Political Randomness
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Looks like Jabba is the next to fall http://newsthump.com/2017/04/06/jabba-t ... ialnetwork
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A satirical article from April is about on par with your other contributions to this thread.
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An “Embarrassed and Ashamed” Al Franken Is Returning to Work
Sen. Al Franken is finally speaking up. After only communicating through written statements since the first allegation of sexual misconduct arose, Franken reached out to Minnesota media outlets on Sunday to say he’s ready to return to work on Monday. “I’m embarrassed and ashamed. I’ve let a lot of people down and I’m hoping I can make it up to them and gradually regain their trust,” said Franken, who has been accused of misconduct by four different women. “I’m looking forward to getting back to work tomorrow,” he told the Star Tribune.
A week and a half after the first allegations surfaced, Franken said that despite shame over his conduct he has no plans to leave the Senate. "I'm going to do my job and I'm going to go forward. I'm going to take responsibility. I'm going to be held accountable and I'm going to try to be productive in the way I speak about this,” he told Minnesota Public Radio.
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He could’ve just pulled a Trump and said everyone was lying, I suppose. It seems to make Republicans happy enough.
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CFPB deputy director sues Trump to block Mulvaney as interim leader
Oh, the shade.LEANDRA ENGLISH, Deputy Director and Acting Director, Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, 1700 G Street, NW, Washington, DC 20552,
Plaintiff,
v.
DONALD JOHN TRUMP, in his official capacity as President of the United States of America, 1600 Pennsylvania, Avenue, NW, Washington, DC 20500,
JOHN MICHAEL MULVANEY, in his capacity as the person claiming to be acting director of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, 725 17th Street, NW, Washington, DC 20503,
Defendants
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Mostly this hasn't come up before and I think the lawsuit is probably just to solidify into established law which appointment takes precedence.
From what I've read, it's Drumpf's appointment to make. Much to the chagrin and detriment of everyone else.
From what I've read, it's Drumpf's appointment to make. Much to the chagrin and detriment of everyone else.
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He can appoint the new director, subject to confirmation. He can't appoint the interim director. The deputy fills that role.
He'll ultimately be able to gut this agency, but not yet.
He'll ultimately be able to gut this agency, but not yet.
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But he can appoint someone who has already been confirmed for another cabinet post. No additional confirmation required.Kraken wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 2:59 am He can appoint the new director, subject to confirmation. He can't appoint the interim director. The deputy fills that role.
He'll ultimately be able to gut this agency, but not yet.
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This a novel new theory. So the Sec. Of Defense can just be swapped for the Sec. of Education?Rip wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 6:52 amBut he can appoint someone who has already been confirmed for another cabinet post. No additional confirmation required.Kraken wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 2:59 am He can appoint the new director, subject to confirmation. He can't appoint the interim director. The deputy fills that role.
He'll ultimately be able to gut this agency, but not yet.
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Under this administration and its penchant of putting non-qualified ppl in positions of power (including the head Cheeto himself, but that’s on us), why not? Makes as much sense as some of the other appointees.
In fact, I would argue that that kind of bullshit shenanigan would be more in line with the current dumpster fire MO of Fox & Trumps than the typical procedure under these circumstances.
In fact, I would argue that that kind of bullshit shenanigan would be more in line with the current dumpster fire MO of Fox & Trumps than the typical procedure under these circumstances.
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I'm not going to pretend to understand the civil service code and assume the courts will settle all this. Isn't it a little more disconcerting that a Federal agency head felt he needed to attempt to block the President from appointing a successor? The level of dysfunction of our government is spiraling out of control. It certainly feels like the psychopaths have all the luck -- governing a docile population of idiots and fantasists who have no clue what is going on.
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And that's where the lawsuit comes into play. We'll see.Kraken wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 2:59 am He can appoint the new director, subject to confirmation. He can't appoint the interim director. The deputy fills that role.
He'll ultimately be able to gut this agency, but not yet.
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Seems pretty clear.
https://www.consumerfinancemonitor.com/ ... ct1998.pdf
https://www.consumerfinancemonitor.com/ ... ct1998.pdf
if an officer of an Executive agency…whose appointment to office is required by the President, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, dies, resigns or is otherwise unable to perform the functions and duties of the office…the President (and only the President) may direct a person who serves in an office for which the appointment is required to be made by the President, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, to perform the functions and duties of the vacant office temporarily in an acting capacity [subject to the Act’s time limitations.]
