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Well, the Bastille Day parade is an old French Imperial tradition.El Guapo wrote: Tue Apr 24, 2018 12:43 pm Macron's the one who apparently put the military parade bug in Trump's mind, so I don't feel *too* bad for him.
FTFY.GreenGoo wrote: Tue Apr 24, 2018 12:49 pm Macron made a chump of Drumpf in the handshake showdown, so presumably this is revenge. Given Macron's handling of Drumpf in the past, I'm sure this particular offense rolled right off his back was brushed right off his lapel.
(Not sure if this is a real quote from the noted primatologist.)Jane Goodall wrote: “When the aging gorilla is confronted with the much more virile, new alpha-male, he shows submissiveness by grooming the alpha-male, but the gesture is actually a vain attempt by the old gorilla to humiliate his much younger rival.”
LawBeefaroni wrote: Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:41 pmFTFY.GreenGoo wrote: Tue Apr 24, 2018 12:49 pm Macron made a chump of Drumpf in the handshake showdown, so presumably this is revenge. Given Macron's handling of Drumpf in the past, I'm sure this particular offense rolled right off his back was brushed right off his lapel.
I mean, people call Kanye most of that stuff normally. Because he's, you know, off his rocker, and something of an attention whore.Moliere wrote: Thu Apr 26, 2018 11:56 am Uncle Tom
Off his rocker, i.e. crazy
shameless attention whore
Yeah, I can't imagine why black conservatives keep their mouth's shut. Kind of like being a conservative in Hollywood.
El Guapo wrote: Thu Apr 26, 2018 12:00 pm I mean, people call Kanye most of that stuff normally. Because he's, you know, off his rocker, and something of an attention whore.
Is that going to compete with Charlie Sheen's Tiger Blood?hepcat wrote: Thu Apr 26, 2018 12:25 pm I'm guessing Kanye's about to release a new Red Bull competitor called Dragon Energy.
Kanye is a conservative in the same way as Trump is.Moliere wrote: Thu Apr 26, 2018 11:56 am Uncle Tom
Off his rocker, i.e. crazy
shameless attention whore
Yeah, I can't imagine why black conservatives keep their mouth's shut. Kind of like being a conservative in Hollywood.
Oooooo....A West/Sheen 2020 ticket. Talk about winning!
FTFY.Remus West wrote: Thu Apr 26, 2018 12:49 pmOooooo....A West/Sheen 2020 ticket. Talk about bi-winning!
“The Electoral College is different. I would rather have the popular vote because it's, to me, it's much easier to win the popular vote,” he continued.
Yeah, it's a random ramble that will soon be forgotten, and/or one of his aides will explain to him that that's not what he really thinks. Still, I appreciate him saying so.Defiant wrote: Thu Apr 26, 2018 3:35 pm Trump pushes to swap Electoral College for popular vote
“The Electoral College is different. I would rather have the popular vote because it's, to me, it's much easier to win the popular vote,” he continued.
I'd love to have a reporter ask Trump who won that last World Cup.Trump wrote:The U.S. has put together a STRONG bid w/ Canada & Mexico for the 2026 World Cup. It would be a shame if countries that we always support were to lobby against the U.S. bid. Why should we be supporting these countries when they don’t support us (including at the United Nations)?
He’d probably tell you the New Jersey Generals.Holman wrote: Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:55 pm
I'd love to have a reporter ask Trump who won that last World Cup.
Is Kanye a conservative? Do black conservatives keep their mouths shut?Moliere wrote: Thu Apr 26, 2018 11:56 am Uncle Tom
Off his rocker, i.e. crazy
shameless attention whore
Yeah, I can't imagine why black conservatives keep their mouth's shut. Kind of like being a conservative in Hollywood.
How about this, he's a black man showing support for Trump. Here's his quote:Alefroth wrote: Thu Apr 26, 2018 11:50 pm Is Kanye a conservative? Do black conservatives keep their mouths shut?
Taking out the dragon energy nonsense, you have Kane saying:You don't have to agree with trump but the mob can't make me not love him. We are both dragon energy. He is my brother. I love everyone. I don't agree with everything anyone does. That's what makes us individuals. And we have the right to independent thought.
Where is the notion that blacks have to be democrats coming from? I agree that Uncle Tom is going too far, but I don't think calling out a black man for professing love for someone who at the very least uses racism to get what he wants means that blacks can't be conservative.Moliere wrote: Fri Apr 27, 2018 12:42 pmHow about this, he's a black man showing support for Trump. Here's his quote:Alefroth wrote: Thu Apr 26, 2018 11:50 pm Is Kanye a conservative? Do black conservatives keep their mouths shut?
Taking out the dragon energy nonsense, you have Kane saying:You don't have to agree with trump but the mob can't make me not love him. We are both dragon energy. He is my brother. I love everyone. I don't agree with everything anyone does. That's what makes us individuals. And we have the right to independent thought.
1) You don't have to agree with everything about Trump
2) He's not going to be pressured into disliking him
3) It's unlikely that we would agree with everything about someone
4) We're all individuals (said in the voice of Life of Brian)
5) Independent thought is a good thing
Why would someone like Kanye feel the need to express these thoughts of mob mentality and the value of independent thought?
