The Former Trump Presidency Thread

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Thu Sep 28, 2017 11:57 am

Holman wrote:In an interview on Fox, he claims to have talked privately to NFL owners and says they are "afraid of their players."

That dog whistle just blew out my ear drums.

Carpet_pissr · Post by **Carpet_pissr** » Thu Sep 28, 2017 12:11 pm

GreenGoo wrote:
Holman wrote:Jeff Sessions just said the NFL should have a rule requiring players to stand for the national anthem.

The USA should have a rule requiring applicants' full disclosure when filling out security clearance forms for high level office. Oh, wait...

PLW · Post by **PLW** » Thu Sep 28, 2017 1:04 pm

malchior wrote:
Holman wrote:In an interview on Fox, he claims to have talked privately to NFL owners and says they are "afraid of their players."
That dog whistle just blew out my ear drums.

Seriously... I'm just waiting for him to call them cucks.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Thu Sep 28, 2017 1:06 pm

PLW wrote:
malchior wrote:
Holman wrote:In an interview on Fox, he claims to have talked privately to NFL owners and says they are "afraid of their players."
That dog whistle just blew out my ear drums.
Seriously... I'm just waiting for him to call them cucks.

My money is on "uppity."

PLW · Post by **PLW** » Thu Sep 28, 2017 1:08 pm

Sorry... the owners are the cucks, for letting their players get uppity.

Pyperkub · Post by **Pyperkub** » Thu Sep 28, 2017 1:40 pm

Holman wrote:
LawBeefaroni wrote:If I understand correctly, lifting the ban also allows shipments from neighboring islands now, not just from US ports. Seems like it would allow quicker response to specific needs in some cases.
The important thing is that this hasn't derailed Trump's fight against protesters.

In an interview on Fox, he claims to have talked privately to NFL owners and says they are "afraid of their players."

To be clear, is the "he" here, Trump?

noxiousdog · Post by **noxiousdog** » Thu Sep 28, 2017 2:40 pm

Of course they are afraid of their players. If the players unified under a cause they could ruin the NFL. They are already planning for a strike/lockout in 2021.

This is not much different than any industry with a strong union, though in this case, the owners are afraid of the NFLPA turning into a strong union.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Thu Sep 28, 2017 2:46 pm

noxiousdog wrote:Of course they are afraid of their players. If the players unified under a cause they could ruin the NFL. They are already planning for a strike/lockout in 2021.

This is not much different than any industry with a strong union, though in this case, the owners are afraid of the NFLPA turning into a strong union.

That's probably what Trump meant.

noxiousdog · Post by **noxiousdog** » Thu Sep 28, 2017 3:42 pm

El Guapo wrote:
noxiousdog wrote:Of course they are afraid of their players. If the players unified under a cause they could ruin the NFL. They are already planning for a strike/lockout in 2021.

This is not much different than any industry with a strong union, though in this case, the owners are afraid of the NFLPA turning into a strong union.
That's probably what Trump meant.

It's not what he meant, but I'm sure that's what he was told. 8 of the owners donated over a million dollars to his campaign. They absolutely told him to shut his mouth.

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Thu Sep 28, 2017 3:42 pm

Lol.

Nox, are you suggesting Drumpf was talking about fear of the players unified economic power?

Because that would be hilarious if that's what you think he felt the need to comment on.

Edit:. So it's not what he meant? I'm confused.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Thu Sep 28, 2017 8:54 pm

EDIT: Ooops. This is older. I misread the source.

link

It will probably get deleted. Here's the text:

Donald Trump wrote:Every time I speak of the haters and losers I do so with great love and affection. They cannot help the fact that they were born fucked up!

tgb · Post by **tgb** » Thu Sep 28, 2017 9:00 pm

Holman wrote:
link

It will probably get deleted. Here's the text:

Donald Trump wrote:Every time I speak of the haters and losers I do so with great love and affection. They cannot help the fact that they were born fucked up!

Looks like that's a few years old.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Thu Sep 28, 2017 9:02 pm

Sorry, just realized that. I posted too soon.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Fri Sep 29, 2017 9:35 am

GreenGoo wrote:Lol.

Nox, are you suggesting Drumpf was talking about fear of the players unified economic power?

Because that would be hilarious if that's what you think he felt the need to comment on.

Edit:. So it's not what he meant? I'm confused.

If I read Nox correctly he is saying that the owners told Trump they are afraid of them unifying economically. Trump then took it to mean a general fear - or simply chose to portray it that way because that serves his (Trump's) current narrative.

