The Hillary Clinton thread

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Tue Sep 20, 2016 7:38 am

Or maybe he realizes that even with the email issues, she's still far better a candidate than a Russian Manchurian Candidate.

YellowKing · Post by **YellowKing** » Tue Sep 20, 2016 8:10 am

Some of the pro-Trumpers remind me of Dustin Hoffman in Rain Man. "Email server, definitely email server. Benghazi. Email server and Benghazi." Lest you think I'm making fun of the disabled, I'm only copying from the best.

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Tue Sep 20, 2016 8:42 am

em2nought wrote:
Defiant wrote:George H.W. Bush to vote for Hillary
An ex CIA director should certainly know better than to share a secret with a democrat. I mean just look at the prime example who thinks "C" on a file folder stands for cookie.

What makes you think it was a secret?

Rip · Post by **Rip** » Tue Sep 20, 2016 12:30 pm

GreenGoo wrote:
em2nought wrote:
Defiant wrote:George H.W. Bush to vote for Hillary
An ex CIA director should certainly know better than to share a secret with a democrat. I mean just look at the prime example who thinks "C" on a file folder stands for cookie.
What makes you think it was a secret?

It isn't secret. It is a fabrication.

Political hack doing what political hacks do, make shit up.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Tue Sep 20, 2016 12:59 pm

It's like Trump saying he has more than 1 percent of black or hispanic votes.

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Tue Sep 20, 2016 1:08 pm

Rip wrote: Political hack doing what political hacks do, make shit up.

So...what makes you think it's a lie? Your gut?

Rip · Post by **Rip** » Tue Sep 20, 2016 3:39 pm

GreenGoo wrote:
Rip wrote: Political hack doing what political hacks do, make shit up.
So...what makes you think it's a lie? Your gut?

I don't think it, I know it.

However not being a Kennedy I don't betray things I am told in private.

The real story is he told her he wasn't voting for Trump so she assumed he would vote for Clinton. She knew he didn't want to acknowledge that publicly but being the conniving cunt she is, she used it to get some political mileage. Perfect example of why these bipartisan things never work out. Someone eventually tries to get political despite saying otherwise.

But sources with knowledge of the conversation told CNN they were surprised and disappointed that she had publicly shared a private conversation with the former president.

Kennedy Townsend declined to comment through a spokesman at the Rock Creek Group, where she works as managing director. She later took down the Facebook post.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/20/politics/ ... y-clinton/

geezer · Post by **geezer** » Tue Sep 20, 2016 3:42 pm

Rip wrote:
GreenGoo wrote:
Rip wrote: Political hack doing what political hacks do, make shit up.
So...what makes you think it's a lie? Your gut?
I don't think it, I know it.

However not being a Kennedy I don't betray things I am told in private.

The real story is he told her he wasn't voting for Trump so she assumed he would vote for Clinton. She knew he didn't want to acknowledge that publicly but being the conniving cunt she is, she used it to get some political mileage. Perfect example of why these bipartisan things never work out. Someone eventually tries to get political despite saying otherwise.

Barbara tell me otherwise, though she probably wishes Kate hadn't mentioned it...

Sepiche · Post by **Sepiche** » Tue Sep 20, 2016 3:55 pm

Rip wrote:conniving cunt

Stay classy Rip.

Grifman · Post by **Grifman** » Tue Sep 20, 2016 4:04 pm

Sepiche wrote:
Rip wrote:conniving cunt
Stay classy Rip.

Just a question. How is this acceptable conduct on this forum? Why is misogyny more acceptable than racism?

Rip · Post by **Rip** » Tue Sep 20, 2016 4:09 pm

Sepiche wrote:
Rip wrote:conniving cunt
Stay classy Rip.

It fits. What would you call someone that takes a noble bipartisan event and uses it to dig up some half-baked political dirt to go blab on facebook to impress their "friends"?

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Tue Sep 20, 2016 4:10 pm

Rip wrote:
GreenGoo wrote:
Rip wrote: Political hack doing what political hacks do, make shit up.
So...what makes you think it's a lie? Your gut?
I don't think it, I know it.