Would would someone like Chance feel the need to post this:
https://twitter.com/chancetherapper/sta ... 5598688257
If you're replying to me, that's what I said.GreenGoo wrote: Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:10 pm He's not being called out for being a conservative, he's being called out for supporting a obviously racist cancer in the white house.
New game show idea.Rip wrote: Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:35 pm That is all fine and dandy, but we know the next guy will face the same rhetoric. Poor Pence.
Just the same crap Bush/Cheney faced. Actually Trump trolling for it has probably saved Pence from a lot of heat, But we all know it will come if something happens to Trump and he isn't around to be the villain dejour.
Right and if you're white and rich there is strong pressure to be a Republican. Am I right?Moliere wrote: Fri Apr 27, 2018 12:42 pmHow about this, he's a black man showing support for Trump. Here's his quote:Alefroth wrote: Thu Apr 26, 2018 11:50 pm Is Kanye a conservative? Do black conservatives keep their mouths shut?
Taking out the dragon energy nonsense, you have Kane saying:You don't have to agree with trump but the mob can't make me not love him. We are both dragon energy. He is my brother. I love everyone. I don't agree with everything anyone does. That's what makes us individuals. And we have the right to independent thought.
1) You don't have to agree with everything about Trump
2) He's not going to be pressured into disliking him
3) It's unlikely that we would agree with everything about someone
4) We're all individuals (said in the voice of Life of Brian)
5) Independent thought is a good thing
Why would someone like Kanye feel the need to express these thoughts of mob mentality and the value of independent thought?
Would would someone like Chance feel the need to post this:
https://twitter.com/chancetherapper/sta ... 5598688257
I'm not sure if this is sarcasm or not.Enough wrote: Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:47 pm Right and if you're white and rich there is strong pressure to be a Republican. Am I right?
I was being genuine. There's tons of pressure on black people to be liberal and yes if you are rich (especially new rich) to be Republican.noxiousdog wrote: Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:55 pmI'm not sure if this is sarcasm or not.Enough wrote: Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:47 pm Right and if you're white and rich there is strong pressure to be a Republican. Am I right?
There absolutely is strong pressure to affiliate with the political party of whichever social circle you find yourself in.
Chance is certainly right about his hometown's longstanding Democratic rule—the last time the Windy City had a Republican mayor was back in 1931. (As with many industrial cities, control there flipped from Prohibition-supporting GOP machines to Democratic machines due to changing demographics and shifting attitudes toward Catholic and Jewish immigrants.) And as he grudgingly acknowledges, Democratic rule in Chicago hasn't been good for African Americans. The city's police department routinely violates the rights of black and Latino residents, according to a scathing Department of Justice report issued last year. Massively powerful unions have blocked reforms not just of police but of awful schools, while extorting generous pensions and benefits that have brought the city to the edge of bankruptcy and kept it from providing basic services. Chance himself has donated $1 million to Chicago's schools, which have been deemed the country's worst at least since 1987.
Chance was immediately called out as a hypocrite for defending Kanye West. It's not difficult to understand why he felt a need to separate himself from his comments about blacks not needing to be Democrats. Over the past 70 years, no voting bloc has been more identified with the Democratic Party than blacks. Since 1948, when the Democrats inserted a civil rights plank in their platform, a majority of blacks have identified as Democrats. No Republican presidential candidate has pulled more than 15 percent of the African-American vote since 1960, when Nixon received 32 percent against John F. Kennedy.
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But absent concrete steps to address such urgent issues as criminal justice reform, school choice, occupational licensing, and the drug war, all of which disproportionately affect minority populations, there's no reason to assume that black support for Democrats will continue, any more than publicly regulated taxicabs, postwar shopping malls, or old Fortune 500 companies can hope to persist. Political parties are contingent organizations whose meanings and commitments need to change over time and in reaction to customer demands. Most Americans are increasingly alienated from the current iterations of either party for the simple reason that the Democratic and Republican coalitions were designed to appeal to political realities that made sense back in the late 20th century. The car you drive, the food you eat, the music you listen to—none of these things are the same as they were back in 1978, 1988, or 1998. So why should the political party you vote for?
may not be perfect is a bit of an understatement.Sepiche wrote: Fri Apr 27, 2018 4:38 pm Again, Democrats may not be perfect, but there is a huge gulf between needing to do more to help our country with racial issues, and actively making race relations worse.
Since 1983 the Chief of Police has been an African American four out of eight times.Chicago has a long history of public corruption that regularly draws the attention of federal law enforcement and federal prosecutors. Chicago's political landscape has been firmly under the control of the Democratic Party for over 50 years and has been widely described as a political machine. In the 1980s, the FBI's Operation Greylord uncovered massive and systemic corruption in Chicago's judicial system.
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The late 1980s and 1990s saw further efforts by the FBI to prosecute Chicago's public crime syndicates. Operation Incubator obtained about a dozen convictions or guilty pleas, including those from five members of the City Council and an aide to former Mayor Harold Washington.
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From 1972 to 2012, 33 Chicago Alderman were convicted on corruption charges, a conviction rate of roughly ⅓ of those elected in the time period. A report from the Office of the Legislative Inspector General noted that over half of Chicago's elected alderman took illegal campaign contributions in 2013.
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Chairman of the Cook County Democratic Party and county assessor, Joseph Berrios, has been continually accused of nepotism, cronyism and abusive political patronage.