she’s been around, she knows how the system works. I think she’d make a darn good president.

[GreenGoo]

Trump's lashing out at the media again. With a little luck we're going to see a narcissistic billionaire conman self destruct on the national stage.

Fingers crossed.

I don't think a nervous breakdown is out of reach.

It seems to me that having people actually challenge him on the random nonsense he says combined with very public fact checking that repeatedly shows him for the liar he is, but most importantly failing, has put enormous strain on his psyche.

It couldn't happen to a better "person".

[RunningMn9]

Retweeted by Corey Lewandowski. Awesome.

[tgb]

You know all those people who said they supported Der Drumpfster because he "wasn't a politician"?

Oops.

[Isgrimnur]

Even when the supporters admit that he's screwing up, it's still partially the other side's fault.

For Frank Steele, a Vietnam veteran in North Carolina who voted for Trump in the primary because the businessman didn’t talk down to the working class, the disappointment was most acute when Trump attacked the family of a fallen U.S. soldier after the father, Khizr Khan, spoke at the Democratic National Convention.

“He was baited, and he rose to the bait,” said Steele, 69, as he waited in line for Trump’s rally in this port city last week. “That’s his personality. He was wrong. You don’t bad-mouth somebody that’s lost a son.”
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In interviews, loyal Trump backers agree that the system seems rigged against their candidate. And they think the media is treating him unfairly. But some also say Trump increasingly bears some of the blame for tilting the odds even more against him.

“I just wish he would quit it,” said Bash, the former machinist who lives in Zanesville, Ohio. “I know the Democrats are baiting him. They are baiting him bad and getting him to say things.”

And then, of course, there's the cognitive dissonance:

Far ahead of Steele in line that day were 69-year-old Linda Barnhill
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Barnhill said she has seen her community turn into “a ghost town” as the area paper mill scaled back its operations and a number of textile mills moved overseas. She thinks Trump “can talk to people like us” in a way that Clinton cannot because “he hires people like us to work for him.”

[LordMortis]

Even when the supporters admit that he's screwing up, it's still partially the other side's fault.

For Frank Steele, a Vietnam veteran in North Carolina who voted for Trump in the primary because the businessman didn’t talk down to the working class, the disappointment was most acute when Trump attacked the family of a fallen U.S. soldier after the father, Khizr Khan, spoke at the Democratic National Convention.

“He was baited, and he rose to the bait,” said Steele, 69, as he waited in line for Trump’s rally in this port city last week. “That’s his personality. He was wrong. You don’t bad-mouth somebody that’s lost a son.”
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In interviews, loyal Trump backers agree that the system seems rigged against their candidate. And they think the media is treating him unfairly. But some also say Trump increasingly bears some of the blame for tilting the odds even more against him.

“I just wish he would quit it,” said Bash, the former machinist who lives in Zanesville, Ohio. “I know the Democrats are baiting him. They are baiting him bad and getting him to say things.”

I don't think that's eye rolley. I agree with that sentiment. It doesn't blame the democrats, it actually a hedge on "he speaks his mind" into the realm of "he doesn't fully understand that sometimes it good to shut up" or possibly simply the recognition that "sometimes he's wrong." This is a good thing, IMO. It's a symptom that them can be reachable.

[Isgrimnur]

Perhaps my interpretation of their statements is incorrect, but, to me, it smacks of a toddler's, "they made him do it," logic. It's not his fault that those mean old Democrats made him say those things. Or, I guess in today's vernacular, that they 'triggered' him.

But again, I could be wrong.

[GreenGoo]

Far ahead of Steele in line that day were 69-year-old Linda Barnhill
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Barnhill said she has seen her community turn into “a ghost town” as the area paper mill scaled back its operations and a number of textile mills moved overseas. She thinks Trump “can talk to people like us” in a way that Clinton cannot because “he hires people like us to work for him.”

If we put aside the fact that ceo's aren't great at talking to the people who do the actual work, she's sort of right. He does hire people like them. He just doesn't like paying them after the work is done.

[Isgrimnur]

I'm more likely to believe that he hasn't sat in an interview with a prospective hourly employee in decades.

