The Former Trump Presidency Thread

Kurth · Post by **Kurth** » Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:40 pm

LordMortis wrote:
YellowKing wrote:I really hope there is a special reserved seat in hell for Sarah Huckabee.
Next to Mike?

Oh and lying Associated Press release

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wir ... h-48967314

An investigator who worked on the Seth Rich case claims Fox News fabricated quotes implicating the murdered Democratic National Committee staffer in the WikiLeaks scandal and coordinated with the Trump administration as it worked on the story.

The investigator, Rod Wheeler, sued Fox for defamation. His lawsuit, filed Tuesday in New York, lays out an explosive tale of Trump allies conspiring to push a false story to take the pressure of the Russian collusion investigation off the president, and a news organization willing to show the president its story before it was published.

Wow. IF that gets traction, I think it could be really blow up. I wonder just how involved the WH was in that. Dirty business!

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:46 pm

Sounds like right now this is based on the claims of the investigator (Wheeler) who is the plaintiff in the lawsuit. We'll see how this ultimately plays out.

Max Peck · Post by **Max Peck** » Tue Aug 01, 2017 4:59 pm

LordMortis wrote:
YellowKing wrote:I really hope there is a special reserved seat in hell for Sarah Huckabee.
Next to Mike?

Oh and lying Associated Press release

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wir ... h-48967314

An investigator who worked on the Seth Rich case claims Fox News fabricated quotes implicating the murdered Democratic National Committee staffer in the WikiLeaks scandal and coordinated with the Trump administration as it worked on the story.

The investigator, Rod Wheeler, sued Fox for defamation. His lawsuit, filed Tuesday in New York, lays out an explosive tale of Trump allies conspiring to push a false story to take the pressure of the Russian collusion investigation off the president, and a news organization willing to show the president its story before it was published.

I like how they put a Fox News story in their "Entertainment" section. Sick burn!

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Tue Aug 01, 2017 5:05 pm

Apparently Wheeler has a screenshot of a text from the relevant Fox News person saying that Trump personally reviewed the Seth Rich story and wants it published.

Ralph-Wiggum · Post by **Ralph-Wiggum** » Tue Aug 01, 2017 5:13 pm

El Guapo wrote:Apparently Wheeler has a screenshot of a text from the relevant Fox News person saying that Trump personally reviewed the Seth Rich story and wants it published.

The Fox News person has claimed that email was a joke.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Tue Aug 01, 2017 5:20 pm

Ralph-Wiggum wrote:
El Guapo wrote:Apparently Wheeler has a screenshot of a text from the relevant Fox News person saying that Trump personally reviewed the Seth Rich story and wants it published.
The Fox News person has claimed that email was a joke.

Republicans are hilarious.

The allegations, contained in a lawsuit, have not been proven. But the most important fact they allege, that Fox News commentator Ed Butowsky claimed Trump himself reviewed the story in the White House and was eager to see it published, is substantiated by a screenshot of a text from Butowsky. (Butowsky now claims this statement was a joke, which is also the defense the White House offers of Trump’s urging of police to rough up suspects, Trump ordering Comey to back off investigating Michael Flynn, Trump urging Russia to hack his opponent’s emails, as well as the explanation Kevin McCarthy has put forward for his recorded suspicion that Trump was paid by Russia. It is a true age of dry wit in the Republican Party.)

Captain Caveman · Post by **Captain Caveman** » Tue Aug 01, 2017 5:25 pm

The irony is, I don't know if I've ever seen Trump laugh much less tell a joke. He's a pretty humorless dude.

Enough · Post by **Enough** » Tue Aug 01, 2017 5:25 pm

With hilarity like this, how can it be that Republicans are not the kings of late night comedy?

coopasonic · Post by **coopasonic** » Tue Aug 01, 2017 5:30 pm

Enough wrote:With hilarity like this, how can it be that Republicans are not the kings of late night comedy?

They are. Ask Colbert, Noah, Myers and Co.

It is some of the most depressing comedy I have ever heard, but you laugh until you cry.

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Tue Aug 01, 2017 6:49 pm

Ralph-Wiggum wrote:
El Guapo wrote:Apparently Wheeler has a screenshot of a text from the relevant Fox News person saying that Trump personally reviewed the Seth Rich story and wants it published.
The Fox News person has claimed that email was a joke.

He wasn't just a Fox commentator. He paid for the PI (Wheeler) on behalf of the dead guy's family. Essentially he created the whole conspiracy. All to try to show that the DNC email hack wasn't Russian but rather leaked from Rich.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Tue Aug 01, 2017 8:00 pm

Oh Snap!

$iljanus · Post by **$iljanus** » Tue Aug 01, 2017 9:48 pm

Holman wrote:Oh Snap!