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Fri Sep 29, 2017 9:40 am

His intended takeaway: if even rich powerful white guys are scared of these uppity thugs who have declared war on our flag, you're right to fear them too.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Fri Sep 29, 2017 9:47 am

LawBeefaroni wrote:His intended takeaway: if even rich powerful white guys are scared of these uppity thugs who have declared war on our flag, you're right to fear them too.

This is the line of crap he is selling.

Captain Caveman · Post by **Captain Caveman** » Sat Sep 30, 2017 8:03 am

Trump went on a tweet-rant this morning from the cozy confines of his golf club, attacking the mayor of San Juan and claiming that workers in Puerto Rico are lazy and what “everything done for them”.

The blatant racism of this asshole never ceases to astound.

Chaz · Post by **Chaz** » Sat Sep 30, 2017 8:12 am

And he's still going. Now it's the news networks that are lying about Puerto Rico, because the response has been great. His only concern is that people are lying to make him and the first responders look bad. He's literally saying that everyone in Puerto Rico, including the local government, is lying about how the recovery effort is going because they're too lazy to do the work themselves and want it for free, and to make him look bad. This man is a walking bag of sewage.

He's also referred to himself in the third person twice.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Sat Sep 30, 2017 8:34 am

Trump is pathological about criticism. Everything Trump does must be declared the greatest in history, and anyone who thinks otherwise is an enemy. His unwillingness to throw the focus of the presidency behind the hurricane effort is his deranged way of believing that it's already perfect.

Americans are literally dying from his narcissism now.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Sat Sep 30, 2017 8:47 am

Just saw the morning's tweets.

He says Puerto Ricans are too lazy to work on recovery. He says the mayor of San Juan is against him because the Democrats told her she had to be. He says the American media is actively working to undermine the morale of the military. He is denying the reality of the crisis.

There's no way to fully express this man's petty viciousness.

Heckuva job, Trump voters.

EDIT: Matthew Yglesias nailed it: because Trump doesn't know how to lead and basically doesn't care about other people, he thinks the smart political play is to make this about lazy brown people and their media enablers disrespecting the military and first responders.

He thinks this crisis is another campaign speech.

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Sat Sep 30, 2017 8:56 am

Holman wrote:Just saw the morning's tweets.

There's no way to fully express this man's petty viciousness.

The man is doing it himself - he is creating a potentially perfect nearly eternal record for all time of one of the worst people ever to govern a nation. He is a disaster as a leader and a human being and in perhaps 50 years there will be no one who will look back and think about how great he was. They'll only know how utterly terrible, reprehensible, and evil he was. I can live with that as long as we all do.

tjg_marantz · Post by **tjg_marantz** » Sat Sep 30, 2017 9:50 am

For posterity

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Sat Sep 30, 2017 10:02 am

tjg_marantz wrote:For posterity

Yesterday Trump made a promise that "we will not rest" until the people of PR are safe.

This morning he tweeted the above from his golf course in New Jersey.

Hamlet3145 · Post by **Hamlet3145** » Sat Sep 30, 2017 10:09 am

I hate him.

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Sat Sep 30, 2017 10:11 am

Every time I think we can't possibly get lower...

Christ, what an asshole.

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Sat Sep 30, 2017 10:52 am

Come on Karma, he's old. It would be so easy...

em2nought · Post by **em2nought** » Sat Sep 30, 2017 10:56 am

Too bad we can't sell Puerto Rico to Taiwan. Those guys know how to run an island, and they don't mind relocating.

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Sat Sep 30, 2017 11:05 am

Whelp, I suppose that answers the question of whether this particular display of awfulness would do anything to give the racist diehards even a moment's pause.

Not that there was much question, unfortunately.

Kraken · Post by **Kraken** » Sat Sep 30, 2017 11:08 am

malchior wrote: one of the worst people ever to govern a nation. He is a disaster as a leader and a human being

I agree with your second statement, but he's still small potatoes compared to Pol Pot, Stalin, and that club. He's certainly in the running to be the worst ever to govern this nation, but even there he still has a ways to go. Objectively speaking, he's had very little practical impact so far.

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Sat Sep 30, 2017 11:14 am

Deep breath.

Stop.

Think.

Put aside the fact he's an awful human being...we already know that and it's been demonstrated time and time again.

What's he distracting from today?

Freyland · Post by **Freyland** » Sat Sep 30, 2017 11:53 am

Skinypupy wrote:Deep breath.

Stop.

Think.

Put aside the fact he's an awful human being...we already know that and it's been demonstrated time and time again.

What's he distracting from today?

Taxes. Greater long term impact than the Puerto Rican crisis, and Reuters reported yesterday that the present plan clearly benefits the rich.

