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Holman · Post by **Holman** » Tue Jun 06, 2017 10:09 pm

Rip wrote:
Holman wrote:
Rip wrote:Which would translate to most townhalls are a waste. I stand behind it.

I am quite comfortable saying that more than 50% of the townhalls for Congressman/Senators turn into pretty much this. Disruptive trolling by the parties opposed to them are practically becoming a national pastime. On both sides.
What ratio of chaotic expression (which still, of course, sends a message) to orderly Q&A would be enough to absolve representatives of their most fundamental and most important responsibility in our democracy?
I don't know that anyone is collecting statistics but you would have to be living under a rock to not read the press coverage talking about it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/pow ... hold-them/

No Q&As isn't going to change anything.

The town hall meeting essentially ended before it started — a victim of an out-of-control audience.

People screamed and waved signs. They wouldn’t let the congressman on stage talk. He couldn’t get through more than a word or two of an answer without his voice being drowned. Within an hour, he had left the stage, needing a police escort to get safely to his car.

No, this was not the meeting Rep. Jason Chaffetz, R-Utah, hosted at Brighton High School earlier this month. It was a meeting hosted by Rep. Tim Bishop, a Long Island Democrat, and it took place in June 2009, only a few months after he had won re-election by 16 percentage points.

He wasn’t alone. The rise of the tea party a few months before had energized many followers to confront Democratic lawmakers with noise and commotion, protesting Obamacare and bailouts.

At the time, Politico.com made this observation: “… welcome to the new town hall-style meeting, the once-staid forum that is rapidly turning into a house of horrors for members of Congress.” That now seems prescient.

It may be a truism in American politics that once one side unleashes a successful new weapon of incivility, the other side will retaliate in-kind at the first opportunity. Whether it’s the ratification of a Supreme Court justice or the use of executive orders to circumvent real discussion and compromise, politics never seems to retreat to a more civilized time. Folks upset with the nation’s direction seldom look to score points by rising in favor of civil discussion and a meaningful search for common ground.
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/8656 ... plish.html

You're dodging the question.

Representatives who avoid their constituents are not representatives.

Rip · Post by **Rip** » Wed Jun 07, 2017 2:25 am

I didn't say avoid them. There are dozens of ways to effectively communicate with them that are not townhalls.

Paingod · Post by **Paingod** » Wed Jun 07, 2017 7:03 am

Defiant wrote:

OMG, I needed that this morning. Thank you!

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Wed Jun 07, 2017 7:06 am

Rip wrote:I didn't say avoid them. There are dozens of ways to effectively communicate with them that are not townhalls.

We could just send any questions we have directly to Moscow and cut out the middleman.

PLW · Post by **PLW** » Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:36 am

From my Congressman

Paingod · Post by **Paingod** » Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:41 am

Our president has really brought out the best in everyone.

I suppose the bright side to all of this is that if we can get the country back on track and running like a real democracy should, we'll know who to keep away from the steering wheel.

Rip · Post by **Rip** » Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:17 am

gilraen · Post by **gilraen** » Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:22 am

Provided this is not photoshopped and considering the level of education of a typical "target audience" of this billboard - I'm going to guess that most of them will have no clue whatsoever to whom this list is referring.

Paingod · Post by **Paingod** » Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:24 am

At a glance, I thought someone had put together a checklist for Trump. The more I read, the more confused I was until I actually bothered to read all the points at once, together.

killbot737 · Post by **killbot737** » Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:28 am

Rip wrote:

Herod? Saladin? Caligula? Solomon? Ramses?

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:31 am

Lidstrom did none of those things.

Ralph-Wiggum · Post by **Ralph-Wiggum** » Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:41 am

I had no idea he had done all those things!

Alefroth · Post by **Alefroth** » Wed Jun 07, 2017 12:19 pm

PLW wrote:From my Congressman

Will his followers really not pick up the meaning without his explanation?

noxiousdog · Post by **noxiousdog** » Wed Jun 07, 2017 12:42 pm

noxiousdog wrote:
Max Peck wrote:
noxiousdog wrote:I don't get it.

edit: nm. you have to watch the clip. I'm not sure I would call it racism though.
Sure, because every bright young American uses Sanskrit instead of the Latin alphabet.
Most immigrant parents (and while I'm assuming her parents are immigrants, she has an accent) teach their children their tongue of heritage. I don't think it's racism to assume that. There's plenty of ignorance though to use "Sanskrit" instead of "Hindi."

For the record, there's a white guy next to me with a German accent. I don't think it's racist to assume he speaks German.

Max Peck · Post by **Max Peck** » Wed Jun 07, 2017 4:04 pm

noxiousdog wrote:For the record, there's a white guy next to me with a German accent. I don't think it's racist to assume he speaks German.

If you listen to any of the videos of your new national spelling champion, she doesn't speak with an Indian accent. She sounds pretty much like any other 12-year-old Californian.