Then why doesn't he just fucking resign already?

Max Peck · Post by **Max Peck** » Tue Aug 01, 2017 10:00 pm

A Scout Is Trustworthy—but Is the President?

In President Trump’s remarkable speech to the Boy Scout’s quadrennial Jamboree, he began to recite the Scout Law, making it through just the first two principles in the list: “As the Scout Law says: ‘A Scout is trustworthy, loyal.’”

Remarkably, he seems to have gotten both virtues backward in the process.

Last week, I observed that he was offering an inverted definition of loyalty:
When Trump paused at “loyal”—when he interjected, “we could use some more loyalty”—I was stunned. This is the president who told James Comey, “I expect loyalty.” Over the weekend, he’d inveighed against Republicans who “do very little to protect their President.” And there he was, looking out at a sea of Scouts, telling them that “Boy Scout values are American values,” apparently unaware that his own definition of loyalty—something that he himself is owed—is precisely the opposite of the definition those Scouts are taught to embrace—something that we owe to others.
After several days of controversy, Chief Scout Executive Michael Surbaugh issued a statement distancing the Scouts from the president’s decision to inject overt partisanship into an apolitical gathering. “I want to extend my sincere apologies to those in our Scouting family who were offended by the political rhetoric that was inserted into the jamboree. That was never our intent,” he wrote, adding that “We sincerely regret that politics were inserted into the Scouting program.”

But this afternoon, Politico published a transcript of Trump’s July 25 interview with The Wall Street Journal. They asked him about the mixed reaction to his speech, and he objected:
I got a call from the head of the Boy Scouts saying it was the greatest speech that was ever made to them, and they were very thankful. So there was — there was no mix.
How to reconcile that with the strongly worded statement from the Scouts?

The Boy Scouts of America responded to the claim, simply, “The Chief Scout Executive’s message to the Scouting community speaks for itself.” A Boy Scout official said they’re not aware of any call from their national leadership to the White House.

A Scout is trustworthy. But the president?

Is that a rhetorical question? It seems like a rhetorical question...

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Tue Aug 01, 2017 10:14 pm

Holman wrote:Oh Snap!

Let us pause, once again, and consider the absolute raging shitstorm that Fox News would unleash if Obama or Hillary had ever dared to say such a thing.

But from Trump? Crickets...

hentzau · Post by **hentzau** » Tue Aug 01, 2017 10:17 pm

Max Peck wrote:A Scout Is Trustworthy—but Is the President?
In President Trump’s remarkable speech to the Boy Scout’s quadrennial Jamboree, he began to recite the Scout Law, making it through just the first two principles in the list: “As the Scout Law says: ‘A Scout is trustworthy, loyal.’”

Remarkably, he seems to have gotten both virtues backward in the process.

Last week, I observed that he was offering an inverted definition of loyalty:
When Trump paused at “loyal”—when he interjected, “we could use some more loyalty”—I was stunned. This is the president who told James Comey, “I expect loyalty.” Over the weekend, he’d inveighed against Republicans who “do very little to protect their President.” And there he was, looking out at a sea of Scouts, telling them that “Boy Scout values are American values,” apparently unaware that his own definition of loyalty—something that he himself is owed—is precisely the opposite of the definition those Scouts are taught to embrace—something that we owe to others.
After several days of controversy, Chief Scout Executive Michael Surbaugh issued a statement distancing the Scouts from the president’s decision to inject overt partisanship into an apolitical gathering. “I want to extend my sincere apologies to those in our Scouting family who were offended by the political rhetoric that was inserted into the jamboree. That was never our intent,” he wrote, adding that “We sincerely regret that politics were inserted into the Scouting program.”

But this afternoon, Politico published a transcript of Trump’s July 25 interview with The Wall Street Journal. They asked him about the mixed reaction to his speech, and he objected:
I got a call from the head of the Boy Scouts saying it was the greatest speech that was ever made to them, and they were very thankful. So there was — there was no mix.
How to reconcile that with the strongly worded statement from the Scouts?

The Boy Scouts of America responded to the claim, simply, “The Chief Scout Executive’s message to the Scouting community speaks for itself.” A Boy Scout official said they’re not aware of any call from their national leadership to the White House.

A Scout is trustworthy. But the president?
Is that a rhetorical question? It seems like a rhetorical question...

Happy National Eagle Scout Day. Ya orange faced prick.

tgb · Post by **tgb** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 6:54 am

Stay classy, Fuckhead.

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 8:55 am

"The White House is a real dump"

Well, it is since January, anyway.

Zarathud · Post by **Zarathud** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 9:18 am

LordMortis wrote:"The White House is a real dumpster fire"

Well, it is since January, anyway.

