The Former Trump Presidency Thread

pr0ner · Post by **pr0ner** » Wed Sep 27, 2017 8:26 am

No need for this now after Lawbeef's edit.

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Wed Sep 27, 2017 8:33 am

tjg_marantz wrote:Can someone fix my post? I can't even edit. Yay mobile

Done.

Good video.

pr0ner · Post by **pr0ner** » Wed Sep 27, 2017 8:34 am

LOL.

Trump is deleting some of his tweets supporting Luther Strange now that Strange has lost to Roy Moore in Alabama.

Rip · Post by **Rip** » Wed Sep 27, 2017 8:36 am

pr0ner wrote:LOL.

Trump is deleting some of his tweets supporting Luther Strange now that Strange has lost to Roy Moore in Alabama.

Some staffer tweeted that stuff. Trump supported Moore all along........

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Wed Sep 27, 2017 8:50 am

So Trump deleted his praise for Strange's "loyalty" to him?

That's... perfect.

Paingod · Post by **Paingod** » Wed Sep 27, 2017 8:59 am

Loyalty is only useful when you win. If you're a loser, you're out.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Wed Sep 27, 2017 9:19 am

Kurth wrote:
malchior wrote:On a personal note I was at a random Fox and Hound for MNF last night in NC. Several people stood for the anthem, hands on hearts, hats off. And then stared down the rest of us with eyes of judgement for not participating. It was fucking creepy. There are a lot of very malleable minds out there. Hoping to impose their very angry worldview on others. I find it comforting that Trump is a huge fucking moron and hasn't truly capitalized on that. We could be in far worse trouble I think. But that is short-term comfort.
I've never heard of a Fox & Hound, so I had to google it to see it's a sports bar chain (incidentally, I found out it's also an "Unassuming gay bar providing a comfortable environment for drinks, pool, pub fare & drag shows" in downtown Portland).

I cannot comprehend people making such an ostentatious show of faux-patriotism in a public place and acting indignant when others didn't follow suit. To me, that's so over the top it's beyond creepy. That shit scares the hell out of me and really does make me feel like we're at the point of us/them in this country where a good portion of the population is completely and totally alien to me.

I would have been tempted to kneel and shout out that I was protesting their idiocy. I wouldn't have done it because I can't fight well one v one let alone one v many but I would have been tempted.

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Wed Sep 27, 2017 9:36 am

I'm sure Trump will also mention that he knew that Strange was a loser. He did throw him under the bus at the rally on Friday after all.

Vorret · Post by **Vorret** » Wed Sep 27, 2017 10:32 am

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/bombard ... -1.4308590

I sure hope we retaliate somehow to that ridiculous bullshit

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Wed Sep 27, 2017 10:41 am

Rip wrote:
pr0ner wrote:LOL.

Trump is deleting some of his tweets supporting Luther Strange now that Strange has lost to Roy Moore in Alabama.
Some staffer tweeted that stuff. Trump supported Moore all along........

He always supports the winner after the competition has ended! Anything you see from him that says otherwise is FAKE NEWS!

tgb · Post by **tgb** » Wed Sep 27, 2017 10:58 am

tjg_marantz wrote:Check out @Blueraydre’s Tweet:.

Who is that? Boy, he's good.

Carpet_pissr · Post by **Carpet_pissr** » Wed Sep 27, 2017 10:59 am

Remus West wrote:I would have been tempted to kneel and shout out that I was protesting their idiocy. I wouldn't have done it because I can't fight well one v one let alone one v many but I would have been tempted.

More of a team fighter, are ye?

Carpet_pissr · Post by **Carpet_pissr** » Wed Sep 27, 2017 11:06 am

tgb wrote:
tjg_marantz wrote:Check out @Blueraydre’s Tweet:.

Who is that? Boy, he's good.

Awesome, thanks for posting that.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Wed Sep 27, 2017 11:06 am

tgb wrote:
tjg_marantz wrote:Check out @Blueraydre’s Tweet:.