Not that I'm saying you'd be racist for assuming she does, of course.

noxiousdog · Post by **noxiousdog** » Wed Jun 07, 2017 6:14 pm

Max Peck wrote:
noxiousdog wrote:For the record, there's a white guy next to me with a German accent. I don't think it's racist to assume he speaks German.
If you listen to any of the videos of your new national spelling champion, she doesn't speak with an Indian accent. She sounds pretty much like any other 12-year-old Californian.

Not that I'm saying you'd be racist for assuming she does, of course.

I thought I heard it, but obviously I'm wrong

. Luckily there's no shortage of ignorance in the world.

naednek · Post by **naednek** » Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:11 pm

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 9:28 am

The Sessions box got a chuckle.

Enough · Post by **Enough** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 1:04 pm

https://twitter.com/LoopEmma/status/872855606604038144

Paingod · Post by **Paingod** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 2:02 pm

Wow. It looks like every single one is just waiting for crazy grandpa to run out of time. And he did. He had to get the gavel twice and told to stop before he cut off his aimless rambling. Even then he looked surprised and a bit put off.

Moliere · Post by **Moliere** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 2:47 pm

Theresa May: "I'm clear: if human rights laws get in the way of tackling extremism and terrorism, we will change those laws to keep British people safe."

What could go wrong?

Moliere · Post by **Moliere** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 4:58 pm

Trump the diplomat strikes again: 17 dead in Iran attack? You had it coming.

Fitzy · Post by **Fitzy** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 7:22 pm

Moliere wrote:
Trump the diplomat strikes again: 17 dead in Iran attack? You had it coming.

Isn't that almost exactly the argument the terrorists use justify attacks against us?

Edit: I meant Trump's statement. Not yours

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Fri Jun 09, 2017 8:16 am

LordMortis wrote:Lidstrom did none of those things.

Paingod · Post by **Paingod** » Fri Jun 09, 2017 10:12 am

Moliere wrote:Theresa May: "I'm clear: if human rights laws get in the way of tackling extremism and terrorism, we will change those laws to keep British people safe."

Next up: Redefining what we mean by "British People" to include only those with pasty skin, bad teeth, and a tired, world-weary expression.

I mean ... she's leaving this completely open-ended. Are we going to see Britain dropping chemical weapons in the middle east and kicking back saying "Hey, we're just killing vermin" ... she does know that the world as a whole will still stand up and oppose her attempts at redesigning human rights, yes?

Max Peck · Post by **Max Peck** » Fri Jun 09, 2017 10:55 am

Paingod wrote:
Moliere wrote:Theresa May: "I'm clear: if human rights laws get in the way of tackling extremism and terrorism, we will change those laws to keep British people safe."
Next up: Redefining what we mean by "British People" to include only those with pasty skin, bad teeth, and a tired, world-weary expression.

I mean ... she's leaving this completely open-ended. Are we going to see Britain dropping chemical weapons in the middle east and kicking back saying "Hey, we're just killing vermin" ... she does know that the world as a whole will still stand up and oppose her attempts at redesigning human rights, yes?

Well, where do you think Eric Trump is headed by saying that Democrats aren't even people? But at least he isn't a head of government; even in a full-blown Trumptopia, Eric would be the Appendix of Government at best.

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » Fri Jun 09, 2017 1:41 pm

Reminds me of the Kriminal Sopena.

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Fri Jun 09, 2017 1:51 pm

Rip · Post by **Rip** » Fri Jun 09, 2017 2:12 pm

Paingod · Post by **Paingod** » Fri Jun 09, 2017 2:18 pm

LordMortis wrote:

Also, the first free thinker. I suppose Satanists have a point.

Captain Caveman · Post by **Captain Caveman** » Fri Jun 09, 2017 10:19 pm

How has this not been posted yet?

https://twitter.com/pink_funk/status/872757738169937920

em2nought · Post by **em2nought** » Sat Jun 10, 2017 1:17 am

Bahahaha

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Sat Jun 10, 2017 9:08 am

In telling you exactly what it is you want to hear, I'm sure he probably is.

em2nought · Post by **em2nought** » Sat Jun 10, 2017 6:17 pm

Skinypupy wrote:In telling you exactly what it is you want to hear, I'm sure he probably is.

As in the truth? Is that why posting has dramatically slowed down on Trump and Russia, has the press suddenly stopped making $hit up? hehe I'm sure they're just trying to come up with a new angle. Maybe Trump's an alien from outer space?

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Sat Jun 10, 2017 6:46 pm

If you venture past Breitbart and Fox News, you'll find a lot of people are still talking about Russia.

YellowKing · Post by **YellowKing** » Sat Jun 10, 2017 10:56 pm

It's sort of like believing the 9 accredited doctors who tell you that you have cancer are "making shit up," because the quack across the hall that once read a medical encyclopedia tells you you're fine.

Captain Caveman · Post by **Captain Caveman** » Sat Jun 10, 2017 11:20 pm

YellowKing wrote:It's sort of like believing the 9 accredited doctors who tell you that you have cancer are "making shit up," because the quack across the hall that once read a medical encyclopedia tells you you're fine.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Sun Jun 11, 2017 1:18 am

naednek · Post by **naednek** » Sun Jun 11, 2017 9:05 am

Daehawk wrote:

lol