Fixed that for you.

tgb · Post by **tgb** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 9:43 am

If it will make y'all feel better, the LIC has adult supervision.

President Donald Trump can’t be left alone to make decisions regarding matters of national security—at least, that is reportedly the view of his new chief of staff, John Kelly, and of his defense secretary, James Mattis.

The two military men, who Trump affectionately refers to as "my generals," hatched a plan during the initial months of his presidency to ensure he wasn’t left alone while in the U.S., the Associated Press reported Tuesday. Kelly and Mattis agreed to schedule their travel arrangements so at least one of them could be physically accessible to the new president at all times, an official with knowledge of the pact said.

Carpet_pissr · Post by **Carpet_pissr** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 10:11 am

Re-hire Scaramouche! The leaks continue!

Max Peck · Post by **Max Peck** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 10:38 am

tgb wrote:If it will make y'all feel better, the LIC has adult supervision.

President Donald Trump can’t be left alone to make decisions regarding matters of national security—at least, that is reportedly the view of his new chief of staff, John Kelly, and of his defense secretary, James Mattis.

The two military men, who Trump affectionately refers to as "my generals," hatched a plan during the initial months of his presidency to ensure he wasn’t left alone while in the U.S., the Associated Press reported Tuesday. Kelly and Mattis agreed to schedule their travel arrangements so at least one of them could be physically accessible to the new president at all times, an official with knowledge of the pact said.

Given Trump's vulnerability to manipulation, it's entirely possible that this story has been planted by someone in the administration seeking to undermine the influence of Kelly and Mattis.

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 10:52 am

Max Peck wrote:
tgb wrote:If it will make y'all feel better, the LIC has adult supervision.

President Donald Trump can’t be left alone to make decisions regarding matters of national security—at least, that is reportedly the view of his new chief of staff, John Kelly, and of his defense secretary, James Mattis.

The two military men, who Trump affectionately refers to as "my generals," hatched a plan during the initial months of his presidency to ensure he wasn’t left alone while in the U.S., the Associated Press reported Tuesday. Kelly and Mattis agreed to schedule their travel arrangements so at least one of them could be physically accessible to the new president at all times, an official with knowledge of the pact said.
Given Trump's vulnerability to manipulation, it's entirely possible that this story has been planted by someone in the administration seeking to undermine the influence of Kelly and Mattis.

The latest plant:

According to a source close to the President, the President has a contingency plan to oust the President if the President feels the President is undermining his authority. The Trump refused to comment, stating that he did not comment on unfounded rumors. Trump, however, did comment, stating that "the winner of the greatest electoral landslide in history" has a mandate from the people and that the mandate was "not to let a piece of paper like the Constitution keep America from the greatness it was founded on by our ancestors."

Malificent · Post by **Malificent** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 11:02 am

LawBeefaroni wrote:
Max Peck wrote:
tgb wrote:If it will make y'all feel better, the LIC has adult supervision.

President Donald Trump can’t be left alone to make decisions regarding matters of national security—at least, that is reportedly the view of his new chief of staff, John Kelly, and of his defense secretary, James Mattis.

The two military men, who Trump affectionately refers to as "my generals," hatched a plan during the initial months of his presidency to ensure he wasn’t left alone while in the U.S., the Associated Press reported Tuesday. Kelly and Mattis agreed to schedule their travel arrangements so at least one of them could be physically accessible to the new president at all times, an official with knowledge of the pact said.
Given Trump's vulnerability to manipulation, it's entirely possible that this story has been planted by someone in the administration seeking to undermine the influence of Kelly and Mattis.
The latest plant:
According to a source close to the President, the President has a contingency plan to oust the President if the President feels the President is undermining his authority. The Trump refused to comment, stating that he did not comment on unfounded rumors. Trump, however, did comment, stating that "the winner of the greatest electoral landslide in history" has a mandate from the people and that the mandate was "not to let a piece of paper like the Constitution keep America from the greatness it was founded on by our ancestors."

Where's the link to the Onion?

tgb · Post by **tgb** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 11:33 am

Max Peck wrote:
tgb wrote:If it will make y'all feel better, the LIC has adult supervision.

President Donald Trump can’t be left alone to make decisions regarding matters of national security—at least, that is reportedly the view of his new chief of staff, John Kelly, and of his defense secretary, James Mattis.

The two military men, who Trump affectionately refers to as "my generals," hatched a plan during the initial months of his presidency to ensure he wasn’t left alone while in the U.S., the Associated Press reported Tuesday. Kelly and Mattis agreed to schedule their travel arrangements so at least one of them could be physically accessible to the new president at all times, an official with knowledge of the pact said.
Given Trump's vulnerability to manipulation, it's entirely possible that this story has been planted by someone in the administration seeking to undermine the influence of Kelly and Mattis.