Who is that? Boy, he's good.

Nick Wright.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Wed Sep 27, 2017 11:11 am

Jeff Sessions just said the NFL should have a rule requiring players to stand for the national anthem.

In a way, it would be interesting to see something like that implemented. Protesting players could easily find ways to protest while standing. Would Sessions call for ever-more-elaborate rules against raised fists? Certain facial expressions? Foot-tapping?

tjg_marantz · Post by **tjg_marantz** » Wed Sep 27, 2017 11:12 am

LawBeefaroni wrote:
tjg_marantz wrote:Can someone fix my post? I can't even edit. Yay mobile
Done.

Good video.

Thanks for the edit.

Jeff V · Post by **Jeff V** » Wed Sep 27, 2017 11:14 am

Holman wrote:Jeff Sessions just said the NFL should have a rule requiring players to stand for the national anthem.

In a way, it would be interesting to see something like that implemented. Protesting players could easily find ways to protest while standing. Would Sessions call for ever-more-elaborate rules against raised fists? Certain facial expressions? Foot-tapping?

I vote for pants dropping.

Why would the NFL implement such a thing when the owners and commissioner are supportive of the players? Everyone in the Trump regime is flapping their pie hole with blinders on and earplugs shoved so far up their ear canals they touch in the vacant space where their brains ought to be.

Kurth · Post by **Kurth** » Wed Sep 27, 2017 11:24 am

100% agreed. And that guy is Nick Wright from Fox Sports 1.

noxiousdog · Post by **noxiousdog** » Wed Sep 27, 2017 11:45 am

Kurth wrote:100% agreed. And that guy is Nick Wright from Fox Sports 1.

He was a radio guy here in Houston. He can be a bit of a loudmouth (obviously not in this clip), but I've always liked him. He is very ambitious and moved to LA as soon as he got a job there.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:33 pm

He. Can't. Stop. Lying.

At a joint White House press conference with Spanish Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy, Trump described the challenges faced by the U.S. territory in the aftermath of the storm but touted the work being done to bring "water, food and supplies" to the island.

"Everybody has said, it's amazing the job we have done in Puerto Rico," said Trump. "We're very proud of it."

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Wed Sep 27, 2017 5:17 pm

Vorret wrote:http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/bombard ... -1.4308590

I sure hope we retaliate somehow to that ridiculous bullshit

Wow this is crazy. We don't even have an alternative airplane to offer. What a crock of shit. I'm constantly embarrassed by how shady my country has become.

Kurth · Post by **Kurth** » Wed Sep 27, 2017 5:21 pm

Holman wrote:He. Can't. Stop. Lying.

At a joint White House press conference with Spanish Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy, Trump described the challenges faced by the U.S. territory in the aftermath of the storm but touted the work being done to bring "water, food and supplies" to the island.

"Everybody has said, it's amazing the job we have done in Puerto Rico," said Trump. "We're very proud of it."

I listened to that press conference, and it was MOTS. 90% of Trump's comments were about all the praise he and his administration have received from the Governor of Puerto Rico and the Puerto Rican people about what a great job he is doing.

Kurth · Post by **Kurth** » Wed Sep 27, 2017 5:36 pm

So guess what? There are some Angry NFL fans burning jerseys in rage over teams' support of protests

But come on. I'm sorry, "Former Raiders fan Bob," but you're not making much of a bold statement by burning your JaMarcus Russell jersey.

Max Peck · Post by **Max Peck** » Wed Sep 27, 2017 6:02 pm

Meanwhile, in non-sportsball news...

Trump administration tells court law does not ban bias against gay workers

A Trump administration lawyer on Tuesday urged a U.S. appeals court in Manhattan to rule that federal law does not ban discrimination against gay employees.

