PlayerUnknown's Battlegrounds

Paingod · Post by **Paingod** » Tue Oct 03, 2017 11:53 am

I'll have to hit up the Mansion. I think about it often, but it looks so small and meager compared to other, larger landing zones. Temptation gets the better of me.

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Tue Oct 03, 2017 11:59 am

I'm just not having fun solo. I'm regularly rank 20 or above, but it's just about the least fun I've had in a video game in a long time.

I still enjoy multiplayer, so hopefully I can join you guys in the evenings.

Paingod · Post by **Paingod** » Tue Oct 03, 2017 12:08 pm

GreenGoo wrote:I'm just not having fun solo. I'm regularly rank 20 or above, but it's just about the least fun I've had in a video game in a long time.

I haven't had a group yet and have kind of stopped looking for you guys. I don't think anyone else is deranged enough to be up at 9:30pm ET and playing games on work nights.

It can be very frustrating to consistently hit the top 20 and keep doing it over and over without a single kill. I've lost count of the number of times I was basically a vehicle for someone else to loot all the buildings I had picked through. Last night I felt a bit of anger around my third death without firing a single shot. I was tempted to start carrying just one rifle and a single full clip and nothing else until I got at least one kill each round. I don't want to make anything too much easier for anyone else if I'm just going to be a victim.

Octavious · Post by **Octavious** » Tue Oct 03, 2017 12:56 pm

I'm up until 12AM ET usually. Last night I was up to 1AM as I had a morning call and didn't have to leave for work for a while. I've been sticking solo for the last couple of days to try and get my skills up. I'm not so sure it's working.

I might be on tonight. Pretty tired, but the draw is hard to resist.

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Tue Oct 03, 2017 2:49 pm

I'm usually online between 9:30/10pm through midnight, but I've been going to bed early lately.

I get the occasional kill. It rarely adds to my enjoyment though. I do enjoy supporting teammates and the 2+ vs 2+ dynamic.

Octavious · Post by **Octavious** » Tue Oct 03, 2017 3:18 pm

Solo is totally a different beast. Playing in a team during the week is a bit of the pain as my daughter goes to bed early and the computer is near her room. I might be around later tonight, but I'm in a pretty crappy mood so I might just go solo. We'll see how my first few rounds go.

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Tue Oct 03, 2017 10:09 pm

Hey Paingod, what's your steam handle? Looks like it might be the same as your PUBG handle but I can't tell for sure. You're not a member of the OO group and we have no friends in common.

naednek · Post by **naednek** » Wed Oct 04, 2017 1:06 am

Note to self... Come to a complete stop before getting off a motorcycle....

Paingod · Post by **Paingod** » Wed Oct 04, 2017 7:43 am

GreenGoo wrote:Hey Paingod, what's your steam handle? Looks like it might be the same as your PUBG handle but I can't tell for sure. You're not a member of the OO group and we have no friends in common.

I think they're the same. I'm not currently friends with anyone on Steam, and I'm beginning to think I need to be in order to join you guys. I search for GreenGoo16 or Red51ve periodically and get "Offline" as a result every time.

naednek wrote:Note to self... Come to a complete stop before getting off a motorcycle....

... and when going Solo, when three people land next to an SUV and get in, it's OKAY to not join them. Last night I made the mistake of trying to be the first one into an SUV and ended up in the back seat with two other people in front. I was amused at first, but as he started to drive off I noticed a motorcycle on the side of the road and jumped to grab it. I'm sure they laughed at my idiocy as my corpse crumpled under the car. Is it just unsafe to get out of a vehicle at any speed?

I think the Mansion has caught on. Last night I had a single round where the plane was going close enough to get there and when I deployed my chute, I saw three other people over it as well. With only a handful of buildings that I'm not familiar with, I opted instead to raid a smaller compound off to the side. On the way there, I found a VSS Sniper Rifle sitting next to a roadside hut, so that's something. I know it's weak, but the built-in scope and silencer make it a useful tool.

