The Former Trump Presidency Thread

Zarathud · Post by **Zarathud** » Sun Feb 18, 2018 6:06 pm

That's Rip's current stance to avoid taking any responsibility for Trump's bullshit. Rip was a Trump early adopter but doesn't have the stones to actually defend any of the bullshit he tries to sell. Which makes him and Trump the same, in a way.

YellowKing · Post by **YellowKing** » Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:50 pm

I have a ton of Trump-voting co-workers who take that stance. "Well, he probably needs to stop tweeting, but he's got the economy booming again." As if his tweeting was just a funny personality quirk, and not the symptoms of a madman who is almost single-handedly destroying our country.

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:17 pm

Freyland wrote: Sun Feb 18, 2018 4:40 pm Please turn your sarcasm dial slightly to the right.

I'm autistic. Those don't come standard on my model, and I can't afford any extras.

RunningMn9 · Post by **RunningMn9** » Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:34 pm

YellowKing wrote:I have a ton of Trump-voting co-workers who take that stance. "Well, he probably needs to stop tweeting, but he's got the economy booming again." As if his tweeting was just a funny personality quirk, and not the symptoms of a madman who is almost single-handedly destroying our country.

What do they say when you point out that the economy isn’t booming again (or doing anything differently than it was over a year ago)?

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:54 pm

It doesn't matter. They don't believe that. Belief is all that matters.

Kraken · Post by **Kraken** » Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:03 pm

RunningMn9 wrote: Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:34 pm
YellowKing wrote:I have a ton of Trump-voting co-workers who take that stance. "Well, he probably needs to stop tweeting, but he's got the economy booming again." As if his tweeting was just a funny personality quirk, and not the symptoms of a madman who is almost single-handedly destroying our country.
What do they say when you point out that the economy isn’t booming again (or doing anything differently than it was over a year ago)?

Republican tax policy and good old-fashioned Keynesian spending are expected to goose GDP by 0.3-0.5% this year -- a sugar high for the ruling class that one hopes won't cause too hard a crash when inflation and interest rates chase the deficits uphill. Trump has had only marginal influence on those policies. But consumer sentiment is another big factor in economic growth, and Trump has inspired that in his followers. The economy will remain strong through the November elections, and might even avoid contraction through the next presidential race, and us peasants will enjoy some extra crumbs while that continues. So he legitimately deserves some small credit for that.

I just spent $925 on a laptop when a $500 machine would have met my needs because I'm confident that my business will grow enough this year to pay for the extravagance. Thanks, Trump!

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:12 pm

There was a scuffle over the nuclear football during Trump's trip to China. How they kept a lid on it is anyone's guess. Can you imagine if this happened during Obama's administration? The investigation would still be going.

I've spoken to five sources familiar with the events. Here's what happened, as they describe it:

When the U.S. military aide carrying the nuclear football entered the Great Hall, Chinese security officials blocked his entry. (The official who carries the nuclear football is supposed to stay close to the president at all times, along with a doctor.)
A U.S. official hurried into the adjoining room and told Kelly what was happening. Kelly rushed over and told the U.S. officials to keep walking — "We're moving in," he said — and the Americans all started moving.
Then there was a commotion. A Chinese security official grabbed Kelly, and Kelly shoved the man’s hand off of his body. Then a U.S. Secret Service agent grabbed the Chinese security official and tackled him to the ground.
The whole scuffle was over in a flash, and the U.S. officials told about the incident were asked to keep quiet about it. Trump's team followed the normal security procedure to brief the Chinese before their visit to Beijing, according to a person familiar with the trip — but somebody at the Chinese end either didn't get the memo or decided to mess with the Americans anyway.

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:56 pm

They put their hands on Kelly? Wow (a real wow, not sarcastic).

The whole thing is fascinating.

PLW · Post by **PLW** » Mon Feb 19, 2018 10:00 am

Sounds like someone wanted to send a message about who was in charge.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Mon Feb 19, 2018 10:26 am

Glad it was handled discreetly.

Can't let a little thing like our nuclear codes get in the way of Ivanka's trademarks.

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Mon Feb 19, 2018 11:39 am

Don't wear white after labor day, and wait three days after a school shooting to hit the golf course.

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Mon Feb 19, 2018 11:45 am

Smoove_B wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2018 11:39 am Don't wear white after labor day, and wait three days after a school shooting to hit the golf course.

