The Hillary Clinton thread

[malchior]

The FBI is also leaking information around this issue like crazy right now. Sometimes idealism isn't the best course and he is in many ways too rigid and then goes off track without warning. Possibly the worst combination of traits possible for that job.

Can you link to a new source that is reporting this?

A good recap and analysis of the political issues around the FBI now

[Defiant]

VLADIMIR PUTIN: WHY HE FEARS A HILLARY CLINTON WHITE HOUSE

Put up the wrong article. This is a good article about why Putin doesn't like Clinton.

[Smutly]

This baseball fandom innuendo and tomfoolery is obviously Russian interference in our electoral process! Evidence people! Evidence!

People who believe that Russia is messing with our election process: 17 Federal investigating agencies.

People who don't: Donald Trump, you.

Excellent. So you now agree that those same experts who are saying foreign entities hacked Hillary's homegrown server are correct. I'm glad we see eye to eye.

[GreenGoo]

Cite please.

The US government has come out and publicly accused Russia of hacking the DNC.

Presumably there is similarly strongly worded comments about her server?

My assumption is that her server was compromised because it was an undefended, high value server sitting in a basement with little to no support. That's not the same thing as proof that it was, however.

[Smutly]

Cite please.

The US government has come out and publicly accused Russia of hacking the DNC.

Presumably there is similarly strongly worded comments about her server?

My assumption is that her server was compromised because it was an undefended, high value server sitting in a basement with little to no support. That's not the same thing as proof that it was, however.

So an accusation is evidence and proof?

[GreenGoo]

When it comes in public from the United States of America, it *usually* does.

Of course Iraq and Snowden tarnish that reputation.

In any case, are you suggesting that you have even less proof than the Feds claim to have?

You can undermine my claim if you want, but that undermines yours at the same time. Which leaves us...where, exactly?

[Pyperkub]

Cite please.

The US government has come out and publicly accused Russia of hacking the DNC.

Presumably there is similarly strongly worded comments about her server?

My assumption is that her server was compromised because it was an undefended, high value server sitting in a basement with little to no support. That's not the same thing as proof that it was, however.

So an accusation is evidence and proof?

It will be if Trump becomes president, apparently.

[Smutly]

When it comes in public from the United States of America, it *usually* does.

Of course Iraq and Snowden tarnish that reputation.

In any case, are you suggesting that you have even less proof than the Feds claim to have?

You can undermine my claim if you want, but that undermines yours at the same time. Which leaves us...where, exactly?

My point was solely that you can't have it both ways...

[GreenGoo]

My point was solely that you can't have it both ways...

Why not? One is the official position of many organizations, the other is "leaked" information (with no actual details) from one of them.

It's not binary. You can't say that because one scientist calls climate change a hoax, you immediately discount the vast majority of opinions from the rest.

[Defiant]

The reputation of the FBI keeps sinking.

[gilraen]

One of the MSNBC shows yesterday (I forget if it was Rachel Maddow, or maybe Chris Hayes) actually pointed out that Rudy Giuliani was boasting about "something up their sleeve" 2 days before the Comey letter hit, which would only indicate that FBI leaked this information to the Trump campaign. Of course, they were just guessing...who needs conspiracy theories when Rudy now just brags about it in the open.

I don't know how Comey or FBI's NY field office can maintain ANY sort of legitimacy after this election, as they have blatantly violated the Hatch Act and aren't even trying to hide it.

[Blackhawk]

The one thing I can say for sure about this campaign: It turned me from a cautious optimist to a pessimist when it comes to humanity and the US.

[Defiant]

Fox News apologizes for falsely reporting that Clinton faces indictment

[RunningMn9]

The reputation of the FBI keeps sinking.

No worries, I'm sure Jason Chaffetz and his Oversight committee are all over it.

[tgb]

One of the MSNBC shows yesterday (I forget if it was Rachel Maddow, or maybe Chris Hayes) actually pointed out that Rudy Giuliani was boasting about "something up their sleeve" 2 days before the Comey letter hit, which would only indicate that FBI leaked this information to the Trump campaign. Of course, they were just guessing...who needs conspiracy theories when Rudy now just brags about it in the open.

