The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse

[Isgrimnur]

And you know how much people love it when you tell them that you know their motivations better than they do.

[Smoove_B]

I need to be honest, if Trump could help me see embedded Tweets on OO, I might vote for him. You have no idea how f'ing difficult this site has become to read in some threads because of it.

[hepcat]

Kids today and their newfangled Tweeter, motor scooters and Neil Sedaka.

[Captain Caveman]

All the racism screaming does is push people more firmly into supporting Trump. The number of people that think they are racist is negligible.

Sure, but the "racism screaming" isn't necessarily aimed at those voters. It's aimed at mobilizing non-white voters, and to a lesser degree well-educated whites, which I think the Clinton campaign correctly has concluded will determine the election.

Pointing out the racism of the Trump campaign is partly a cynical ploy to energize supporters, and does have the negative effect of further polarizing the electorate along racial lines, but it also has the benefit of being true. His campaign is qualitatively different than that of Romney or McCain, and I think it's important to make clear the nasty white nationalist undercurrent characterizing his campaign.

[Holman]

KNEEL BEFORE ZOD!

After the humiliation of President Barack Obama raking him over the coals for pushing birther conspiracy theories, a top surrogate for Donald Trump said he will have his “ultimate revenge” when all of his critics have to “bow down” to him in the White House.

In a clip previewing an upcoming special from PBS Frontline, published online Thursday, Omarosa Manigault spoke about the abject humiliation Trump felt after Obama did an extended bit about the real estate mogul at the 2011 White House Correspondents Dinner.

“Every critic, every detractor, will have to bow down to president Trump,” Manigault said. “It’s everyone who’s ever doubted Donald, who ever disagreed, who ever challenged him. It is the ultimate revenge to become the most powerful man in the universe.”

Roger Stone, a longtime Trump confidant with loose ties to the campaign, called the 2011 event “the night that [Trump] resolved to run for president.”

[El Guapo]

What if we all agreed to not make fun of him again if he drops out of the race? I feel like he would take that deal.

[Smoove_B]

What if we all agreed to not make fun of him again if he drops out of the race? I feel like he would take that deal.

You might as well suggest the world completely ignores the Kardashians for a 24 hour period. It's not possible.

[YellowKing]

This one's for Yellowking:

Thanks for reminding me to request my early voting ballot!

[LordMortis]

driveby



I'm not normally into political bumpersticker posts but this is rather poignant.

/driveby

[Moliere]

Trump Rape Accuser to Refile Suit in New York

A lawsuit filed by an anonymous plaintiff accusing Donald Trump of raping a teenager in the 1990's and threatening to kill her family, will be re-filed with an additional witness on board, the woman's attorney revealed Thursday.

Thomas Meagher, attorney for the Jane Doe plaintiff said they plan to re-file the complaint, accompanied by a new witness afidavit, as soon as the end of next week.
The original lawsuit was voluntarily dismissed on September 16th.

The June 20, 2016, complaint accused the Republican presidential nominee and billionaire Jeffrey Epstein of rape, sexual misconduct, criminal sexual acts, sexual abuse, forcible touching, assault, battery, intentional and reckless infliction of emotional distress, duress, false imprisonment, and defamation.

[El Guapo]

What if we all agreed to not make fun of him again if he drops out of the race? I feel like he would take that deal.

You might as well suggest the world completely ignores the Kardashians for a 24 hour period. It's not possible.

It wouldn't be easy, but if it could get Trump to go away, I feel like we could band together and get it done.

[Max Peck]

Palmer Luckey: The Facebook Near-Billionaire Secretly Funding Trump’s Meme Machine

A Silicon Valley titan is putting money behind an unofficial Donald Trump group dedicated to “shitposting” and circulating internet memes maligning Hillary Clinton.

Oculus founder Palmer Luckey financially backed a pro-Trump political organization called Nimble America, a self-described “social welfare 501(c)4 non-profit” in support of the Republican nominee.

Luckey sold his virtual reality company Oculus to Facebook for $2 billion in 2014, and Forbes estimates his current net worth to be $700 million. The 24-year-old told The Daily Beast that he had used the pseudonym “NimbleRichMan” on Reddit with a password given to him by the organization’s founders.