Octavious · Post by **Octavious** » Wed Oct 04, 2017 8:21 am

Had a much better night. Still no wins but someday I'll get lucky in one. Got a really awesome kill with the vss from an apartment building. Saw someone crawling in a field. First shot missed a bit low. Second shot hit. Third shot headshot dead. I really dislike that gun but it sure confuses people. 230m

Paingod · Post by **Paingod** » Wed Oct 04, 2017 8:43 am

Octavious wrote:Got a really awesome kill with the vss from an apartment building. Saw someone crawling in a field. First shot missed a bit low. Second shot hit. Third shot headshot dead. I really dislike that gun but it sure confuses people. 230m

The biggest drawback is that the bullets are subsonic. Where most guns need a lead of 1 to 100, the VSS needs like 3 to 100. A 230m kill with it is impressive. It's a tool I'd love to get familiar with, simply because of the "Always silenced, always scoped" and no other sniper rifle offers that. I've never found all three parts in one game.

Last night I made the mistake of getting in a sniper fight where I had a VSS and my opponent had a SKS. I didn't win, but I did clip him a couple times. What I failed to account for was that the grass I was hiding in wasn't being rendered in his scope. To him, I was a dub laying near a tree.

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Wed Oct 04, 2017 9:12 am

Paingod wrote: Last night I made the mistake of getting in a sniper fight where I had a VSS and my opponent had a SKS. I didn't win, but I did clip him a couple times. What I failed to account for was that the grass I was hiding in wasn't being rendered in his scope. To him, I was a dub laying near a tree.

How do you know this? I have not seen a video where the grass wasn't rendered. You would think everyone would be doing it to gain that advantage.

TheMix · Post by **TheMix** » Wed Oct 04, 2017 9:13 am

<Completely unrelated tangent>

The VSS rocks in the STALKER games. May be my favorite weapon.

</Completely unrelated tangent>

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Wed Oct 04, 2017 9:26 am

PSA: The ability to turn off grass was patched out last april.

Unless Paingod is talking about some sort of scope exploit that I have heard about yet, in which case I'll investigate further.

Paingod · Post by **Paingod** » Wed Oct 04, 2017 9:39 am

I was noticing it last night when I was playing. My zoomed view with the VSS showed no foliage - not grass or bushes - beyond about 100m. The sniper that killed me was sitting maybe 200m away and was clear as day to me, head to toe. I didn't think anything of it as I've had other games not render long range grass. I didn't adjust any video settings or set out to cheat.

A discussion on the PUBG forum from April. It seems to happen with 8x and 15x but not 2x and 4x. I'm not sure what the power of the VSS scope is.

I'm not sure if it's an old bug made new, or some random fluke, or what. I saw it more than once last night.

coopasonic · Post by **coopasonic** » Wed Oct 04, 2017 9:51 am

It's hard to hit anything through barred windows...

Redfive · Post by **Redfive** » Wed Oct 04, 2017 9:52 am

Paingod, red51ve is my PUBG handle for Steam look for Redfive878.

Had a couple awesome rounds with GreenGoo last night, even if we only came in 3rd. Lots of action and we both knocked out / killed several others.

At one point we were near the SE coast a few hundred meters from the beach, holed up against a rock for cover and we had others in front of us, on a hill to the right of us, and passing behind us in vehicles. They were so busy with each other that they never saw us shooting them in the back

Eventually (as always), the circle forced us to move and I was caught exposed in the open and dropped. GG was able to get a fair bit further but eventually died to the circle.

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In the game we took third we didn't wind up fighting until almost the last circle. We had good circle management and were able to avoid conflict until the end. I had misjudged on the mini map where the circle zone was and was caught just outside and behind GG. Since I was behind him and outside the circle I had to take the most direct route to safety which allowed me to flank two guys that unfortunately had GG dead to rights. I killed both of them while they were killing him.

At that point the circle moved and I had no hope of getting to it in time not to mention the bullets I'd take on the way so I decided in desperation to try to engage the remaining players. I could see two of them down the hill. Unfortunately my M416 was still on auto from the last engagement when it should have been in single shot so even though I hit one of the guys my accuracy was for crap. His wasn't

Octavious · Post by **Octavious** » Wed Oct 04, 2017 9:54 am

If I have time I'll upload the video of the sniping with the vss tonight. It is pretty easy to see the guy crawling. Off the top of my head I don't recall if the grass didn't appear.