No, you don't. That's the entire point.

You know a lot of true things that aren't true. Or might be true if only there were facts to back it up.

When I've had time I've been looking for corroboration all afternoon. last I heard Bush Spokesman said "I'll get back to you".

Rip · Post by **Rip** » Tue Sep 20, 2016 4:14 pm

GreenGoo wrote:
Rip wrote:
GreenGoo wrote:
Rip wrote: Political hack doing what political hacks do, make shit up.
So...what makes you think it's a lie? Your gut?
I don't think it, I know it.
No, you don't. That's the entire point.

You know a lot of true things that aren't true. Or might be true.

When I've had time I've been looking for corroboration all afternoon. last I heard Bush Spokesman said "I'll get back to you".

No, he said that he feels his vote is personal and has no plans to disclose who he is voting for publicly.

That is how real presidents respond.

Grifman · Post by **Grifman** » Tue Sep 20, 2016 4:17 pm

Rip wrote:
Sepiche wrote:
Rip wrote:conniving cunt
Stay classy Rip.
It fits. What would you call someone that takes a noble bipartisan event and uses it to dig up some half-baked political dirt to go blab on facebook to impress their "friends"?

I agree that they shouldn't have done this but being a woman has nothing to do with it, any more than if they had been African-American, that would have had something to do with it. The term you used is, IMO, no different than using the term n*****.

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Tue Sep 20, 2016 4:18 pm

Rip wrote:
Sepiche wrote:
Rip wrote:conniving cunt
Stay classy Rip.
It fits. What would you call someone that takes a noble bipartisan event and uses it to dig up some half-baked political dirt to go blab on facebook to impress their "friends"?

I'd call a former Republican president telling a democrat that he won't be voting for his Party's candidate and expecting it not to be news, a dumbass. Did she do the secret handshake first? Then I could see the betrayal.

A former president abandoning his party at election? That's news.

I don't know what their relationship is/was, but if he didn't want it known, he should have kept it to himself.

There are 2 scenarios here.

a) they have a relationship where personal conversations are understood to be private, in which case she betrayed his trust. That's between the two of them. Neither you nor I have any input on how they deal with it.

b) They didn't have that kind of relationship, in which case wtf did Bush tell her? This rests (almost) entirely on him.

Rip · Post by **Rip** » Tue Sep 20, 2016 4:19 pm

Grifman wrote:
Rip wrote:
Sepiche wrote:
Rip wrote:conniving cunt
Stay classy Rip.
It fits. What would you call someone that takes a noble bipartisan event and uses it to dig up some half-baked political dirt to go blab on facebook to impress their "friends"?
I agree that they shouldn't have done this but being a woman has nothing to do with it, any more than if they had been African-American, that would have had something to do with it. The term you used is, IMO, no different than using the term n*****.

Give me a break, if I call Obama a dick is that being sexist as well?

I don't do PC and SJWs can lick my balls.

Now I am being sexist against myself......

Grifman · Post by **Grifman** » Tue Sep 20, 2016 4:19 pm

Rip wrote:
Sepiche wrote:
Rip wrote:conniving cunt
Stay classy Rip.
It fits.

"Conniving", yes. The other word was totally uncalled for.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Tue Sep 20, 2016 4:21 pm

Grifman wrote:
Sepiche wrote:
Rip wrote:conniving cunt
Stay classy Rip.
Just a question. How is this acceptable conduct on this forum? Why is misogyny more acceptable than racism?

Haven't you heard? In Trump's America, only -accusations- of racism, sexism, xenophobia, homophobia, etc are unacceptable.

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Tue Sep 20, 2016 4:22 pm

Rip wrote: Now I am being sexist against myself......

Er...no you're not. Has anyone actually explained sexism to you? Do you need a seminar?

Grifman · Post by **Grifman** » Tue Sep 20, 2016 4:22 pm

Rip wrote:Give me a break, if I call Obama a dick is that being sexist as well?