Nimble America says it’s dedicated to proving that “shitposting is powerful and meme magic is real,” according to the company’s introductory statement, and has taken credit for a billboard its founders say was posted outside of Pittsburgh with a cartoonishly large image of Clinton’s face alongside the words “Too Big to Jail.”

“We conquered Reddit and drive narrative on social media, conquered the [mainstream media], now it’s time to get our most delicious memes in front of Americans whether they like it or not,” a representative for the group wrote in an introductory post on Reddit.

Potential donors from Donald Trump’s biggest online community—Reddit’s r/The_Donald, where one of the rules is “no dissenters”—turned on the organization this weekend, refusing to believe “NimbleRichMan” was the anonymous “near-billionaire” he claimed to be and causing a rift on one of the alt-right’s most powerful organizational tools.

Luckey insists he’s just the group’s money man—a wealthy booster who thought the meddlesome idea was funny. But he is also listed as the vice president of the group on its website.

“It’s something that no campaign is going to run,” Luckey said of the proposed billboards for the project.

“I’ve got plenty of money,” Luckey added. “Money is not my issue. I thought it sounded like a real jolly good time.”

But in another post written under Luckey’s Reddit pseudonym, there are echoes of a similar tech billionaire, Peter Thiel, who used his deep pockets to secretly fund a campaign against Gawker.

“The American Revolution was funded by wealthy individuals,” NimbleRichMan wrote on Saturday. Luckey confirmed to The Daily Beast he penned the posts under his Reddit pseudonym. “The same has been true of many movements for freedom in history. You can’t fight the American elite without serious firepower. They will outspend you and destroy you by any and all means.”

Well, not so secretly, apparently...

[GreenGoo]

KNEEL BEFORE ZOD!

After the humiliation of President Barack Obama raking him over the coals for pushing birther conspiracy theories, a top surrogate for Donald Trump said he will have his “ultimate revenge” when all of his critics have to “bow down” to him in the White House.

In a clip previewing an upcoming special from PBS Frontline, published online Thursday, Omarosa Manigault spoke about the abject humiliation Trump felt after Obama did an extended bit about the real estate mogul at the 2011 White House Correspondents Dinner.

“Every critic, every detractor, will have to bow down to president Trump,” Manigault said. “It’s everyone who’s ever doubted Donald, who ever disagreed, who ever challenged him. It is the ultimate revenge to become the most powerful man in the universe.”

Roger Stone, a longtime Trump confidant with loose ties to the campaign, called the 2011 event “the night that [Trump] resolved to run for president.”

This can't possibly be true.

He just gets worse and worse. What a petty, small, ignorant man.

[noxiousdog]

I think it's important to make clear the nasty white nationalist undercurrent characterizing his campaign.

I do too.

However, if I'm concerned about immigration affecting my livelihood, who am I going to listen to?
Candidate A: I will keep the immigrants out.
Candidate B: You're racist.

Whether or not that's what candidate B is saying, that's what people are hearing.

[GreenGoo]

What if we all agreed to not make fun of him again if he drops out of the race? I feel like he would take that deal.

You might as well suggest the world completely ignores the Kardashians for a 24 hour period. It's not possible.

It wouldn't be easy, but if it could get Trump to go away, I feel like we could band together and get it done.

I hear you guys built a canal connecting the atlantic with the pacific. You can do anything.

[raydude]

I further conjecture that showing people you are part of their tribe would be more effective than showing them why they aren't. I firmly believe the shift in homosexual acceptance is because of the openness. People have friends and family members now that it's mostly accepted to be gay. Homosexuals have become part of the tribe. It's the reason Denzel Washington, Opera Winfrey, and Michael Jordan can be three of the 10 most popular people in America. They have become part of the tribe.

So Kim Davis and her supporters just missed the tribe memo?

[noxiousdog]

I further conjecture that showing people you are part of their tribe would be more effective than showing them why they aren't. I firmly believe the shift in homosexual acceptance is because of the openness. People have friends and family members now that it's mostly accepted to be gay. Homosexuals have become part of the tribe. It's the reason Denzel Washington, Opera Winfrey, and Michael Jordan can be three of the 10 most popular people in America. They have become part of the tribe.