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We'll see. This is probably the first time the President was a dick about it, otherwise there wouldn't be confusion now. The courts will make a decision and that's the way it will be from here on out.
I assume he's just "draining the swamp" like with his other appointees. He inspires such confidence.
I assume he's just "draining the swamp" like with his other appointees. He inspires such confidence.
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Conyers out after his sexual harassment stuff came to light? Nah. Nancy Pelosi is defending him because he is an "icon" who has worked to protect women.Holman wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2017 7:22 amI've heard that too, and he's probably going to be out. Maybe Roy Moore gets his parking space?Rip wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2017 6:42 am I am hearing John COnyers is one of the secret congressional sexual harassers....
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Conyers was the highest payout. There are rumors that the second-highest is a GOP senator whose name has yet to be leaked.
Conyers did step down from his House Judiciary Committee post as ranking member, but out of Congress? LOL. The Democrats are just as bad about protecting their own as the Republicans are.
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He's also denied the allegations.
NBC News

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Yup, nothing like a complete stonewall defense.Conyers’ office recently confirmed issuing a settlement of $27,000 to a former staffer who says she was fired for resisting the congressman’s sexual advances. Conyers has acknowledged the payout, which he said amounted to a severance package, but he denied the allegations about what it was for.
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[Pelosi] repeatedly said that she wants to see the House Ethics Committee investigation of Conyers play out.
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Pelosi said in a statement later Sunday, "Zero tolerance means consequences. I have asked for an ethics investigation, and as that investigation continues, Congressman Conyers has agreed to step aside as Ranking Member."

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Probably. But there's a rumor that Conyers will be retiring in contrition and that Pelosi's comments were a way of allowing him to prepare to do so without pre-emptive ass-kicking.pr0ner wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:14 amConyers out after his sexual harassment stuff came to light? Nah. Nancy Pelosi is defending him because he is an "icon" who has worked to protect women.Holman wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2017 7:22 amI've heard that too, and he's probably going to be out. Maybe Roy Moore gets his parking space?Rip wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2017 6:42 am I am hearing John COnyers is one of the secret congressional sexual harassers....
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Conyers was the highest payout. There are rumors that the second-highest is a GOP senator whose name has yet to be leaked.
Conyers did step down from his House Judiciary Committee post as ranking member, but out of Congress? LOL. The Democrats are just as bad about protecting their own as the Republicans are.
If so, that's unseemly, but it's not the equivalent of, say, electing a known child-molester to the Senate.
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I'm sure there's some cynicism involved in this statement, but for those career politicians, staying in power is more important than anything else.
Edit to add: This was in response to Isgrimnur, not Holman.
Edit to add: This was in response to Isgrimnur, not Holman.
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That's a fair point. I hadn't heard any rumors about Conyers retiring yet, either.Holman wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:21 amIt's possible. There's a rumor that Conyers will be retiring in contrition, and that Pelosi's comments were a way of allowing him to prepare to do so without pre-emptive ass-kicking.pr0ner wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:14 amConyers out after his sexual harassment stuff came to light? Nah. Nancy Pelosi is defending him because he is an "icon" who has worked to protect women.Holman wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2017 7:22 amI've heard that too, and he's probably going to be out. Maybe Roy Moore gets his parking space?Rip wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2017 6:42 am I am hearing John COnyers is one of the secret congressional sexual harassers....
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Conyers was the highest payout. There are rumors that the second-highest is a GOP senator whose name has yet to be leaked.
Conyers did step down from his House Judiciary Committee post as ranking member, but out of Congress? LOL. The Democrats are just as bad about protecting their own as the Republicans are.
If so, that's unseemly, but it's not the equivalent of, say, electing a known child-molester to the Senate.
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I'm intrigued by the URL in your link. Did OO recently establish a Judiciary Committee? Can I be on it?pr0ner wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:14 amConyers out after his sexual harassment stuff came to light? Nah. Nancy Pelosi is defending him because he is an "icon" who has worked to protect women.Holman wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2017 7:22 amI've heard that too, and he's probably going to be out. Maybe Roy Moore gets his parking space?Rip wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2017 6:42 am I am hearing John COnyers is one of the secret congressional sexual harassers....