He hires people to hire people to hire people to hire people to work for him.

Execs to dept heads to managers to hire employees. At minimum.

[stessier]

Has this been mentioned yet? Trump plans to roll out a policy requiring an ideological test before gaining entry to the US.

Donald Trump on Monday will call for a new ideological test for admission to the United States, vetting applicants on their stance on issues like religious freedom, gender equality and gay rights. The policy would represent a significant shift in how the U.S. manages entry into the country.

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"Mr. Trump's speech will explain that while we can't choose our friends, we must always recognize our enemies," Trump senior policy adviser Stephen Miller said.

Although I guess I really shouldn't be.

[GreenGoo]

I'm more likely to believe that he hasn't sat in an interview with a prospective hourly employee in decades.

He hires people to hire people to hire people to hire people to work for him.

Execs to dept heads to managers to hire employees. At minimum.

That goes without saying. Or should, quoted person notwithstanding. Still, he's a bit of a micromanager, especially when things aren't going well, so he's more likely to stick his nose in areas that most ceo's aren't going to bother.

[Defiant]

Has this been mentioned yet? Trump plans to roll out a policy requiring an ideological test before gaining entry to the US.

Donald Trump on Monday will call for a new ideological test for admission to the United States, vetting applicants on their stance on issues like religious freedom, gender equality and gay rights. The policy would represent a significant shift in how the U.S. manages entry into the country.

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"Mr. Trump's speech will explain that while we can't choose our friends, we must always recognize our enemies," Trump senior policy adviser Stephen Miller said.

Although I guess I really shouldn't be.

I think the question is, would Trump pass a test on issues like gender equality and gay rights?

[TheMix]

Wait...

...the disappointment was most acute when Trump attacked the family of a fallen U.S. soldier after the father, Khizr Khan, spoke at the Democratic National Convention.

“He was baited, and he rose to the bait,” said Steele...

"Baited"? That's like saying that having the DNC was baiting him. The Democrats should have not held their convention. The problem is not that there was a DNC, nor that there were speakers, nor that some of them said unflattering things about Drumpf. The problem is that he doesn't know how not to respond. Pretty sure the RNC said some unflattering things about Hillary. But she managed to avoid responding in ways that made her look bad. Shifting the blame is puppies.

[Zarathud]

It's also unpresidential.

[TheMix]

It's also unpresidential.

HA! You are very correct. Sadly, that isn't even something that registers with me any more. I've become so used to it that I don't even notice. I'd be more likely to notice if he did something that was presidential.

[GreenGoo]

"Baited"? That's like saying that having the DNC was baiting him.

As much as I hate coming even into the vicinity of defending orangey McCombover, the pocket constitution father directly called Trump out (rightly, imo). That's the "baiting" they are referring to. Some of his comments were directly addressed to Drumpf.

[Max Peck]

Far ahead of Steele in line that day were 69-year-old Linda Barnhill
...
Barnhill said she has seen her community turn into “a ghost town” as the area paper mill scaled back its operations and a number of textile mills moved overseas. She thinks Trump “can talk to people like us” in a way that Clinton cannot because “he hires people like us to work for him.”

He does hire people like them.

No he doesn't -- he hires immigrants on the cheap and ships his manufacturing jobs to China.

[GreenGoo]

He builds golf courses and buildings. How is he shipping those to china?

[Max Peck]

He builds golf courses and buildings. How is he shipping those to china?

He sells Trump brand merchandise too. That's why Macy's was one of the companies that cut their ties (hyuck) with him back when he started in with the crazy at the beginning of the primaries.

[Archinerd]

He builds golf courses and buildings. How is he shipping those to china?

Probably the long way around. They won't fit through the Panama Canal and are too wide for rail.

[GreenGoo]

He builds golf courses and buildings. How is he shipping those to china?

He sells Trump brand merchandise too. That's why Macy's was one of the companies that cut their ties (hyuck) with him back when he started in with the crazy at the beginning of the primaries.

K. Maybe I should have said he makes money building golf courses and buildings, and on those he hires (at least some) Americans.