Don Lemon

[malchior]

Next HP novel - Harry Potter and the Shitty Media

[Carpet_pissr]

That does explain the sulfur smell that the dumbass on Infowars(?) referred to (or am I mixing up my crazy, right wing dumbasses? They are so many, it's hard to keep up).

But this shit would really be hilarious, if it didn't make me embarrassed to be an American. Not content to just absolutely trash another candidate, they will actually LITERALLY call you if not the literal Devil him/herself, certainly related to or working on behalf of Hell.

Mind? Boggled.

[Smutly]

[tgb]

Lying liar Giuliani twists slowly, slowly in the wind.

[Unagi]

Cite please.

The US government has come out and publicly accused Russia of hacking the DNC.

Presumably there is similarly strongly worded comments about her server?

My assumption is that her server was compromised because it was an undefended, high value server sitting in a basement with little to no support. That's not the same thing as proof that it was, however.

So an accusation is evidence and proof?

Evidence is the proof behind the accusation. What don't you get?

[GreenGoo]

Lying liar Giuliani twists slowly, slowly in the wind.

You know what's disgraceful? Exerting your constitutional rights to plead the fifth.

Fucking constitution.

Pretty weak gotcha interview though.

Also Guiliani is getting more punchable every year.

[geezer]

Lying liar Giuliani twists slowly, slowly in the wind.

Well come on - he hasn't gotten any leaked info, but he's *heard* it. Lots of people are saying things, believe me.

[Smutly]

Cite please.

The US government has come out and publicly accused Russia of hacking the DNC.

Presumably there is similarly strongly worded comments about her server?

My assumption is that her server was compromised because it was an undefended, high value server sitting in a basement with little to no support. That's not the same thing as proof that it was, however.

So an accusation is evidence and proof?

Evidence is the proof behind the accusation. What don't you get?

It's no fun when I have to point out what others don't get. All of this reminds me of the Bullshit Asymmetry Principle: The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it. I'll just check out of double-standard circular logic taco stand and call it a night. Good night, John Boy.

[GreenGoo]

Your brilliance is wasted on us.

[Jaymann]

I like tacos.

[gbasden]

Excellent. So you now agree that those same experts who are saying foreign entities hacked Hillary's homegrown server are correct. I'm glad we see eye to eye.

I'm pretty sure they did. So? We see hacking attempts all the time against email servers at all levels of state and local government. Undoubtedly some of those succeed. She was stupid to use a home based server. If I asked my aging mother to make IT decisions that's exactly the kind of crap I'd expect to happen. It probably happened to Powell and it probably happened to the RNC server that conveniently lost Bush's email.

While I roll my eyes at my mom when she can't remember the difference between Facebook and Twitter, I'd still elect her president over Drumpf.

[gbasden]

The one thing I can say for sure about this campaign: It turned me from a cautious optimist to a pessimist when it comes to humanity and the US.

Yes. Fucking yes.

[gilraen]

Excellent. So you now agree that those same experts who are saying foreign entities hacked Hillary's homegrown server are correct. I'm glad we see eye to eye.

I'm pretty sure they did. So? We see hacking attempts all the time against email servers at all levels of state and local government. Undoubtedly some of those succeed.

Not just "some". Tons.

2014 (article from Computerworld)

2014 and 2015 (white paper from the Heritage Foundation)

IRS in 2016

FBI in 2016 (hacked by a 16-year-old)

Welcome to the 21st century. The only secure server is one that's not connected to the Internet.

[Isgrimnur]

Welcome to the 21st century. The only secure server is one that's not connected to the Internet.

Tell that to the Iranians.

[GreenGoo]

Welcome to the 21st century. The only secure server is one that's not connected to the Internet.

Tell that to the Iranians.

...with USB turned off.

[Rip]

http://nypost.com/2016/11/06/clinton-di ... materials/

In a classified 2012 e-mail dealing with the new president of Malawi, another Clinton aide, Monica Hanley, advised Clinton, “We can ask Marina to print this.”