So Kim Davis and her supporters just missed the tribe memo?

What are you taking about?

[Rip]

Trump Rape Accuser to Refile Suit in New York

A lawsuit filed by an anonymous plaintiff accusing Donald Trump of raping a teenager in the 1990's and threatening to kill her family, will be re-filed with an additional witness on board, the woman's attorney revealed Thursday.

Thomas Meagher, attorney for the Jane Doe plaintiff said they plan to re-file the complaint, accompanied by a new witness afidavit, as soon as the end of next week.
The original lawsuit was voluntarily dismissed on September 16th.

The June 20, 2016, complaint accused the Republican presidential nominee and billionaire Jeffrey Epstein of rape, sexual misconduct, criminal sexual acts, sexual abuse, forcible touching, assault, battery, intentional and reckless infliction of emotional distress, duress, false imprisonment, and defamation.

The same Jeffrey Epstein that is best buds with Bill Clinton, it truly is a small world.

[geezer]

Palmer Luckey: The Facebook Near-Billionaire Secretly Funding Trump’s Meme Machine

A Silicon Valley titan is putting money behind an unofficial Donald Trump group dedicated to “shitposting” and circulating internet memes maligning Hillary Clinton.

Oculus founder Palmer Luckey financially backed a pro-Trump political organization called Nimble America, a self-described “social welfare 501(c)4 non-profit” in support of the Republican nominee.

Luckey sold his virtual reality company Oculus to Facebook for $2 billion in 2014, and Forbes estimates his current net worth to be $700 million. The 24-year-old told The Daily Beast that he had used the pseudonym “NimbleRichMan” on Reddit with a password given to him by the organization’s founders.

Nimble America says it’s dedicated to proving that “shitposting is powerful and meme magic is real,” according to the company’s introductory statement, and has taken credit for a billboard its founders say was posted outside of Pittsburgh with a cartoonishly large image of Clinton’s face alongside the words “Too Big to Jail.”

“We conquered Reddit and drive narrative on social media, conquered the [mainstream media], now it’s time to get our most delicious memes in front of Americans whether they like it or not,” a representative for the group wrote in an introductory post on Reddit.

Potential donors from Donald Trump’s biggest online community—Reddit’s r/The_Donald, where one of the rules is “no dissenters”—turned on the organization this weekend, refusing to believe “NimbleRichMan” was the anonymous “near-billionaire” he claimed to be and causing a rift on one of the alt-right’s most powerful organizational tools.

Luckey insists he’s just the group’s money man—a wealthy booster who thought the meddlesome idea was funny. But he is also listed as the vice president of the group on its website.

“It’s something that no campaign is going to run,” Luckey said of the proposed billboards for the project.

“I’ve got plenty of money,” Luckey added. “Money is not my issue. I thought it sounded like a real jolly good time.”

But in another post written under Luckey’s Reddit pseudonym, there are echoes of a similar tech billionaire, Peter Thiel, who used his deep pockets to secretly fund a campaign against Gawker.

“The American Revolution was funded by wealthy individuals,” NimbleRichMan wrote on Saturday. Luckey confirmed to The Daily Beast he penned the posts under his Reddit pseudonym. “The same has been true of many movements for freedom in history. You can’t fight the American elite without serious firepower. They will outspend you and destroy you by any and all means.”

Well, not so secretly, apparently...

Not directly related, but I see a not-insignificant group of people that want to promote Trump, support Trump, and even seemingly elect Trump just because they think it would be "funny" or make things "interesting." These people really bother me. Trolls suck, but taking it past trying to get a rise out of someone and into actual messing with peoples lives? That's just infuriating.

[GreenGoo]

so friends with the husband of the presidential candidate, or the presidential candidate himself.

Where are you going with this? Hillary raped her by proxy and 2 orders of separation?

Drumpf is zero orders of separation. Zero.

[Defiant]

I further conjecture that showing people you are part of their tribe would be more effective than showing them why they aren't. I firmly believe the shift in homosexual acceptance is because of the openness. People have friends and family members now that it's mostly accepted to be gay. Homosexuals have become part of the tribe.