My second fav. kill last night was a Wacky Jacky special. 3 of us dropped into the same town. I looted just enough to be able to defend myself and made my way to a roof of a building. The two other guys duked it out leaving one AND telling me exactly where they were. I sat and watched the guy loot the entire town. At first he was super careful, but he got lazy once he thought he was safe. Once I realized he wasn't paying attention anymore i jumped off the roof and shot him while he was looting.

Quick and easy way to loot the entire town.

Redfive · Post by **Redfive** » Wed Oct 04, 2017 9:54 am

coopasonic wrote:It's hard to hit anything through barred windows...

Not bad on the other kills though!

coopasonic · Post by **coopasonic** » Wed Oct 04, 2017 9:56 am

Redfive wrote:
coopasonic wrote:It's hard to hit anything through barred windows...
Not bad on the other kills though!

You see my ammo counter after the kills? Oops, luckily they were the last two in the immediate area.

Octavious · Post by **Octavious** » Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:05 am

I'm kind of surprised you hit them so well without using the sight. Unless they are right in front of me I'm always trying to look down the sights. Which sometimes gets me killed. Been tweaking my settings on the different scopes the last two days and think I finally have it nailed down. It really makes a huge difference to lower the sensitivity.

coopasonic · Post by **coopasonic** » Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:18 am

Octavious wrote:I'm kind of surprised you hit them so well without using the sight. Unless they are right in front of me I'm always trying to look down the sights. Which sometimes gets me killed. Been tweaking my settings on the different scopes the last two days and think I finally have it nailed down. It really makes a huge difference to lower the sensitivity.

Thanks for this comment. I had no idea there was a significant accuracy difference and they are trying to push ADS. This may explain my general lack of success in this game. You could have mentioned it when I posted my 51 fails video!

Octavious · Post by **Octavious** » Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:26 am

If I had watched it I probably would have.

Depends on the gun really. Shotguns I NEVER look down the sights. UMP you can get away with not doing it. Most anything else I'm trying to unless it's close range. I'd recommend the wacky jacky videos on praying and spraying. He's like the Mr. Wizard of PUBG.

Paingod · Post by **Paingod** » Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:27 am

coopasonic wrote:
Octavious wrote:I'm kind of surprised you hit them so well without using the sight. Unless they are right in front of me I'm always trying to look down the sights. Which sometimes gets me killed. Been tweaking my settings on the different scopes the last two days and think I finally have it nailed down. It really makes a huge difference to lower the sensitivity.
Thanks for this comment. I had no idea there was a significant accuracy difference and they are trying to push ADS. This may explain my general lack of success in this game. You could have mentioned it when I posted my 51 fails video!

I've tinkered with accuracy checks in the minute on the island before games. Based on my rudimentary research, single-shot, iron sight (or scope) aiming is the most accurate. Full-Auto single-shot firing lacks accuracy even when aimed with an iron sight. Burst fire is a mess. I actually haven't aimed in 3rd person and fired before simply because I assumed it would always be "from the hip" and thus the least accurate.

My conclusion was that single shot wins everything. Just tap really fast if you're in a room or clearing a house. That doesn't stop me from keeping Gun #1 as a single shot ranged weapon and Gun #2 as my Full Auto room sweeper.

coopasonic · Post by **coopasonic** » Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:28 am

Yeah, shotguns are for close range mayhem, the sights should be fairly worthless, though I hear with a choke the range is greater than you would imagine.

I do most of my killing close up because I have had little success at range, likely because I don't ADS.

I have watched a lot of Wacky Jacky videos, though none that touch on this specific topic.

Redfive · Post by **Redfive** » Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:31 am

I noted the lack of ADS in your video but didn't think to say anything, sorry.

I tend to ADS for every shot unless it's 'oh shit he's right in my face'

I'm not a fan of IS either so I always try to find at least some kind of scope.

coopasonic · Post by **coopasonic** » Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:35 am

I'm fine with iron sights, it's what I used in the Army and it was just fine up to 250m. Of course the Army always had me shooting at static targets... the bastards in this game insist on moving. So unrealistic.