I wonder who that would be? <cough>Bannon<cough>

Captain Caveman · Post by **Captain Caveman** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 11:33 am

So Trump signed the Russia sanctions bill, and put out this amazing statement to accompany it:

https://twitter.com/ZekeJMiller/status/ ... 0449465344

The bill remains seriously flawed – particularly because it encroaches on the executive branch’s authority to negotiate. Congress could not even negotiate a healthcare bill after seven years of talking.

I built a truly great company worth many billions of dollars. That is a big part of the reason I was elected. As President, I can make far better deals with foreign countries than Congress.

Carpet_pissr · Post by **Carpet_pissr** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 11:40 am

I guess the nefarious plan is working. I read that and was totally unsurprised. Almost no emotional reaction. I'm so desensitized to the daily bullshit and amateurishness of this administration that it's totally numbed me.

Make America Grate (our teeth).

Octavious · Post by **Octavious** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 11:40 am

It wasn't that bad until I got to the last line and then I wanted to punch my monitor. God he's such a fucking sack of shit.

Octavious · Post by **Octavious** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 11:45 am

Texted a brief part of this to my wife and my phone autocorrect Trump to "the rump". I think I might just call him that from now on.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 11:48 am

He's so transparent. Basically, "I am happy to impose sanctions on Iran and North Korea. I really don't want to impose sanctions on Russia, but I am going to sign this anyway, because of national unity because it was passed by veto-proof majorities and so I would just get overruled if I did."

Post by **ImLawBoy** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 11:54 am

Through the first four paragraphs, I was thinking, "This isn't so bad. Who wrote this for him?"

Then I read the rest of it.

Octavious · Post by **Octavious** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 11:56 am

Personally I was hoping he would veto it. Someone must of stopped him.

Captain Caveman · Post by **Captain Caveman** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:00 pm

I love that his implicit argument seems to be, "We all agree that Congress is inept. Wouldn't things be better if I could I just be a dictator?"

Paingod · Post by **Paingod** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:00 pm

Captain Caveman wrote:So Trump signed the Russia sanctions bill, and put out this amazing statement to accompany it:
The Rump wrote:Putie baby, I'm sorry. They tell me I can't play with you today, but I really want to. Call me, K? 8==D XXX

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:00 pm

I built a truly great company worth many billions of dollars. That is a big part of the reason I was elected. As President, I can make far better deals with foreign countries than Congress.

He actually wrote that in a WH press release. Jesus Christ...

Paingod · Post by **Paingod** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:09 pm

Skinypupy wrote:
I built a truly great company worth many billions of dollars. That is a big part of the reason I was elected. As President, I can make far better deals with foreign countries than Congress.
He actually wrote that in a WH press release. Jesus Christ...

Be thankful that they pulled the paper away from him before he could go into his electoral win, damned Clinton, fake news, and nothingburger investigation.

Octavious · Post by **Octavious** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:09 pm

They should have another bill that makes someone have to approve anything official he writes.

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:21 pm

Captain Caveman wrote:
I built a truly great company worth many billions of dollars. That is a big part of the reason I was elected. As President, I can make far better deals with foreign countries than Congress.

Even in Trump's fantasy world where accumulation of wealth of the individual is the barometer of negotiating ability, Putin would eat his lunch for breakfast at dinner. And then crap it out and spoon feed it to Trump with some vodka. Taking the most inflated version of Trump's net worth with the lowest for Putin, he's still 10 times "better."

He can't even maintain consistency in the universe of his own making. Dude is plain crazy.

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:26 pm

I love it that he is dissing "Congress" not just the Democrats...

Max Peck · Post by **Max Peck** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:35 pm

tgb wrote:
Max Peck wrote:
tgb wrote:If it will make y'all feel better, the LIC has adult supervision.

President Donald Trump can’t be left alone to make decisions regarding matters of national security—at least, that is reportedly the view of his new chief of staff, John Kelly, and of his defense secretary, James Mattis.

The two military men, who Trump affectionately refers to as "my generals," hatched a plan during the initial months of his presidency to ensure he wasn’t left alone while in the U.S., the Associated Press reported Tuesday. Kelly and Mattis agreed to schedule their travel arrangements so at least one of them could be physically accessible to the new president at all times, an official with knowledge of the pact said.
Given Trump's vulnerability to manipulation, it's entirely possible that this story has been planted by someone in the administration seeking to undermine the influence of Kelly and Mattis.
I wonder who that would be? <cough>Bannon<cough>

I'd have to go digging to find the article again, but I've read that Kelly wasn't wasn't Jarvanka's first choice as the new CoS.

tgb · Post by **tgb** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:35 pm

Forget what I posted about adult supervision.