I'd use the term "visibility", rather than "openness". But this really isn't true in many places in the country (eg, outside big cities and occasionally even in them) and results in things like a suicide rate of gay teens five times the rate of straight teens and disproportionately more likely to experience homelessness and that LGBT's in general are the likeliest group to be targeted in a hate crime.

[TheMix]

so friends with the husband of the presidential candidate, or the presidential candidate themself.

Where are you going with this? Hillary raped her by proxy and 2 orders of separation?

Drumpf is zero orders of separation. Zero.

I had the same thought. I was even going to ask him what his point was. Then I remembered that misdirection is his point.

But just to be sure I went back and looked again. Still don't see Bill listed as one of the defendants. Surprising (not). Wonder why the plaintiff didn't name every person that knows either of the defendants (no I don't)?

[Max Peck]

Palmer Luckey: The Facebook Near-Billionaire Secretly Funding Trump’s Meme Machine

Not directly related, but I see a not-insignificant group of people that want to promote Trump, support Trump, and even seemingly elect Trump just because they think it would be "funny" or make things "interesting." These people really bother me. Trolls suck, but taking it past trying to get a rise out of someone and into actual messing with peoples lives? That's just infuriating.

[tjg_marantz]

Charlotte congressman sorry for Newsnight race comments - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-37453672

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[YellowKing]

This guy's a piece of work:

“Those peddling the narrative of cops as a racist force in our society -- and this is a narrative that’s supported with a nod by my opponent, you see what she’s saying and it’s not good -- shared directly in the responsibility for the unrest that is afflicting our country and hurting those who have really the very least,” Trump said.

“Hillary Clinton does not have to worry the sirens and the gun shots at night. She doesn’t worry about it,” he added. “She’s sleeping.”

This guy's a master at flipping the script. If you look carefully, he's simultaneously appearing to sympathize with the victims ("hurting those who have really the very least," "doesn't have to worry about the sirens and gun shots at night") while actually de-legitimizing their complaints by painting it as a false narrative concocted by the left. Unbelievable.

[Skinypupy]

Trump's list of potential Supreme Court nominees includes Utah Sen. Mike Lee.

Pardon me while I lose my lunch...

[GreenGoo]

This guy's a piece of work:

“Those peddling the narrative of cops as a racist force in our society -- and this is a narrative that’s supported with a nod by my opponent, you see what she’s saying and it’s not good -- shared directly in the responsibility for the unrest that is afflicting our country and hurting those who have really the very least,” Trump said.

“Hillary Clinton does not have to worry the sirens and the gun shots at night. She doesn’t worry about it,” he added. “She’s sleeping.”

This guy's a master at flipping the script.

Only if no one actually listens to what he says. Are people really this incapable of understanding sentences? Half of what comes out of Drumpf's mouth is gibberish. I don't mean I don't agree with it, I mean it's non-sensical.

[tjg_marantz]

Ted Cruz plans to endorse Donald Trump as early as Friday, sources familiar with the decision tell CNN. Watch CNN

[noxiousdog]

I further conjecture that showing people you are part of their tribe would be more effective than showing them why they aren't. I firmly believe the shift in homosexual acceptance is because of the openness. People have friends and family members now that it's mostly accepted to be gay. Homosexuals have become part of the tribe.

I'd use the term "visibility", rather than "openness". But this really isn't true in many places in the country (eg, outside big cities and occasionally even in them) and results in things like a suicide rate of gay teens five times the rate of straight teens and disproportionately more likely to experience homelessness and that LGBT's in general are the likeliest group to be targeted in a hate crime.

And increasing the amount of threat by calling people bigots (true or not) is likely not going to change anything.

Gay Pride Parades? Makes a difference. Yelling "Evil and bigot!" Not so much.

Look at it this way. We are moving away from shame, fear, and pain as teaching techniques. It should be the same way in politics. Yes, they are powerful motivators, but only when used correctly and in small doses.

[Isgrimnur]

This one's for Yellowking:

Thanks for reminding me to request my early voting ballot!

I've got to wait until 10/24 before I can early vote.