Octavious · Post by **Octavious** » Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:38 am

IS are terrible in this game. Battlefield 1 I use them all the time with no problems. I really think they need to work on them a bit to make them more useful. Full Auto you can totally own someone in a second if you know how to handle the recoil. You just have to pull down on the mouse as you're firing. Takes a bit of practice, but once you get it, it's easy peasy.

I still totally suck at this game, but I enjoy the learning aspect the most. I just wish I had patience and better twitch skills.

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:53 am

Paingod wrote:I was noticing it last night when I was playing. My zoomed view with the VSS showed no foliage - not grass or bushes - beyond about 100m. The sniper that killed me was sitting maybe 200m away and was clear as day to me, head to toe. I didn't think anything of it as I've had other games not render long range grass. I didn't adjust any video settings or set out to cheat.

A discussion on the PUBG forum from April. It seems to happen with 8x and 15x but not 2x and 4x. I'm not sure what the power of the VSS scope is.

I'm not sure if it's an old bug made new, or some random fluke, or what. I saw it more than once last night.

If you can find anyone talking about it after April, link it so I can have a look. I couldn't find anything after April, myself.

It's certainly possible the sniper wasn't in grass. There are plenty of bald spots on hills, although fields tend to be uniform hay. If you have a video of it maybe you can post it and we can take a look. Maybe Octavious can post his too.

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:56 am

Redfive wrote:I noted the lack of ADS in your video but didn't think to say anything, sorry.

I tend to ADS for every shot unless it's 'oh shit he's right in my face'

I'm not a fan of IS either so I always try to find at least some kind of scope.

I started out only using the tighter aim but not ads, then started ads all the time, now I'm trying to balance it, as ads has killed me a few times when it was clearly a bad idea with a guy too close and moving too fast sideways to keep him in sight.

In one of our videos you can see me ADS with a shotgun. Not much point to that.

Paingod · Post by **Paingod** » Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:56 am

No videos, sadly, but you're making me doubt my sanity. I'm going to have to see if I can at least grab a couple screenshots of areas with and without a scope up. My memory is telling me that I repeatedly saw large areas devoid of any grass or bushes - completely barren - and that's not something this game has.

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:00 am

There may be some issues with rendering at extreme distances, but anything in the <300m range I've always seen grass. Which doesn't make it a fact, just my experience.

As to Oct, if you're elevated, prone people, even in fields of hay, are pretty easy to see. Even 1/2 a story (on a hill, for example) can make a huge difference.

Redfive · Post by **Redfive** » Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:05 am

coopasonic wrote:I'm fine with iron sights, it's what I used in the Army and it was just fine up to 250m. Of course the Army always had me shooting at static targets... the bastards in this game insist on moving. So unrealistic.

Me too. We didn't have any fancy schmancy red dot / holographic / ACOG attachments when I was in either. Well we probably did but they didn't make it to my unit.

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:17 am

Redfive wrote:Paingod, red51ve is my PUBG handle for Steam look for Redfive878.

Had a couple awesome rounds with GreenGoo last night, even if we only came in 3rd. Lots of action and we both knocked out / killed several others.

At one point we were near the SE coast a few hundred meters from the beach, holed up against a rock for cover and we had others in front of us, on a hill to the right of us, and passing behind us in vehicles. They were so busy with each other that they never saw us shooting them in the back

Eventually (as always), the circle forced us to move and I was caught exposed in the open and dropped. GG was able to get a fair bit further but eventually died to the circle.

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In the game we took third we didn't wind up fighting until almost the last circle. We had good circle management and were able to avoid conflict until the end. I had misjudged on the mini map where the circle zone was and was caught just outside and behind GG. Since I was behind him and outside the circle I had to take the most direct route to safety which allowed me to flank two guys that unfortunately had GG dead to rights. I killed both of them while they were killing him.

At that point the circle moved and I had no hope of getting to it in time not to mention the bullets I'd take on the way so I decided in desperation to try to engage the remaining players. I could see two of them down the hill. Unfortunately my M416 was still on auto from the last engagement when it should have been in single shot so even though I hit one of the guys my accuracy was for crap. His wasn't

I threw a couple of kill videos together and topped it off with me dying to the circle. I wish I had access to your camera, as there was a lot more fighting than this video indicates.