“Revisions to the Iran points” was the subject line of a classified April 2012 e-mail to Clinton from Hanley. In it, the text reads, “Marina is trying to print for you.”

Both classified e-mails were marked “confidential,” the tier below “secret” or “top secret.”

Santos also had access to a highly secure room called an SCIF (sensitive compartmented information facility) that diplomatic security agents set up at Whitehaven, according to FBI notes from an interview with Abedin.

From within the SCIF, Santos — who had no clearance — “collected documents from the secure facsimile machine for Clinton,” the FBI notes revealed.

Just how sensitive were the papers Santos presumably handled? The FBI noted Clinton periodically received the Presidential Daily Brief — a top-secret document prepared by the CIA and other US intelligence agencies — via the secure fax.

A 2012 “sensitive” but unclassified e-mail from Hanley to Clinton refers to a fax the staff wanted Clinton “to see before your Netanyahu mtg. Marina will grab for you.”

Yet it appears Clinton was never asked by the FBI in its yearlong investigation to turn over the iMac Santos used to receive the e-mails, or the printer she used to print out the documents, or the printouts themselves.

The maid? OMFG, you couldn't make this stuff up. Perhaps she will have the gardener take care of border security?

When a Post reporter confronted Santos at her DC apartment Friday, she would say only, “I don’t speak to reporters.”

According to a 2010 profile in The Philippine Star, close Clinton friend Vernon Jordan recommended Santos to the Clintons after she worked part-time for him.

Bill Clinton gave a speech in Manila as part of his foundation and took time to visit with the family of the “mayordoma [housekeeper] of his Washington, DC, home — Marina Santos.”

He was quoted as describing Santos as the “wonderful woman who runs our home in Washington, without whom Hillary will not be able to serve as secretary of state.” The article ended remarking, without a hint of irony: “Marina now runs his house so that he and his wife can better serve interests higher than their own.”

Santos could turn out to be the Betty Currie of the Clinton e-mail scandal. Currie was the secretary for President Clinton. She also came recommended by Jordan, and became famous as a central witness in the Monica Lewinsky scandal for her handling of gifts given to Clinton’s mistress.

Investigators had sought the gifts, allegedly hidden under Currie’s bed on orders from Clinton, as evidence.

If they had investigated 9/11 this thoroughly we would still be wondering if those planes flew themselves into the building.

[Smoove_B]

Incidentally, the maid is probably more qualified to be President than Donald Trump.

[Defiant]

Hillary Clinton said she would consider ending Daylight Saving Time

[malchior]

Hillary Clinton said she would consider ending Daylight Saving Time

Now she has my vote - Daylight Saving is pointless waste.

[Newcastle]

NYpost = one small step abnove the Nat'l enquirer. Isn't also owned by Murdoch?

And hey two cheers for Hillary for giving that maid a shot at climbing up the economic ladder right?

[tgb]

Hillary Clinton said she would consider ending Daylight Saving Time

Now she has my vote - Daylight Saving is pointless waste.

Move to AZ.

When I was growing up, the Post was considered the "middle ground" between the proudly lowbrow Daily News and the Times. Ever since Murdoch took it over in the 70's and started modeling it on his Aussie newspapers, it hasn't been worth anything beyond lining birdcages. The L.I. Newsday seems to be the new Post.

[Default]

Favorite NL and a favorite AL team. Not a problem!

[Scoop20906]

I wouldn't be shocked if most Washington officials operate in this manner with sensitive information.

It's a double standard that the higher ups can get away with while lower level govies may be fired for it.

I doubt anyone would be prosecuted unless there was evidence that they sought to cause damage to the United States. Thus H. Clinton has not been charged. It's only an issue because one political side sees it as an opportunity to discredit a rival. None of them would care otherwise.

That's my opinion anyway.


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[Alefroth]

The maid? OMFG, you couldn't make this stuff up.

Wrong.

[Defiant]

The maid? OMFG, you couldn't make this stuff up.

Wrong.

Allow me.