Well, it is The President's Day today, right? That's what his breakfast cake said.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Mon Feb 19, 2018 11:53 am

Smoove_B wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2018 11:39 am Don't wear white after labor day, and wait three days after a school shooting to hit the golf course.

Hey baby, POTUS is a party-boy who doesn't have time for your antiquated rules.

https://twitter.com/Kevinliptakcnn/stat ... 5223810048

President Trump and the First Lady stopped by a Studio 54-themed disco party in the ballroom at Mar-a-Lago last night after returning from the Broward sheriff’s department

He's like Andy Warhol if Andy was Jabba the Hutt.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Mon Feb 19, 2018 1:04 pm

Or Nero without any musical talent.

Fitzy · Post by **Fitzy** » Mon Feb 19, 2018 6:39 pm

This is funny, it's the presidential greatness survey. Trump comes in dead last. I'm hoping for some tweets, but it probably isn't big enough to attract his attention. The funnier part is that even among Republican/conservative historians he was 40th, surpassing only Buchanan, Pierce and Harrison. As bad as Trump is, until he contributes to a Civil War that kills over a million Americans, I'll cut him some slack and let him slip into 43rd place.

On a side note, what's with the low ranking of Harrison? He was only President for a few weeks, during which I believe he was sick most of the time myth. It is a greatness survey, so I suppose he didn't do anything to deserve points.

Also of interest is that Republican/conservatives rate George Washington higher than Lincoln, while Democrats/liberals put Lincoln higher. He may not be the founder of the Republican party, but would the party have survived without his leadership through the Civil War? The love fest from the party of Lincoln appears to be over. Or would be if this wasn't a survey of 200 of the greatest history nerds.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Mon Feb 19, 2018 6:54 pm

My top three in no order would be

Teddy Roosevelt
Bill Clinton
JFK

$iljanus · Post by **$iljanus** » Mon Feb 19, 2018 7:06 pm

Smoove_B wrote:Don't wear white after labor day, and wait three days after a school shooting to hit the golf course.

Well dead children are a case of the sads and stopping your normal routine let's the terrorists win.

Kraken · Post by **Kraken** » Mon Feb 19, 2018 7:37 pm

Fitzy wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2018 6:39 pm This is funny, it's the presidential greatness survey. Trump comes in dead last. I'm hoping for some tweets, but it probably isn't big enough to attract his attention. The funnier part is that even among Republican/conservative historians he was 40th, surpassing only Buchanan, Pierce and Harrison. As bad as Trump is, until he contributes to a Civil War that kills over a million Americans, I'll cut him some slack and let him slip into 43rd place.

It's hard to rate Trump based on one year in office. He's probably the most corrupt president ever, and possibly the least intelligent and the most mentally unbalanced. He's probably a stooge for a foreign adversary. The damage that he's already done will take years or decades to overcome. So he belongs near the bottom based on that alone. Worst, though? Maybe if he can maintain this trajectory for another three years. If I were pressed to rank him, I'd probably put him at the bottom, too, but that's largely because we're still going through this nightmare -- the ultimate recency effect.

Obama advancing to 8th place will give Trump conniptions if he is allowed to see this poll.

Freyland · Post by **Freyland** » Mon Feb 19, 2018 9:52 pm

If only someone with a Twitter account could tweet him a link...

PLW · Post by **PLW** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:04 am

$iljanus wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2018 7:06 pm
Smoove_B wrote:Don't wear white after labor day, and wait three days after a school shooting to hit the golf course.
Well dead children are a case of the sads and stopping your normal routine let's the terrorists win.

Sure... and at the rate we're going, if you have to take 3 days off for a mass shooting, you'll never get on the course again!

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:10 am

Well, to be fair, he was celebrating President's Trump's Day.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:22 am

Trump is claiming simultaneously that Russian interference is a hoax and that Obama didn't do enough to stop it.

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:27 am

Holman wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:22 am Trump is claiming simultaneously that Russian interference is a hoax and that Obama didn't do enough to stop it.

And his people eat up like teenagers at a pizza party.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:34 am

And right now Trump is tweeting that women who've accused him of harassment are paid liars.

He is really losing it.

Chaz · Post by **Chaz** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:35 am

I'm not sure the guy who paid women to keep quiet about affairs really wants to be throwing around "they were paid off" accusations?

Wait, this is another example of Trump admitting he's done something by accusing others of doing it, right?