In any case, here's some of our action last night: link

Redfive · Post by **Redfive** » Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:59 am

GreenGoo wrote:
Redfive wrote:Paingod, red51ve is my PUBG handle for Steam look for Redfive878.

Had a couple awesome rounds with GreenGoo last night, even if we only came in 3rd. Lots of action and we both knocked out / killed several others.

At one point we were near the SE coast a few hundred meters from the beach, holed up against a rock for cover and we had others in front of us, on a hill to the right of us, and passing behind us in vehicles. They were so busy with each other that they never saw us shooting them in the back

Eventually (as always), the circle forced us to move and I was caught exposed in the open and dropped. GG was able to get a fair bit further but eventually died to the circle.

-----

In the game we took third we didn't wind up fighting until almost the last circle. We had good circle management and were able to avoid conflict until the end. I had misjudged on the mini map where the circle zone was and was caught just outside and behind GG. Since I was behind him and outside the circle I had to take the most direct route to safety which allowed me to flank two guys that unfortunately had GG dead to rights. I killed both of them while they were killing him.

At that point the circle moved and I had no hope of getting to it in time not to mention the bullets I'd take on the way so I decided in desperation to try to engage the remaining players. I could see two of them down the hill. Unfortunately my M416 was still on auto from the last engagement when it should have been in single shot so even though I hit one of the guys my accuracy was for crap. His wasn't
I threw a couple of kill videos together and topped it off with me dying to the circle. I wish I had access to your camera, as there was a lot more fighting than this video indicates.

In any case, here's some of our action last night: link

Want to see something interesting?

Go to 0:22 in that video when you see me hitting that guy on the hill right before you finish him. What do you see on the ground right about halfway from the hill to your window, about 5 yards left of that shrub?

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Wed Oct 04, 2017 12:14 pm

Sorry, either I'm looking in the wrong location or I just don't see it.

I do hear someone else shooting between your shots and my shot. Sounds like someone below the window/around the base of the house somewhere.

edit: Ok, I see it. I assume that's where the extra shots are coming from. Is that the guy that got you?

Redfive · Post by **Redfive** » Wed Oct 04, 2017 12:20 pm

Between 0:22 and 0:25 seconds you can see a guy prone moving to your right.

For lack of a better term my shots are the 'throaty' sounding ones that you hear when you are keying off of the blood spray to find that guy you finished.

You can hear his suppressed shots and can see the dirt kicked up by them right at the last view out of the window.

He was trying to shoot me but I think because he was prone his shots weren't clearing the little rise int he ground between us.

In between that hill guy and the shot of you dying to the blue I found and killed that prone guy under the shrub you see out the window.

EDIT: that guy didn't get me, I got him. I'm not sure who got me but his shots were close and came from behind me I think. He must have died to the blue because he didn't get you either and you were in front of him (I think).

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Wed Oct 04, 2017 1:51 pm

KAR in my first building. Spent 3 circles (in a major location) searching for a scope, any scope. Didn't even find holographic sight until near the end. Ah well.

Paingod · Post by **Paingod** » Wed Oct 04, 2017 2:30 pm

GreenGoo wrote:KAR in my first building. Spent 3 circles (in a major location) searching for a scope, any scope. Didn't even find holographic sight until near the end. Ah well.

The RNG knows your desires and will use them against you. Most rounds I'm tickled if I get a Red Dot or two. I think it's a x2 by itself and clips onto pistols. I wonder if a 1911 with a Red Dot and a Silencer could be a good short-range sniper weapon, like the VSS.

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Wed Oct 04, 2017 2:44 pm

I never, ever get a sniper rifle (I think only the KAR spawns outside of the crate) and when playing as a team, give any I find to Octavious (it seems to make him happy) and then Red (who is too polite to ask for the first one). So when I do find one and decide to use it for once, I'm willing to gamble on a scope. Considering I found it in the very first building, and I had an entire town nearly to myself, and I looked in nearly every location, it was particularly bad luck. That's life.

I did line up a couple of holographic shots, and imo they should have landed, but nope. I then died to an burst firing 416 of all things, while chasing the circle across a field. I couldn't place it until it was too late. He was a terrible shot though, so he made me suffer for awhile first. I did get 1 shot off at him, but it was an air ball.