Random randomness

Zarathud · Post by **Zarathud** » Wed Dec 28, 2016 3:02 pm

Rip talking about his political oppression is the least random thing in this thread!

Get better, hepcat.

3 days off after Christmas and I still can't get time to see a movie in the theatre! Sigh.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Wed Dec 28, 2016 4:17 pm

Paingod wrote:
Holman wrote:Urghh. Coming off a stomach virus that hit on Monday night. Spent most of 36 hours in bed. Puked sixteen times. It was a struggle staying hydrated.
Jeebus. 16? I'm usually all done and spent after like 3 or 4. After that my stomach more or less says "I'm miserable, but there's nothing left here" and the problems migrate south...

I'm some kind of puke artiste. I can keep heaving looong after there's nothing to heave.

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Wed Dec 28, 2016 4:44 pm

If you picked "age 10" as the point at which I'd need to deal with someone's a-hole child cyberbullying my own child, step forward and pick your prize. Events are still unfolding but I'm ready to burn it to the ground. The parents of this girl have exactly one path to correct this and for their sake, I hope they take it. Holy shit, where's the Tylenol?

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Wed Dec 28, 2016 4:50 pm

So bad that it requires adult intervention?

pr0ner · Post by **pr0ner** » Wed Dec 28, 2016 4:55 pm

Smoove_B wrote:If you picked "age 10" as the point at which I'd need to deal with someone's a-hole child cyberbullying my own child, step forward and pick your prize. Events are still unfolding but I'm ready to burn it to the ground. The parents of this girl have exactly one path to correct this and for their sake, I hope they take it. Holy shit, where's the Tylenol?

Damn. I kinda want details.

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Wed Dec 28, 2016 5:06 pm

hepcat wrote: So bad that it requires adult intervention?

Yes. The material that has been posted online was filmed during adult-supervised activities as part of a rather large gender-focused civic based non-profit group. The girl that is doing it is actually the adult supervisor's daughter, which takes this to a whole new level. I need to believe she is 100% unaware of what is happening online because otherwise I'm going to jail. I also apparently need to teach my 10 year old to grab and smash cell phones when people are filming her...like we're famous or something.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Wed Dec 28, 2016 5:10 pm

Whoa, that sounds serious.

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Wed Dec 28, 2016 5:12 pm

Found out about it on Xmas Eve and I've been slowly boiling for the last 4 days. My wife has decided to be good cop first, but I'm not hopeful it's going to work. She said if her method does not get results I am cleared for my attempt.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Wed Dec 28, 2016 5:16 pm

Send 'em over to my place. I'll arrange a shower "accident".

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Wed Dec 28, 2016 5:44 pm

Smoove_B wrote:Yes. The material that has been posted online was filmed during adult-supervised activities as part of a rather large gender-focused civic based non-profit group. The girl that is doing it is actually the adult supervisor's daughter, which takes this to a whole new level. I need to believe she is 100% unaware of what is happening online because otherwise I'm going to jail. I also apparently need to teach my 10 year old to grab and smash cell phones when people are filming her...like we're famous or something.

Did this ever pass?

http://www.splc.org/article/2016/02/new-jersey-q-and-a#

http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/2016/Bills ... 521_I1.PDF

http://www.dmlp.org/legal-guide/new-jer ... licity-law

I have no idea what you're talking about but if I had children and it came down to either me over reacting on their behalf or allowing someone else's child to get away with being a child at my child's expense and the Internet is involved? I'm choosing over reacting 100% of the time. Kids being kids gets no pass from me.

Octavious · Post by **Octavious** » Wed Dec 28, 2016 5:49 pm

Smoove_B wrote:
hepcat wrote: So bad that it requires adult intervention?
Yes. The material that has been posted online was filmed during adult-supervised activities as part of a rather large gender-focused civic based non-profit group. The girl that is doing it is actually the adult supervisor's daughter, which takes this to a whole new level. I need to believe she is 100% unaware of what is happening online because otherwise I'm going to jail. I also apparently need to teach my 10 year old to grab and smash cell phones when people are filming her...like we're famous or something.