[Max Peck]

He builds golf courses and buildings. How is he shipping those to china?

He sells Trump brand merchandise too. That's why Macy's was one of the companies that cut their ties (hyuck) with him back when he started in with the crazy at the beginning of the primaries.

K. Maybe I should have said he makes money building golf courses and buildings, and on those he hires (at least some) Americans.

And some, I assume, are Americans. If they're willing to work cheap. Otherwise...

[GreenGoo]

Dude. There is plenty of information all over the internet that show he hires American contractors to build stuff.

Where are you going with this?

[Isgrimnur]

There's plenty of stuff to tar him with other than that the contractors and subcontractors may have illegals on their staff. It's not a Trump problem.

Unauthorized immigrants made up 5.1% of the nation’s labor force in 2012, numbering 8.1 million who were working or looking for work, according to previously published Pew Research estimates (Passel and Cohn, 2014). But as this new analysis shows, they account for a far higher share of the total workforce in specific jobs, notably farming (26%), cleaning and maintenance (17%), and construction (14%).

[TheMix]

"Baited"? That's like saying that having the DNC was baiting him.

As much as I hate coming even into the vicinity of defending orangey McCombover, the pocket constitution father directly called Trump out (rightly, imo). That's the "baiting" they are referring to. Some of his comments were directly addressed to Drumpf.

I figured maybe there was something like that. I actually dialed back what I wrote. I didn't watch either of the conventions.

But my point was that there was a lot of things said about him. And most of it was negative. Considering what things were said about Hillary at the RNC, it seems pretty silly to think that there would be nothing bad said. I also think it's silly to call it baiting. It's mud slinging. It's business as usual. Both sides say negative things. And many of those things are direct, personal attacks. It is only "baiting" because Drumpf doesn't know how to ignore it.

I guess my point was that the guy they quoted made it sound like this was something special that was done. Rather than acknowledging that both sides do it, but his candidate isn't able to ignore it.

[tgb]

Has this been mentioned yet? Trump plans to roll out a policy requiring an ideological test before gaining entry to the US.

Donald Trump on Monday will call for a new ideological test for admission to the United States, vetting applicants on their stance on issues like religious freedom, gender equality and gay rights. The policy would represent a significant shift in how the U.S. manages entry into the country.

...
"Mr. Trump's speech will explain that while we can't choose our friends, we must always recognize our enemies," Trump senior policy adviser Stephen Miller said.

Although I guess I really shouldn't be.

Before testing people wanting to come in, shouldn't those questions determine who we should kick out?

[GreenGoo]

If only there was some way to give an answer that would not necessarily reflect your own opinion, but those that the tester is looking for. But that's science fiction.

[Isgrimnur]

"Describe in single words only the good things that come into your mind about... your mother."

[LordMortis]

Perhaps my interpretation of their statements is incorrect, but, to me, it smacks of a toddler's, "they made him do it," logic. It's not his fault that those mean old Democrats made him say those things. Or, I guess in today's vernacular, that they 'triggered' him.

But again, I could be wrong.

I take it all back. It turns out your read was wholly accurate. I read it all as a collective moment of coming together to talk but it's all just poorly elocuted parroting of the latest in Fox News.

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/08/13/ ... tupid.html

How sad.

[hentzau]

Man, some of the replies in this thread make me laugh.

[Isgrimnur]

Perhaps my interpretation of their statements is incorrect, but, to me, it smacks of a toddler's, "they made him do it," logic. It's not his fault that those mean old Democrats made him say those things. Or, I guess in today's vernacular, that they 'triggered' him.

But again, I could be wrong.

I take it all back. It turns out your read was wholly accurate. I read it all as a collective moment of coming together to talk but it's all just poorly elocuted parroting of the latest in Fox News.

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/08/13/ ... tupid.html

How sad.

I feel bad that reality keeps finding new ways to let you down.

[GreenGoo]

I'm finding lately that LM's interpretation of things is not matching my own, which is causing me to re-evaluate my interpretation. Surprising no one, upon further review, it is always LM who is wrong.

[Isgrimnur]