[Defiant]

Gay Pride Parades? Makes a difference. Yelling "Evil and bigot!" Not so much.

Both of them have their place. I prefer the former, but homophobes absolutely need to be called out on homophobia.

But my point was that LGBT have a ways to go to become "part of the tribe"

[noxiousdog]

Gay Pride Parades? Makes a difference. Yelling "Evil and bigot!" Not so much.

Both of them have their place. I prefer the former, but homophobes absolutely need to be called out on homophobia.

But my point was that LGBT have a ways to go to become "part of the tribe"

There isn't one tribe. Every person has their own feelings about "us" and "them." Clearly, more people are now including LGBT than are not. It's 300 million individual decisions, not some national vote.

[Enough]

Gay Pride Parades? Makes a difference. Yelling "Evil and bigot!" Not so much.

Both of them have their place. I prefer the former, but homophobes absolutely need to be called out on homophobia.

But my point was that LGBT have a ways to go to become "part of the tribe"

See the neat thing about the folks yelling bigot and such is that they tend to help define a middle that includes gay rights. It helps make those that don't yell bigot but still ask for their rights seem more moderate to the general public. Dr. King, please meet Mr. X...

[Smoove_B]

Ted Cruz just endorsed Trump? Holy crap.

[Captain Caveman]

Ted Cruz just endorsed Trump? Holy crap.

It's just a tacit admission that his father actually did kill JFK.

I mean, jeez. I guess this puts to bed any thought of Cruz being a "principled conservative". His stand at the RNC obviously backfired-- his favorable plummeted and there's even talk her in Texas that his re-election as Senator might be at risk-- so he has no choice but to kneel before Zod.

[LordMortis]

Ted Cruz just endorsed Trump? Holy crap.

It's just a tacit admission that his father actually did kill JFK.

I mean, jeez. I guess this puts to bed any thought of Cruz being a "principled conservative". His stand at the RNC obviously backfired-- his favorable plummeted and there's even talk her in Texas that his re-election as Senator might be at risk-- so he has no choice but to kneel before Zod.

http://www.businessinsider.com/john-kas ... bus-2016-9

During a Sunday interview CBS's "Face the Nation," Priebus said Trump's former primary challengers might face trouble in 2020 or 2024 if they did not announce their support for Trump.

"Those people need to get on board," he said. "And if they're thinking they're going to run again someday, I think that we're going to evaluate the process — of the nomination process — and I don't think it's going to be that easy for them."

Kasich, along with Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas and former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, has prominently refused to endorse Trump since he wrapped up the party's nomination in May. Priebus said the party would "look at" potential penalties for those who have not endorsed Trump and are considering a future presidential bid. Every GOP presidential hopeful signed a loyalty pledge last summer stating they would support the eventual nominee no matter who it was.

"People in our party are talking about what we're going to do about this. I mean, there's a ballot access issue in South Carolina," Priebus said. "In order to be on the ballot in South Carolina, you actually have to pledge your support to the nominee, no matter who that person is. So what's the penalty for that? It's not a threat, but that's just the question that we have a process in place.

"And if a private entity puts forward a process and has agreement with the participants in that process, and those participants don't follow through with the promises that they made in that process, what — what should a private party do about that if those same people come around in four or eight years?"

[Smoove_B]

And now Trump might have the coveted Kim Kardashian endorsement? Please, sweet Cthulhu -- rise from your underwater city and end it now.

[Isgrimnur]

[Captain Caveman]

And now Trump might have the coveted Kim Kardashian endorsement? Please, sweet Cthulhu -- rise from your underwater city and end it now.

It's only to increase the chances of her husband's candidacy in 2020.

[Skinypupy]

And now Trump might have the coveted Kim Kardashian endorsement? Please, sweet Cthulhu -- rise from your underwater city and end it now.

I know we like to laugh at this, but consider that Kim K has built her (sadly) massive following around vapid, overly impressionable people. I'd guess there's a sizable chunk of her "followers" of voting age who would easily be swayed on whatever she decides. Not that it would ultimately determine the election, but when things are potentially as tight as they are, well...

We'll just save the discussion of how disgusting it is that our society is in that sort of position for another time.