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:40 am

He lives in a consequence free world. Why would he change?

Moliere · Post by **Moliere** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:13 pm

Fitzy wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2018 6:39 pm This is funny, it's the presidential greatness survey. Trump comes in dead last. I'm hoping for some tweets, but it probably isn't big enough to attract his attention. The funnier part is that even among Republican/conservative historians he was 40th, surpassing only Buchanan, Pierce and Harrison. As bad as Trump is, until he contributes to a Civil War that kills over a million Americans, I'll cut him some slack and let him slip into 43rd place.

On a side note, what's with the low ranking of Harrison? He was only President for a few weeks, during which I believe he was sick most of the time myth. It is a greatness survey, so I suppose he didn't do anything to deserve points.

Also of interest is that Republican/conservatives rate George Washington higher than Lincoln, while Democrats/liberals put Lincoln higher. He may not be the founder of the Republican party, but would the party have survived without his leadership through the Civil War? The love fest from the party of Lincoln appears to be over. Or would be if this wasn't a survey of 200 of the greatest history nerds.

Why let a thing like habeas corpus get in the way of fighting a Civil War? Without a doubt George Washington should be the greatest President. He set the precendents for the job. The most important being retiring after 2 terms. If he had gone a 3rd term he would have died in office and that would have been a terrible precedent. His Farewell Address might have been written by Hamilton, but it should still be required reading for all Presidential candidates.

msteelers · Post by **msteelers** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 6:21 pm

Or at least go on YouTube and watch the cast of Hamilton sing One Last Time to Obama’s face during his last year in office.

Fitzy · Post by **Fitzy** » Wed Feb 21, 2018 1:48 pm

Trump wants to add a space czar. The dude really has a hardon for all things Russia.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Wed Feb 21, 2018 1:55 pm

That's actually a misquote. He said he wanted a Space CAR. Then he yelled "VROOM VROOM, I'm flying to Neptune!" and ran off into the night.

Fitzy · Post by **Fitzy** » Wed Feb 21, 2018 2:51 pm

You have the strangest dreams dude.

Freyland · Post by **Freyland** » Wed Feb 21, 2018 2:53 pm

If it ended with him not coming back, it was still a good one.

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Wed Feb 21, 2018 6:32 pm

Something, something "chain migration".

I guess Slovenia is officially not a "shithole" country then.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Wed Feb 21, 2018 8:49 pm

Our president has to have notes to get through a meeting with the survivors:

While Trump listened to the survivors and their parents' calls for stricter gun control, the president held a notecard apparently containing talking points and social niceties.

"I hear you," read bullet point No. 5.

The top two items on the list were questions: "What would you most want me to know about your experience?" and "What can we do to help you feel safe?"

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Wed Feb 21, 2018 8:58 pm

Also note the "45" embroidered on his sleeve. Branding!

Our President needs a cheat sheet on how to be empathetic. Or at least appear to be empathetic. This is horrifying.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Wed Feb 21, 2018 9:03 pm

Isgrimnur wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2018 8:49 pm Our president has to have notes to get through a meeting with the survivors:

While Trump listened to the survivors and their parents' calls for stricter gun control, the president held a notecard apparently containing talking points and social niceties.

"I hear you," read bullet point No. 5.

The top two items on the list were questions: "What would you most want me to know about your experience?" and "What can we do to help you feel safe?"

That picture is everywhere, but I haven't seen anyone comment on the most notable thing: we have plenty of samples, and that list is absolutely not his handwriting.

Chaz · Post by **Chaz** » Wed Feb 21, 2018 9:06 pm

Of course it's not. He wouldn't have even thought to write "I hear you."

Max Peck · Post by **Max Peck** » Wed Feb 21, 2018 9:07 pm

There was an episode of Doctor Who where Clara provided the Doctor with cue cards in an attempt to help him fake having empathy. Perhaps Trump has a Whovian amongst his staff.

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Wed Feb 21, 2018 10:53 pm

Holman wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2018 9:03 pm
That picture is everywhere, but I haven't seen anyone comment on the most notable thing: we have plenty of samples, and that list is absolutely not his handwriting.

Why on earth would we think he thought of, let alone personally wrote down, notes on how to fake empathy?

Of course someone else wrote the cue cards for him.

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Wed Feb 21, 2018 10:58 pm

Remember when conservatives screeched endlessly about Obama using a teleprompter?

Good times, good times.