My sister wanted to get my daughter a phone and I was like nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo... I'm holding out until she's 21. That's fair right? And I wouldn't want to be the kid that messes with my daughter. My wife would go NUTS on them.

Zarathud · Post by **Zarathud** » Wed Dec 28, 2016 5:50 pm

Smoove_B wrote:The material that has been posted online was filmed during adult-supervised activities as part of a rather large gender-focused civic based non-profit group. The girl that is doing it is actually the adult supervisor's daughter, which takes this to a whole new level.

It suggests that you'll get action -- either by the adult supervisor/parent or the head of the civic group. If you go bad cop, there should be significant leverage. Last thing a gender-oriented group wants is bad press out of its activities.

Still, this shit sucks. My wife keeps saying I should read Queen Bees and Wannabes, but I think dystopian fiction might be less bleak.

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Wed Dec 28, 2016 5:54 pm

LordMortis wrote:kids being kids gets no pass from me.

My initial reaction is -- when you give a 10 year old an iPhone and unrestricted access to social media, what did you think was going to happen? But apparently my viewpoint isn't common.

The core issue here is that we entrusted our child to the care of an adult that was acting in a supervisory capacity during a club-sponsored event. At some point during this event a cell phone was used to photograph and record our child and those photos and videos were then posted to social media. The only reason they were posted was to taunt and make fun of her with 30+ other people. I repeat - burn it to the fucking ground.

Z-Corn · Post by **Z-Corn** » Wed Dec 28, 2016 6:33 pm

One time when I was about four years old a neighbor kid chased me down the street and stabbed me in the back with a pencil. I made it back to my yard before he caught me so my Mom saw the whole thing happen.

She took me to the hospital to make sure I was OK.

After we got home she grabbed the same metal spatula off the kitchen rack that she used to spank me and we walked down to that kid's house. She barged in the door and beat that kids ass with the spatula in front of his Mother. Pulled down his pants and beat his bare ass. That was the end of the matter.

I'm pretty sure it was easier to be a parent in the '70's...

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Wed Dec 28, 2016 7:35 pm

I'm pretty sure it was easier to be a parent in the '70's...

It was. But Im sure parents back then said the same thing about the 50s.

dbt1949 · Post by **dbt1949** » Wed Dec 28, 2016 7:55 pm

I know my best friend's mom was sure mad at me the time I hung her son up with a rope.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Wed Dec 28, 2016 8:26 pm

Saw online that fans have started a GoFundMe to protect Betty White from 2016. I smiled. Not sure how that would help though. And as tough as she is I think she is safe. 2016 must be afraid of her.

Someone else sais that David Bowie started an alternate universe and is hand selecting cool members.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Wed Dec 28, 2016 9:21 pm

dbt1949 wrote:I know my best friend's mom was sure mad at me the time I hung her son up with a rope.

To be fair, he was a cattle rustler...and t wasn't like you could get him to Kansas City for a proper trial. It was at least a four day ride!

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Wed Dec 28, 2016 9:37 pm

I got into a fight with one of my friends once. Kicked him real good and went home. My grandma made me walk to their house and apologize to him and make up. At the time I was so mad and embarrassed. But looking back it was not only the right thing to do it was the best thing because we stayed friends and had a lot of fun times. To not be friends over some little thing I cant even remember now would have been silly.

dbt1949 · Post by **dbt1949** » Wed Dec 28, 2016 9:50 pm

If my friend had survived we were going to do me next.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:05 pm

One kitchen shelving unit complete, one Amazon Echo set up.

Two shelving units, an XBox One S, and a security camera to go.

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:39 pm

I'm at Little B 3.9's karate class tonight. There's a big central hallway at the rec center, with all the gyms, classrooms, racquetball courts, etc. that branch off of it. At any given time, there's karate, dance, gymnastics, basketball, volleyball, and other things going on, with kids all over the place. It was a light crowd tonight, just karate and a few girls basketball games.