The U.S. Department of Justice is supporting a New York skydiving company, Altitude Express Inc, in a lawsuit brought by former instructor Donald Zarda, who accused the company of firing him after he told a customer he was gay and she complained. Zarda died in a BASE-jumping accident after filing the lawsuit, and his estate took over the case.

Judges on the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals focused their questions on whether discrimination against gay workers is a form of unlawful sex bias under Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. That law bans discrimination based on workers’ sex, race, religion and other traits.

Justice Department lawyer Hashim Mooppan told the court that Congress never intended for that law to protect gay workers against bias. And in recent years, he said, lawmakers have repeatedly declined to pass bills that would prohibit employment discrimination against gay workers.

During the Obama administration, the Justice Department had not weighed in on the case. But the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, which appeared at Tuesday’s hearing on behalf of Zarda’s estate, has been arguing for five years that bias against gay workers violates the law. The EEOC is an independent federal agency that enforces Title VII.

Max Peck · Post by **Max Peck** » Wed Sep 27, 2017 6:16 pm

Trump explains why Sudan has been removed from the latest iteration of the travel ban:

pr0ner · Post by **pr0ner** » Wed Sep 27, 2017 6:21 pm

POTUS wrote:Derp derp derp, derpy derp

That's about all that amounts to, really.

Max Peck · Post by **Max Peck** » Wed Sep 27, 2017 6:35 pm

What DPRK_News tweeted:

Donald Trump travel ban against DPRK citizens expected to affect dozen of visitors.

What DPRK_News should have tweeted:

Donald Trump wants toughest travel he can have. The travel ban of Kim Jong-Un is far more tough.

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Wed Sep 27, 2017 9:43 pm

The Trump administration still hasn't waived Jones act restrictions that are delaying aid to Puerto Rico. He is claiming the shippers don't want him to waive the restrictions. You can't make this level of mendacity up.

The Mayor of San Juan said that people died because there was no diesel to fuel generators at a hospital in San Juan. This is Katrina again but it isn't getting the coverage yet because literally no one can really even get there.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Thu Sep 28, 2017 8:07 am

Failing the hurricane test isn't even political. It's Trump's callousness, incompetence, dereliction, inability... everything we know that makes him not only unfit but incapable of his job.

And now Americans are literally dying because of it.

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Thu Sep 28, 2017 8:15 am

malchior wrote:The Trump administration still hasn't waived Jones act restrictions that are delaying aid to Puerto Rico. He is claiming the shippers don't want him to waive the restrictions. You can't make this level of mendacity up.

I was reading up on this last night, and while I wouldn't put it past Trump to be doing something awful, I'm not sure that this particular decision really has much effect. From a Reuters article:

The Department of Homeland Security, which waived the act after hurricanes Harvey and Irma, did not agree an exemption would help this time.

On Monday, U.S. Representative Nydia Velázquez and seven other representatives asked Elaine Duke, acting head of Homeland Security, to waive the nearly 100-year-old shipping law for a year to help Puerto Rico recover from Hurricane Maria.Gregory Moore, a spokesman for Customs and Border Protection, an office of Homeland Security, said in a statement that an assessment by the agency showed there was “sufficient capacity” of U.S.-flagged vessels to move commodities to Puerto Rico.

“The limitation is going to be port capacity to offload and transit, not vessel availability,” Moore said.

Sounds to me like it's more of a logistics issue due to the port suffering extreme damage, and not necessarily the availability of ships to get in and out.

That said, the fact it's being ignored entirely by Trump in favor of calling out the NFL is vile.

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Thu Sep 28, 2017 8:25 am

Skinypupy wrote:I was reading up on this last night, and while I wouldn't put it past Trump to be doing something awful, I'm not sure that this particular decision really has much effect. From a Reuters article:

The Department of Homeland Security, which waived the act after hurricanes Harvey and Irma, did not agree an exemption would help this time.