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Conyers was the highest payout. There are rumors that the second-highest is a GOP senator whose name has yet to be leaked.
Conyers did step down from his House Judiciary Committee post as ranking member, but out of Congress? LOL. The Democrats are just as bad about protecting their own as the Republicans are.
Is there much detail on the allegations against Conyers? All I know so far is that Conyers had made payouts via the 'harassment fund', but I haven't seen much detail about what he allegedly did.
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Wow, not sure how that URL happened. Fixed to the appropriate NBC News article.El Guapo wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:27 amI'm intrigued by the URL in your link. Did OO recently establish a Judiciary Committee? Can I be on it?pr0ner wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:14 amConyers out after his sexual harassment stuff came to light? Nah. Nancy Pelosi is defending him because he is an "icon" who has worked to protect women.Holman wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2017 7:22 amI've heard that too, and he's probably going to be out. Maybe Roy Moore gets his parking space?Rip wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2017 6:42 am I am hearing John COnyers is one of the secret congressional sexual harassers....
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Conyers was the highest payout. There are rumors that the second-highest is a GOP senator whose name has yet to be leaked.
Conyers did step down from his House Judiciary Committee post as ranking member, but out of Congress? LOL. The Democrats are just as bad about protecting their own as the Republicans are.
Is there much detail on the allegations against Conyers? All I know so far is that Conyers had made payouts via the 'harassment fund', but I haven't seen much detail about what he allegedly did.
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Don't forget the interns when you make the big time!El Guapo wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:27 amI'm intrigued by the URL in your link. Did OO recently establish a Judiciary Committee? Can I be on it?pr0ner wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:14 amConyers out after his sexual harassment stuff came to light? Nah. Nancy Pelosi is defending him because he is an "icon" who has worked to protect women.Holman wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2017 7:22 amI've heard that too, and he's probably going to be out. Maybe Roy Moore gets his parking space?Rip wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2017 6:42 am I am hearing John COnyers is one of the secret congressional sexual harassers....
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Conyers was the highest payout. There are rumors that the second-highest is a GOP senator whose name has yet to be leaked.
Conyers did step down from his House Judiciary Committee post as ranking member, but out of Congress? LOL. The Democrats are just as bad about protecting their own as the Republicans are.
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IndependentIsgrimnur wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2017 11:47 pm Fastest anti-corruption committee in the Middle East:
The sweeping campaign of arrests appears to be the latest move to consolidate the power of Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, the favorite son and top adviser of King Salman.
Saudi Arabia’s powerful crown prince Mohammed bin Salman has vowed terrorists will be pursued until they are “wiped off the face of the earth” in the first meeting of a new Arab alliance designed to defeat extremism.
“We will not allow them (terrorists) to distort our peaceful religion. Today we are sending a strong message that we are working together to fight terrorism,” Prince bin Salman told assembled defence ministers in a keynote address in Riyadh on Sunday.
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The first meeting this week comes as Isis faces the collapse of its so-called caliphate in Iraq and Syria – but in the wake of a suicide bombing and gunmen assault on a mosque in Egypt’s Sinai province last week which killed more than 300 people.
The “painful event” was a reminder of the “danger of terrorism and extremism”, Prince bin Salman said.
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Countries involved in the coalition include Egypt, the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, Afghanistan, Uganda, Somalia, Mauritania, Lebanon, Libya, Yemen and Turkey.
Iran – Saudi Arabia’s regional arch-rival – is not included in the group. Syria and Iraq, whose governments have close connections to Tehran, are also not part of the alliance.
While the alliance officially includes Qatar, the target of a six-month boycott led by Saudi Arabia, organisers in Riyadh said no Qatari officials were present.
“The pillar of this coalition is inclusion,” said Saudi General Abdulelah al Saleh, the alliance's acting secretary general, playing down the perceived tensions.
“Our common enemy is terrorism, not any religion, sect or race.”
It's almost as if people are the problem.
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https://twitter.com/scotusreporter/stat ... 9782969344
Link to article in tweet: https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/ ... story.html
Link to article in tweet: https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/ ... story.html
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Ever wonder why one side seems to be preoccupied with false flag operations?
It's almost as if people are the problem.