A girl who looked 12 or 13 comes out of the b-ball court in tears and sits on the bench right outside, quickly followed by her mother. Mom sits down, puts her arm around the girl, and starts to console her. About 30 seconds later, out storms dad (I assume), getting right in the girl's face and screaming at the top of his lungs. "Fuck your effort! That was fucking pathetic! I expect 100% effort 100% of the time, otherwise you're wasting everyone's fucking time. I didn't agree to do this so we would lose, and you're fucking making it happen!" This goes on for about 60 seconds of the same sort of tirade, with the girl getting more hysterical and mom trying to calm him down. Finally three of us dads who were sitting outside the karate class walk over and stand behind him. He quickly realizes he's being watched, and thought for a second about taking us all on ("You assholes got a problem? You got something to fucking say to me?") before he finally stormed out. We sat with the mom and kid for a few minutes until they calmed down, then they left as well.

Assholes like that make my blood absolutely boil. I can never even imagine screaming at a child like that over a game, much less my own daughter. There is nothing that kid could have done that could possibly justify that sort of reaction, much less doing it in public with a whole truckload of other kids standing around watching it happen. I can only imagine what it's like for that kid at home, which makes me doubly sad.

Makes me wish there was something more I could do...a public beatdown would have served that asshole right.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Wed Dec 28, 2016 11:02 pm

Some people just shouldn't be parents.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Wed Dec 28, 2016 11:05 pm

It's so hard to know what you can do in a situation like that. Confronting the dad directly will probably make life worse for the girl.

I think the best thing would be to talk to the coach. Maybe she knows the girl well enough to look for warning signs.

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Wed Dec 28, 2016 11:14 pm

Holman wrote:It's so hard to know what you can do in a situation like that. Confronting the dad directly will probably make life worse for the girl.

I think the best thing would be to talk to the coach. Maybe she knows the girl well enough to look for warning signs.

I think the dad was the coach by the way he was talking. He yelled "the only reason I coach..." at one point during his spittle-flecked rampage.

Can't say what set it all off though, as I didn't see anything but what spilled out into the hallway.

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Wed Dec 28, 2016 11:56 pm

Holman wrote:It's so hard to know what you can do in a situation like that. Confronting the dad directly will probably make life worse for the girl.

I think the best thing would be to talk to the coach. Maybe she knows the girl well enough to look for warning signs.

You tell him to shut the hell up because no one wants to hear his tennis dad shit. Don't make it about protecting his kid (even though hopefully it does), make it about yourself and protecting your kid(s). Then get him out of there. Then complain to the league, whether he's a coach or not.

Giles Habibula · Post by **Giles Habibula** » Wed Dec 28, 2016 11:58 pm

Jesus. I've only seen stuff like that on TV, or have read about it. Never, ever seen anything like what you described in real life. Wrenched my heart to read it, and it upsets me to know that it really does happen.

What could a child possibly have done to...Well, you already covered that.
So sad.
As far as what to do, I would have been totally unprepared for something like that. I would have probably come up with at ton of good responses later, but at that moment, I imagine most people would have been at a total loss, except to do what you did.

Giles Habibula · Post by **Giles Habibula** » Thu Dec 29, 2016 12:03 am

LawBeefaroni wrote: You tell him to shut the hell up because no one wants to hear his tennis dad shit. Don't make it about protecting his kid (even though hopefully it does), make it about yourself and protecting your kid(s). Then get him out of there. Then complain to the league, whether he's a coach or not.

I like this response the best, as it addresses all angles of the problem.

dbt1949 · Post by **dbt1949** » Thu Dec 29, 2016 12:56 am

When I was a kid I was in a fight with the kid across the street. When I started winning his dad got a belt hit him and told him to keep fighting.We both kept going until we were too damn tired to continue.

Of course what could you expect from that family, they were from New Jersey.