The term "dick" has come to mean someone acting as a jerk. I'm not aware of the other word having any meaning other than a derogatory word for a woman.

I don't do PC and SJWs can lick my balls.

Excuses, excuses. Calling you out on the use is this term is not PC, because I'm one of the least PC people out here. You're merely trying to cut off discussion by labeling it as PC.

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Tue Sep 20, 2016 4:22 pm

Holman wrote:
Grifman wrote:
Sepiche wrote:
Rip wrote:conniving cunt
Stay classy Rip.
Just a question. How is this acceptable conduct on this forum? Why is misogyny more acceptable than racism?
Haven't you heard? In Trump's America, only -accusations- of racism, sexism, xenophobia, homophobia, etc are unacceptable.

You're worser than hitler.

Grifman · Post by **Grifman** » Tue Sep 20, 2016 4:24 pm

Holman wrote:
Grifman wrote:
Sepiche wrote:
Rip wrote:conniving cunt
Stay classy Rip.
Just a question. How is this acceptable conduct on this forum? Why is misogyny more acceptable than racism?
Haven't you heard? In Trump's America, only -accusations- of racism, sexism, xenophobia, homophobia, etc are unacceptable.

I'm really not discussing Trump's America though. I'm asking an honest question about what is appropriate conduct on this forum. If Rip can use his term, can I use n****?

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Tue Sep 20, 2016 4:27 pm

How about "f*gg*t"?

that's about all I'm gonna write on this.

SJW away!

*whoosh*

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Tue Sep 20, 2016 4:41 pm

Grifman wrote:
Holman wrote:
Grifman wrote:
Sepiche wrote:
Rip wrote:conniving cunt
Stay classy Rip.
Just a question. How is this acceptable conduct on this forum? Why is misogyny more acceptable than racism?
Haven't you heard? In Trump's America, only -accusations- of racism, sexism, xenophobia, homophobia, etc are unacceptable.
I'm really not discussing Trump's America though. I'm asking an honest question about what is appropriate conduct on this forum. If Rip can use his term, can I use n****?

In all seriousness, some terms should not be acceptable on the forum, including those that just came up.

It's not PC and it's not thought police. It's just basic decency to avoid obviously and exclusively insulting and derogatory terms.

YellowKing · Post by **YellowKing** » Tue Sep 20, 2016 4:45 pm

(CNN)Former President George H.W. Bush told a room of roughly 40 people Monday that he would vote for Hillary Clinton in November, according to sources close to Bush -- an extraordinary rebuke of his own party's nominee.

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Tue Sep 20, 2016 4:49 pm

Lies, damn lies, and statistics.

I'm not sure which one Bush is using but I don't think, I know, he's using one of them.

I actually don't care who he votes for, I'm just glad he recognizes a nightmare when he sees one.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Tue Sep 20, 2016 5:00 pm

I've come to learn that "not being PC" means you can't be criticized for anything you say. I'm all for free speech, myself. But I do have to wonder what would happen if those who hide behind that term were to wake up as African American women tomorrow.

Max Peck · Post by **Max Peck** » Tue Sep 20, 2016 5:03 pm

Rip wrote:Now I am being sexist against myself......

Nah, you're just being a proud basket case.

The Meal · Post by **The Meal** » Tue Sep 20, 2016 6:45 pm

Rip wrote:conniving cunt

Rip wrote:I don't do PC and SJWs can lick my balls.

Casually throwing around such terms in public is not back-slappingly rewardable behavior. There's a different word for that (see post title).

It also does more to mute your message than it does to develop topical dialog. But who's here for the topical dialog any more?

Yay, OO R&P (2016). RIP.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Tue Sep 20, 2016 7:21 pm

I see what you did there.

msteelers · Post by **msteelers** » Tue Sep 20, 2016 7:43 pm

I'm with Grifman. Some words shouldn't be casually used, and I'm glad he called it out for what it was.