Enough · Post by **Enough** » Sat Sep 30, 2017 12:20 pm

Trump is probably in the clubhouse at his Bedminster golf club watching the President's Cup on tv and tweeted this at a nation where 60% are homeless after the hurricane. It's been said, but what a freaking asshole.

Rip · Post by **Rip** » Sat Sep 30, 2017 12:21 pm

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Sat Sep 30, 2017 12:32 pm

And your point is...?

Enough · Post by **Enough** » Sat Sep 30, 2017 12:37 pm

Skinypupy wrote:And your point is...?

He's putting that out there so when the media now pays attention to PR all the credit will go to Trump having the foresight to make it salient via rage-tweeting on it. Gaslighting for good!

Rip · Post by **Rip** » Sat Sep 30, 2017 12:57 pm

My point is the media doesn't give a crap about Puerto Rico beyond any ammunition they can get to attack Trump.

I can give the San Juan mayor credit for at least that. She knew her pleads would fall on deaf ears unless she also attacked Trump. Shrewd and effective.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Sat Sep 30, 2017 1:18 pm

Oh for fuck's sake, Rip.

The media is not the enemy here. The enemy is environmental and infrastructural devastation. The enemy is lack of medicine and food and clean water. The enemy is cholera. The enemy is raw human suffering that could be prevented by the greatest nation in the world if it applied its resources with sufficient leadership.

Trump can't understand any of that because he's an idiot and a villain and mentally ill, and he sees nothing beyond the boundaries of his own petty vindictiveness. Are you saying you're no better than Trump?

Rip · Post by **Rip** » Sat Sep 30, 2017 1:26 pm

Holman wrote:Oh for fuck's sake, Rip.

The media is not the enemy here. The enemy is environmental and infrastructural devastation. The enemy is lack of medicine and food and clean water. The enemy is cholera. The enemy is raw human suffering that could be prevented by the greatest nation in the world if it applied its resources with sufficient leadership.

Trump can't understand any of that because he's an idiot and a villain and mentally ill, and he sees nothing beyond the boundaries of his own petty vindictiveness. Are you saying you're no better than Trump?

The resources have been deployed. Trump has next to no effect on what happens beyond nodding and signing orders. The people doing the work are doing the best they can, it is just a difficult challenge.

GOV. RICARDO ROSSELLO: First of all, we are very grateful for the administration. They have responded quickly.

The president has been very attentive to the situation, personally calling me several times. FEMA and the FEMA director have been here in Puerto Rico twice. As a matter of fact, they were here with us today, making sure that all the resources in FEMA were working in conjunction with the central government.

We have been working together. We have been getting results. The magnitude of this catastrophe is enormous. This is going to take a lot of help, a lot of collaboration. So, my call is to congressmen and congresswomen to take action quickly and conclusively with an aid package for Puerto Rico.

We are in the midst of potentially having a humanitarian crisis here in Puerto Rico which would translate to a humanitarian crisis in the United States. So, I call upon Congress to take action immediately. You know, Puerto Ricans are proud U.S. citizens.

We have shown as much when Irma went through our region. It impacted us, but that didn’t stop us from going to the aid of other almost 4,000 U.S. citizens that were stranded in some of the islands. We gave them food, shelter. We make them out of harm’s way and we have them go back to their homes.

Now it is time for, you know, the U.S. citizens in the mainland to help Puerto Rico as well. And because we are a territory, we need to be equal, because we’re U.S. citizens, as would happen in any other state. The aftermath of this could be health emergencies, severe problems with infrastructure, and, of course, massive exodus of people of Puerto Rico, which would cause a tremendous demographic shift in Puerto Rico and in the United States.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/devastat ... -governor/

The only problem here is people trying to politicize it.

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Sat Sep 30, 2017 1:43 pm

Rip wrote:The resources have been deployed. Trump has next to no effect on what happens beyond nodding and signing orders. The people doing the work are doing the best they can, it is just a difficult challenge.

And yet Trump still feels the need to make this all about him, blame Democrats, throw Puerto Rican leadership under the bus, and blame Puerto Rico citizens for not being bootstrappy enough. Such leadership.

Here, how about we try this for a response instead:

"I understand the frustration of the Mayor of San Juan. Rest assured that we are deploying all possible resources to support the recovery effort, and will work ceaselessly with local leadership to provide the help they need. All of America stands by you, Puerto Rico, and we send our love and support."

Is something like that so fucking hard??

tgb · Post by **tgb** » Sat Sep 30, 2017 1:59 pm

Will someone just assassinate this fuck already?