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Thu Dec 29, 2016 1:42 am

LawBeefaroni wrote:
Holman wrote:It's so hard to know what you can do in a situation like that. Confronting the dad directly will probably make life worse for the girl.

I think the best thing would be to talk to the coach. Maybe she knows the girl well enough to look for warning signs.
You tell him to shut the hell up because no one wants to hear his tennis dad shit. Don't make it about protecting his kid (even though hopefully it does), make it about yourself and protecting your kid(s). Then get him out of there. Then complain to the league, whether he's a coach or not.

I've replayed the situation in my head a hundred times, and wish I would have said or done something more. Honestly though, part of me was a bit leery of ending up as a headline tomorrow. "Skinypupy shot and killed at Utah rec center after argument with lunatic basketball parent." The guy seemed kinda unhinged, and I wasn't quite sure how far he would take it. I'm a very non-confrontational person by nature, so I (and the other dads, I assume) all just figured it was best to try and diffuse the situation as best we could without escalating things further.

Kraken · Post by **Kraken** » Thu Dec 29, 2016 2:53 am

Holman wrote:It's so hard to know what you can do in a situation like that.

Carry an assortment of participation trophies.

Anonymous Bosch · Post by **Anonymous Bosch** » Thu Dec 29, 2016 3:39 am

Skinypupy wrote:
LawBeefaroni wrote:
Holman wrote:It's so hard to know what you can do in a situation like that. Confronting the dad directly will probably make life worse for the girl.

I think the best thing would be to talk to the coach. Maybe she knows the girl well enough to look for warning signs.
You tell him to shut the hell up because no one wants to hear his tennis dad shit. Don't make it about protecting his kid (even though hopefully it does), make it about yourself and protecting your kid(s). Then get him out of there. Then complain to the league, whether he's a coach or not.
I've replayed the situation in my head a hundred times, and wish I would have said or done something more.

If you're sufficiently motivated, you could likely still report your concerns to local law enforcement (from the sounds of it, I doubt they'd have much difficulty identifying the culprit). An asshole like that possibly warrants further investigation (or at least a good talking-to) from local law enforcement, all the moreso if he's that unstable while coaching other children.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Thu Dec 29, 2016 10:01 am

I believe the kids today would whip out their phones to record it while yelling 'WORLDSTAR!'

Paingod · Post by **Paingod** » Thu Dec 29, 2016 10:25 am

Working with PowerShell ... "Why won't it work? What the hell? Positional Parameter this, you POS!" (a few minutes of hunting online and reviewing what I had typed) "Oh, "Set" and "Get" aren't interchangable like that, are they? Sigh..."

I know it's the wave of the future and CMD is going away and fewer admin features are available in the GUIs, but I've never been overly comfortable with command lines. Too much margin for error with a mis-typed character or forgotten switch.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Thu Dec 29, 2016 10:27 am

Set it ... AND FORGET IT!

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Thu Dec 29, 2016 10:39 am

Paingod wrote:CMD is going away

LIES!!!!!

Paingod · Post by **Paingod** » Thu Dec 29, 2016 11:56 am

LordMortis wrote:
Paingod wrote:CMD is going away
LIES!!!!!

It's only a matter of time...

I'll miss typing

Code: Select all

ipconfig /flushdns

Instead of...

Code: Select all

Clear-DnsClientCache

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Thu Dec 29, 2016 12:59 pm

I've been working with Powershell 3 and Microsoft Online (nee Office 365) services for about a year now. And I still have to refer to the documentation every time I do something. Methinks it's time I bit the bullet and spend some time really learning it.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Thu Dec 29, 2016 1:04 pm

I have to look up the proper method of using Excel's VLOOKUP every time I need it because it's such a sporadic need.

gilraen · Post by **gilraen** » Thu Dec 29, 2016 1:41 pm

I'm in the process of cleaning up thousands of Excel rows (well, techically CSV) to get legacy data ready to import to a different ticketing system. I learned more about VLOOKUP in the last 2 weeks than I ever wanted to know.