Chrisoc13 · Post by **Chrisoc13** » Tue Sep 20, 2016 8:18 pm

I agree. I don't mind rips differences even when it borders on trolling and I actually appreciate a completely different point of view than most people have here, but that's a very offensive term and using terms like that make this place an environment that is not inviting. As such I would hope we would all refrain from using words of that nature.

Smutly · Post by **Smutly** » Tue Sep 20, 2016 8:31 pm

Sepiche wrote:
Rip wrote:conniving cunt
Stay classy Rip.

If the vagina fits.

Smutly · Post by **Smutly** » Tue Sep 20, 2016 8:34 pm

Holman wrote:
Grifman wrote:
Holman wrote:
Grifman wrote:
Sepiche wrote:
Rip wrote:conniving cunt
Stay classy Rip.
Just a question. How is this acceptable conduct on this forum? Why is misogyny more acceptable than racism?
Haven't you heard? In Trump's America, only -accusations- of racism, sexism, xenophobia, homophobia, etc are unacceptable.
I'm really not discussing Trump's America though. I'm asking an honest question about what is appropriate conduct on this forum. If Rip can use his term, can I use n****?
In all seriousness, some terms should not be acceptable on the forum, including those that just came up.

It's not PC and it's not thought police. It's just basic decency to avoid obviously and exclusively insulting and derogatory terms.

Well, if OO should write a policy to take away Freedom of Speech then it would be appropriate in R&P. You must be a Trump supporter.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Tue Sep 20, 2016 8:36 pm

Smutly wrote:
Sepiche wrote:
Rip wrote:conniving cunt
Stay classy Rip.
If the vagina fits.

Ah. There's that high ground you keep claiming.

Smutly · Post by **Smutly** » Tue Sep 20, 2016 8:44 pm

Holman wrote:
Smutly wrote:
Sepiche wrote:
Rip wrote:conniving cunt
Stay classy Rip.
If the vagina fits.
Ah. There's that high ground you keep claiming.

It's intuitively obvious to the most casual of observers that the vagina fits. Am I allowed to say vagina?

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Tue Sep 20, 2016 8:48 pm

Smutly wrote:
Holman wrote:
Smutly wrote:
Sepiche wrote:
Rip wrote:conniving cunt
Stay classy Rip.
If the vagina fits.
Ah. There's that high ground you keep claiming.
It's intuitively obvious to the most casual of observers that the vagina fits. Am I allowed to say vagina?

When it's very obviously used as a coy echo of "cunt," it certainly indicates something about you.

Disapproval isn't the same as censorship, you know. You and Rip needn't be paranoid, just less obnoxious.

Alefroth · Post by **Alefroth** » Tue Sep 20, 2016 8:51 pm

Smutly wrote: It's intuitively obvious to the most casual of observers that the vagina fits.

No, it really isn't. Whatever point you are making is beyond me.

Smutly wrote:Am I allowed to say vagina?

No one stopped Rip. Only your reputation is at stake.

Smutly · Post by **Smutly** » Tue Sep 20, 2016 8:53 pm

So, Hillary just postponed a local fundraiser in North Carolina "without reason". This was after her hideous interview where her eyes got all cockeyed making me sick to my stomach. Her left eye was not tracking with her right eye -- and it was very disturbing. If she does that shit during the debates she will lose for sure. Trump said on Twitter: "Hillary Clinton is taking the day off again, she needs the rest. Sleep well Hillary -- see you at the debate!"

Rip · Post by **Rip** » Tue Sep 20, 2016 8:54 pm

Grifman wrote:
Rip wrote:Give me a break, if I call Obama a dick is that being sexist as well?
The term "dick" has come to mean someone acting as a jerk. I'm not aware of the other word having any meaning other than a derogatory word for a woman.

I don't do PC and SJWs can lick my balls.
Excuses, excuses. Calling you out on the use is this term is not PC, because I'm one of the least PC people out here. You're merely trying to cut off discussion by labeling it as PC.

No it isn't I call my brother a little cunt all the time.