On Monday, U.S. Representative Nydia Velázquez and seven other representatives asked Elaine Duke, acting head of Homeland Security, to waive the nearly 100-year-old shipping law for a year to help Puerto Rico recover from Hurricane Maria.Gregory Moore, a spokesman for Customs and Border Protection, an office of Homeland Security, said in a statement that an assessment by the agency showed there was “sufficient capacity” of U.S.-flagged vessels to move commodities to Puerto Rico.

“The limitation is going to be port capacity to offload and transit, not vessel availability,” Moore said.

That is all well and good but the President was arguing that he was weighing the concerns of the shippers. In effect, hey I don't want to upset these guys profits. It doesn't matter if it might not help or not. You try. What happens if they waive it and it does nothing? Some shippers take a small hit. Big deal. If it works, it saves lives. This is an easy call.

On top of that we have the NFL comments and the debt comments. These are all indicators that Trump isn't pulling out all the stops to help fellow citizens suffering a complete disaster. And that is unacceptable.

Max Peck · Post by **Max Peck** » Thu Sep 28, 2017 8:35 am

That law may not be hindering immediate aid (if you can't believe DHS, who can you believe?), but it certainly doesn't seem to help Puerto Rico under the best of circumstances.

Thanks to the law, the price of goods from the United States mainland is at least double that in neighboring islands, including the United States Virgin Islands, which are not covered by the Jones Act. Moreover, the cost of living in Puerto Rico is 13 percent higher than in 325 urban areas elsewhere in the United States, even though per capita income in Puerto Rico is about $18,000, close to half that of Mississippi, the poorest of all 50 states.

KKBlue · Post by **KKBlue** » Thu Sep 28, 2017 9:13 am

tjg_marantz wrote:Check out @Blueraydre’s Tweet:

Check out the video. He puts it exactly how it is. Hopefully some people here will listen to what is said.

Thank you! xoxo

stessier wrote:Nick Wright.

Thank you. xoxo

tjg_marantz · Post by **tjg_marantz** » Thu Sep 28, 2017 9:31 am

Apparently the act was lifted. Says it was announced on Twitter but it certainly wasn't on his account so must be another government account of some kind. Probably doesn't want his bar to see the flip-flop.

Puerto Rico: Trump lifts shipping ban for storm-hit island - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41431138

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Thu Sep 28, 2017 9:33 am

Won't someone think of the shipping industry??

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Thu Sep 28, 2017 10:05 am

If I understand correctly, lifting the ban also allows shipments from neighboring islands now, not just from US ports. Seems like it would allow quicker response to specific needs in some cases.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Thu Sep 28, 2017 10:30 am

LawBeefaroni wrote:If I understand correctly, lifting the ban also allows shipments from neighboring islands now, not just from US ports. Seems like it would allow quicker response to specific needs in some cases.

The important thing is that this hasn't derailed Trump's fight against protesters.

In an interview on Fox, he claims to have talked privately to NFL owners and says they are "afraid of their players."

pr0ner · Post by **pr0ner** » Thu Sep 28, 2017 10:49 am

Trump also claimed in that interview you can't dance in the end zone and that there are bans on wearing pink for breast cancer awareness.

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » Thu Sep 28, 2017 10:57 am

Trump administration forcing Puerto Rico evacuees to pay for airfare: report

The Trump administration is reportedly forcing evacuees from Puerto Rico to sign promissory notes ensuring full repayment for transportation costs and is keeping evacuees' passports as collateral.

MarketWatch reported on Thursday that the State Department is using a longstanding but discretionary policy to ensure that evacuees pay transportation costs, which are based on “the price of the last commercial one-way, full-fare (not discounted) economy ticket prior to the crisis.”

Passports won't be returned to evacuees until payment is received, according to the news outlet, which cited the State Department's website.

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Thu Sep 28, 2017 11:54 am

Holman wrote:Jeff Sessions just said the NFL should have a rule requiring players to stand for the national anthem.

My understanding is that he did it during a speech about how great free speech is at universities and such.