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So their plan was to create a fake story against Moore, come out as fake, and thereby discredit all the allegations against Moore?
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Ding ding dingMoliere wrote:So their plan was to create a fake story against Moore, come out as fake, and thereby discredit all the allegations against Moore?
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That is one masterstroke of an article, and the accompanying video is not to be missed... seeing the lady slowly come to realize that the Washington Post journalist has turned the tables and she's totally and completely fucked is a sight to behold.tjg_marantz wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 6:05 pmDing ding dingMoliere wrote:So their plan was to create a fake story against Moore, come out as fake, and thereby discredit all the allegations against Moore?
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And the thing to remember here is that this isn't just an attack on the Post.
It's chiefly an attack on the women who have independently come forward to accuse Roy Moore.
James O'Keefe can eat shit.
It's chiefly an attack on the women who have independently come forward to accuse Roy Moore.
James O'Keefe can eat shit.
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The good part really starts at 6:30.Captain Caveman wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 6:24 pm That is one masterstroke of an article, and the accompanying video is not to be missed... seeing the lady slowly come to realize that the Washington Post journalist has turned the tables and she's totally and completely fucked is a sight to behold.
That journo is a total pro. You can tell that she is suppressing her contempt, but she seems genuinely to want to get the whole story.
When Project Veritas and its backers throw Jaime Phillips under the bus, it will be this journalist who talks to her again and gets the full truth of the scam.
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This is my problem in a nutshell. Where are the multiple complaints against him? Where is the detail? In the end he stepped aside from his most powerful position and asked for an investigation. Let that process play out or have the dam break loose with multiple accusers before whatabouting this as equivalent to Moore or even Trump. Especially since Trump is pretending it wasn't him on the tape. These allegations are in a complete different scale at the moment IMO.El Guapo wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:27 amI'm intrigued by the URL in your link. Did OO recently establish a Judiciary Committee? Can I be on it?pr0ner wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:14 amConyers out after his sexual harassment stuff came to light? Nah. Nancy Pelosi is defending him because he is an "icon" who has worked to protect women.Holman wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2017 7:22 amI've heard that too, and he's probably going to be out. Maybe Roy Moore gets his parking space?Rip wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2017 6:42 am I am hearing John COnyers is one of the secret congressional sexual harassers....
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Conyers was the highest payout. There are rumors that the second-highest is a GOP senator whose name has yet to be leaked.
Conyers did step down from his House Judiciary Committee post as ranking member, but out of Congress? LOL. The Democrats are just as bad about protecting their own as the Republicans are.
Is there much detail on the allegations against Conyers? All I know so far is that Conyers had made payouts via the 'harassment fund', but I haven't seen much detail about what he allegedly did.
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Here's to you, WaPo.tjg_marantz wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:57 pm https://twitter.com/scotusreporter/stat ... 9782969344
Link to article in tweet: https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/ ... story.html

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I guess my ration of free articles must not reset until 12/1. Stoopid paywall....
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To be honest it is pretty mundane. They had a pretty decent circumstantial case to not believe her and then she went into the Project Veritas office. That clinched it. She was clearly a plant at that point. Nicely done reverse sting operation.Kraken wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 7:10 pm I guess my ration of free articles must not reset until 12/1. Stoopid paywall....
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I keep hearing about this paywall, but I've never seen any sign of it (and I read a lot of WaPo articles).Kraken wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 7:10 pm I guess my ration of free articles must not reset until 12/1. Stoopid paywall....
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Some reads don’t seem to count. Through google news for example.Max Peck wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 7:26 pmI keep hearing about this paywall, but I've never seen any sign of it (and I read a lot of WaPo articles).Kraken wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 7:10 pm I guess my ration of free articles must not reset until 12/1. Stoopid paywall....
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If you’d like to see the paywall,just go directly to WP and click on eleven links.

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Full text of the article, missing only two fascinating embedded videos:
Spoiler:
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It is worth the $9.99 a month at this point. They are one of the last non crazy papers left since the NY Times went semi bonkers.
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Do you browse in Incognito mode?Max Peck wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 7:26 pmI keep hearing about this paywall, but I've never seen any sign of it (and I read a lot of WaPo articles).Kraken wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 7:10 pm I guess my ration of free articles must not reset until 12/1. Stoopid paywall....
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