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Sorry, no clue...The Meal wrote:Lee wrote:I didn't see any evidence that he was. He seems to be pretty eccentric, so he is kind of hard to read though.jpinard wrote:Ohhh, I didn't realize he was poking fun at himself. Sorry!Aren't you folks aware the the pickle/gherkin debates?Rincewind wrote:No I think this dude legitimately thinks he makes sense. Its funny, in a sad, odd sort of way.
~Neal
Pickles and gherkins are the same thing jpinard.jpinard wrote:Sorry, no clue...The Meal wrote:Lee wrote:I didn't see any evidence that he was. He seems to be pretty eccentric, so he is kind of hard to read though.jpinard wrote:Ohhh, I didn't realize he was poking fun at himself. Sorry!Aren't you folks aware the the pickle/gherkin debates?Rincewind wrote:No I think this dude legitimately thinks he makes sense. Its funny, in a sad, odd sort of way.
~Neal
NVidia dumped that excellent sound chipset because it cost too much, and the new one is not nearly as good as the chipset NForce had. Myth not debunked. At any rate, comparing one mobo chipset, to one add-on sound card is not a good scientific sampling... and 90% of mobo manufacturers use crappy sound chips to save cost.lorax wrote:One more myth debunked.The Preacher wrote:...the Nforce2 beat both the Aud2 and the Hercules...jpinard wrote:Lorax, there is plenty of evidence.
Good soundcards really do increase your sound quality and fps...
It's not debunked because it's entirely debatable. My NF2 card has the NF2-APU, but most NF2 boards did not (they used the shittier Realtek). And the Audigy 2 has been supplanted by the 2-ZS. There are no absolutes here.lorax wrote:One more myth debunked.The Preacher wrote:...the Nforce2 beat both the Aud2 and the Hercules...jpinard wrote:Lorax, there is plenty of evidence.
Good soundcards really do increase your sound quality and fps...
The Preacher wrote:...the Nforce2 beat both the Aud2 and the Hercules...jpinard wrote:Myth #2? If a gamer needs fps, they look for the sound card that will do the most work "on-card". Most crap-built mobo sound chips offload all that work to your cpu, thus lowering your fps potential.
NVidia dumped that excellent sound chipset because it cost too much, and the new one is not nearly as good as the chipset NForce had. Myth not debunked.
I'm telling you that onboard sound chips purchased nowadays do exactly that. That's why NVidia dumped the good NForce2 soundchip they had (it cost money!). I'm not comparing the one gem of mobos that hasn't been produced in years, with all the other lumps of coal being made past/present/future.lorax wrote:The Preacher wrote:...the Nforce2 beat both the Aud2 and the Hercules...jpinard wrote:Myth #2? If a gamer needs fps, they look for the sound card that will do the most work "on-card". Most crap-built mobo sound chips offload all that work to your cpu, thus lowering your fps potential.
NVidia dumped that excellent sound chipset because it cost too much, and the new one is not nearly as good as the chipset NForce had. Myth not debunked.
The myth was: "mobo sound chips offload all the work to your cpu, thus lowering your fps potential".
The myth was rendered defunct: "the Nforce2 beat both the Aud2 and the Hercules."
Are you suggesting that the debunked myth became defunct?
But you could just add the sound card after the onboard fails.Lee wrote:Another reason why I would never want onboard audio is because if I do want to upgrade or something goes wrong with the audio, it's a hell of a lot easier having a card to pull and replace.
It's really neither here nor there imo. Few games are cpu-limited today so if the cpu has to take up some slack bfd. OTOH, sound cards supposedly pump out better sound. Had a friend with this problem, he couldn't get the onboard one disabled, it kept popping up in XP and causing a conflict. I told him to get his MoBo documentation and find the jumper to disable it. He didn't have the book, or the knowledge to do such a thing.The Preacher wrote:But you could just add the sound card after the onboard fails.Lee wrote:Another reason why I would never want onboard audio is because if I do want to upgrade or something goes wrong with the audio, it's a hell of a lot easier having a card to pull and replace.
6 of one, a gherkin of the other.
